Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris kernel based desktop - StormOS

2010-08-22 Thread Edward Martinez
want to add it seems with a chage in env var users get the opensolaris userland. note: SUN_PERSONALITY execve() system call logic implemented and it is finally allows Solaris-centric scripts to be executed in NexentaOS without modification file:///tmp/wiki.html#Personalities Personalities

Re: [osol-discuss] SNV_142 Test DVD Blastwave's AMP stack

2010-08-22 Thread Guy Woolley
I'm using b134/32-bit OSOL I tried to follow this procedure to upgrade to b142; everything seemed to go through OK but at the end I got this: PHASEACTIONS Removal Phase 54/54 DOWNLOAD

Re: [osol-discuss] place yer bets on who leaves next...

2010-08-22 Thread Giovanni Tirloni
Let me add some numbers... We know, that Sun was one of the IT companies, that spend an enormous percentage of it's revenue into engineering... More than 10 percent. If, and that's now a very crude approach, we then assume, that that relates to 10% of the costs also, we can assume, that

Re: [osol-discuss] places new

2010-08-22 Thread Peter Jones
I suspect that if they treat actual or potential customers that way, they may have some problem listening to mere engineers, too. (as opposed to parasites like MBAs maybe?) Oracle was always going to throw out of the pram what they can't use or understand...this throws up many opportunities. A

Re: [osol-discuss] Will this forum shut down?

2010-08-22 Thread Peter Jones
Is the forum controlled by Oracle or independent? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-22 Thread Octave Orgeron
Yeah as much as Linux folks believe Red Hat is their friend and giving everything away for free, you are sadly mistaken. Red Hat has always been about making money from Linux, make no mistake about it. And seeing how Novell is having issues, it's very likely that Red Hat will continue to be

Re: [osol-discuss] Will this forum shut down?

2010-08-22 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Peter Jones wrote: Is the forum controlled by Oracle or independent? The opensolaris.org website is owned and operated by Oracle. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System

Re: [osol-discuss] Will this forum shut down?

2010-08-22 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Peter Jones wrote: Is the forum controlled by Oracle or independent? The opensolaris.org website is owned and operated by Oracle. Website Guidelines with pointers to other site info here: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Main/site_guidelines Jim

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-22 Thread Uros Nedic
Without any irony, reading all smart ideas here I felt free to add few of them that might be useful. 1. Lets turn the name of our fork to OS-UX. Then, we wouldleave some trace of OpenSolaris project in the name of ourfuture work, and at the same time it would be shorten whichknows to be very

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-22 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris- discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Uros Nedic 1. Lets turn the name of our fork to OS-UX. Then, we wouldleave some LOL ... :-) But I'm not sure you were kidding. Are you sure you want to use a product called

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-22 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Uros Nedic wrote: Without any irony, reading all smart ideas here I felt free to add few of them that might be useful. 1. Lets turn the name of our fork to OS-UX. You are starting a new fork? The existing forks already have names, chosen by the people working on them, not spectators on

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-22 Thread Uros Nedic
You are starting a new fork? The existing forks already have names, chosen by the people working on them, not spectators on mailing lists. Like Oracle Solaris name is chosen by people working on it like you :).Or Solarix Express :). -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com

Re: [osol-discuss] place yer bets on who leaves next...

2010-08-22 Thread John Plocher
2010/8/20 Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de Let me add some numbers... ... that a high percentage might be working on Solaris might provide us with an approach to a number close to 1000 engineers... Of your 1000 engineers, maybe 100 were the senior leaders in innovation, vision, drive

[osol-discuss] When's source included?

2010-08-22 Thread Andrew Greimann
A big thank you to everyone who replied. It's appreciated. :) Basically, assessing everything said so far, to make a distro, one has to: 1. Build it from source 2. Include the binaries 3. Follow the guide for remastering -- Or, could it be include all

Re: [osol-discuss] When's source included?

2010-08-22 Thread John Plocher
If you build a distro and make the resulting binaries (an ISO image...) available on a website, all you need to do is provide a compressed tar file (or an ISO image of one) of the make cleand source tree you used - there is no reason to make the source tree part of your binary ISO image Since

Re: [osol-discuss] place yer bets on who leaves next...

2010-08-22 Thread Jason
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 4:42 PM, John Plocher john.ploc...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/20 Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de Let me add some numbers... ... that a high percentage might be working on Solaris might provide us with an approach to a number close to 1000 engineers... Of

Re: [osol-discuss] The last of the 5000?

2010-08-22 Thread John Plocher
Since it seams the website team is effectively gone (see Elaine and Derek's goodbye messages elsewhere), it may be hard to pull something like this together. Instead, how about a flickr tag (#opensolaris?) so anyone can post their own pictures and mashup an image stream? -John On Fri, Aug

Re: [osol-discuss] The last of the 5000?

2010-08-22 Thread Jim Grisanzio
John Plocher wrote: Since it seams the website team is effectively gone The website team is intact. You can find us on website-discuss for general issues and website-admin for user account issues. Other info here: Roadmap: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Main/roadmap Guidelines:

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-22 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris- discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Uros Nedic Like Oracle Solaris name is chosen by people working on it like you :).Or Solarix Express :). What's your point? ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris kernel based desktop - StormOS

2010-08-22 Thread William Bauer
OK, someone 'splain me somethin' I get how Solaris and OpenSolaris work, what packages are, IPS, how to install stuff, and all that. Been doing it for a couple decades. And by the way, I'm still holding out hope for the Solaris 11 developer release to effectively replace OpenSolaris.

Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris kernel based desktop - StormOS

2010-08-22 Thread Anil Gulecha
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:48 PM, William Bauer bqba...@gmail.com wrote: OK, someone 'splain me somethin' I get how Solaris and OpenSolaris work, what packages are, IPS, how to install stuff, and all that.  Been doing it for a couple decades.  And by the way, I'm still holding out hope

Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris kernel based desktop - StormOS

2010-08-22 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
OK, someone 'splain me somethin' I get how Solaris and OpenSolaris work, what packages are, IPS, how to install stuff, and all that. Been doing it for a couple decades. And by the way, I'm still holding out hope for the Solaris 11 developer release to effectively replace OpenSolaris.

Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris kernel based desktop - StormOS

2010-08-22 Thread William Bauer
I downloaded it out of curiosity. Looks like it's based on 2008.11 or close?! uname -a contains the string NexentaOS_20081207. The included FF is 3.0.5. The forum posts indicate this is a one man show. Upon boot of the live CD, it complains about Gnome not being installed properly, and I

Re: [osol-discuss] When's source included?

2010-08-22 Thread Erik Trimble
On 8/22/2010 4:51 PM, John Plocher wrote: If you build a distro and make the resulting binaries (an ISO image...) available on a website, all you need to do is provide a compressed tar file (or an ISO image of one) of the make cleand source tree you used - there is no reason to make the