it appears the so called writers,reporters from many well respected news
sites are actually in a way wishing the demise of opensolaris. almost every
article written on opensolaris nowadays are about how it's
finished,doomed,etc. I think if this keeps up, it will actually discourage
It's called Schadenfreude, a not uncommon human emotion, and sensationalism.
Headlines about "demise" are going to get more hits than articles about the
delay of a release due to showstopper bugs.
I think things will calm down once 2010.1H gets released. It will be
interesting to see how much a
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez wrote:
> it appears the so called writers,reporters from many well respected news
> sites are actually in a way wishing the demise of opensolaris. almost
> every article written on opensolaris nowadays are about how it's
> finished,doome
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Martin Bochnig wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez
> wrote:
> > it appears the so called writers,reporters from many well respected
> news sites are actually in a way wishing the demise of opensolaris.
> almost every article written
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:49 AM, Stephen Bunn wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Martin Bochnig wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez
>> wrote:
>> > it appears the so called writers,reporters from many well respected
>> > news sites are actually in a way wish
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote:
>
>
>
Sorry. My reply was directed twoard Edward.
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You (Stephen Bunn) wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Martin Bochnig wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez
> > wrote:
> > > it appears the so called writers,reporters from many well respected
> > news sites are actually in a way wishing the demise of opensol
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 09:44 +0200, Matthias Pfützner wrote:
> You (Stephen Bunn) wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Martin Bochnig wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez
> > > wrote:
> > > > it appears the so called writers,reporters from many well respect
You (Martin Bochnig) wrote:
> I responded to Edward Martinez, exactly because I did not agree with
> him in that new context.
> Of course partially he is right. But it is Oracle(Management´s) very
> very own fault. The put gazoline into that fire!
> By just doing n o t h i n g.
> Didn´t I state th
You (Martin Bochnig) wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez
> wrote:
> > it appears the so called writers,reporters from many well respected news
> > sites are actually in a way wishing the demise of opensolaris. almost
> > every article written on opensolaris nowaday
Matthias Pfützner wrote:
> You can try to blame Oracle for not calling it alive, but look:
>
> http://c0t0d0s0.org/archives/6510-Future-of-OpenSolaris.html
>
> Is this proof of an engagement TOWARDS OpenSolaris?
Being interested in supporting OSS and not giving information are two
contr
>
> So, folks, again, GET USED TO the new communication,
> and DO NEVER EVER draw
> WRONG conclusions!
>
> It's so easy!
Normally I would agree, but I know for a fact that this lack of communication
about a way forward with Sun products is driving businesses away. Every
businesses that I talk
2010/4/21 Matthias Pfützner :
> You (Martin Bochnig) wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez
>> wrote:
>> > it appears the so called writers,reporters from many well respected
>> > news sites are actually in a way wishing the demise of opensolaris.
>> > almost every a
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Alexander Eremin wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 09:44 +0200, Matthias Pfützner wrote:
>> You (Stephen Bunn) wrote:
>> > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Martin Bochnig wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > it
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 15:28 +0300, Martin Bochnig wrote:
> Hello. What? You prefer the head_into_the_sand-approach???
>
> If +1 in that manner,
> then the same as response:
>
>
>
> Do you get it or don´t you
> Oracle´s DB is pretty much a monopoly. *There* they can do whatever
> they want,
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Mike DeMarco wrote:
>>
>> So, folks, again, GET USED TO the new communication,
>> and DO NEVER EVER draw
>> WRONG conclusions!
>>
>> It's so easy!
>
> Normally I would agree, but I know for a fact that this lack of communication
> about a way forward with Sun prod
Fully agree that many variables changed since Oracle got Sun. As I posted on
solarisx86 yahoo
mailing list we need to wait a bit longer for all these things to be cleared
but as well
Oracle should commit and dont let space for confusion and mis-interpretations
in a proper time frame window ;)
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Alexander Eremin wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 15:28 +0300, Martin Bochnig wrote:
>> Hello. What? You prefer the head_into_the_sand-approach???
>>
>> If +1 in that manner,
>> then the same as response:
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you get it or don´t you
>> Oracle´s DB is p
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Stefan Parvu wrote:
> Fully agree that many variables changed since Oracle got Sun. As I posted on
> solarisx86 yahoo
> mailing list we need to wait a bit longer for all these things to be cleared
> but as well
> Oracle should commit and dont let space for confus
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Stefan Parvu wrote:
>> But this will take some time.
>
>
> FQ4' 2018 would be a good quarter for a first announcement and (maybe)
> meeting.
> What do you folks think?
Ouch, I disclosed the date.
Friends:
Mike
You (Mike DeMarco) wrote:
> >
> > So, folks, again, GET USED TO the new communication,
> > and DO NEVER EVER draw
> > WRONG conclusions!
> >
> > It's so easy!
>
> Normally I would agree, but I know for a fact that this lack of communication
> about a way forward with Sun products is drivi
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:44:27 +0200
Matthias Pfützner wrote:
>
> Folks, also again:
>
> CALM DOWN!
>
> As I stated now MULTIPLE TIMES. Times are changing, GET USED TO IT!
> Oracle is a company (and you can proff it by yourself, if you LOOK
> BACK at Oracle's history of roadmaps and the likes), t
You (Stephen Bunn) wrote:
> Second.. and to be frank; This is what upsets most of us that are
> upset. The arrogance in your (and Oracle's) attitude.
I'm not arrogant. Oracle might be, can't judge...
> You seem to be
> operating under the assumption that Open/Solaris is the only game in
> town a
On 21.04.2010 14:15, Mike DeMarco wrote:
>>
>> So, folks, again, GET USED TO the new communication,
>> and DO NEVER EVER draw
>> WRONG conclusions!
>>
>> It's so easy!
>
> Normally I would agree, but I know for a fact that this lack of communication
> about a way forward with Sun products is driv
Martin Bochnig wrote:
> As far as I am aware, until now Oracle did not even talk to the OGB.
I believe the OGB still has an open offer to meet with Oracle representatives
once the new OGB manages to pick a meeting time.
Unfortunately, we elected an OGB for which picking a good meeting time will
b
Martin,
This is a fundamental misstatement of Oracle's position as a software
vendor prior to acquiring Sun. Oracle faces considerable competition
from sources such as MS SQL Server and DB2. It has nothing like a
monopoly over the RDBMS market. To the extent that it does have a
position a
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Bayard Bell
wrote:
> Martin,
>
> This is a fundamental misstatement of Oracle's position as a software vendor
> prior to acquiring Sun. Oracle faces considerable competition from sources
> such as MS SQL Server and DB2. It has nothing like a monopoly over the RDBM
>
>
> CALM DOWN!
>
> As I stated now MULTIPLE TIMES. Times are changing,
> GET USED TO IT! Oracle is
> a company (and you can proff it by yourself, if you
> LOOK BACK at Oracle's
> history of roadmaps and the likes), that ONLY
> PUBLISHES roadmaps, once the
> INKS ARE DRY!
>
> Do you KNOW anythi
eam1 wrote:
"it appears the so called writers,reporters from many well respected news sites
are ..."
My conclusion is to let Oracle do the selling. I'm not gonna own their results,
so I'm unconcerned.
Tim
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