Re: [osol-discuss] Yet another warning about behaviour on this list

2010-07-16 Thread schatten
> What actually bothers me is that this has NOT been a > Gabby Goose section, at least not until recently. > And, no, not all "People have to understand" that > this is not a technical list. *You* understand it > to be a not technical list and it is quite > disingenuous, if not dangerous, to assum

Re: [osol-discuss] Transfered 23 GB over SCP from USA to Germany

2010-07-16 Thread Stephan Ferraro
> > When I compared the two files with md5sum on each > > side, I got different checksums. > > I did so a split of the file to 5 GB parts and > compared: > > > > Solaris: > ... > > 199d15f5204c14a97d29f86b14cd154b cpartad > > > Linux: > ... > > 0509b68893216f894ee394c0ab212cd2 cpartad > > You

Re: [osol-discuss] Why do we need Oracle's permission or vision for OpenSolaris?

2010-07-16 Thread Rob McMahon
On 15/07/2010 22:47, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: IMHO, The Oracle/Sun provided OpenSolaris reference distribution (henceforth referred to as Indiana to avoid confusion) has done the community a disservice, in the sense that it has prevented a community from producing something itself. All the oth

Re: [osol-discuss] Transfered 23 GB over SCP from USA to Germany

2010-07-16 Thread Nikola M
Stephan Ferraro wrote: > What scp should do is to do a full md5sum of the files on each side: > 1. One time calculating the md5sum before sending the file > Could you make .torrent file for first file , publish it in Bit Torrent client and then start download into the Dir on target machine with

Re: [osol-discuss] Transfered 23 GB over SCP from USA to Germany

2010-07-16 Thread Stephan Ferraro
> Stephan Ferraro wrote: > > What scp should do is to do a full md5sum of the > files on each side: > > 1. One time calculating the md5sum before sending > the file > > > Could you make .torrent file for first file , publish > it in Bit Torrent > client and then start download into the Dir on ta

Re: [osol-discuss] Transfered 23 GB over SCP from USA to Germany

2010-07-16 Thread Erik Trimble
On 7/16/2010 4:32 AM, Stephan Ferraro wrote: Stephan Ferraro wrote: What scp should do is to do a full md5sum of the files on each side: 1. One time calculating the md5sum before sending the file Could you make .torrent file for first file , publis

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris on DELL PowerEdge Servers

2010-07-16 Thread Chavdar Ivanov
> Just out of curiosity what firmware version do you > have on the network card from dell? It looks like > people with the 4.x version are not experiencing the > errors, but 5.x people are. > > do dmesg|grep bnx and look for the following line: > Jun 22 08:23:43 ipaapp bnx: [ID 995108 kern.info]

Re: [osol-discuss] [distribution-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-16 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Peter Tribble wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Mark Martin > wrote: >> Create a website and forums to allow the community to reorganize >> itself without the shadow of a hollow and unsupported charter. > > So the OGB would have to violate its own rules a

Re: [osol-discuss] Why do we need Oracle's permission or vision for OpenSolaris?

2010-07-16 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Alasdair Lumsden wrote: > Obviously the issue the community has is that we've never had the ability to > produce the distribution itself. We don't have the ability to build all the > packages that go into the IPS repo, nor produce the Live CD, nor do we have > an installer. And of course, findin

Re: [osol-discuss] [distribution-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-16 Thread Michael Kerpan
Rather than all the negativity that's been going around, let's focus on the positive things: 1. We still have the code, including code that's MUCH more recent than the last public binary build. 2. There are companies like Nexenta that might be able to help maintain OpenSolaris, even if Oracle deci

Re: [osol-discuss] [distribution-discuss] Why do we need Oracle's permission or vision for OpenSolaris?

2010-07-16 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
> You should be able to build the LiveCD using the > distribution constructor, if > you had a complete set of packages (so you can do > this for 134 now, but not > yet for later builds). I also don't understand why > you say you have no > installer when the Caiman project installers are all > ful

Re: [osol-discuss] [distribution-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-16 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Peter Tribble dot tribble at gmail dot com> wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Mark Martin > wrote: > >> Create a website and forums to allow the community > to reorganize > >> itself without the shadow of a hollow and > unsupported charter. > > > > So

Re: [osol-discuss] [distribution-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-16 Thread Hernan Saltiel
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Joerg Schilling < joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de> wrote: > Alan Coopersmith wrote: > > > joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: > > > The problem is that Sun/Oracle did already fork and changed things > without > > > asking the comunity whether this to b

[osol-discuss] How does the community benefit Oracle?

2010-07-16 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
People seem to keep asking what Oracle has done for them lately. It might be an interesting exercise to look at it from their point of view. What do they get out of engaging the community? That's what someone (maybe the OGB, who knows) may well have to be prepared to spell out if/when they talk t

Re: [osol-discuss] [distribution-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-16 Thread Hernan Saltiel
Hi, Peter! On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Peter Tribble wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Mark Martin > wrote: > > > > I submit to you that just as important, if not MORE important, is to > > wean the "community" off of Oracle's infrastructure and process. > > Not just that, but weanin

[osol-discuss] Getting current kernel thread or CPU Id in a driver

2010-07-16 Thread Shank
Hi, Can the function threadp() be used in a kernel driver to get the current kernel thread and the associated CPU Id? Thanks, Shank -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] How does the community benefit Oracle?

2010-07-16 Thread Ken Gunderson
Alpha testers? Beta testers? Sounds like a missed revenue opportunity to marketing. Otherwise, if they're not willing to pay, why should we spend time and engineering man hours to support such a program?? Testers? Bleh, who needs 'em??? National Cyber Alert System

[osol-discuss] shutting it (list) down entirely - emergency ML backup

2010-07-16 Thread Alexander von Gluck
[i]"If that proves ineffective we will consider other measures such as putting the list into moderation or shutting it down entirely."[/i] Due to this message by Oracle, I have created a new, unmoderated, emergency backup list on freelists.org just in-case of this worst case scenario: http://ww

Re: [osol-discuss] shutting it (list) down entirely - emergency ML backup

2010-07-16 Thread dd pn
OpenSolaris seems to be misspelled in that web site, just wanted to let you know -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] shutting it (list) down entirely - emergency ML backup

2010-07-16 Thread Alexander von Gluck
Fixed. :D I am a little dyslexic. ;) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] How does the community benefit Oracle?

2010-07-16 Thread Edward Martinez
Oracle can use Opensolaris to focus attracting future young solaris admins/dev/etc like they already do with java because opensolaris will not rot their brain like windows:-) http://java.sun.com/new2java/learning/young_developers.jsp -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] setting proper screen resolution

2010-07-16 Thread me
Just for your info you have an RS880 integrated video card (HD4200). You will have to ask the others on here about getting it to work at your desired resolution, but it is a graphics card that released after 2009.06 was published. I would try to use the latest dev distro 2010.b134 from genunix.o

Re: [osol-discuss] setting proper screen resolution

2010-07-16 Thread John Martin
On 07/16/10 12:20 PM, adidas wrote: here is Xorg.0.log Please help in setting up the proper resolution. You are using build 108 with an ATI Radeon HD 4200. It is falling back to the VESA driver which has restrictions on what resolutions are offered. What happens with build 134? __

[osol-discuss] extract wallpaper and login splash srceen

2010-07-16 Thread Edward Martinez
is there a way i can extract the default blue desktop wallpaper and login splash image from the 2009.06 liveCD. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] [distribution-discuss] Why do we need Oracle's permission or vision for OpenSolaris?

2010-07-16 Thread Shawn Walker
On 07/16/10 07:18 AM, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: ... Thanks again for this feedback. Do you know if the SVR4->IPS conversion tool(s) are publicly available/open source? The mass import tool is in the pkg(5) gate here: http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/pkg/gate/src/util/distro-import/ ...

Re: [osol-discuss] Getting current kernel thread or CPU Id in a driver

2010-07-16 Thread Bart Smaalders
On 07/16/10 08:38, Shank wrote: Hi, Can the function threadp() be used in a kernel driver to get the current kernel thread and the associated CPU Id? Thanks, Shank Yes, threadp returns a pointer to the current thread remember that threads migrate between CPUs w/o warning; any reference

Re: [osol-discuss] setting proper screen resolution

2010-07-16 Thread adidas
You are correct. I bought it last march only. Thanks for replying. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Transfered 23 GB over SCP from USA to Germany

2010-07-16 Thread Jürgen Keil
> I redownloaded the file cpartad and compared it with > "cmp -l" with the old file: > $ cmp -l cpartad cpartad.old > 4962108197 271 371 > > $ bc > ibase=10 > obase=2 > 271 > 1 > 371 > 101110011 > > It seems that 5 bits are wrong of the 23GB file transfer. The differences reported by cm

Re: [osol-discuss] Transfered 23 GB over SCP from USA to Germany

2010-07-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
Jürgen Keil wrote: > > I redownloaded the file cpartad and compared it with > > "cmp -l" with the old file: > > $ cmp -l cpartad cpartad.old > > 4962108197 271 371 > > > > $ bc > > ibase=10 > > obase=2 > > 271 > > 1 > > 371 > > 101110011 > > > > It seems that 5 bits are wrong of the 23

Re: [osol-discuss] Transfered 23 GB over SCP from USA to Germany

2010-07-16 Thread Brent Jones
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Jürgen Keil wrote: > >> > I redownloaded the file cpartad and compared it with >> > "cmp -l" with the old file: >> > $ cmp -l cpartad cpartad.old >> > 4962108197 271 371 >> > >> > $ bc >> > ibase=10 >> > obase=2 >> > 271 >> > 1 >>

Re: [osol-discuss] Transfered 23 GB over SCP from USA to Germany

2010-07-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
Brent Jones wrote: > > But then TCP checksums should discover the problem > Well if its getting read incorrectly from disk on the Linux side, it > will be transmitted incorrectly as well. TCP will only checksum the > transmission, which may not be at fault here. Then it may be a defect power su

Re: [osol-discuss] setting proper screen resolution

2010-07-16 Thread Paolo Brandoli
Hello, On Ubuntu I had to manually change the x configuration because the card wouldn't recognize the monitor frequencies automatically. Once I added the monitor frequencies to the x configuration file then the gnome control panel allowed to select the correct resolution. I think you may have t

Re: [osol-discuss] [distribution-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-16 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> The best of all worlds, IMHO, would be for us (the > community) to build > and maintain a website of our own that hosted a > minimalist distro of > our own, with IPS repos of our own, using only the > master mercurial > (and/or whatever) source repos mirrored from within > Oracle. > Explicitly NO

Re: [osol-discuss] [distribution-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-16 Thread Shawn Walker
On 07/16/10 01:26 PM, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: ... I like the idea of a minimalist distro, backed by a robust IPS. This is something which probably should have been started in the first place (instead of the current IMHO impossible mess). Now that you mentioned this great idea of putting togethe

Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-16 Thread Peter Jones
Then your distro will be forked from the Oracle released sources and you'll have created an extra hurdle for yourself to jump in recreating SVR4 package prototypes since those are no longer present in the ON & X gates, and will be removed from more of the source gates as more consolidations transit

Re: [osol-discuss] Transfered 23 GB over SCP from USA to Germany

2010-07-16 Thread Jürgen Keil
> > The differences reported by cmp -l are in octal; > > so this is actually a single bit error. > > But then TCP checksums should discover the problem That bit could have fllipped both on the sending or the receiving machine (before or after TCP is used). -- This message posted from opensolaris

Re: [osol-discuss] [distribution-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-16 Thread Hernan Saltiel
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 5:26 PM, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > > The best of all worlds, IMHO, would be for us (the > > community) to build > > and maintain a website of our own that hosted a > > minimalist distro of > > our own, with IPS repos of our own, using only the > > master mercurial > > (and/o

Re: [osol-discuss] 9 of 14 threads on discuss page 1 are about the (non)future of OpenSolaris

2010-07-16 Thread john kroll
Sorry to bring this thread up,again but I think I missed something. All I've ever heard of was Public or Private cloud ?? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Transfered 23 GB over SCP from USA to Germany

2010-07-16 Thread devsk
Another angle: Do either of the machines use non-ECC RAM? memtest+ may be in order on both of them. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Getting current kernel thread or CPU Id in a driver

2010-07-16 Thread Shank
Thanks Bart ! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org