need to make. Wherever we're at with the convergence step that was last
triggered can just be cancelled by the new one.
Seems that we need a protocol for cancelling an operation then ...
I think Clint meant 'undoes' not 'cancels the in-progress code'.
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On April 23, 2014 at 7:47:37 PM, Robert Collins (robe...@robertcollins.net)
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Hi, we've got this summit session planned -
http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/428 which is really about
https
it off hard, we should see incremental benefits by J, and the whole
thing for K.
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solutions which relied on keeping the basic internals of heat as-is
and just tweaking things - an approach we don't believe will work -
the issues arise from the current architecture, not the quality of the
code (which is fine).
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the summit is precious - things that are straight engineering are not
a particularly effective use of the time of a room with 30-80 people
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- I don't believe I've got the bandwidth to do
complete justice to both roles, so I'm going to focus on the PTL role
over the next cycle.
Naturally, I may well volunteer my time at the next TC vote, depending
on project status, bandwidth and so on :)
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add docs to incubator, since thats already a
repository separate to our production code - what do folk think?
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collaboration time betwixt Nova and TripleO. The TripleO
midcycle meetups are 'doing' meetings, not planning meetings - but
plenty of planning does still happen ;)
Date wise, how about before OSCON ? PyConAU which often gets a heavy
openstack contingent is august 1-5.
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On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Robert Collins
robe...@robertcollins.net wrote:
I've been watching the nova process, and I think its working out well
- it certainly addresses:
- making design work visible
- being able
This has been actioned. Welcome!
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On 8 April 2014 11:50, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote:
tl;dr: 3 more core members to propose:
bnemec
greghaynes
jdon
On 4 April 2014 08:55, Chris Jones c...@tenshu.net wrote:
Hi
+1 for your proposed -core changes.
Re your question
On 16 April 2014 11:28, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Hugh O. Brock hbr...@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 09:30:45AM +1200, Robert Collins wrote:
Redhat offered to host the next TripleO midcycle meetup in Raleigh, I
don't know if they have
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agent can be configured as active/active.
But l3-agent and metadata-agent still should be active/passive,
Why should the metadata-agent be active-passive?
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all the effort folk have been
putting into this - I just showed it to one of our product folk here
and they really love it ;)
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in the database - over time and at scale this becomes a
real problem.
Not just you. I want my main database to reflect the current active data.
Historical data should go somewhere else.
+1. Fastest way to make an OLTP workload crawl is to mix it up with warehousing.
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Summit time is here - please suggest sessions :)
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with the sentiment, but
nervous about impl.
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On 8 April 2014 11:51, Dan Prince dpri...@redhat.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:00:30 PM
Subject: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config
higher order configuration - cluster aware - be done well
- whilst also surfacing the plumbing as needed.
Right now we have no differentiation between plumbing exposure and
semantically modelled configuration, and I think thats a problem.
I *loved* Dan's answer :)
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We had a long chat about this in the meeting today.
we had rough consensus on the following path of action
- we'll put together a quick-but-effective config passthrough
mechanism, with a goal of landing it in the next few days
- it needs to handle tie and tht - we need a pass through vector
very good and consistent, somewhere between
Greg and Ben in terms of bigger-context awareness - so another
definite +1 from me.
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to the project we deploy
* expanding our coverage to deploy everything
* Migrating to Tuskar for everything but the deployment of the seed
Obviously, if you have questions please ask!
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deployments - please
run 'check experimental' before approving things ;)
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There is not currently an Ironic based overcloud job; we may add one in future.
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project for
each series - e.g. trunk of everything, Icehouse of servers with trunk
of everything else, etc and make that easily acccessible?
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- who (who is a tripleo core today)
supports / disagrees with this proposal - lets get some consensus
here.
I'm in favour, obviously :), though it is hard to put reviews ahead of
direct itch scratching, its the only way to scale the project.
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, and in fact its better to run it from there than from
e.g. the seed, because otherwise the jenkins slave is idle, just
wasting all the ram it used to build images.
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devtest on openstack for now since I
figured everyone else could add their thoughts in their own words.
I think it would be super useful if you could capture all the things
in one place - it will mean we don't need to chase folk up to ensure
their idea is present in the etherpad.
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to an etherpad and link that from a blueprint for future selves
finding it.
In particular I'd like to make being able to use OpenStack a J series
goal, though it doesn't help with local dev overheads.
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- sorry that I took time to send this note - please
do dive in and we'll get some consensus around the direction to take
things.
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This is a very mature stance and well-written email. Thanks, Flavio and
all of the Marconi team for having thick skin and responding to the
various issues professionally.
+1
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don't think Marconi is
dumb, but I sure don't understand why list of things discussed, and
that you've very nicely rephrased here. Thank you!
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to a maintenance node machine' is simple nove boot with
a scheduler hint to explicitly choose that machine, and all the
regular machinery will take place.
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in many organisations I've
been in - and yet we're preparing to graduate *exactly that* which is
frankly perplexing.
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https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74600/ might be a good reason.
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On 18 March 2014 07:28, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 16:10 +1300, Robert Collins wrote:
Hi Rob, thanks for the heads up.
A number of us use pbr for outside-of-OpenStack projects, and have
relied on it for things like proper package versioning using git tags.
Yup
or part of pbr?
pbr has significant issues with dependencies due to its installation
in the early bootstrap stage of setup.py. So, it will be in pbr.
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On 17 March 2014 10:32, Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote:
On 17/03/14 10:14, Robert Collins wrote:
On 17 March 2014 09:20, Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote:
It looks like the cert files you want to transfer are all ascii rather than
binary, which is good as we have yet to implement
' key in setup.cfg) untagged commits.
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are. OTOH testing the micro-cloud that folk may start with
is also a really good idea
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probably going to push when I get a little more me time.
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of TripleO even while it still
building up to being a product, which James is leading the effort on -
so we need to find reasonable compromises on areas of friction in the
interim.
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to cater for this.
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don't make sense to me to branch - we consume them via releases from
PyPI, not branches, so to freeze for stability you just need to
specify known good release versions to consume.
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This is a new repository to provide common code for tuskar and the
seed initialisation logic - the post heat completion initial
configuration of a cloud.
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Looking into it now.
On 27 Feb 2014 15:56, Derek Higgins der...@redhat.com wrote:
On 25/02/14 00:08, Robert Collins wrote:
Today we had an outage of the tripleo test cloud :(.
tl;dr:
- we were down for 14 hours
- we don't know the fundamental cause
- infra were not inconvenienced
On 27 February 2014 15:55, Derek Higgins der...@redhat.com wrote:
On 25/02/14 00:08, Robert Collins wrote:
Today we had an outage of the tripleo test cloud :(.
tl;dr:
- we were down for 14 hours
- we don't know the fundamental cause
- infra were not inconvenienced - yaaay
- its all ok
On 27 February 2014 20:35, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote:
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Checking new instance connectivity next.
DHCP is functional and no cloud-init errors, so we should be fully up.
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at the time*.
And possibly a third:
- a way for openstack-infra admins to escalate to us in the event of
OMG things happening. Like, we send 1000 VMs all at once at their git
mirrors or something.
And with that lets open the door for ideas!
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#openstack-neutron.
But what are we meant to do? Nova etc are dead easy: nova-manage db
sync every time the code changes, done.
Neutron seems to do something special and different here, and it's not
documented from an ops perspective AFAICT - so - please help, cluebats
needed!
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in states like ACTIVE
deleting, and did not clear until we did a rolling restart of every
nova compute process.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1284356
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On 18 February 2014 04:30, Derek Higgins der...@redhat.com wrote:
On 17/02/14 01:25, Robert Collins wrote:
Hi!
The nascent tripleo-gate is now running on all tripleo repositories,
*and should pass*, but are not yet voting. They aren't voting because
we cannot submit to the gate unless
if a provider can't be
contacted. The other is to have zuul timeout jobs that don't start at
all. Both should be small - 1 day of dev for a cold start on the
project. Pure python.
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On 18 February 2014 13:25, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote:
How do you put the code in? It's asking for a credit card no matter what I
do..
NVM. Found the nicely styled small text in low contrast colour.
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, was because I deleted the entire cloud, at the same
time that we had a firedrill with some other upstream-of-us issue (I
forget the exact one). The multi-region setup we're aiming for should
mitigate that substantially :)
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every jenkins comment to be sure.
But- will infra be ok, if we end up having a firedrill 'please make
this nonvoting' change to propose?
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On 17 February 2014 13:50, Mike Spreitzer mspre...@us.ibm.com wrote:
Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote on 02/16/2014 05:26:50 PM:
I would have expected run_tests.sh to tox which creates a venv, but
heat seems different. So you'll need to install testrepository via
your system tox
an infrastructure failure that means
spurious -1's will be occurring, then we'll put that in the #tripleo
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and backout whatever Neutron change tickles this (but a client release
seems best overall to me).
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to propose a merge to infra/config to put our
undercloud story (which exercises the seed's ability to deploy via
heat with bare metal) as a check experimental job on our dependencies
(keystone, glance, nova, neutron) - if thats ok with those projects?
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+1
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So some ability to keep on top of that I think would be really great.
+2
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to let you 'nova boot' anywhere, that we should be hiding
these incidental (vs fundamental capability) differences.
What say ye all?
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Dan - your DHCP-all-interfaces changes broke on Ubuntu 'testenv'
environments - we've backed them out to give them time to be fixed
without it being a firedrill.
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(based on testing on our prod hardware) to improve overall
performance.
Longer term with Ironic I can see multicast/bittorrent/that sort of
thing being used to achieve efficient concurrency when deploying many
identical images.
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, and limits the ability to do efficient at-scale
deployments.
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, but it seems to me that this is something that
would be useful for VM environments too - upload a new image, deploy
10K VM's running hadoop off of it - multicast/p2p is a great way to
reduce hotspots.
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::AutoScaling::LaunchConfiguration
...
Alternatively, have something in the NovaCompute0Config.Metadata
section that is identified as heats signal-to-us marker.
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an update_policy? Another new directive at the
type/properties/depends_on/update_policy level?)
I would say per resource.
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without nova network in
Icehouse and add the nova-network extension in Juno.
+1, also off by default perhaps ;)
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a) is overly scoped.
I think we should have a flavor attribute in the definition of a
service role, and no unsupported hacks needed; and J goals should be
given a chunk of time to refine in Atlanta.
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in hardware (e.g. 1TB vs 1.1TB disks) just register
them as being identical, with the lowest common denominator - Nova
will then treat them as equal.
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Right now I know of:
- libvirt
- nova-bm
I have a patch up for libvirt, and shortly will have one for nova-bm.
Do any other drivers support file injection?
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clear (at least to me).
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70021/
both demonstrates the glue (subunit is the wire protocol, testtools
has the model level functions) and approximates what you've asked for
as a first iteration.
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both physical ports with their unique MACs and the fact they are
bonded etc.
A related one is virtual IPs for HA for nova baremetal, but I'm not
sure having that modelled as a /port/ makes sense, rather a second IP
on a port.
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that dispatches out to everything.
Anyhow - I believe no matter what that this is future work and Ironic
should be driven by the evolving design, rather than assuming anything
about batch or not batch and changing in advance.
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the batch seems undesirable to me.
Besides which, as Ironic also dispatches work to many different
backend workers, sending a batch to Ironic would just result in it
having to split it out as well.
-Rob
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changes and testing so that we
only have one HA database created, not two non-HA setup in parallel
:).
I'm going to put this into trello now, and will adjust as we discuss
-Rob
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related problems of affinity / anti affinity etc,
we can avoid future confusion.
-Rob
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such as reserved
words or recovery handling from certain errors.
Yup.
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This was meant to go to -dev, not -operators. Doh.
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Date: 24 January 2014 08:47
Subject: [TripleO] mid-cycle meetup?
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