Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-21 Thread Paul Armstrong
You're right. My memory was that he'd resigned and I only found news articles saying as much (and until I corrected it, the Wikipedia article also stated he'd resigned; unfortunately I can't fix the news articles that say he resigned rather than not being offered a position at Oracle). I had

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Paul Armstrong opensola...@otoh.org wrote: You're right. My memory was that he'd resigned and I only found news articles saying as much (and until I corrected it, the Wikipedia article also stated he'd resigned; unfortunately I can't fix the news articles

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Matthias Pfützner
You (Stephen Bunn) wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez mindbende...@live.com wrote: it appears the so called writers,reporters from many well respected news sites are actually in a way

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Alexander Eremin
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 09:44 +0200, Matthias Pfützner wrote: You (Stephen Bunn) wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez mindbende...@live.com wrote: it appears the so called writers,reporters

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Matthias Pfützner
You (Martin Bochnig) wrote: I responded to Edward Martinez, exactly because I did not agree with him in that new context. Of course partially he is right. But it is Oracle(Management´s) very very own fault. The put gazoline into that fire! By just doing n o t h i n g. Didn´t I state this?

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Matthias Pfützner
You (Martin Bochnig) wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez mindbende...@live.com wrote: it appears  the  so called writers,reporters  from many well respected news sites are  actually in a way  wishing  the demise of opensolaris.  almost every article written on

[osol-discuss] Apple

2010-04-21 Thread Peter Jones
There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about. Oscar Wilde Apple spent a shed load of cash to get everyone to talk about their new release by dropping selective information in the news, under cover articles, speculation,sometime before a

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Distributions

2010-04-21 Thread john kroll
Thank you for your reply. I guess I have been trying to understand it in solaris type terms of gnome or cde with ubuntu holding an option of either edubuntu or kubuntu. But I see its way more than that since eucalyptus has its own public cloud. I'm really new to attempting to understand

Re: [osol-discuss] failed to add publisher?

2010-04-21 Thread Predrag Zecevic
Hi Ghenry, you work looks interesting (and packages too). Have you found way to fix package repository? Regards. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] what does xtrmap: current record not TS_ADDR means for ufsrestore command?

2010-04-21 Thread Brian Ruthven - Solaris Network Sustaining - Oracle UK
Some things to check: 1) Was the dump created in accordance with the man page (specifically, the unmounted or mounted read-only part)? 2) Was the system in single-user mode when the dump was taken? 3) What system was the dump created on? 4) What system are you trying to extract

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de wrote: You can try to blame Oracle for not calling it alive, but look: http://c0t0d0s0.org/archives/6510-Future-of-OpenSolaris.html Is this proof of an engagement TOWARDS OpenSolaris? Being interested in supporting OSS and not giving

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Mike DeMarco
So, folks, again, GET USED TO the new communication, and DO NEVER EVER draw WRONG conclusions! It's so easy! Normally I would agree, but I know for a fact that this lack of communication about a way forward with Sun products is driving businesses away. Every businesses that I talk to is

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/21 Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de: You (Martin Bochnig) wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez mindbende...@live.com wrote: it appears  the  so called writers,reporters  from many well respected news sites are  actually in a way  wishing  the demise of

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Alexander Eremin ere...@milax.org wrote: On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 09:44 +0200, Matthias Pfützner wrote: You (Stephen Bunn) wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Alexander Eremin
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 15:28 +0300, Martin Bochnig wrote: Hello. What? You prefer the head_into_the_sand-approach??? If +1 in that manner, then the same as response: Do you get it or don´t you Oracle´s DB is pretty much a monopoly. *There* they can do whatever they want, including

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Mike DeMarco mikej...@yahoo.com wrote: So, folks, again, GET USED TO the new communication, and DO NEVER EVER draw WRONG conclusions! It's so easy! Normally I would agree, but I know for a fact that this lack of communication about a way forward with Sun

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Stefan Parvu
Fully agree that many variables changed since Oracle got Sun. As I posted on solarisx86 yahoo mailing list we need to wait a bit longer for all these things to be cleared but as well Oracle should commit and dont let space for confusion and mis-interpretations in a proper time frame window ;)

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Alexander Eremin ere...@milax.org wrote: On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 15:28 +0300, Martin Bochnig wrote: Hello. What? You prefer the head_into_the_sand-approach??? If +1 in that manner, then the same as response: Do you get it or don´t you Oracle´s DB is

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Stefan Parvu stefanparv...@yahoo.com wrote: Fully agree that many variables changed since Oracle got Sun. As I posted on solarisx86 yahoo mailing list we need to wait a bit longer for all these things to be cleared but as well Oracle should commit and dont

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Stefan Parvu stefanparv...@yahoo.com wrote: But this will take some time. FQ4' 2018 would be a good quarter for a first announcement and (maybe) meeting. What do you folks think?

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Matthias Pfützner
Mike You (Mike DeMarco) wrote: So, folks, again, GET USED TO the new communication, and DO NEVER EVER draw WRONG conclusions! It's so easy! Normally I would agree, but I know for a fact that this lack of communication about a way forward with Sun products is driving businesses

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Stephen Bunn
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:44:27 +0200 Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de wrote: Folks, also again: CALM DOWN! As I stated now MULTIPLE TIMES. Times are changing, GET USED TO IT! Oracle is a company (and you can proff it by yourself, if you LOOK BACK at Oracle's history of roadmaps and

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Matthias Pfützner
You (Stephen Bunn) wrote: Second.. and to be frank; This is what upsets most of us that are upset. The arrogance in your (and Oracle's) attitude. I'm not arrogant. Oracle might be, can't judge... You seem to be operating under the assumption that Open/Solaris is the only game in town and

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Svein Skogen
On 21.04.2010 14:15, Mike DeMarco wrote: So, folks, again, GET USED TO the new communication, and DO NEVER EVER draw WRONG conclusions! It's so easy! Normally I would agree, but I know for a fact that this lack of communication about a way forward with Sun products is driving businesses

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Martin Bochnig wrote: As far as I am aware, until now Oracle did not even talk to the OGB. I believe the OGB still has an open offer to meet with Oracle representatives once the new OGB manages to pick a meeting time. Unfortunately, we elected an OGB for which picking a good meeting time will

Re: [osol-discuss] Business use of OpenSolaris: enough to support commercial software?

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Kirk
Thanks for the responses here (and by email)! It sounds like the amount of work it would take to sanity-check our Solaris 10 betas on 2009.06 would be minimal: at least to get it out there and get feedback... and use such releases to test the waters. Even if it means our SE team carrying the

[osol-discuss] DNS BIND NAT'd within a private network - doesn't respond on INTERNAL view

2010-04-21 Thread Dr Lou
...after some experimentation, we've set up a private network, on its own subnet, to serve up multiple zones from one openSolaris box... One of these zones houses our name server (BIND 9.7.0); intention was to effectively 'chroot' it in this way, while serving DNS requests via the 'real'

[osol-discuss] Why are so many adapter card drivers closed source?

2010-04-21 Thread Michael Kerpan
I was shocked to find that the drivers for all sorts of storage and network adapters (including for pretty standard stuff like the Adaptec Ultra320 SCSI cards and Broadcom wired network cards) that have been supported by open drivers in Linux and *BSD since more or less the beginning of time ;)

[osol-discuss] Issues with graphical boot in b134?

2010-04-21 Thread Kyle McDonald
Hi, I recently installed b134 from the live CD on my Dell Lattitude D630 laptop. I can't remember now if the live CD used a graphical boot, but if it did it worked fine. The graphical boot on the installed system however spontaneously reboots my machine every time within 1-2 seconds of

Re: [osol-discuss] Issues with graphical boot in b134?

2010-04-21 Thread Matthias Pfützner
This has been discussed multiple times already here on this alias... ;-) Please check the archives, as I'm currently answering from my mobile... Search for 134 boot loop, that should provide enough hits, best would be an email from John Martin... Matthias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-

Re: [osol-discuss] Issues with graphical boot in b134?

2010-04-21 Thread Albert Lee
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:08:22 +0200, Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de wrote: This has been discussed multiple times already here on this alias... ;-) Please check the archives, as I'm currently answering from my mobile... Search for 134 boot loop, that should provide enough hits, best

[osol-discuss] Identifying what zpools are exported

2010-04-21 Thread Justin Lee Ewing
So I can obviously see what zpools I have imported... but how do I see pools that have been exported? Kind of like being able to see deported volumes using vxdisk -o alldgs list. Justin ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] [zfs-discuss] Identifying what zpools are exported

2010-04-21 Thread Erik Trimble
Justin Lee Ewing wrote: So I can obviously see what zpools I have imported... but how do I see pools that have been exported? Kind of like being able to see deported volumes using vxdisk -o alldgs list. Justin ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] [zfs-discuss] Identifying what zpools are exported

2010-04-21 Thread Justin Lee Ewing
On 04/21/10 02:16 PM, Erik Trimble wrote: Justin Lee Ewing wrote: So I can obviously see what zpools I have imported... but how do I see pools that have been exported? Kind of like being able to see deported volumes using vxdisk -o alldgs list. Justin

Re: [osol-discuss] [zfs-discuss] Identifying what zpools are exported

2010-04-21 Thread Erik Trimble
Justin Lee Ewing wrote: On 04/21/10 02:16 PM, Erik Trimble wrote: Justin Lee Ewing wrote: So I can obviously see what zpools I have imported... but how do I see pools that have been exported? Kind of like being able to see deported volumes using vxdisk -o alldgs list. Justin

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Bayard Bell
Martin, This is a fundamental misstatement of Oracle's position as a software vendor prior to acquiring Sun. Oracle faces considerable competition from sources such as MS SQL Server and DB2. It has nothing like a monopoly over the RDBMS market. To the extent that it does have a position

Re: [osol-discuss] In iSCSI hell...

2010-04-21 Thread bryanem
are you using comstar or the old iSCSI target (iscsitadm) to provision targets? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] [zfs-discuss] Identifying what zpools are exported

2010-04-21 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 21 April, 2010 - Justin Lee Ewing sent me these 0,3K bytes: So I can obviously see what zpools I have imported... but how do I see pools that have been exported? Kind of like being able to see deported volumes using vxdisk -o alldgs list. 'zpool import' /Tomas -- Tomas Ögren,

Re: [osol-discuss] [zfs-discuss] Identifying what zpools are exported

2010-04-21 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Hi Justin, Maybe I misunderstand your question... When you export a pool, it becomes available for import by using the zpool import command. For example: 1. Export tank: # zpool export tank 2. What pools are available for import: # zpool import pool: tank id: 7238661365053190141

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Bayard Bell buffer.g.overf...@googlemail.com wrote: Martin, This is a fundamental misstatement of Oracle's position as a software vendor prior to acquiring Sun. Oracle faces considerable competition from sources such as MS SQL Server and DB2. It has nothing

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are so many adapter card drivers closed source?

2010-04-21 Thread Ian Collins
On 04/22/10 04:25 AM, Michael Kerpan wrote: I was shocked to find that the drivers for all sorts of storage and network adapters (including for pretty standard stuff like the Adaptec Ultra320 SCSI cards and Broadcom wired network cards) that have been supported by open drivers in Linux and *BSD

Re: [osol-discuss] Identifying what zpools are exported

2010-04-21 Thread Ian Collins
On 04/22/10 06:59 AM, Justin Lee Ewing wrote: So I can obviously see what zpools I have imported... but how do I see pools that have been exported? Kind of like being able to see deported volumes using vxdisk -o alldgs list. zpool import, kind of counter intuitive! -- Ian.

[osol-discuss] Opensolaris

2010-04-21 Thread Steven Acres
All, The best model to look at IMHO is redhat/fedora. This was the initial proving ground of opensource (otherwise known as: how do we make money from something we give away?) Furthering that: CentOS. OpenSolaris is dead, Long live OpenSolaris! I always prefer action to reaction. And please

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-21 Thread john
Waiting Why no any office news about Opensolaris ? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-21 Thread Calum Benson
On 22/04/2010 00:13, john wrote: Waiting Why no any office news about Opensolaris ? Because, like every other time people have asked, it's not ready yet. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Interaction Designer Oracle Corporation, Ireland

[osol-discuss] Oracle charging for ODF plugin

2010-04-21 Thread bsd
http://www.osnews.com/story/23181/Oracle_Starts_Charging_90_USD_Per_User_for_ODF_Plugin Solaris 10 90-day evaluation No security patch downloads for free ODF plugin $90 (100 min) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle charging for ODF plugin

2010-04-21 Thread Ian Collins
On 04/22/10 11:39 AM, bsd wrote: http://www.osnews.com/story/23181/Oracle_Starts_Charging_90_USD_Per_User_for_ODF_Plugin Solaris 10 90-day evaluation No security patch downloads for free ODF plugin $90 (100 min) And the relevance of a windoze plugin to OpenSolaris is? -- Ian.

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle charging for ODF plugin

2010-04-21 Thread Giovanni Tirloni
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:39 PM, bsd mascotgr...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.osnews.com/story/23181/Oracle_Starts_Charging_90_USD_Per_User_for_ODF_Plugin Solaris 10 90-day evaluation No security patch downloads for free ODF plugin $90 (100 min) I think we've all exhausted the subject of

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle charging for ODF plugin

2010-04-21 Thread bsd
Relevance? The plugin used to be free, just like Solais 10 and patches. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle charging for ODF plugin

2010-04-21 Thread bsd
I merely posted a link to an article and refrained from saying anything about Oracle. If I dared to say anyting about what I think about what Oracle has done so far regarding Solaris 10, patches, the plugin, and what I think they'll do with OpenSolaris, then I'd have pitchforks thrown at me.

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle charging for ODF plugin

2010-04-21 Thread Alan Hargreaves
Title: signature You miss the point. This is a discussion list about OpenSolaris. Not about a Microsoft Office Plugins. Not about Solaris. Not about Solaris patches. The only reason to post this stuff (even without comment) would be to sow FUD or dissention. Quite honestly I'm getting sick of

Re: [osol-discuss] Seeing .nfs0000000000002def00000002 on nfs mounts from linux

2010-04-21 Thread Giovanni Tirloni
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Using an Osol b 133 nfs server. When working from a linux client I sometimes see files like: .nfs2def0002 .nfs2f6b0001 Appear on the filesystem as I'm working...

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Distributions

2010-04-21 Thread Krzysztof Abramowicz
AuroraUX currently is based on dragonflybsd kernel . But their tools are written in ada so it's no problem to port them again to opensolaris or other kernel . A person from aux project marino longer releasing gnat compiler for osol , so partial basing aux on osol still existing . -- This

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Edward Martinez
CALM DOWN! As I stated now MULTIPLE TIMES. Times are changing, GET USED TO IT! Oracle is a company (and you can proff it by yourself, if you LOOK BACK at Oracle's history of roadmaps and the likes), that ONLY PUBLISHES roadmaps, once the INKS ARE DRY! Do you KNOW anything about the

Re: [osol-discuss] In iSCSI hell...

2010-04-21 Thread Ron Mexico
are you using comstar or the old iSCSI target (iscsitadm) to provision targets? I'm using zfs set shareiscsi=on to confugure the logical units and COMSTAR for the rest on the OpenSolaris side. The targets are initiated on Solaris 10 with iscsiadm. This thing was humming right along and all

[osol-discuss] Sendmail as SASL auth client?

2010-04-21 Thread Hugh McIntyre
Back in May 2008, there was a question on desktop-discuss asking whether Solaris sendmail could be configured as an SASL auth client. The answer from John Beck was no, because [of] some issues with Solaris' libsasl implementation that are preventing this work from moving forward. So my