Heh,
What got me was that I have a non-developer edition installed.
Consequently, without looking, I booted into the Developer Edition which
decided I wanted to ONLY install a new installation.
Luckily I was reading that part of it.
Upgrade worked perfectly well for me after that little hi
Hi There,
Nexenta could be thought as the next distribution, Solais 11, couldn't it?
What about SchilliX? I heard it first time. :(
Solaris 11 is Solaris 11, not NexentaOS.
Saying that NexentaOS is the next Solaris 11 is almost the same as
saying that OpenBSD is the next FreeBSD. That is, t
Nicolas,
If you're runing Gnome / JDS, you might be looking for:
"Gnome Main Menu"
"Preferences"
"Sessions"
Check what you have in the "Startup Programs" tab.
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Stephen.
I think that we ("we" being all of you) should be asking ourselves what
we think about GPLv3. What would it
mean to the community if we dual-licensed? It's now a possibility that
we could attach an "assembly exception"
to the GPLv3 which would let us mix GPL and CDDL code. This co
Jim,
It's true that CDDL has been attacked by some vocal opponents, and many
of them have also been proponents of GPL. However, I'd suggest that this
point be revised because it casts /all/ GPL proponents as anti-CDDL, and
I don't believe that's true.
I cannot take the CDDL parts of the Ope
Chris,
Things have to get simpler before they'll get better.
Have you ever tried to work out if the code you're writing relies
heavily enough on GPLv2 code that you need to GPLv2 it in a commercial
independent software vendor?
For some managers, contributing the parts one got free to the
Mon dieu,
But last time I looked, Linux was only to be licensed under the GPLv2;
if there moves to try to get it to go to GPLv3 then I'm on enough Linux
related mailing lists to hear the tremors coming...and I suspect those
tremors would be louder and more strident than a CDDL vs GPLv3 debat
Joerg,
You seem to oversee that Linux is only the kernel and that the FSF has control
over many of the userland tools used in typical Linux distributions.
Oh please.
The FSF knows the gravy train and it's unlikely to unilaterally sever
ties with the one operating system that isn't actually
PRINTABLE MANY PAGE SOLARIS MANUAL PROJECT - OPEN FOR BUSINESS
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/pmpsm/
16 February 2007
On the 16th of January, 2007, David Lloyd proposed an OpenSolaris
project to develop and create a number of printable "many page" Solaris
manuals. The
Brad,
Ok I have some linux experience (not much) and wanted to learn solaris on my
own time without dishing out to sun to do so. I can across this page...
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/#use
and see all these choices. I'd love some opinions on which one you think is the
closest to
Brad,
thank you so much for the detailed response..actually since I was using fedora
I don't know apt I know rpm/yum (well kinda)
NexentaOS' package system behaves almost exactly like Debian's and Ubuntu's:
"Create, Remove, Update Delete":
apt-get install [the package]
apt-get remove [
Jason,
<3rd grade chanting>Packing's gonna get fixed...packaging's gonna get
fixed...!
Indeed, apt-get for Solaris would be quite useful :P
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Joe,
Indeed, apt-get for Solaris would be quite useful :P
Isn't that Nexenta? Had to say it.
I don't want the Ubuntu Userland on an OpenSolaris code base. I'd prefer
a distribution as close to Sun's release of Sun Solaris (tm) that I can
get but without Sun Solaris', errrm, wonderful? pac
Alan,
I don't think you really care about .deb packages either, what I *think*
you're saying is "give me a packaging system that works like apt does!", if I
understand you correctly. I'm in agreement with you, if that is what you
meant, and packaging is being looked at inside (Open)Solaris En
Hmmm...
AMD contributed the graphics driver for it to X.Org and
continues to maintain it there, but we've never shipped
it in Solaris/OpenSolaris. I don't know of any reason
it would take more than 10 minutes to just drop into our
trees and build though.
Aren't those things being sold in th
Guavan.
You know what, I totally disagree with this move: Don't make Solaris Linux like, BUT teach us Linux
guys the Solaris way. As I read here again and again the "POSIX way" - what ever that
means, at least I don't know, and I am sure many "young"(as in age and as in new to Unix)
Linux
Ooo,,,
the installer has
ZFS boot/root support, etc.
Huzzah! Now, I wonder if a Solaris built on built on Sun Studio (such as
SXCE) would live nicely in a distro built on GCC...
*That* would be interesting.
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Jeremy,
just installed Nevada b55b. Is this a stable release, or a beta release? how
secure is this release? can I use this in a production enviroment? is it easy
to upgrade?
I can't speak for Sun (obviously), however Nevada is the code name for
the next production release of Solaris. It *
John,
What do you see that we are missing here? Other than more experienced
and committed developers to work on the ports themselves, I can't
think of any barriers or cultural disconnects...
I think you've identified the issue here; also if we're going to become
more like NetBSD [1] then we
Blastwave has it:
-bash-3.00# pkg-get -a | grep mysql
mysql4 4.1.22,REV=2006.11.28
mysql4bench 4.1.22,REV=2006.11.28
mysql4client 4.1.22,REV=2006.11.28
mysql4devel 4.1.22,REV=2006.11.28
mysql4rt 4.1.22,REV=2006.11.28
mysql4test 4.1.
Hi There,
i am new to solaris i m having solaris 10 on my x86 pc i am very much in solaris
system admin i need guides on solaris plz help how to start & im having problem
with sun studio i cannot make path is solaris plz help me
pl
Here's a link for the Sun Admin G
Hmmm...
On 24/06/07, carlos antonio neira bustos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
one of the jewels has been stolen ...
You can't steal what you freely been given permission to use.
Will ZFS be more stable on its native OS or in userland on Linux? It
could be stable on both but I suspect a risk
Hmmm...
> In which build of Solaris Express Community CDE will be removed?
> Is there any information?
...and will there be a:
"The Gnome / JDS Desktop is having a serious bad hair day, so boot into:
* twm
* fvwm
* ...name a window manager"
...by default? Having a more light weight wind
Hi There,
I'd just thought I'd drop a note and say...
Eclipse
---
PROS
* Better Perl Support
Epic (e-p-i-c.sourceforge.net) simply rocks as a Perl development
environment. It integrates nicely with Perl tidy, has great syntax
highlighting, progressive builds (so you can see where you'v
Hmmm...
> apt-get merely sits ontop of debian packages - nothing stopping anyone
> (or you for that matter) to implement apt-get for SVR5 pkg's.
NexentaOS already has...
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Well,
Last night (31 July, 2007 Australian CST), I decided to go get my
Solaris Performance and Tools (Sun Microsystem Press / McDougall, Mauro
and Gregg) which happened to be on the bottom pile of a set of books on
my kitchen table.
Opening the book, the pages seemed decidedly and uniformly
Nasser,
> For instance, the code completion feature helps users with writing D
scripts.
> The code completion feature is not included in first release of the
> DTrace GUI.
Believe me, such features are very useful for seasoned programmers as
well. Not that I'm a D scripter by any means, but
Well,
> Yup, that's what the article I read a month or so stated. MMORPGs like
> WoW are the most successful of the PC games anymore. Probably because of
> the way you play them. It'd be hard(er) to do on a console. Damn, I need
> to find that article again.
Of course they are - not only can
Ian et al,
> If you were sure all of the dependencies have been identified and
> updated, Yes, you could. That's how Blastwave packages are updated.
Blastwave is a good option for:
a) Things that aren't in SXCE or SXDE
b) Being able to upgrade bits and pieces and being reasonably certain
t
Matthew,
> Side issue though, it would be great for RealPlayer/StarOffice
> integration so that media files that are bundled in OOXML documents can
> be opened and viewed on *NIX; IIRC RealPlayer 2.0 is apparently aiming
> for WMV/WMA playback - hopefully we'll see a Solaris build of that
> soon
Ronald,
> Well, no matter what I try, the install program wants to use my entire hard
> drive.
It is possible to stop it from wanting to use the entire hard drive,
however one has to override the installer's default partitioning scheme
(which, as you've correctly identified, is the entire har
Well,
>> Oh, well, there's always linux.
>
> It's probably a good idea to be proficient with Linux first, then you'll
> appreciate Solaris better. Not everyone will be admitted to the Shaolin
> Temple even if you have a strong desire to learn Kung-Fu (& strive to become
> another Jet Li). :
Boyd,
> Isn't this what
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/advocacy/immigrants/ was
> intended for?
Yes, but "immigrants" isn't exactly an obvious name to some...maybe
"newbies" could be aliased to redirect to that one? I would also note
that in many countries now, the word "immigrant"
Brandorr,
> I think it would be great if we could get a good discount on one x86
> and/or one Sparc Niagra server or workstation. (Of course I think it
> would be great)
I know that there's at least one university in Australia who provide VM
access to a high end server running GNU/Linux instan
Ian et al,
[trying again]
> AMD/nVidia motherboards and graphics are a safe bet. I've built quite a
> few systems with this combination, including QuadFX and all the
> components "just work".
I'm currently using a:
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=534&l4=0&model=1637&modelmenu=
Daniel,
> I have my roots in the Linux and *BSD worlds. When I install a system, I am
> used to create separated partitions (slices) for /usr, /opt, /, /var, /tmp.
> It's an old habit. I just like it this way... ;)
Fair enough...you may want to look into ZFS at some stage which makes
"partiti
Richard,
> My Seaside/Squeak application uses [b]PostgreSQL[/b], too.
Postgres is supported on Solaris.
> 1) Does Solaris have a software repository and package management system
> comparable to Ubuntu's apt-get in terms of ease-of-use, up-to-date packages,
> and extensiveness of repository (
Gerard,
> How do i manage user accounts in solaris, by just using the shell (not the
> SMC)?
man useradd (take note of the note at the very bottom of this man page)
man usermod
man userdel
man roleadd (if you are using roles)
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"Proposition 1" (P1)
Schillix, Martux,Belenix and NexentaOS are obviously not going to be
Sun Solaris 11.
"Proposition 2" (P2)
SXCE (and SXDE) are going to be Sun Solaris 11 eventually, or at least
their aim is to provide an unstable testing bed for Solaris 11
Note: The C stands
Howdy,
W. Wayne Liauh wrote:
> In Firefox, I can press the slash key ("/") to bring up the search box.
> However, there does not appear to be any option to do next (forward or
> backward) search. Am I missing something obvious? Thanks. I am running
> SXCE77.
You could do "crtl+f" and then
Brilliant - I never knew that :)
DSL
Wilson Kwok wrote:
> David Lloyd wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> W. Wayne Liauh wrote:
>>
>>> In Firefox, I can press the slash key ("/") to bring up the search
>>> box. However, there does not appear to be
Brian,
> I think that you need to remember that SXCE serves more than one
> purpose. One purpose is to serve as the base binary distribution
> system on which OpenSolaris development is based.
In another thread, though, it appears that Indiana is meant to replace
SXCE...
> This is required
> b
Hi,
I intend to run Solaris Community Edition or Solaris 10 for my desktop
system and to purchase a system from Sun.
I am, though, finding it difficult to determine if I should go for a
Sparc Ultra IIIi solution or an AMD Opteron solution.
For example:
* An A89-XHZB1-9AF-1GDT (Sun 25 1.
Moinak,
I downloaded the Operating System/Network consildation (1) from:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/on/
...and this appeared on my system:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/jdk/jdk1.6.0$ ./bin/java -fullversion
java full version "1.6.0-rc-b94"
I would note that I have to grab Java SDK 1
Hi There,
My Solaris installation takes a long time to shut down (it seems to be
inordinately long).
Here's what I do:
1. Log in as myself
2. su -
3. shutdown -g0 -i5 -y
X stops almost straight away and then my machine just "does nothing".
Eventually, I'm told that the CDE Login service
Hi There,
I've determined that if I BFU my system:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
SunOS orthanc 5.11 opensol-20061030 i86pc i386 i86pc
...to opensol-20061103 that I get a kernel panic just after the initial
SunOS copyright notices and then the system reboots.
However, the system reboots s
Hmmm...
I attach a short prtconf output, but a verbose output is at:
-bash-3.00# uname -a
SunOS orthanc 5.11 opensol-20061030 i86pc i386 i86pc
-bash-3.00# prtconf
System Configuration: Sun Microsystems i86pc
Memory size: 768 Megabytes
System Peripherals (Software Nodes):
i86pc
scsi_vhc
Casper,
I've determined that if I BFU my system:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
SunOS orthanc 5.11 opensol-20061030 i86pc i386 i86pc
...to opensol-20061103 that I get a kernel panic just after the initial
SunOS copyright notices and then the system reboots.
However, the system reboots so
Max,
Well Bill, i would use it on a desktop with adsl and would like to keep on
using web applications mainly, such as IM, browsing, etc.
There should be no particular problem using it for the above
requirements, providing as others noted, all your hardware is supported.
I guess there wo
This page:
https://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/onnv_putback_logs/
...is apparently missing.
I got to it by signing in and then clicking on the link to the "putback
logs". On my full-screen browser, that link's about 1/4 way down the
page on screen.
DSL
Has anyone managed to work out how to get SWT to work on the ON
consolidation? By this, I mean:
* Eclipse/Netbeans/Woteva manages to find the SDK
* Using some kind of possibly horrendous arcane syntax, one can get SWT
applications to display momentarily and THEN crash (as opposed to
just
Hi There,
There are a number of bugs marked as duplicates, eg:
* http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6484330
* http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6414868
However, the bug tracking tool doesn't say what they are duplicates of.
This implies that:
* The bugs are NOT d
Hi There,
Very soon now, WA in Australia will go into Daylight Savings - does
anyone know if there's an update for the timezone files for this for
Open Solaris?
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Hari,
Finally, what about support?
Open Solaris support is as good, if not better, than many of the open
source projects I've worked with previously. This is espcially so if
you're not an "average desktop" user.
I've been using Linux for a number of years now and switched to Open
Solaris
Errk,
Why? OpenSolaris is Solaris, and vice versa. Try as hard as you might,
for all intents and purposes, those two are one and the same.
No no no no no no no no.
and once more for good measure: no.
If you maintain this sort of mentality, then OpenSolaris will never be a
separate entity.
Hari,
Wow! I had no idea my original post would lead to this much of discussions.
Welcome to a vibrant, open source community :)
Anyway.. I got what I wanted know. . I think I will go with Nexenta for a while and then maybe eventually switch to the Community Express edition.
FWIW, I think
Stephen,
I know that it's not "just" a very barebones kernel distribution
[there's *6* CDs - if a barebone kernel installation took*6* CDs I'd
be worried] but it doesn't actually say I have "Solaris Express". I
probably don't - but if I don't what *do* I say I have without
confusing anyone
Hah,
I managed to install the CD ISO version of Centos 3.8 without a glitch.
I simply followed the Brand Z community's instructions and left the
installer(s) going overnight.
Only real question is that when I've logged in to the system using
"zlogin linux" and do:
# export DISPLAY="192.1
Edward,
did you make sure to enable remote x access via the xhost(1) command
> on 192.168.1.247
Yes.
However, because of Gtk's refusal to report what DISPLAY, it looks like
it's not seeing the DISPLAY variable at all.
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Darren,
I find the easiest way to deal with this is to use ssh to enter the
CentOS zone not zlogin. That way ssh X11 forwarding gets you this setup.
I discovered the same thing; I probably will take a look at it when I
have the time.
DSL
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Patrick,
so as i don't know where the bad blocks are but i'd still like to use some of
the rest of the disk, i thought ZFS might be able to help. i partitioned the
disk so slices 4,5,6 and 7 are each 5GB. i thought i'd make one or multiple
zpools on those slices and then i'd be able to na
Nacho,
In Argentina adsl usb modems are all you get from isps when you ask
for adsl for your home and i know from experience ( i was a very early
beta tester of the cxacru driver for linux) that you get usb modems in
spain and italy too
In Australia we generally got modems which could do both
Hi There,
I have a:
bash-3.00$ cat /etc/motd
Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.11 opensol-20061211Dec. 12,
2006
SunOS Internal Development: stevel 2006-12-12 [tonic.20061211]
bfu'ed from /export/home/bfu/archives-20061211/i386/ on 2006-12-16
Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.11
John,
I had a similar issue with my system at work.
What I did was to edit /etc/default/dhcpagent
and uncomment # CLIENT_ID= and add:
CLIENT_ID= [hostname expected on your work network]
My issue isn't with the DHCP server. In fact, if I get my setup from the
DHCP server, DNS works. It's jus
Stephen,
I think the crux of the "contribution" is financial in this particular
case.
Since there is no OpenSolaris corporation, and all current funding comes
from
Sun, there's no provision for anyone else to provide any kind of direct
funding
to the community.
...which leads to this quest
Isidoro,
Just installed Solaris 10, I am totally new at this OS, when asked for username
and password the system goes to sleep cause it can't recognize my username. Not
sure what to log in as, I tried 'root', but I am left clueless. Can somenone
help, totally new to Solaris.
When I've inst
Isodoro,
David I am about to give up, this is very frustrating, why can I simply
login to the desktop?
Unfotunately you're probably a long way away from me so I can't really
offer to take a look in real life.
I used root as username and tried three
installations, one with DHCP but no luck f
Hello,
Please be patient as I am new to Solaris and I did read the webpages. I
was not able to fully comprehend the difference between the Solaris
Express "plain" edition and the community editions. It says that "plain"
is for Sun's customers and "community" is for developers. I am neither,
bu
Hmmm...
Note that all ACPI-compliant machines should implement a power-button
over-ride, if you press and hold the power button longer than 4 seconds,
the machine will power-off immediately. If you have a machine stuck
during power-off, then you can try this over-ride.
I've always found the
Is there any way to convince SMF to be verbose on startup and shutdown?
Whilst it will tell me if something has failed, it's not altogether
obvious what it's doing (and sometimes I worry if it's just going slow
or it's silently hung on something).
DSL
Hmmm...
`vi` has this property that it can become ingrained in one's "muscle
memory". And once that happens, one starts punching in `vi`
keystrokes... in any editor. Can't imagine how I ever did without `vi`.
I used to be the same with Wordstar ^KB ^KK ^KY... Now my M$ Word
documents are li
Hi There,
I have:
* https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=168961
...as a blocker however noone's commented on it.
My current work around is to use Eclipse running on Centos 3.8 (in a
BrandZ zone) but I'd really prefer to run it "natively"...
Is there an Eclipse on Solaris communi
Hi There,
Well from that bug it looks like you actually need to file it against the Solaris x86 JVM and not eclipse.
I filed a bug a few hours ago with the same info at the URL mentioned in
the crash report.
If the problem was somewhere inside eclipse native code (SWT) the JVM would
have
Dennis,
Let's just say that the instalelr is a piece of crud that had been kicking
around forever. When you install a production grade Solaris with CDROM's
it will still load in each CDROM one at a time and then it stupidly asks
you what to do with the CDROM that it just read? Shall I in
Dennis,
I'm not so sure we've got the culprit here. I'd blame X...they're just
as painful in Linux and FreeBSD.
Well, I'm not a Linux guy ya know? But it feels like lately when I
install Red Hat Enterprise Linux or SUSE Enterpoop Linux 10 or boot a
KnoppiX DVD that everything looks sweet a
Hmmm...
And the MS-WIN GUI is only "easy to use" for the people who spend a long
time to learn it's oddness.
Naturlich. Deutsch ist besser als Englisch. Also, wir mussen Deustch
sprechen. Vielleicht, die Welt wird eines Tages die Wahrheit wissen!
The same can be said for English...so why d
Heh,
Solaris will run 99% of the applications that are available for Linux,
like MySQL, PostgreSQL, PHP, Apache2, gcc, Firefox, Mozilla, Evolution,
XMMS, X-Chat, etc. etc.
And if you can't get it working under Solaris, you can always try Centos
3.8 :P
DSL
_
Heh,
Solaris will run 99% of the applications that are available for Linux,
like MySQL, PostgreSQL, PHP, Apache2, gcc, Firefox, Mozilla, Evolution,
XMMS, X-Chat, etc. etc.
And if you can't get it working under Solaris, you can always try Centos
3.8 in a BrandZ Linux zone :P
DSL
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--
This project would need no further requirements than those that can be
managed as detailed on the OpenSolaris web-site (3).
David Lloyd
(1) http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/immigrants/announcements/
(2) http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~squadron/
(3) http://www.o
Hi,
Most of the Open Solaris distros are only for x86 architectures,
though I could not check all of them because those projects are not
forthcoming about system requirements. The ones that do mention system
requirements make no mention of additional ZFS requirements.
They all use the OpenSol
However, if you have free memory that could be use to cache something,
then why not use some/all/most of it? I certainly expect any operating
system to try to use as much memory as possible and if it happens to use
it as some sort of file system backing cache, good on it...
The real questi
Hmmm...
No idea of standards document! I do not think any such document exists
at all for
MBR partitioning scheme. See this:
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/storage/GPT_FAQ.mspx
(Question: 2. What is wrong with MBR partitioning ?).
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/Wi
this "modern" age
is debatable. My stance tends more to be:
"David Lloyd would like you to give back to the community any changes
you make to his code but if you happen to couple his code with other
code that doesn't require the changes to be submitted, so be it.."
In ot
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