Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-25 Thread Dr. Robert Pasken
And Indiana is pushing me away from Solaris. If I wanted the poorly thought out and unstable crap that comes the linux mindset I would just go with linux. I am looking for something that is well thought out and stable This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-25 Thread Shawn Walker
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Dr. Robert Pasken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And Indiana is pushing me away from Solaris. If I wanted the poorly thought out and unstable crap that comes the linux mindset I would just go with linux. I am looking for something that is well thought out and stable

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-25 Thread Brian Utterback
Dr. Robert Pasken wrote: And Indiana is pushing me away from Solaris. If I wanted the poorly thought out and unstable crap that comes the linux mindset I would just go with linux. I am looking for something that is well thought out and stable Simple enough, ignore Indiana. Use Solaris 10

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-17 Thread Uwe Dippel
[i]Maybe because it costs Sun too much money to maintain multiple release preview trains?[/i] Maybe, maybe, maybe. Probably. Still, as member of a target audience (so I understand), to me the money seems - another time - not wisely spent. Having been on Linux since early RedHat, later on

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-15 Thread Andrew Watkins
The preview is absolutely an experiment. Indiana itself is an experiment. OpenSolaris? Well, I don't know what to call it ;-) I see Indiana is an experiment well I think it is more than that! From: Net Talks Webcast Details: Sorting Out Solaris Releases

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-15 Thread Shawn Walker
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 6:43 AM, Andrew Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The preview is absolutely an experiment. Indiana itself is an experiment. OpenSolaris? Well, I don't know what to call it ;-) I see Indiana is an experiment well I think it is more than that! Marketing and

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-15 Thread Dave Miner
Andrew Watkins wrote: The preview is absolutely an experiment. Indiana itself is an experiment. OpenSolaris? Well, I don't know what to call it ;-) I see Indiana is an experiment well I think it is more than that! Eventually, we expect it will be more, that's what Larry is saying.

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-15 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 10:26:15AM -0500, Dave Miner wrote: Andrew Watkins wrote: The preview is absolutely an experiment. Indiana itself is an experiment. OpenSolaris? Well, I don't know what to call it ;-) I see Indiana is an experiment well I think it is more than that!

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-15 Thread Peter Tribble
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Dave Miner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The preview is absolutely an experiment. Indiana itself is an experiment. OpenSolaris? Well, I don't know what to call it ;-) I realize from that answer that my question was ill-formed. It's clear that there is some

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-15 Thread Shawn Walker
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 10:26:15AM -0500, Dave Miner wrote: Andrew Watkins wrote: The preview is absolutely an experiment. Indiana itself is an experiment. OpenSolaris? Well, I don't know what to call it ;-)

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-14 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dave Miner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The old shell is now: /usr/has/bin/sh Well, then Sun seems to start an incompatible fork from OpenSolaris. Sigh. We have made no statements about compatibility with anything, either past or future, in the preview releases. It's an experiment.

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-14 Thread Shawn Walker
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:54 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Miner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The old shell is now: /usr/has/bin/sh Well, then Sun seems to start an incompatible fork from OpenSolaris. Sigh. We have made no statements about compatibility

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-14 Thread Lurie
So what are you basically saying is that: Solaris should keep /bin/sh for as long as it stands even if a more stable/more flexible/better designed/ exists just because there may be old customers without renewed support (I'm sure customers with support would have their scripts fixed in no time)

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default user shell) What do you understand by *system* shell? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni)

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 13, 2008 11:10 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default user shell) What do you understand by *system* shell? /sbin/sh, /usr/bin/sh are now really ksh93. The old shell

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 13, 2008 11:10 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default user shell) What do you understand by *system* shell? /sbin/sh,

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Dave Miner
Joerg Schilling wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 13, 2008 11:10 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default user shell) What do you understand by *system*

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Peter Tribble
On Feb 13, 2008 8:44 PM, Dave Miner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh. We have made no statements about compatibility with anything, either past or future, in the preview releases. It's an experiment. The negativity some of you have towards experiments just amazes me sometimes. But what's the

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Dave Miner
Peter Tribble wrote: On Feb 13, 2008 8:44 PM, Dave Miner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh. We have made no statements about compatibility with anything, either past or future, in the preview releases. It's an experiment. The negativity some of you have towards experiments just amazes me

Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Rich Teer
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Shawn Walker wrote: /usr/has/bin/sh ...since it is a hasbin :) Groan! -- Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA, OGB member CEO, My Online Home Inventory URLs: http://www.rite-group.com/rich http://www.linkedin.com/in/richteer http://www.myonlinehomeinventory.com