Hello all,
Does anyone know how I can control the value of the near clip plane for the
rendering of impostors please ? I've noticed that the camera will clip them
from 1m away, leaving holes in it, but sometimes the camera is restricted
to even closer than that, so I need to be able to render
Hi all,
I've been looking and doing trial-and-error for hours, and still haven't
found out how to do this :
I'd like to add a way to the RLV to actually not render the diffuse
textures in world (but still render them on the avatars and their
attachments, and render normal and specular maps
- physics(?) dipslay. It
removes all in-world textures and shows physics as colors on the objects.
I am sure you can find something interesting in that code.
--Chalice Yao
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Marine Kelley marinekel...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi all,
I've been looking and doing
Oh, right, I didn't think of looking into the Highlight Transparent
feature, thanks !
On 12 June 2014 16:11, Marine Kelley marinekel...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes I have been looking into them already, but they at best display even
more geometry on top of what's already rendered. I would like
That did the trick ! I replaced tex in that method by
LLViewerFetchedTexture::sDefaultImagep, and the whole world is untextured
(although colored, which I will fix too). Now I just have to find out how
to differentiate between world surfaces and attachment surfaces, and it
will work perfectly.
Henri has been putting a considerable number of hours over several
years into fixing bugs and making improvements, including into other
people's viewers !
If what he says is true (and I have no doubt that it is since it is
easy to verify), this kind of thing is totally unacceptable. TPV
What Henri said. Avatar height offset is a variable that currently
changes OFTEN, that's even the reason why it was added as a RLV
command, so that it could be changed automatically without annoying
the user too much.
If this is now a shape slider, and viewer devs like me have to deal
with
Confirmed, voted and watched for both. That would explain the strange
behaviors I have been observing on the latest build the last few days.
Thanks for creating these tickets.
On 18/08/2012, Lance Corrimal lance.corri...@eregion.de wrote:
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-29531
Hi all,
For a month now, any viewer built from the v-d repository has that odd
bug back :
When you focus your camera inside a hollowed-out prim and you move the
camera itself inside it as well, it makes you zoom in instead, making
it very difficult to focus on anything. This bug had been fixed a
Seconded !!
On 08/08/2012, Henri Beauchamp sl...@free.fr wrote:
On Tue, 07 Aug 2012 16:45:03 -0700, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote:
On 2012-08-07 16:09 , Angel Dreams wrote:
its something i saw i never seen that package before is it new or
something?
It is the wrapper around the Havok
Thanks for the precisions. I am using v178, ported on to Dolphin and
then to my RLV by Lance... I don't know how it works at all,
personally. All I know is that the changeset I pointed is the culprit
for all the errors I get (well, I got only MAV_BLOCK_MISSING so far).
It's deterministic : with
Hello all,
Having pulled the latest changesets from v-d to my viewer lately, I
observed that the resulting build would not be able to upload mesh
anymore, ending up with a MAV_BLOCK_MISSING message every time (no
matter what I do, even following the several options depicted in
.
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boun...@lists.secondlife.com] On Behalf Of Marine Kelley
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 11:54 AM
To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Subject: [opensource-dev] Need help about EXT-1285
Hi all ! I
The Shadok is strong in this one...
On 04/10/2011, Henri Beauchamp sl...@free.fr wrote:
On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 12:23:51 +0200, Thickbrick Sleaford wrote:
On Tuesday 04 October 2011 09:31:00 Lance Corrimal wrote:
hi,
I'm pretty sure noone at LL is interested in the minidumps from my
TPV, so
On 31/08/2011, Robert Martin robertl...@gmail.com wrote:
2 are there any simple tools to make models (Blender does not qualify).
Why doesn't Blender qualify ?
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On 01/09/2011, Lance Corrimal lance.corri...@eregion.de wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 1. September 2011 schrieb Marine Kelley:
On 31/08/2011, Robert Martin robertl...@gmail.com wrote:
2 are there any simple tools to make models (Blender does not
qualify).
Why doesn't Blender qualify ?
try
Hi all,
So I have tried to upload a mesh on a viewer built from v-d rev 20205
(the latest I could find, with the llconvexdecomposition fix).
I click on Build Upload Model..., I get the dialog to select a
.dae file, when I select it I get the model upload window, so far so
good.
But when I
:
On 2011-08-24 14:47, Marine Kelley wrote:
So I have tried to upload a mesh on a viewer built from v-d rev 20205
(the latest I could find, with the llconvexdecomposition fix).
[...]
Is there something I need to do in my viewer for it to work ? Is it a
matter of channel ? Am I missing
Careful, it could be a phishing attempt. Do NOT click on any of the
links inside this email (unless you're certain it comes from Linden
Lab, but then again emails can be spoofed).
On 16/08/2011, mala...@tamzap.com mala...@tamzap.com wrote:
exactly which is why this message is so disturbing.
I crash a lot on 2.8.0, at least twice a day. It is usually a sudden
crash to desktop, and from the log it looks like the viewer goes short
on memory. It happens more often with deferred rendering on, but it is
always random, I could never link it to any particular action I take.
My computer has
Hi all,
When trying to build rev 20010 (0fd2a1181a96) of viewer-development, I
stumbled across a problem with llconvexdecomposition : autobuild.xml
links it to http://s3-proxy.lindenlab.com/private-builds-secondlife-com
(which is unreachable for anyone outside LL), refusing to download it
and
the hash to match the one for the new
file.
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To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Subject
and see if that helps with the build as there is
a couple of missing functions in the stub. Now the lib is not functional but
it does have the missing functions.
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Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 7:41 AM
To: WolfPup
Thanks... That's not what I observe though, only the invisiprim goes
black, obscuring the prims inside or behind it, but not the entire
linkset
On 12/07/2011, Ardy Lay ardy...@gmail.com wrote:
Shining SH-2048 Invisiprims that are members of an attached linkset are
making the entire linkset
Hi all,
I was trying to adapt the RLV to the latest revision of
viewer-development, and was quite satisfied with the results :
- Far fewer crashes as opposed to 2.7.2 when the deferred renderer is activated
- The /me issue in chat when the chat history is hidden is resolved too
However, I am
I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that everytime you increase your
draw distance, your viewer requests all the prims to rez from the
sim... Which means a lot more network traffic if it changes all the
time (which would be the case if it were automatic).
Besides I like to keep control over my draw
How about a pair of round glasses in orthographic view, seen from a
quarter profile ?
Something like this (forgive the lack of alignment on non-fixed fonts) :
/ /
O-O
This icon is not used anywhere and has no special meaning, if you put
them on you see better that if you remove them (if
Whoops once again I replied to Jonathan only instead of the whole
list. Sorry about that. Here is what I tried to answer :
It should be copiable and pastable ! The debug console is nigh useless
without these two features.
On 11/06/2011, Jonathan Welch jhwe...@gmail.com wrote:
If you use the
Guess we learn everyday. Thanks for that :)
On 11/06/2011, Jonathan Welch jhwe...@gmail.com wrote:
The debug setting showconsoleWindow gives you a free-standing window
with the same information scrolling by in it.
In Windows I get a dos-type window, so copying and pasting is not as
easy as
environment.
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boun...@lists.secondlife.com] On Behalf Of Marine Kelley
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 6:11 PM
To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Subject: [opensource-dev] Fmod with Autobuild
Hello all,
Yes, this is probably another stupid question... I have a working
viewer 2.6.6 with all my patches installed, everything is working
right. But since I had to run autobuild with the DINSTALL_PROPRIETARY
flag set to FALSE (it wouldn't work otherwise), there is no Fmod,
hence no sound.
Hello all,
This is probably a silly question, but is it possible to use autobuild
with VS2005 ? What used to work very well for me with
VS2005+develop.py now fails miserably on VCExpress2010+autobuild. Does
this question even make sense ? Or am I condemned to switch to VS2010
that I really
Thanks... this convinces me to go with VCE2010 (getting over the
initial gripe I have about it, since it is the only sensible option I
have to go ahead anyway).
Right now it builds to the end, but it fails at the very last step
with this error :
60 Looking for existing VisualStudio instance...
Aha ! Thanks much Ima, I'll play a little with a clone of your
repository tomorrow, maybe it will lead me to a full working build
this time :)
On 18/04/2011, Ima Mechanique ima.mechani...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
Thanks... this convinces me to go with VCE2010 (getting over the
initial gripe I
and replace the existiing one. Or, you can use the one I have
here:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7833186/VSTool.exe
Nicky
From: Marine Kelley marinekel...@gmail.com
To: Ima Mechanique ima.mechani...@blueyonder.co.uk
Cc: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Sent
What I do is open my settings.xml file and search what I want with a
text editor, it works.
On 02/01/2011, Ricky kf6...@gmail.com wrote:
I was just about to create a JIRA entry for the idea of making things
easier to find in the Debug Settings menu, when I found an existant
JIRA on the
...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you Jonathan and Marine. These workarounds are good, and I will
tap into them. Hopefully an in-client solution isn't too far into the
future! :)
Ricky
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Marine Kelley marinekel...@gmail.com
wrote:
What I do is open my settings.xml
Hello all,
I have just filed a JIRA (VWR-23459) about a random crash that would
occur in the rendering pipeline, when suddenly it struck me : I
remember that years ago the viewer would crash when writing to llerrs,
and that it was voluntary (don't ask me why).
Is it still the case ? In this
.
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 05:42, Marine Kelley marinekel...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello all,
I have just filed a JIRA (VWR-23459) about a random crash that would
occur in the rendering pipeline, when suddenly it struck me : I
remember that years ago the viewer would crash when writing to llerrs
/browse/VWR-24359
(There was a typo in the original post; two digits were transposed.)
Sheet Spotter
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Kelley
Sent: December 31, 2010 4:43 AM
Thank you Esbee for sharing it with us !
I have two remarks/wishes :
1 : Can we have our regular text chat logs back please ? Not replacing the
new llsd ones, but just feeding TWO chat logs and TWO IM logs (per avatar)
at the same time ? That would greatly help those who like to skim through
On 30 September 2010 09:42, Erin Mallory angel_of_crim...@hotmail.comwrote:
IF i am using v2, and i crash with unanswered inventory offers I expect
the viewer to automatically accept them. someone on the list said the system
does, but EVERY time i crahs and i ahd inventory offers from an
On 28 September 2010 11:20, Ann Otoole missannoto...@yahoo.com wrote:
this isn't the place for that and LL needs to weigh in on things like this.
It isn't the only one and one person LL openly promotes also sells over
scripted shoes.
If we are going after one we have to go after the ones LL
Could be... I have not set foot there for almost a year now. lol
On 28 September 2010 12:44, Lance Corrimal lance.corri...@eregion.dewrote:
Am Dienstag, 28. September 2010, 11:27:22 schrieb Marine Kelley:
On 28 September 2010 11:20, Ann Otoole missannoto...@yahoo.com wrote:
this isn't
Best wishes Tofu and Aimee, if you survived LL you can survive anything. So
you'll be ok ! It's sad to see two good devs leave though.
On 28 September 2010 21:45, Erin Mallory angel_of_crim...@hotmail.comwrote:
They aren't leaving by choice. LL fired all the UK based lindens. I won't
go
On 25 September 2010 19:59, Robert Exile In Paradise Murphey
ex...@weylan-yutani.com wrote:
Sum up: RLV makes LL-viewer-compatible virtual worlds much, much
more usable for community game development by giving the region
owners control over default viewer features that hurt many parts of
On 26 September 2010 00:05, Robert Martin robertl...@gmail.com wrote:
actually if the RLV api was renamed and expanded a bit it could be
used as a semi-autonomous bot api
Yes, there are bots that let you dress and undress them through script,
using that API. They are used by clothes merchants
Hello all,
For those who are interested, here is a trivial fix (but not a trivial hunt)
to a bug on the world map, that I am surprised nobody has ever written a
JIRA on, because it has been there since v2.0 beta.
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23105
Marine
Brandon I am sooo waiting for your patch impatiently !
On 17 September 2010 21:38, Brandon Husbands xot...@gmail.com wrote:
I am actually about finished with my mod for v2.
It takes the sidebar.cpp file and only that file leaves all public method
calls in.
But its rewritten to be a floater
On 17 September 2010 23:02, Zi Ree tinacl...@gmx.de wrote:
Am Freitag 17 September 2010 22:51:38 schrieb Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence):
Thus restoring 1x functionality. All thats left to do is add the
buttons back for them and menu choices.
From an end user point of view, how does that
On 6 September 2010 22:23, Boroondas Gupte slli...@boroon.dasgupta.chwrote:
I guess you refer to the screenshot attached to the jira issue? Note the
date when that one was added, Oct. 15, 20*09*. Also note the artwork and
color scheme. I guess that was from an early development version of
At least the land and inventory are not gone, automatically downgrading to
basic would make the lands be abandoned... way to even more drama. To me the
user should not even be locked out of the grid, but I understand that there
are technical difficulties to making a premium be considered as basic
Actually it works, but I believe the RenderUseFBO and RenderDeferred debug
settings must be set right (both FALSE), before seeing some antialiasing.
I'm not really sure how I did it but I did see some AA on the latest 2.x
viewers.
On 27 August 2010 08:35, Kadah Coba kadah.c...@gmail.com wrote:
option instead of the add option. If this is not working as I've
described, then let us know as we have some bugs to fix :)
Let me know if this clarifies things.
-Nyx
Marine Kelley wrote:
Hello all,
I am currently working at integrating the RLV code into the latest
2.1.2 viewer
I'd like to chime in and say that this happens to me often as well.
Attachments are worn twice on relog, approx. once a day. Since the
attachments I'm wearing usually say things with llOwnerSay and I see them
say their messages twice, I do know this is not only a viewer-side problem.
I have never
Hello all,
Pardon my naive question, but this is the first time I use TortoiseHg, and
I'm having weird results here. My Cygwin is too old to update via
cygwin-setup, I have to reinstall it completely, and I don't want to do
that. So I'm falling back to TortoiseHg instead. And here is my problem :
.
Thanks !
On 25 August 2010 19:12, Brian McGroarty s...@lindenlab.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Marine Kelley marinekel...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello all,
Pardon my naive question, but this is the first time I use TortoiseHg, and
I'm having weird results here. My Cygwin is too old
Please be careful not to screw up debug settings that must NOT be changed.
Some are capital for the viewer to function normally, and would completely
shut out users who don't know how to change them back offline, and to what.
It would be easy to make a gesture that completely messes up your debug
The damage done to the reputation of a well known resident can be
immeasurable. It would be irresponsible of LL to let someone impersonate
someone else without giving any way to let the other people around to see
CLEARLY the difference between a user name and a display name. No amount of
ToS
.
On 20 August 2010 12:24, Stickman stick...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Marine Kelley marinekel...@gmail.com
wrote:
damage is done, it is too late. It is CAPITAL that a display name CANNOT
be
mistaken with a user name, no matter how clever the owner of the display
name
That would be awesome. I know there are reasons behind the removal of the
pie menu and its replacement by a well known list menu, but PLEASE I am so
much more productive and less frustrated with the old pie menu ! Muscle
memory and size of the clickable areas and all that. Simply put with the
list
Well it must be obvious for any user that anyone they see or hear or receive
an IM from is using either a user name or a display name. And by obvious I
mean validated by the server during the transaction, not forged by
another viewer which can pretend to use any user name. In other words, any
Suggestions:
- make notifications (inventory offers, group notices) stay on screen like
they used to be
I'm sure there is a debug setting or an XML option to do that, I'll look
when I have time. But they would pile up pretty quickly, unlike 1.x the
notification do not hide each other (which
Eep ! I hope it won't bring its own share of permission defects ! This is
VERY sensitive matter that is being fiddled with here !
On 17 August 2010 16:31, Boroondas Gupte slli...@boroon.dasgupta.ch wrote:
[I'm cross posting this to several mailing lists to solicit feedback. To
avoid clutter,
?
bye,
LC
On Monday 16 August 2010 16:13:49 Marine Kelley wrote:
I think that's precisely why LL wanted to keep control of this feature
server side by deciding how many objects can be worn (possibly according
to
the script memory limits to come), instead of going the avatar_lad.txt
fake
lol I knew it ! This text IS actually a Markov chain !
That or it is aimed at a subset of the members of this list who actually
know the encryption key to extract the hidden message. But to the rest of
us, this is just nonsense.
On 7 August 2010 17:34, Dzonatas Sol dzona...@gmail.com wrote:
I check out the code of the viewer from svn and not hg... Does that make me
a kid now ?
On 7 August 2010 22:42, Dzonatas Sol dzona...@gmail.com wrote:
Dzonatas Sol wrote:
They've had an adult grid that is suppose to be fast, easy,... and fun.
They've had an teen grid that is suppose to
Hi Suezanne, you may want to look at the method LLPanelLogin::setFields() in
newview/llpanellogin.cpp
Marine
On 3 August 2010 06:31, SuezanneC Baskerville sueza...@gmail.com wrote:
Where is the remembered username stored, where is read and written in the
source code, and how do you make it
Hi all,
As some of you now, my usual method of releasing a RLV is to only release
the exe and its settings.xml file, and to instruct the user to copy them
both into the SL folder and into its app_settings folder respectively. This
allows for light downloads and uploads (it would take me hours to
...
Am Samstag 26 Juni 2010 schrieb Nicky Perian:
I built viewer-external on 6/19. Used Vista 32 and VC++Express
2005. Took 5 builds. Logs and steps taken are here. This was all
the way to a setup.exe.
From: Marine Kelley marinekel...@gmail.com
, Marine Kelley marinekel...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello,
I am having the following link error when trying to compile the llcommon
project on Viewer 2.1 beta extracted from viewer-external :
1-- Build started: Project: llcommon, Configuration: Release Win32
--
1Linking...
1 Creating library
Hello,
I am having the following link error when trying to compile the llcommon
project on Viewer 2.1 beta extracted from viewer-external :
1-- Build started: Project: llcommon, Configuration: Release Win32
--
1Linking...
1 Creating library
Hello all,
I have just filed a JIRA under Viewer 2.0.1 (although it shows for 2.0.0 as
well) at https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-19425
In short, when you wear a new skin and a new hair at the same time (by
selecting both and pressing Wear), one of them is worn then removed, leaving
you
. Not that this is my intent in any way, but I'm
just saying that it would cause damage on both parts if such a thing
happened. So I am confident.
On 28 April 2010 20:40, Henri Beauchamp sl...@free.fr wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:02:24 +0200, Marine Kelley wrote:
Hi, I'd like to thank whoever changed
Thanks for opening this JIRA, Stickman. Voted.
On 27 April 2010 03:04, Stickman stick...@gmail.com wrote:
My guess is that this is a simple oversight when porting over to
viewer 2.0 ui infrastructure.
If I had more time, I'd make it my crusade to document and request the
re-addition of
Hello all,
As I was testing the RLV on viewer 2.0, I realized that the Spare time
entry in the sim console was gone, it used to be right under Script time
and indicated how healthy the sim was, and now there is no easy way to know
anymore. Has it been removed intentionally, or by mistake ? Is it
Thank you Joe
I'd like to chime in and bring my own concerns since I won't make it to the
meeting. My primary concern is about the Viewer Directory and here are my
questions :
- Will registering a TPV to the Viewer Directory become mandatory one day ?
If so, how can we be absolutely certain that
This is a sad day. I remember the times when you were indeed the most
prolific contributor, when your own third-party viewer was the toast of SL,
and the SL viewer has benefited greatly from your work. I think everyone can
thank you for that (and everyone has !).
And I'd like to thank you for
Thank you for the heads up Morgaine. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if
the no warranty clause vanishes from the source code, then does that
mean that LL guarantees that the code of the original viewer is bug-
free ? We can't guarantee it as open source programmers if the
original devs don't
could in theory sue you.
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Marine Kelley
marinekel...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for the heads up Morgaine. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if
the no warranty clause vanishes from the source code, then does
that
mean that LL guarantees that the code
Well sure, if I stated that I agree to be responsible for whatever
defect, past present and future, the SL viewer may introduce, but I'm
not crazy, and I doubt anybody else would be either. This is called an
abusive clause and that does not stand in court. Therefore, I do not
see the no
Naturally but do they apply to the developer ? They should void only
for the original dev who implemented the feature intentionally, if
any. Keeping in mind that the servers are as responsible to protect
the data add the viewers are responsible to not attack them. To me
developers (paid by
Well it seems that we can choose not to publish our RL identity to the open.
I too wonder why LL can't link our RL data with our avatars themselves,
since most (if not all) of us are Premium members or have been in the past.
There is certainly a very good internal reason that they cannot disclose,
Are you outright saying on the sldev mailing list, in the face of LL,
that you are wanting to work at stealing enough content to force
them to open the whole system ?
And you still wonder why your ideas are met with hostility ?
You should stop leeching other people's stuff and start your own
at LL impacts me and
the people I work with/for.
Marine
On 14 March 2010 20:09, Kent Quirk (Q Linden) q...@lindenlab.com wrote:
On Mar 14, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Marine Kelley wrote:
However it is true that LL has delivered a bad message recently, by
publishing the TPV and the closed-source SL 2.0
You are kidding here, right ?
On 14 March 2010 23:27, New Hax newh...@gmail.com wrote:
there shouldn't be. if SL is to be open, and really open source, then
the scripts on it should be GPL as well. But it's different because
scripts CAN be protected FOR NOW but blobs of binary and graphics ,
:
No im not kidding, whats going to stop people from taking your
scripts, when you can hop from one grid to another? Interoperability?
The sim owner can take your scripts. For now scripts are protected
because Linden Labs owns the code.
On 3/14/10, Marine Kelley marinekel...@gmail.com wrote
Don't forget to reply to all, everyone is getting only part of the
conversation when you reply to me only.
We're not talking about the same thing at all anyway. We were talking about
content theft issues, which has nothing to do with the viewer. It has
nothing to do with this mailing list even.
Devnull Linden. Haha. That's a good one :D
(Note : this message holds no value added and presents a mild time-
wasting factor. Read at your own risks)
On 10 mars 2010, at 15:30, Maggie Leber (sl: Maggie Darwin)
mag...@matrisync.com
wrote:
I'd be more interested in the answer to Ann's
Code is proprietary unless stated otherwise by the maker. Abandoned code
does not mean public domain code, this would be a violation of copyright to
release protected source code to the public without the agreement of the
owner first. Whether they are still active in SL or not does not matter.
If LL makes the agent ID's public, people will soon ban
*ALL* minor TPV's (being all of them, except maybe emerald,
because that has already a pretty large userbase) just in case.
Ahem ! Define minor TPV please.
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Some people have no problem with showing their private fetishes to the
world, other people like me do. I have a family, a job, and friends. I have
plenty things to hide, my private life is nobody's business, and anybody who
attempts to pry it open will only meet hostility.
On 28 February 2010
I don't know much about it, but what about the data that most of us already
entered when signing up to SL ? LL should have these data stored somewhere,
why do we have to enter them all again ? If the data to be entered to sign
in to the viewer directory is not linked to it, what gives LL the
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