On 9/16/10 2:00 PM, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Richard L. Hamiltonrlha...@smart.net wrote:
Well...there are probably people that prefer for example
* traditional Solaris command set default vs GNU command set default
This is why few Solaris users did accept Indiana.
Alan,
You (Alan Coopersmith) wrote:
On 9/16/10 2:00 PM, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Richard L. Hamiltonrlha...@smart.net wrote:
Well...there are probably people that prefer for example
* traditional Solaris command set default vs GNU command set default
This is why few
* SVR4 packages vs IPS vs whatever packaging scheme Nexenta uses
(there too there's a problem, inasmuch as other tools like beadm and zonecfg
are also involved, although I gather it ought to be possible to come up with
different versions of them for each packaging scheme that some distro or
Once upon a time Calum Benson wrote:
Anyone who wanted to was always free to contribute such packages to
OpenSolaris, via spec-files-extra and later, Source Juicer. Not
many people ever did, and of those, not everyone subsequently kept
them up to date. If OpenIndiana can find the people to
I (Matthias Pfützner) wrote (to many typoes, so here I go again...):
It depends, on who you set up your $PATH... I, for one, do it, be appending,
how by
It's to early in the morning... Brain not completly working at full speed
yet..
Hi,
On 16.09.10 19:18, Jason wrote:
I think part of that was the rather excessive amount of work just to
get a usable build environment to be able to do that,
Installation of SXCE or OSol and running one script was the rather
excessive amount of work? Even before the script for installing
Cloning somewhat helps with the disk footprint, but
the savings there will
get lower over time as more and more binaries are
upgraded. We clearly
have to work on that. The memory saving of sparse
root zones was nothing
to sniff at.
So a share-able executable, library, or object had
Cloning somewhat helps with the disk footprint, but
the savings there will
get lower over time as more and more binaries are
upgraded. We clearly
have to work on that. The memory saving of sparse
root zones was nothing
to sniff at.
So a share-able executable, library, or object had
Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote:
SVR4 packages support sparse zones, IPS does not.
OpenSolaris doesn't have sparse zones, so there nothing to support.
Looks like you are confusing OpenSolaris with Indiana.
If I remember the threads at the time, they were (rightly) considered
On 17 Sep 2010, at 08:32, Jyri J. Virkki wrote:
Once upon a time Calum Benson wrote:
Anyone who wanted to was always free to contribute such packages to
OpenSolaris, via spec-files-extra and later, Source Juicer. Not
many people ever did, and of those, not everyone subsequently kept
them
Ok, I understand your point. And it is cool with you
being first with several things.
I am only asking if all distros cooperated on one
single distro, would it not be better if there was
only one official community distro. It does not
matter to people if it is Schillix or OpenIndiana, as
I just have a small suggestion. Whatever distribution we make, please
make available packages like FreeBSD ports or Debian. That's the only
way we can make it more popular with Admins and new users.
Ashish Nabira
Enterprise IT Architect
Email ashish.nab...@sun.com
On 16-Sep-10, at 1:28 PM,
I just have a small suggestion. Whatever distribution
we make, please
make available packages like FreeBSD ports or Debian.
That's the only
way we can make it more popular with Admins and new
users.
Ashish Nabira
Enterprise IT Architect
Email ashish.nab...@sun.com
Are you talking
Richard L. Hamilton rlha...@smart.net wrote:
Well...there are probably people that prefer for example
* traditional Solaris command set default vs GNU command set default
This is why few Solaris users did accept Indiana.
* SVR4 packages vs IPS vs whatever packaging scheme Nexenta uses
Nabira nab...@sun.com wrote:
From: Ashish Nabira nab...@sun.com
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Merge other distros to OpenIndiana?
To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010, 4:18 AM
I just have a small suggestion.
Whatever distribution we make, please make
I am talking about the number of pakages which are installable from
repositories. Debian,Ubuntu have more than 30,000 pakages. I know most
of them are not used by Server Admins. But new unix users do find it
difficult to install pakages by compiling.
For example in Ubuntu, you can try the
I am talking about the number of pakages which are installable from
repositories. Debian,Ubuntu have more than 30,000 pakages.
But it should be mentioned that among those 30,000 packages, 10,000+ of
them are terminal audio players (5682 to be exact and none of them is
fully functional), or
Hi Michael;
I agree with you completely.
I have made it work like that only. But the point is you have to go to
different repos for this. I have lot of such examples, which I
finished testing on Ubuntu and then deployed it on Opensolaris, with
help from Sunfreeware, blastwave etc. New
On 16 Sep 2010, at 14:04, Ashish Nabira wrote:
Lets add those important packages to repositories and make OpenIndiana
popular to newbiesThat's one good way to make it popular .
Anyone who wanted to was always free to contribute such packages to
OpenSolaris, via spec-files-extra and
Shouldn't the same packages Oracle publishes for Solaris 11 work on
OpenIndiana? - would all the dependencies break?
Is the concern that Oracle won't publish desktop-oriented packages? -
the examples given before were more server-oriented...
Thanks,
Kent
I think part of that was the rather excessive amount of work just to
get a usable build environment to be able to do that, or in the case
of jucr, its incredible opaqueness which made doing anything with it
incredibly painful (I finally gave up myself). If you make things
hard (or take a lot more
On 09/16/10 05:00 AM, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Richard L. Hamiltonrlha...@smart.net wrote:
Well...there are probably people that prefer for example
* traditional Solaris command set default vs GNU command set default
This is why few Solaris users did accept Indiana.
Shouldn't the same packages Oracle publishes for Solaris 11 work on
OpenIndiana? - would all the dependencies break?
OpenIndiana project should maintain it's own package repository. Solaris 11
packages may occur incompatible - who knows how Oracle will modify the IPS
system? An will they drop
On 09/16/10 11:03 AM, Dmitry G. Kozhinov wrote:
...
OpenIndiana project should maintain it's own package repository. Solaris 11
packages may occur incompatible - who knows how Oracle will modify the IPS
system? An will they drop us IPS source code after Solaris 11 is released?
The source for
Calum Benson calum.ben...@oracle.com wrote:
On 16 Sep 2010, at 14:04, Ashish Nabira wrote:
Lets add those important packages to repositories and make OpenIndiana
popular to newbiesThat's one good way to make it popular .
Anyone who wanted to was always free to contribute such
+-- Shawn Walker wrote (Thu, 16-Sep-2010, 10:50 -0700):
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| The choice to not support sparse zones was a decision made by the zones
| team; not by the packaging team.
Out of curiosity and before I go searching, is the rationale for this
choice publically available in an ARC case or
Shawn Walker shawn.wal...@oracle.com wrote:
On 09/16/10 05:00 AM, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Richard L. Hamiltonrlha...@smart.net wrote:
Well...there are probably people that prefer for example
* traditional Solaris command set default vs GNU command set default
This
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On 9/16/2010 2:03 PM, Dmitry G. Kozhinov wrote:
Shouldn't the same packages Oracle publishes for Solaris 11 work
on OpenIndiana? - would all the dependencies break?
OpenIndiana project should maintain it's own package repository.
Solaris 11
On 09/16/10 11:38 AM, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Calum Bensoncalum.ben...@oracle.com wrote:
On 16 Sep 2010, at 14:04, Ashish Nabira wrote:
Lets add those important packages to repositories and make OpenIndiana popular
to newbiesThat's one good way to make it popular .
On 09/16/10 12:03 PM, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Shawn Walkershawn.wal...@oracle.com wrote:
On 09/16/10 05:00 AM, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Richard L. Hamiltonrlha...@smart.net wrote:
Well...there are probably people that prefer for example
* traditional
On 09/16/10 12:03 PM, see...@cise.ufl.edu wrote:
+-- Shawn Walker wrote (Thu, 16-Sep-2010, 10:50 -0700):
|
| The choice to not support sparse zones was a decision made by the zones
| team; not by the packaging team.
Out of curiosity and before I go searching, is the rationale for this
On 16 Sep 2010, at 19:38, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Calum Benson calum.ben...@oracle.com wrote:
Anyone who wanted to was always free to contribute such packages to
OpenSolaris, via spec-files-extra and later, Source Juicer. Not many people
ever did, and of those, not
Shawn Walker shawn.wal...@oracle.com wrote:
On 09/16/10 12:03 PM, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Shawn Walkershawn.wal...@oracle.com wrote:
On 09/16/10 05:00 AM, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Richard L. Hamiltonrlha...@smart.net wrote:
Well...there are
On 09/16/10 01:14 PM, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Shawn Walkershawn.wal...@oracle.com wrote:
On 09/16/10 12:03 PM, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Shawn Walkershawn.wal...@oracle.com wrote:
On 09/16/10 05:00 AM, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
OTOH I assume it might be possible to either base
Korona on OI and/or adopt the kde4 packages into the
OI repository.
I tried to install our packages to a fresh OI install and it went just fine. A
screenshot here:
http://blog.hajma.cz/2010/09/kde4-on-openindiana.html
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On 09/17/10 07:03 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Shawn Walkershawn.wal...@oracle.com wrote:
On 09/16/10 05:00 AM, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
Richard L. Hamiltonrlha...@smart.net wrote:
Well...there are probably people that prefer for example
* traditional
On 09/17/10 12:00 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Richard L. Hamiltonrlha...@smart.net wrote:
Well...there are probably people that prefer for example
* traditional Solaris command set default vs GNU command set default
This is why few Solaris users did accept Indiana.
* SVR4
+-- Ian Collins wrote (Fri, 17-Sep-2010, 14:28 +1200):
|
| OpenSolaris doesn't have sparse zones, so there nothing to support.
|
| If I remember the threads at the time, they were (rightly) considered
| unnecessary now we use ZFS for zone roots.
I have yet to find those discussions or
Ok, I understand your point. And it is cool with you being first with several
things.
I am only asking if all distros cooperated on one single distro, would it not
be better if there was only one official community distro. It does not matter
to people if it is Schillix or OpenIndiana, as long
On 9/14/10, Orvar Korvar wrote:
I think OpenSolaris community is not really interested in umpteen different
distros, as Linux has. Only one distro is acceptable to most people. I
believe. But of course, people are free to disagree. :o)
I think you're preaching to the choir here. Oracle has
Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote:
I am only asking if all distros cooperated on one single distro, would it not
be better if there was only one official community distro. It does not
matter to people if it is Schillix or OpenIndiana, as long as the distro
attracts many
Am 15.09.2010 08:55, schrieb Gary:
On 9/14/10, Orvar Korvar wrote:
I think OpenSolaris community is not really interested in umpteen different
distros, as Linux has. Only one distro is acceptable to most people. I
believe. But of course, people are free to disagree. :o)
I think you're
Why dont some OpenSolaris distros join forces and
work on OpenIndiana, and at a later point digress?
Schillix, Nexenta, Milax, Korona, etc - wouldnt it be
good if some projects merged with OpenIndiana?
Korona is not a distro (ok, the definition of a distro has changed since the
advent of
Why dont some OpenSolaris distros join forces and work on OpenIndiana, and at a
later point digress?
Schillix, Nexenta, Milax, Korona, etc - wouldnt it be good if some projects
merged with OpenIndiana? Or, are there no interests in merging? If OpenIndiana
got all those resources, it would be
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Orvar Korvar wrote:
Why dont some OpenSolaris distros join forces and work on OpenIndiana, and at
a later point digress?
What you're suggesting is already happening with Illumos which is at
the core of OpenIndiana. Others here may be able to chime in with more
Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote:
Why dont some OpenSolaris distros join forces and work on OpenIndiana, and at
a later point digress?
Schillix, Nexenta, Milax, Korona, etc - wouldnt it be good if some projects
merged with OpenIndiana? Or, are there no interests in
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