Re: [openssl-dev] Speck Cipher Integration with OpenSSL

2018-01-09 Thread Hanno Böck
n "we want a lightweight cipher and NSA gave us one". If there is serious demand for more lightweight ciphers in TLS I'd expect some kind of open and transparent competition like it happened with AES or SHA3 - or at least some open discussion in CFRG. However I'm not convinced t

Re: [openssl-dev] Speck Cipher Integration with OpenSSL

2018-01-05 Thread Hanno Böck
hat I'd find more concerning is that from what I observed there hasn't been a lot of research about speck. -- Hanno Böck https://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: FE73757FA60E4E21B937579FA5880072BBB51E42 -- openssl-dev mailing list To unsubscribe: https://mta.openssl.org/mailman/listinfo/openssl-dev

[openssl-dev] Potential timing problems in OpenSSL RSA implementation

2017-12-14 Thread Hanno Böck
starts with 8 leading zero bits, there'll be a timing signal in BN_bn2bin. BoringSSL solves <https://boringssl.googlesource.com/boringssl/+/296a61d6007688a1472798879b81517920e35dff/crypto/fipsmodule/bn/bytes.c#208> the latter problem, but not the former. [1] https://robotattack.org/ --

Re: [openssl-dev] frequency and size of heartbeat requests

2017-12-06 Thread Hanno Böck
On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 19:21:50 + "Salz, Rich via openssl-dev" wrote: > There is never any reason to use this in TCP-based TLS; > that was an OpenSSL bug that enabled it there. I opened an issue for this bug, so it can be fixed: https://github.com/openssl/openssl/issues/4856

Re: [openssl-dev] frequency and size of heartbeat requests

2017-12-05 Thread Hanno Böck
es the heartbeat extension by default in every clienthello it sends. In the whole Heartbleed aftermath nobody was ever able to tell me where TLS Heartbeats are used. It's a feature in order to have a feature. -- Hanno Böck https://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hb

Re: [openssl-dev] Can I haz TLS 1.3 ?

2017-10-03 Thread Hanno Böck
Cloudflare etc.) speak up and say that in the future they'll boycott vendors that deploy such Internet-breaking devices. -- Hanno Böck https://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: FE73757FA60E4E21B937579FA5880072BBB51E42 -- openssl-dev mailing list To unsubscribe: https://mta.openssl.org/mailman/listinfo/openssl-dev

Re: [openssl-dev] Bug reports and patches for OpenSSL

2017-02-05 Thread Hanno Böck
ibraries and applications that use them. I can't answer on how to best report those bugs, but: That sounds like interesting research. Will you make the tool and the corresponding scientific publication public? -- Hanno Böck https://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha

[openssl-dev] dead links in openssl docs

2016-05-30 Thread Hanno Böck
rated. -- Hanno Böck https://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgphcvkUwXBql.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- openssl-dev mailing list To unsubscribe: https://mta.openssl.org/mailman/listinfo/openssl-dev

[openssl-dev] website inconsistent between start page and /source - beta1 vs pre4

2016-03-19 Thread Hanno Böck
Hi, The latest news on the openssl start page is 16-Mar-2016Beta 1 of OpenSSL 1.1.0 is now available: please download and test it However the latest download on /source is 2016-Mar-16 17:43:30openssl-1.1.0-pre4.tar.gz Is pre4 supposed to be the same as beta1? -- Hanno Böck https

Re: [openssl-dev] cipher order

2016-03-03 Thread Hanno Böck
is imho mostly irrelevant in practice. The difference between the two approaches may become mostly irrelevant once all major browsers support at least one aead mode with 256 bit, but I'm not sure if that's going to happen any time soon. -- Hanno Böck https://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: h

[openssl-dev] cipher order

2016-03-03 Thread Hanno Böck
f the (most likely more secure) AES128 in GCM mode. Can this be changed before 1.1.0 gets out? -- Hanno Böck https://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgp9aiNaxHyXU.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- openssl-dev mailing list To unsubscribe: https://mta.openss

Re: [openssl-dev] OpenSSL Security Advisory

2016-01-29 Thread Hanno Böck
current vuln, but I find this risky. It creates an additional server secret that can leak and bugs in the elliptic curve key exchange that would be harmless without this feature could become very severe. I would therefore propose to do the same change also for ECDH and make SSL_OP_SINGLE_ECDH_USE

Re: [openssl-dev] Behavior of OpenSSL EC API regarding point setting

2016-01-15 Thread Hanno Böck
. Not sure about point invalidity. But can > you open one or two tickets for this? Done now, RT tickets #4241 and #4242. -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgpgTXmArTMuk.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

[openssl-dev] Behavior of OpenSSL EC API regarding point setting

2015-12-15 Thread Hanno Böck
inates larger than p. [1] https://boringssl.googlesource.com/boringssl/+/38feb990a183362397ebc62774cc07374d146c83%5E%21/#F0 -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgpbFDbhMq0Sb.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature __

Re: [openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4017] [PATCH] Implement Camellia GCM suites (RFC 6367)

2015-08-24 Thread Hanno Böck
Camellia looks very similar, I doubt it will gain any significant use even if openssl supported camellia-gcm modes. -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgp3rZeH9NrDa.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ ope

Re: [openssl-dev] [openssl.org #4017] [PATCH] Implement Camellia GCM suites (RFC 6367)

2015-08-24 Thread Hanno Böck
lained by that. I'd propose that OpenSSL doesn't add any new features without a clear explanation what advantage they bring in which situation - and who is likely going to use that feature. [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1036765 -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/

Re: [openssl-dev] We're working on license changes

2015-07-31 Thread Hanno Böck
d not take code from OpenSSL. In the spirit of making OpenSSL as useful as possible for everyone I would consider a permissive license that's more compatible (e.g. MIT) a wiser choice. -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgpRcb97ky2Ry.

[openssl-dev] On release pre announcements

2015-07-08 Thread Hanno Böck
crypto breaks on reasonable default configurations? cu, -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgpGwx2xAtO7J.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openssl-dev mailing list To unsubscribe: https://mta.openssl.org/mailman/listinfo/openssl-dev

Re: [openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3908] Patch fixing some heartbeat issues (vs latest git master)

2015-06-13 Thread Hanno Böck
ese days, therefore everything that can be removed should be. -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgp_1NF_v2fSl.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openssl-dev mailing list To unsubscribe: https://mt

Re: [openssl-dev] [openssl.org #3796] doc for verify does misspell -CRLfile option

2015-04-13 Thread Hanno Böck
ch likely won't be backported anyway), patch should be noncontroversial to apply right away, right? -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgpgIXrPMG9HN.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature _

[openssl-dev] Merging Gentoo patches on OpenSSL

2015-04-01 Thread Hanno Böck
icket/Display.html?id=3332&user=guest&pass=guest Fix parallel builds: https://rt.openssl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=2084&user=guest&pass=guest Build fix of 64 bit on 32 bit systems: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=542618 -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hb

Re: [openssl-dev] Proposed cipher changes for post-1.0.2

2015-02-11 Thread Hanno Böck
https://www.blackhat.com/asia-15/briefings.html#bar-mitzva-attack-breaking-ssl-with-13-year-old-rc4-weakness cu, -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgp3WfFXnHCdN.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ op

Re: [openssl-dev] Proposed cipher changes for post-1.0.2

2015-02-11 Thread Hanno Böck
sl.org/pipermail/openssl-dev/2015-January/000421.html -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgp0DzpKqWEVG.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openssl-dev mailing list To unsubscribe: https://mta.openssl.org/m

Re: [openssl-dev] Proposed cipher changes for post-1.0.2

2015-02-10 Thread Hanno Böck
On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 21:15:36 + "Salz, Rich" wrote: > Comments? Sounds good. I'd further suggest to move everything that's not PFS&AEAD from HIGH to MEDIUM. -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgpwviI3Wtd4z.pgp D

Re: [openssl-dev] Seeking feedback on some #ifdef changes

2015-01-27 Thread Hanno Böck
izer. What's the plan here? Replace openssl's own memory management by default with "standard" memory management calls or is the plan to disable the possibility to have standard memory management at all? If the latter I'd vote against removing that flag. cu, -- Hanno B

[openssl-dev] [PATCH] better ordering of cipher suites, always prefer GCM/AEAD over CBC

2015-01-15 Thread Hanno Böck
p versions (1.0.2a/b)? I would prefer not having to wait with that till 1.1.0. cu, -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 --- openssl-1.0.2-stable-SNAP-20150115/ssl/ssl_ciph.c 2014-12-17 15:01:30.0 +0100 +++ openssl-1.0.2-stable-SNAP-20150115-hash/ssl/

Re: [openssl-dev] Circumstances cause CBC often to be preferred over GCM modes

2014-12-16 Thread Hanno Böck
27;t answer whether chacha20-poly1305 or aes-gcm should be considered "better", but I don't know if there is a clear consensus on that) -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgpPvtdfvznZX.pgp Description:

Re: [openssl-dev] Circumstances cause CBC often to be preferred over GCM modes

2014-12-16 Thread Hanno Böck
nt code mostly as it is, just add one further sorting step that will bring GCM ciphers in front of non-gcm ones. I think that should give the desired result. -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgp99F4AWZVtw.pgp Description: Op

Re: [openssl-dev] Circumstances cause CBC often to be preferred over GCM modes

2014-12-16 Thread Hanno Böck
A:AECDH-RC4-SHA:ADH-RC4-MD5:EXP-ADH-RC4-MD5:ECDH-RSA-RC4-SHA:ECDH-ECDSA-RC4-SHA:RC4-SHA:RC4-MD5:EXP-RC4-MD5:EXP-RC4-MD5:RC4-MD5:PSK-RC4-SHA:ECDHE-RSA-NULL-SHA:ECDHE-ECDSA-NULL-SHA:AECDH-NULL-SHA:ECDH-RSA-NULL-SHA:ECDH-ECDSA-NULL-SHA:NULL-SHA256:NULL-SHA:NULL-MD5 -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/

Re: [openssl-dev] Circumstances cause CBC often to be preferred over GCM modes

2014-12-16 Thread Hanno Böck
ingssl and submit them. -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgpOzx88GMmMN.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openssl-dev mailing list openssl-dev@openssl.org https://mta.opensslfoundation.net/mailman

Re: [openssl-dev] Circumstances cause CBC often to be preferred over GCM modes

2014-12-15 Thread Hanno Böck
cbc if gcm would be available (just point chrome to https://www.openssl.org to see it). -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgps7WZymtGQM.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openssl-dev m

Re: [openssl-dev] Circumstances cause CBC often to be preferred over GCM modes

2014-12-15 Thread Hanno Böck
HonorCipherOrder on SSLCipherSuite HIGH:!MEDIUM:!LOW:!aNULL@STRENGTH Result: no GCM in chrome/ff, but FS in all ssl labs reference browsers (and A+ rating). -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgplMFinTgEl3.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [openssl-dev] Circumstances cause CBC often to be preferred over GCM modes

2014-12-15 Thread Hanno Böck
eally change the outcome: There are a number of sites probably configured in good faith with secure settings that result in CBC being preferred over GCM. (But good to note that a quick fix is to disable SSLHonorCipherOrder on affected apache servers) -- Hanno Bö

Re: [openssl-dev] Circumstances cause CBC often to be preferred over GCM modes

2014-12-15 Thread Hanno Böck
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 20:31:53 -0500 "Salz, Rich" wrote: > Is this a theoretical issue, or have you seen it in widespread use? www.openssl.org would be an example where you can see it live and real :-) -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de

[openssl-dev] Circumstances cause CBC often to be preferred over GCM modes

2014-12-15 Thread Hanno Böck
ES-256, but only in its less secure mode. Thoughts? cu, -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgpqaniJapD9b.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openssl-dev mailing list openssl-dev@openssl.org https:

Re: SSLv2 & SSLv3

2014-06-28 Thread Hanno Böck
't have any impact. I'm also running my servers without sslv3 (although the openssl there still supports it, I just disable it in the software configurations). -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Reading the public key of a certificate created with RSA PSS

2014-05-08 Thread Hanno Böck
lly create and use such dedicate pss keys. I'm interested: Who has created these certificates and what software was used there? -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [openssl.org #3336] 1.0.1g breaks IronPORT SMTP appliance (padding extension)

2014-05-01 Thread Hanno Böck
On Thu, 1 May 2014 14:29:44 +0200 Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 01:35:19PM +0200, Hanno Böck wrote: > > > > Maybe this should teach us a lesson: Adding more and more > > Workarounds for broken stuff isn't the way to go forward. The way > > to g

Re: [openssl.org #3336] 1.0.1g breaks IronPORT SMTP appliance (padding extension)

2014-05-01 Thread Hanno Böck
attacks and accidental downgrades - now there's a proposal for a downgrade protection extension that only tries to fix a problem we wouldn't have in the first place if people didn't introduce stupid workarounds for broken stuff) -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hb

The Future of OpenSSL

2014-04-23 Thread Hanno Böck
t likely there are people asking themselves if they'd better invest their time in improving openssl or helping out libressl. So to the openssl devs: Please give some answers. cu, -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 signature.asc Description: PGP signature

openssl 1.0.2 beta1 and heartbleed

2014-04-19 Thread Hanno Böck
he openssl devs create a new beta2 version that includes the heartbleed fix? cu, -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: OpenSSL should disable or remove heartbeat

2014-04-15 Thread Hanno Böck
e defaults. Enabling an extension that nobody uses shouldn't happen. So the default of that switch should be "off", unless someone has a convincing argument otherwise. Adding features "because we can" is not helpful and adds attack surface. -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/

OpenSSL should disable or remove heartbeat

2014-04-15 Thread Hanno Böck
ould think of removing DSA key support, because nobody uses that anyway and DSA is a bad algorithm. cu, -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: OpenSSL has exploit mitigation countermeasures to make sure its exploitable

2014-04-10 Thread Hanno Böck
e should have for SSL implementations. -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Filter short DH key sizes?

2014-03-13 Thread Hanno Böck
of them can be tested in a reasonable way by the client. (e.g. testing if a prime really is a prime is not efficiently possible for large key exchanges - and there are also weak primes) cu, -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Dual_EC_DRBG

2013-09-12 Thread Hanno Böck
://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/377946072532140032 https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/377946680395845633 I am not familiar with the details, but want to bring it up for discussion here. Maybe it should be disabled or at least discouraged in the docs. cu, -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail

Re: [openssl-dev] Security of RC4 in TLS

2013-03-15 Thread Hanno Böck
agree - going to AES-GCM is the only sane solution at the moment and everyone should migrate as soon as possible - everything else is really too broken to rely on it for the medium term. -- Hanno Böck mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 http://www.hboeck.de/ signatu

openssl not showing any TLS 1.1 chiper suites

2012-10-25 Thread Hanno Böck
ith TLSv1.1 and that doesn't require TLS 1.2? Or what would be the correct ciphersuite string? I think what's happening here is that !sslv3 disables all cipher suites that are part of sslv3, including those that are still supported by tlsv1.1. However, I'm unsure if that's t

Re: patch to add a switch for renegotiation

2011-11-15 Thread Hanno Böck
e server than on the initiating client - changing that would be possible only in the TLS design. Connection limits can help (though they shouldn't be limited to renegotiation), but it's not really a nice solution. -- Hanno Böck mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 http://www.hboeck.de/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: openssl 1.0.1 and rumors about TLS 1.0 attacks

2011-09-27 Thread Hanno Böck
LS 1.1/1.2 - The interim solution may be just disabling AES and rely on RC4. So I'd like to repeat my question and hope some of the openssl devs will answer: When can we expect a TLS 1.1/1.2 enabled version? What's the status of openssl 1.0.1? -- Hanno Böck mail/jabber:

Re: openssl 1.0.1 and rumors about TLS 1.0 attacks

2011-09-20 Thread Hanno Böck
side of a connection has them or do both need them to be secure? (the most likely scenario with https is probably an nss client with an openssl server) -- Hanno Böck mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 http://www.hboeck.de/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature

openssl 1.0.1 and rumors about TLS 1.0 attacks

2011-09-20 Thread Hanno Böck
and going to tls 1.1 or 1.2 should fix it. AFAIK, openssl current release 1.0.0 has no tls 1.2, but the planned openssl 1.0.1 should have. Which leads to the question: Is there a planned timeline for a 1.0.1 release and could this be accelerated if the issue turns out to be serious? -- Hanno Böck

Parameter "-extensions v3_ca" seems to get ignored - subca

2011-04-09 Thread Hanno Böck
e? Or is this a bug somehow? (tried with openssl 1.0.0d and current cvs code) -- Hanno Böck mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 http://www.hboeck.de/ JETZT zu Ökostrom wechseln: http://atomausstieg-selber-machen.de signature.asc Description: PGP signature

CMS signing with pss?

2011-02-24 Thread Hanno Böck
Hi, I was wondering if openssl CVS head is capable of doing cms signing with rsa pss. Seems not, openssl cms doesn't recognize the -sigopt rsa_padding_mode:pss parameter. Anyone working on this? cu, -- Hanno Böck mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42

Plans for openssl 1.1?

2010-10-12 Thread Hanno Böck
estimation when an openssl version supporting PSS will be out) cu, -- Hanno Böck Blog: http://www.hboeck.de/ GPG: 3DBD3B20 Jabber/Mail:ha...@hboeck.de http://schokokeks.org - professional webhosting signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [PATCH] Fix parallel build

2008-06-01 Thread Hanno Böck
Am Samstag 31 Mai 2008 schrieb Daniel Black: > On Sat, 31 May 2008 07:13:32 pm Hanno Böck wrote: > > This patch adds some dependencies to the Makefile targets to allow > > parallel make to succeed. Please apply. > > > > (Patch is taken from Gentoo Linux) > > as

[PATCH] Fix parallel build

2008-05-31 Thread Hanno Böck
This patch adds some dependencies to the Makefile targets to allow parallel make to succeed. Please apply. (Patch is taken from Gentoo Linux) -- Hanno Böck Blog: http://www.hboeck.de/ GPG: 3DBD3B20 Jabber/Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description

[PATCH] create engines dir

2008-05-31 Thread Hanno Böck
This patch will create the /lib/engines directory if it doesn't exist on installation. Please apply. (Patch taken from gentoo linux) -- Hanno Böck Blog: http://www.hboeck.de/ GPG: 3DBD3B20 Jabber/Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- openssl-0.9.8/engines/Mak

Time scale for 0.9.9?

2007-09-07 Thread Hanno Böck
when it's ready. I'd only like to know if it's something like "we're shortly before release" or "it'll take years till then" or something in between. -- Hanno Böck Blog: http://www.hboeck.de/ GPG: 3DBD3B20 Jabber: [EMAIL PROT