Re: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC

2006-07-28 Thread Martin Bochnig
Original-Message Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:45:31 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Bochnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC But why is SUNW so uninterested??? Where is your

Re: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC

2006-07-28 Thread James Carlson
Martin Bochnig writes: Are you afraid of publically being expected to opensource all your (mostly eol'ed) gfx drivers? If by afraid you mean know that we'll be doing something illegal, then perhaps that's a partly reasonable interpretation. I think you're at least underestimating the amount

Re: Re: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC

2006-07-28 Thread Martin Bochnig
It's not just blind fear, though, nor is it malice. Looking at the staggering amount of code we've been able to release so far, I'm a bit baffled how anyone could even begin to think that we're holding back out of spite. -- James Carlson, KISS Network[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC

2006-07-28 Thread James Carlson
Martin Bochnig writes: I would just love being explicitly allowed to integrate and redistribute a few closed things Since you have a fairly specific hit-list of items you need, how about filing bugs against each requesting an open version? That might be a more productive approach than

Re: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC

2006-07-28 Thread Martin Bochnig
Original-Message Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:54:17 -0700 From: Jan Setje-Eilers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Bochnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC p.s.: Is SUNW interested in GRUB2

Re: Re: Re: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC

2006-07-28 Thread Martin Bochnig
Since you have a fairly specific hit-list of items you need, how about filing bugs against each requesting an open version? That might be a more productive approach than complaining here. -- James Carlson Strange, but okay. Be sure that I will do that asap (not now). -- Martin

Re: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC

2006-07-28 Thread Rich Teer
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Martin Bochnig wrote: Is it also a matter of resources that you don't allow (even non-commercial) distributors to redistribute a closed binary for /dev/fb for the older framebuffers developed by SUNW themselves (probably no 3rd party NDA's affected)? And what is with the

Re: Re: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC

2006-07-28 Thread Martin Bochnig
Dunno about the frame buffers, but perhaps libC contains 3rd party IP, and Sun's license to use it prohibits redistribution by other parties? I believe that's one of the reasons why you and I are not allowed to redistribute the Solaris ISOs we can download for free from Sun's web site: Sun

Re: Re: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC

2006-07-28 Thread Rich Teer
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Martin Bochnig wrote: okay. If (and only if) 3rd parties are involved into the libC* thing, I _would_ understand it. Would a statement by a Sun employee (provided, of course, thet such a license doesn't prohibit Sun from doing so) clarifying the situation help? What I

Re: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC

2006-07-28 Thread David Korn
cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC I don't want to get involved in political arguments so I will state my view one once. It looks as if Casper Dik and Martin Schaffstall

Re: Re: Re: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC

2006-07-28 Thread Martin Bochnig
Would a statement by a Sun employee (provided, of course, thet such a license doesn't prohibit Sun from doing so) clarifying the situation help? Yes. What I still would not understand - however - is, why the Distros-JDK (on which SUNW has made so much noise about, back in May'06) has

Really ksh88 vs. ksh93 _/_ Re: Re: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC

2006-07-28 Thread Martin Bochnig
@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC I

Re: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC

2006-07-27 Thread Martin Bochnig
Original-Message Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:13:15 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Korn Shell 93 integration/migration project discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC On 7/27

Re: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal : Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC

2006-07-27 Thread Martin Bochnig
Martin Bochnig wrote: Are you afraid of publically being expected to opensource all your (mostly eol'ed) gfx drivers? Or is it that you yourself don't believe in sparc anymore. Sun believes in SPARC servers such as the Sun Fire T1000/T2000, but there isn't as much work going on in SPARC