Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

Du (Robert Milkowski) schreibst: > On 24/04/2010 16:25, Matthias Pfützner wrote: >> Rule: You need an entitlement to run Solaris/openSolaris in a PRODUCTION >> >> > > I think/hope you are wrong here and you can run Open Solaris in production > on any hardware you want without paying anything .

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

On 25/04/2010 14:43, Robert Milkowski wrote: On 24/04/2010 16:25, Matthias Pfützner wrote: Rule: You need an entitlement to run Solaris/openSolaris in a PRODUCTION I think/hope you are wrong here and you can run Open Solaris in production on any hardware you want without paying anything .

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

On 24/04/2010 16:25, Matthias Pfützner wrote: Rule: You need an entitlement to run Solaris/openSolaris in a PRODUCTION I think/hope you are wrong here and you can run Open Solaris in production on any hardware you want without paying anything . Then while Oracle offers support for Open

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

You (Giovanni Tirloni) wrote: > 2010/4/24 Matthias Pfützner > > So, if you have an entitlement, you then can buy Oracle Premium Support for > > Operating Systems. That Support enables you to get access to patches, > > updates, > > and in the case of OpenSolaris access to the /dev repository. > >

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

Matthias Pfützner wrote: > So, if you have an entitlement, you then can buy Oracle Premium Support for > Operating Systems. That Support enables you to get access to patches, updates, > and in the case of OpenSolaris access to the /dev repository. That should be the /support repository, not /dev.

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

2010/4/24 Matthias Pfützner > > Rule: You need an entitlement to run Solaris/openSolaris in a PRODUCTION > environment. That entitlement is bound to the HW, and sold by the OEM > partners > as part of the license or bundled with the Oracle/Sun hardware. You might > already have such an entitlemen

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

> Paul, > > this is a wrong assumption... Is it? I haven't seen anything official yet that states otherwise. What I see is a) paid support for some OEM servers or Sun hardware b) licence to use Solaris unsupported as a developer c) OpenSolaris. Personally I would like something somewhere between

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

Paul, this is a wrong assumption... OEM's are IBM, HP, and DELL (and Fujitsu for the Sparc side). IBM: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=AN&subtype=CA&htmlfid=897/ENUS208-031&appname=USN HP: http://h20219.www2.hp.com/services/us/en/consolidated/os-sun-solaris.html?jump

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

Hi Well, Sun used to offer commercial support for OpenSolaris, and presumably much of the codebase of OpenSolaris will one day be Solaris 11 (or whatever it gets called). People may or may not want to pay for support for that. If there is no future support for Solaris on non-Sun and non-HP/Dell

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

On 23/04/2010 16:31, Justin Lee Ewing wrote: On 04/23/10 04:23 AM, Robert Milkowski wrote: On 22/04/2010 22:14, Charles Hedrick wrote: For a transition period: Oracle has exercised its right to terminate HP’s Solaris Agreement. HP clients that have purchased Solaris Subscriptions10 for HP

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

> On 04/23/10 04:23 AM, Robert Milkowski wrote: > > On 22/04/2010 22:14, Charles Hedrick wrote: > >> For a transition period: > >> > >> Oracle has exercised its right to terminate HP’s > Solaris Agreement. > >> HP clients that have purchased Solaris > Subscriptions10 for HP > >> ProLiant server

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

On 04/23/10 04:23 AM, Robert Milkowski wrote: On 22/04/2010 22:14, Charles Hedrick wrote: For a transition period: Oracle has exercised its right to terminate HP’s Solaris Agreement. HP clients that have purchased Solaris Subscriptions10 for HP ProLiant servers from HP will continue to rece

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

Svein, I did only try to "correct" the "most negative emotions" coming from your emails, at least from some... Yes, I might have called it FUD, because, publicly we KNOW NOTHING. Therefore any interpretation in any direction can be FUD... OR be used to create such things... This one, I will forfa

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

On 23.04.2010 15:08, Edward Martinez wrote: *SNIP!* > > "Red Hat Enterprise Linux and Windows -- dominating the commercial operating > system market. Proprietary Unix is on the downswing, with many Unix systems > (AIX, HP-UX and Solaris)" > > http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

> If we get 2010 right..it will start appealing to > integrators,resellers and support organisations in > far greater numbers as producitivity per station > increases.At this point in time a new unique low cost > business solution set could be developed. > > Comment on osnews.com > > Oracle Start

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

On 23/04/2010 11:19, Peter Jones wrote: Maybe micheal O'leary of Ryan Air wants to step forward? Unlikely, they seem to be pretty tight with Microsoft: That said, it appears they do run Red Hat and HP-UX on their servers...

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

If we get 2010 right..it will start appealing to integrators,resellers and support organisations in far greater numbers as producitivity per station increases.At this point in time a new unique low cost business solution could quite easily be developed.Maybe micheal O'leary of Ryan Air wants to

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

On 22/04/2010 22:14, Charles Hedrick wrote: For a transition period: Oracle has exercised its right to terminate HP’s Solaris Agreement. HP clients that have purchased Solaris Subscriptions10 for HP ProLiant servers from HP will continue to receive subscription support from Oracle and Techni

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

hedr...@rutgers.edu said: > I'm confused. I tried to find this posting at opensolaris.org, but it doesn't > seem to be there. I'm on the email list, sent this posting out via email. It probably had not trickled through all the layers back to the forum. > I understand that Oracle needs to make

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

On 04/23/10 08:46 AM, Charles Hedrick wrote: Why do you persisting in discussing commercial Solaris issues on a non-commercial, non-Solaris list? Please whinge somewhere else, preferably where readers know the answers. -- Ian. ___ opensolaris-dis

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

For a transition period: Oracle has exercised its right to terminate HP’s Solaris Agreement. HP clients that have purchased Solaris Subscriptions10 for HP ProLiant servers from HP will continue to receive subscription support from Oracle and Technical support from HP for the period of their c

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

I'm confused. I tried to find this posting at opensolaris.org, but it doesn't seem to be there. I understand that Oracle needs to make money from Sun, but I think changing Solaris from an OS that will run on many vendors' hardware to one that is the equivalent of HP-UX changes the game. People

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Edward Martinez wrote: >  I  think since many business are moving away from HP-UX , Solaris ,etc over > to redhat linux and windows, .Oracle, once they finish intergrating SUN,   > will  offer  solaris to the   low-end business  on sun units  to compete > against

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

Again, as also mentioned, you can still buy Solaris + Support via the OEM partners IBM, HP, DELL... Matthias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Marion Hakanson An: hedr...@rutgers.edu Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Gesendet: 22.4.'10, 22:34 hedr...@rutgers.edu said: As for non

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

hedr...@rutgers.edu said: > As for non-Sun hardware, we're being told it is still possible to get support > for Soarlis 10u8 and older, but all problems will have to be duplicated on > Sun hardware. It is not possible to get support for later releases. I spoke with one of our contacts from Oracle

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

> We've been talking with both our Sun salesman and HP. > It appears that support for Sun hardware will be > priced at 12% of net purchase price (i.e. after > discount) for both hardware and software support, and > 8% for just software. There will be only one class or > service, namely high class.

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

Thank you very much hedrick. That is the most solid response I have heard so far. If the state of OpenSolaris support (one that Sun offered previously) was also made clear that would also help. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolari

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

We've been talking with both our Sun salesman and HP. It appears that support for Sun hardware will be priced at 12% of net purchase price (i.e. after discount) for both hardware and software support, and 8% for just software. There will be only one class or service, namely high class. We don't

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

First of all, thank you all for the response. Just hearing some response makes you feel better. Even our sales contacts cannot yet answer clearly on non-Sun H/w support unfortunately. So we are in limbo until then. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

As Glenn said your best bet is to contact your local Sun/Oracle sales person for complete information. In the meantime some of your Oracle Solaris support questions are answered here: http://www.oracle.com/support/collateral/hardware-systems-support-policies.pdf On 04/13/10 11:59, Glenn Lagass

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

* Go OpenSolaris (hhg...@mailinator.com) wrote: > Yes, this is a technical forum, but no one is hearing our pleas and hence we > get desperate. > > Currently if anyone could provide an answer to this > > can solaris be run on non sun h/w with oracle's permission? > > will Oracle Premier Support

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

Yes, this is a technical forum, but no one is hearing our pleas and hence we get desperate. Currently if anyone could provide an answer to this can solaris be run on non sun h/w with oracle's permission? will Oracle Premier Support will cover OpenSolaris support? we would stop! -- This messag

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

On 04/ 2/10 10:31 AM, Alex Viskovatoff wrote: Before anyone says that the place to discuss this is the Oracle forums, with some difficulty, I found [url=http://forums.sun.com/forum.jspa?forumID=844&start=0]the appropriate forum[/url]. But it seems to be much less active than the OpenSolaris fo

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages? (Quit asking these questions here)

On Apr 1, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Alex Viskovatoff wrote: I'm very sorry, I intended but forgot to apologize in advance to technical employees of Sun/Oracle. This post is certainly not directed to you. But, to be fair, this is not a technical list. "Compilers", for example, is a technical list.

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages? (Quit asking these questions here)

I'm very sorry, I intended but forgot to apologize in advance to technical employees of Sun/Oracle. This post is certainly not directed to you. But, to be fair, this is not a technical list. "Compilers", for example, is a technical list. This, in contrast, is "OpenSolaris General Discussion. All

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages? (Quit asking these questions here)

Look, this is a TECHNICAL list. We (those of us still working at Oracle) can't answer these questions. Literally. By that I mean we're technical folks, either directly involved in coding, or advanced users. And that applies to a large number of non-Oracle folks on this list, too. You want

[osol-discuss] Why are prices for Solaris 10 OS support not on Oracles Web pages?

Before anyone says that the place to discuss this is the Oracle forums, with some difficulty, I found [url=http://forums.sun.com/forum.jspa?forumID=844&start=0]the appropriate forum[/url]. But it seems to be much less active than the OpenSolaris forums. There is [url=http://forums.sun.com/threa