Re: [osol-discuss] Where too now?

2010-08-14 Thread Ceri Davies
in a way i'm glad that we are not being cut off in a cold way sounds like we are getting invited to participate: I don't think so. It's an internal memo, remember? quote: We will be asking all of you to participate in this ndeavor, bringing with us the benefit of previous Sun Platinum

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-15 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 10:26:15AM -0500, Dave Miner wrote: Andrew Watkins wrote: The preview is absolutely an experiment. Indiana itself is an experiment. OpenSolaris? Well, I don't know what to call it ;-) I see Indiana is an experiment well I think it is more than that!

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris with iSCSI Luns and IPMP 3 x 1 Gbe eth SAN . Is it sensib

2007-12-09 Thread Ceri Davies
On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 11:53:27PM -0800, Chandan Maddanna wrote: Guys to be more clear, look at the diagram below, and tell me how to get a single load spread 2 Gbps link with IP Multi Pathing on Solaris 10 ? Note : Please see Image Below . img

Re: [osol-discuss] Self-hosting ON

2007-11-02 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 10:52:15AM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote: On 02/11/2007, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 09:28:52AM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote: On 02/11/2007, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 10:58:53AM +0100, Joerg Schilling

Re: [osol-discuss] Self-hosting ON

2007-11-02 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 09:28:52AM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote: On 02/11/2007, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 10:58:53AM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Not true: OpenSolaris is not even a complete basic OS. This has been a nagging concern for me for some time

Re: [osol-discuss] Self-hosting ON

2007-11-02 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 07:46:41AM -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Ceri Davies wrote: The compiler isn't a big issue for me, but the contents of closed/ and SUNWonbld definitely are; for one our codebase is somewhat of a lame horse without them and for two it's a PITA to have to check for new

Re: [osol-discuss] Self-hosting ON

2007-11-02 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 03:29:36PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 10:58:53AM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Not true: OpenSolaris is not even a complete basic OS. This has been a nagging concern for me for some time. I

[osol-discuss] Self-hosting ON

2007-11-02 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 10:58:53AM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Not true: OpenSolaris is not even a complete basic OS. This has been a nagging concern for me for some time. I find it somewhat uncomfortable that OpenSolaris (or rather, ON) is not self-hosting. The compiler isn't a big issue

Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana / SXCE / Sun Solaris 10 / Nevada - Gawd I'm CONFUSED

2007-11-02 Thread Ceri Davies
On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 07:56:14PM -0700, Ch?? Kristo wrote: SXCE (and SXDE) are going to be Sun Solaris 11 eventually, or at least their aim is to provide an unstable testing bed for Solaris 11 Note: The C stands for Community. I think that this has changed now...SXCE and SXDE

Re: [osol-discuss] Self-hosting ON

2007-11-02 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 05:59:30PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did already send this list many times, let me send it again. This is missing: Not to me :) Then you appeared recently on this mailing list. I've been here a while, but I don't

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] I'm sorry, but I just don't get it

2007-11-02 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 04:04:08PM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote: On 02/11/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then you shouldn't say you speak with one voice because that implies unanimity which is not the case here. You should say the majority of the OGB feels X way.

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] I'm sorry, but I just don't get it

2007-11-02 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 04:48:42PM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote: On 02/11/2007, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn, abstain only has one meaning. It's perfectly consistent and in layman's terms as it stands. Abstain has only one meaning but was not used in the context given

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name

2007-10-31 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 07:59:35PM +1300, Ian Collins wrote: MC wrote: Not that I care for bureaucracy, and not that I know what is happening here, but... I think if you strong-arm past the OpenSolaris community bureaucracy (and again, not saying you are, because I don't know much

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name

2007-10-31 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 12:08:12PM -0600, Jon Trulson wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Joerg Schilling wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More than 2 years ago, we did agreee that noone except Sun has the right to call a distro OpenSolaris and that Sun shoul/would not do this.

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name

2007-10-31 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 03:32:23PM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote: On 31/10/2007, Alan Burlison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Walker wrote: I just realized the above has lost some context, so just to be clear... When I say push above, I'm referring only to the naming of the today's

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name

2007-10-31 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:49:16PM +, Simon Phipps wrote: On Oct 31, 2007, at 21:23, Alan Burlison wrote: The normal way a democracy works is Framing OpenSolaris as a republic, constitutional monarchy or other political system doesn't help much in my view. This is an open

[osol-discuss] Bug submission

2007-09-28 Thread Ceri Davies
What happens to a bug after it is submitted to bugs.opensolaris.org? After hitting submit I'd expected to be given a bug id, but although I was told that the bug report was created, I have no idea what the id is and searching does not find it. Should I consider it missing and resubmit, or is

Re: [osol-discuss] Bug submission

2007-09-28 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 01:33:51PM -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Ceri Davies wrote: What happens to a bug after it is submitted to bugs.opensolaris.org? After hitting submit I'd expected to be given a bug id, but although I was told that the bug report was created, I have no idea what

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: BASH as root shell

2007-05-29 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 06:08:34AM -0700, UNIX admin wrote: How can I make BASH the root's default shell? Please, pretty please with sugar on top, don't modify the root's SHELL. Even though nothing *should* break, it could. Instead, modify /.profile: Shell=/bin/tcsh Options=-l if

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-16 Thread Ceri Davies
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 05:50:34PM -0400, Ian Murdock wrote: On 5/12/07, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 09:05:38AM -0400, Ian Murdock wrote: On 5/10/07, Frank Van Der Linden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter C. Norton wrote: You may continue to be snarky

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-16 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 04:53:16PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 05:50:34PM -0400, Ian Murdock wrote: On 5/12/07, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 09:05:38AM -0400, Ian Murdock wrote: On 5/10/07, Frank Van Der Linden [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-16 Thread Ceri Davies
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 06:46:39PM -0400, Ian Murdock wrote: On 5/13/07, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 03:01:32PM -0700, MC wrote: Two things: Improvement can only take place with change or supplementation. If something does not improve

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-14 Thread Ceri Davies
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 02:35:49AM -0400, Stefan Teleman wrote: On Saturday 12 May 2007 17:48, Ceri Davies wrote: I assume the community reserves its right to reject Project Indiana? Ceri You do not speak for the community. You speak for yourself, and yourself *only*. You certainly

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-14 Thread Ceri Davies
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 02:52:53AM -0700, Doug Scott wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 02:35:49AM -0400, Stefan Teleman wrote: On Saturday 12 May 2007 17:48, Ceri Davies wrote: I assume the community reserves its right to reject Project Indiana? Ceri You do

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-13 Thread Ceri Davies
On Sun, May 13, 2007 at 10:37:34AM +0100, a b wrote: Last time I used tcsh there was no way to do redirection properly, and therefore it sucked. It did everything else brilliantly, but every now and then I would find myself needing to redirect something and falling back to another

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-13 Thread Ceri Davies
On Sun, May 13, 2007 at 09:29:19AM -0700, UNIX admin wrote: ( ( cd /src/dir/ find . -depth -print | cpio -pvdmu /dst/dir/ ) /tmp/cpio.stdout ) /tmp/cpio.stderr Ha ha, that's the ugliest thing I ever saw. The beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder(TM). The parenthesis in the

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-13 Thread Ceri Davies
On Sun, May 13, 2007 at 09:19:12PM +0100, a b wrote: Well yes, I can see that, no need to shout. :) I wasn't shouting, STDOUT and STDERROR are traditionally written in UPPERCASE. Now I don't wish to be contrary, but even if that were true, the same cannot be said of the word all. Ceri --

Re: [osol-discuss] Paying Open Source Developers

2007-05-12 Thread Ceri Davies
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 09:44:26AM -0400, Bill Rushmore wrote: There was one bit of news from CommunityOne (i.e. the JavaOne pre-show) that I thought might have interesting consequences for the OpenSolaris community. That was the proposal to pay open source developers for their work.

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: About Project Indiana

2007-05-12 Thread Ceri Davies
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 03:49:52AM -0700, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: Firstly, let me state that upfront that I'm not sure that I have much sympathy for the familiarity problem; one problem for the non-Linux world is that a large proportion of free software developers have been

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-12 Thread Ceri Davies
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 12:35:19PM -0700, UNIX admin wrote: And usually with Linux. However, Even though I prefer tcsh, I don't think it's light-years ahead of bash. I've seen arguments on both sides. Did you read `tcsh`s man page? Last time I used tcsh there was no way to do redirection

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-12 Thread Ceri Davies
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 09:05:38AM -0400, Ian Murdock wrote: On 5/10/07, Frank Van Der Linden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter C. Norton wrote: You may continue to be snarky if ls -h became a common solaris invocation, but I doubt your users would be upset at no longer having to

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-12 Thread Ceri Davies
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 09:50:21AM -0400, Ian Murdock wrote: On 5/10/07, Christopher Frost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it too much to ask for the community 'behind' the future operating system to be informed of such decisions? Even proposals?? And that's exactly what you're

Re: [osol-discuss] Contributor Agreement

2007-05-11 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 09:53:00AM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: Not a grant of copyright, but clause #3 reads: You hereby grant to Sun, and to any party who receives Your Contribution, a perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, worldwide, no-charge, royalty-free, license under any patents

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:27:44PM -0700, Gueven Bay wrote: http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/-Sun-hopes-for-Linux-like-Solaris/0,130061733,339276057,00.htm http://news.com.com/Sun+hopes+for+Linux-like+Solaris/2100-1016_3-6182526.html?tag=nefd.lede

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: solaris 10 boot from SAN

2007-05-02 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 02:58:06AM -0700, shay wrote: Why I cannod download the FCode into the HBA QLA2342 I must download the FCODE qlc23xxFcode1.16 in order to see the Luns from the PROM. why? NOTE : solaris10(11/06), server type V240. Some outputs : #luxadm qlgc_s_download

Re: [osol-discuss] Contributor Agreement

2007-04-26 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 06:19:20PM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote: On 25/04/07, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 12:43:14PM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote: Again, I don't agree with your interpretation. However, if you wish to pursue this further, I suggest

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-26 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 05:25:54PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or move your star tool, which is frankly not nearly as important and useful a tool, perhaps. I would encourage you to inform yourself about star. It will be your favorite tar program

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-26 Thread Ceri Davies
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 03:22:27PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would encourage you to inform yourself about star. It will be your favorite tar program after you discovered all the features ;-) Oh, it's a good tar, don't get me wrong

Re: [osol-discuss] Contributor Agreement

2007-04-25 Thread Ceri Davies
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 11:55:55PM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote: On 20/04/07, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 06:13:16PM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote: On 19/04/07, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, and I don't have a problem with that. However, I

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-25 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 12:01:08PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Tom Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While doing this is a really good idea, I see potential name conflicts with older softare. Since 20..25 years, I create and publish programs like: smake, star, sformat,

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-25 Thread Ceri Davies
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 02:57:09PM -0500, Ted Pogue wrote: Project Overview: I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS.

Re: [osol-discuss] Contributor Agreement

2007-04-25 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 12:43:14PM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote: On 25/04/07, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 11:55:55PM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote: On 20/04/07, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 06:13:16PM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote

Re: [osol-discuss] Contributor Agreement

2007-04-20 Thread Ceri Davies
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 06:13:16PM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote: On 19/04/07, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, and I don't have a problem with that. However, I will also grant an irrevocable license to everyone who receives my contribution to do whatever they like

Re: [osol-discuss] Contributor Agreement

2007-04-19 Thread Ceri Davies
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 09:22:24AM -0400, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 13:23 +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: Am I correct in my interpretation that, had I signed this agreement, that would include this email? Does mail on an OpenSolaris mailing list constitute a submission

[osol-discuss] Contributor Agreemtn

2007-04-18 Thread Ceri Davies
Section 1 of the Contributor Agreement [1] states: 1. Contribution means any source code, object code, patch, tool, sample, graphic, specification, manual, documentation, e-mail, comment, posting, communication or any other material posted or submitted by You to a Project. Am I

[osol-discuss] Re: GPLv3?

2007-01-31 Thread Ceri Davies
Dennis, Hear, hear. Ceri This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org