Carlos E. R. wrote:
I installed a SuSE 6.x on a 386SX, 5Mb ram - just to prove myself it is
possible. The installer would certainly not run,
I know, I tried the same :-)
but I simply took the HD
to another computer, and installed it there.
it's a good solution, if applicable. here I have
On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 08:17:45PM -0500, Benjy Grogan wrote:
Hello,
I'm new to openSUSE. Is there a place where I can see all the rpms that are
included in 10.1 beta3? Is Eclipse available, and if not what development
platform is in it's stead?
ARCHIVES.gz should have that. If you take
Carlos E. R. wrote:
He is thinking of image meaning photos or graphics. A language
translation missunderstanding.
yes and no :-). yes in the first place, I don't see a kernel
as an image (for me if not a picture an image is a disk),
but then no, because it's possible to have a much smaller
I've got a little better now. found the alt F9 console in
linuxrc to test memory
I did the following, monitoring the process from aF9 and aF2
unplug all what was not strictly necessary (cd, net, even
mouse and floppy-all but the AC plug :-)
lauch install. directly from the copied cd (no need
Am Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2006 08:52 schrieb Liviu Damian:
On Thursday 16 February 2006 09:46, Carl Hartung wrote:
Out of curiosity, are you thinking of doing this because you're
having problems with your system? I only ask because you might
actually make things worse by doing this. If
Am Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2006 20:16 schrieb jdd:
Michael Loeffler wrote:
The en page is the reference page. And of course we are intersted in
french speaking people and asked jdd already (I guess 2-3 hours ago)
?? not received, may be in my spam box :-( anyway I did the
translation.
oops,
On Thursday 16 February 2006 11:42, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
You should have a look at the .y2log files. There you can find, which
packages you installed and when you did it:
I found an easy way to do it:
Open YaST - Install into directory, choose default system with KDE,
detailed selection,
What's the status on Beta 4? Is it going to be released today?
/Jan K.
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On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 11:25:58PM +0100, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 you said:
I just went over the list and commented a few entries:
[..]
* postfix with mysql support: Part of 10.0 already AFAIK
(postfix-mysql)
Can't find this anywhere, not in Yast, or with pin.
well. it was pretty tricky but I manage to get a functional
10.0 on my tiny box :-)
even Windowmaker runs well
I have still to understand why the pcmcia cdrom don't works
from install, this would be much more handy, but secondary.
I will also try SUPER. However it seems that there is no
more
On Thursday 16 February 2006 02:52, Liviu Damian wrote:
No, I'm doing these because I need to document the procedure of
installing a piece of software, including the dependences in case you
have a stock KDE install.
Good! That's better than having problems! :-)
That's not what I want to
Hello,
Sorry if this is the wrong list. I'm moving from Mandriva to Suse 10.0.
I'm a little confused about the difference between Online Update and
System Update. Am I right in thinking that System Update would be used
if no net connection or if you had updates on a disc? Thanks for any
help.
On Thursday 16 February 2006 13:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
Hi Steve
Sorry if this is the wrong list. I'm moving from Mandriva to Suse 10.0.
I'm a little confused about the difference between Online Update and
System Update. Am I right in thinking that System Update would be used
if
hello pete and steve,
On 2/16/06, Peter Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 16 February 2006 13:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
Hi Steve
Sorry if this is the wrong list. I'm moving from Mandriva to Suse 10.0.
I'm a little confused about the difference between Online
On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 01:11:36PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
Sorry if this is the wrong list.
suse-linux-e should be more apropriate: http://en.opensuse.org/Communicate
I'm moving from Mandriva to Suse 10.0.
I'm a little confused about the difference between Online Update and
On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 06:45:03AM -0700, Edward Dunagin wrote:
any suggestions? thanksed
I sugest you tell us what you want a sugestion about, because I have no
idea what you want. :-(
houghi
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On Thursday 16 February 2006 13:45, Edward Dunagin wrote:
hello pete and steve,
On 2/16/06, Peter Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 16 February 2006 13:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
Hi Steve
Sorry if this is the wrong list. I'm moving from Mandriva to Suse 10.0.
Here a picture for the next SUSE release. They are Gecko's:
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/content/pic2682.jpg
(OK, perhaps not. ;-)
houghi
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Hi all,
I got a question, it might just be OE question, but what is a good cut
off point for old packages, I need Scibus, and I saw on there page 9.1
thru 9.3, I am wondering is SuSE 9 a good point or if we see packages
as old as 7, can we install them we can't find an tarball or rpm.
Payne
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On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 10:33:46AM -0500, Chuck Payne wrote:
Hi all,
I got a question, it might just be OE question, but what is a good cut
off point for old packages, I need Scibus, and I saw on there page 9.1
thru 9.3, I am wondering is SuSE 9 a good point or if we see packages
as old as
On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 04:39:06PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've obviously missed something here. I'm using Suse 10 from a cover
disc. Is suse-linux-e not for the paid/boxed version?
No.
houghi
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finishing
I have a laptop on which I've recently installed openSUSE 10.1 and which has
two network devices: eth0 (100 Mbps Ethernet) and eth1 (802.11g 54 Mbps
WLAN). Both network devices are configured to configure themselves via DHCP.
If I am using eth0 for network access, it configures itself without any
I have always been a bit confused by this terminology in YaST - it's
called YOU = YaST Online Update, but also System Update. I have
learned a long time ago from a wise and clever teacher that one should
distinguish between an update[1] and an upgrade[2]. So maybe it might
help to avoid confusion
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 you said:
On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 11:25:58PM +0100, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 you said:
I just went over the list and commented a few entries:
[..]
* postfix with mysql support: Part of 10.0 already AFAIK
(postfix-mysql)
Can't find
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 you said:
Op woensdag 15 februari 2006 23:25, schreef Theo v. Werkhoven:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 you said:
I just went over the list and commented a few entries:
[..]
* postfix with mysql support: Part of 10.0 already AFAIK
(postfix-mysql)
Can't find this
Peter Connolly wrote:
Online update is for delivery of patches and updates from SUSE/Novell on an
'as-needed' basis. System update is for moving from say, version 10.0 to
10.1, larger version upgrades.
This is very much not true. If you do use it for this, you will need to
do some serious
houghi wrote:
System Update is when you go from e.g. SUSE 9.3 to 10.0. So your complete
system.
No
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Thomas Hertweck wrote:
I have always been a bit confused by this terminology in YaST - it's
called YOU = YaST Online Update, but also System Update. I have
learned a long time ago from a wise and clever teacher that one should
distinguish between an update[1] and an upgrade[2]. So maybe it
Anders Johansson wrote:
[...]
Well, with these definitions, System Update is just that, a System
Update. It shouldn't be used to upgrade to a completely new version of
the system (e.g. moving from 10.0 to 10.1). It should be used for when
you have a source of rpms and you want to mass update
Thomas Hertweck wrote:
Sorry Anders, you're wrong!
Sorry, I'm not.
A bunch of RPMs should be installed via
Software Management - just add the Packman repository as installation
source and that's it. YOU (=Update) is for bug and security fixes, and
System Update is indeed for upgrading from
Anders Johansson wrote:
[...]
I'm well aware of this (I work there) but what you're talking about is
not System Update. You're talking about a system upgrade from CD or DVD,
which is how it should be done. What the OP was asking was what the
difference was between online update and system
Thomas Hertweck wrote:
... because the System Update is no update but an upgrade (it
installs completely new versions of software packages!).
No, it performs a system update by doing package upgrades. That's a
difference
That's what
I've said before and asked to change - it should be called
Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
I'v installed from CDs btw, no DVD player on that machine, but I
would presume that ARCHIVES.gz I copied from CD1 should list all the
packages.
It lists all packages (and their contents - if you're just looking for a
particular package name INDEX.gz is much easier to
Theo v. Werkhoven schrieb:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 you said:
Theo v. Werkhoven schrieb:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 you said:
It's on the server:
opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/suse/i586/postfix-mysql-2.2.5-5.i586.rpm
Thus *not* part of SUSE10.0, and my additions to the wishlist were
Anders Johansson wrote:
[...]
I use system update all the time, to update the packages from the
supplementary directories and from Packman. I find it much easier to
work with for mass updates (package upgrades) than the software
management module, which I mainly use for single package
Dear list,
does anybody know how to convert a rpm to SuSE? Especially change the
dependencies?
Thanks
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On Thursday 16 February 2006 19:40, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
I have always been a bit confused by this terminology in YaST - it's
called YOU = YaST Online Update, but also System Update. I have
learned a long time ago from a wise and clever teacher that one should
distinguish between
On Thursday 16 February 2006 19:59, Anders Johansson wrote:
Peter Connolly wrote:
Online update is for delivery of patches and updates from SUSE/Novell on
an 'as-needed' basis. System update is for moving from say, version 10.0
to 10.1, larger version upgrades.
This is very much not
On 2006-02-16 23:26:46 +0100, Johannes Nohl wrote:
does anybody know how to convert a rpm to SuSE? Especially change the
dependencies?
rebuild the source rpm?
darix
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Hi Anders ( Thomas)
On Thursday 16 February 2006 21:48, Anders Johansson wrote:
Thomas Hertweck wrote:
... because the System Update is no update but an upgrade (it
installs completely new versions of software packages!).
No, it performs a system update by doing package upgrades. That's a
Hi,
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Pete Connolly wrote:
On Thursday 16 February 2006 19:59, Anders Johansson wrote:
Peter Connolly wrote:
Online update is for delivery of patches and updates from SUSE/Novell on
an 'as-needed' basis. System update is for moving from say, version 10.0
to 10.1, larger
Hi,
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Pete Connolly wrote:
[Yast2 System Update]
I've done it before, from 9.1-9.2-9.3 but my luck ran out in the end.
You have not. Yast2 does detect what you want and does inhibit it.
You have to boot from an installation medium to do it.
Cheers -e
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On Thursday 16 February 2006 22:40, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Pete Connolly wrote:
OK, maybe I've got it wrong, but what is it for? I've always understood
it to be for moving from one point version to another, e.g. 9.2-9.3 etc.
It's worked for me,
It has
On Thursday 16 February 2006 22:46, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Pete Connolly wrote:
[Yast2 System Update]
I've done it before, from 9.1-9.2-9.3 but my luck ran out in the end.
You have not. Yast2 does detect what you want and does inhibit it.
You have to boot
I've had some trouble installing 10.1b2 properly as explained in other
posts.
At a couple of instances however, a remarkable Boot Splas image has
appeared on the screen:
it looked like a Christmas card with a jumping Santa Claus on top or
jumping over it. I would say it reminds me about a hack,
Hi,
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Pete Connolly wrote:
On Thursday 16 February 2006 22:40, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Pete Connolly wrote:
OK, maybe I've got it wrong, but what is it for? I've always understood
it to be for moving from one point version to another, e.g. 9.2-9.3
Hi,
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Pete Connolly wrote:
On Thursday 16 February 2006 22:46, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Pete Connolly wrote:
[Yast2 System Update]
I've done it before, from 9.1-9.2-9.3 but my luck ran out in the end.
You have not. Yast2 does detect what you
Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Pete Connolly wrote:
[Yast2 System Update]
I've done it before, from 9.1-9.2-9.3 but my luck ran out in the end.
You have not. Yast2 does detect what you want and does inhibit it.
No, unfortunately it doesn't. It will let you do it,
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 you said:
Theo v. Werkhoven schrieb:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 you said:
[..]
So it *is* on the SUSE Linux 10.0 DVD.
So it seems. Thanks for enlighting me.
But then I wonder why pin or a search in yast didn't reveal this.
I'v installed from CDs btw, no DVD player on
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 you said:
Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
I'v installed from CDs btw, no DVD player on that machine, but I
would presume that ARCHIVES.gz I copied from CD1 should list all the
packages.
It lists all packages (and their contents - if you're just looking for a
particular
On Thursday 16 February 2006 23:10, Anders Johansson wrote:
Pete Connolly wrote:
The question above still stands. What is System Upgrade for? When you're
finished telling me about my own system, maybe you could answer it?
Did you read the thread between me and Thomas?
System update is
Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
[...]
e.g. 9.2-9.3 etc. is a pure lie.
I don't think you're right. I have a SuSE 9.2 here, and if I specify the
FTP directory of 9.3 as installation source, then...
[...]
Surely.
Your base system needs to be likely uptodate, else you get a message that
you need
Hi!
does anybody know how to convert a rpm to SuSE? Especially change the
dependencies?
rebuild the source rpm?
And how to use a prebuild binary package. Otherwise I can use tar'ed
files and build my own rpm.
Johannes
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Hi,
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Anders Johansson wrote:
Pete Connolly wrote:
The question above still stands. What is System Upgrade for? When you're
finished telling me about my own system, maybe you could answer it?
Did you read the thread between me and Thomas?
System update is for mass
Pete Connolly wrote:
It was a rhetorical question, not mean literally. I'm fairly sure I know
what
system update is, having peformed the impossible a few times.
Well, apparently not. It's not impossible, as you say, but it's not the
intended purpose. It will not work fully, you will for
Will the Fedora rpm's xine-lib, libdvdcss workin Suse10.0 ?
To play DVD movies?
Jim
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Thomas Hertweck wrote:
Well, I won't do that because I think there is no chance to succeed.
However, I think the names are really confusing (might have confused
myself as well) and some improvement (whatever that is; discuss!
Distinguishing between upgrade and update, as proposed, is obviously
jim tate wrote:
Will the Fedora rpm's xine-lib, libdvdcss workin Suse10.0 ?
To play DVD movies?
Don't know. Is it an academic exercise, or will the SUSE 10.0 packages
from packman.links2linux.org work for you?
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Hi,
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Pete Connolly wrote:
On Thursday 16 February 2006 23:00, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Pete Connolly wrote:
On Thursday 16 February 2006 22:40, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Pete Connolly wrote:
OK, maybe I've got it wrong, but
Hi,
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
[...]
e.g. 9.2-9.3 etc. is a pure lie.
I don't think you're right. I have a SuSE 9.2 here, and if I specify the
FTP directory of 9.3 as installation source, then...
[...]
Surely.
Your base system needs to be
Anders Johansson wrote:
[...]
And in some cases it will fail miserably. Not too many years ago, the
YaST script syntax changed, and this caused any attempt to use System
Update to upgrade to the next version to fail as soon as the new version
of YaST got installed (it only read the new
Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
[...]
Practice. Since 4.4.1.
The necessary hand-crafting steps from 5.3 to 6.0 were the difficultiest
ever, and I really know only one person who did everything right to trick
out Yast with success.
Sorry, no hand-crafting involved here. I could do the update
Hi,
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, jim tate wrote:
Will the Fedora rpm's xine-lib, libdvdcss workin Suse10.0 ?
To play DVD movies?
Not knowing them, my advice: you better use packman, f.e.
nttp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/10.0
You can add it as additional installation source.
Cheers -e
Hi,
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
[...]
Practice. Since 4.4.1.
The necessary hand-crafting steps from 5.3 to 6.0 were the difficultiest
ever, and I really know only one person who did everything right to trick
out Yast with success.
Sorry, no
Eberhard Moenkeberg schrieb:
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Anders Johansson wrote:
System update is for mass updating of packages, e.g. if you want to get
the latest packages from the supplementary directories in one go
More abstract, you can adjust your installation source to some release
Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
Therefore I wonder, how large part of content is really changed? If it
would be fairly easy adn possible to pack only the changes (upgrade
part) on one single beta upgrade CD, it would have been much more
attractive and saved a lot of time at downloading and
Hi,
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Siegbert Baude wrote:
Eberhard Moenkeberg schrieb:
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Anders Johansson wrote:
System update is for mass updating of packages, e.g. if you want to get
the latest packages from the supplementary directories in one go
More abstract, you can adjust
Anders Johansson wrote:
Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
Therefore I wonder, how large part of content is really changed? If it
would be fairly easy adn possible to pack only the changes (upgrade
part) on one single beta upgrade CD, it would have been much more
attractive and saved a lot of time at
Anders Johansson wrote:
Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
Therefore I wonder, how large part of content is really changed? If it
would be fairly easy adn possible to pack only the changes (upgrade
part) on one single beta upgrade CD, it would have been much more
attractive and saved a lot of time at
Hi,
Is there a problem with packman, I keep getting a error when I try to
dl from any of the packman site, via yast.
I am also look for Open-Xchange for SuSE10.0. Any clues? RPM please.
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On 2/16/06, Eberhard Moenkeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, jim tate wrote:
Will the Fedora rpm's xine-lib, libdvdcss workin Suse10.0 ?
To play DVD movies?
Not knowing them, my advice: you better use packman, f.e.
nttp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/10.0
On Thursday 16 February 2006 17:36, Marcus Rueckert wrote:
On 2006-02-16 23:26:46 +0100, Johannes Nohl wrote:
does anybody know how to convert a rpm to SuSE? Especially change the
dependencies?
rebuild the source rpm?
darix
Which is why I mentioned at the status meeting my interest in
On Wednesday 15 February 2006 19:12, Pascal Bleser wrote:
Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
On Wednesday 15 February 2006 13:18, jdd wrote:
Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
You can't have a single distro that does everything
why not :-).
Because it isn't practical. Look at Debian... its stable,
At 05:13 AM 15/02/2006, you wrote:
Wasn't sure whether to put this on the general opensuse or the wiki mailing
list...
?wiki mailing list
details please
thanks
scsijon
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At 01:17 AM 16/02/2006, you wrote:
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+1 YaST rules but YaST is *Big_n_Fat* ;-)
It makes the whole thing, each release, *far* too hangry with new
hardware power
to my point of view too!
all my updates are done in a window set as init3 (text mode), not
that fat and a lot less
At 12:40 AM 12/02/2006, you wrote:
On Saturday 11 February 2006 14:43, houghi wrote:
Then why is it YES in my standard Beta 3 configuration?
You misunderstood. It's supposed to be Yes by default. The workaround is
that you can set it to No manually.
Also perhaps having IPv6 off by default
At 10:52 PM 15/02/2006, you wrote:
Pascal Bleser wrote:
10.0 is significantly faster but crashes in the same area,
cut
this install tools is
configuring the pcmcia, but not completely so I can't read
the cd and need to copy the cd
At 06:04 AM 13/02/2006, you wrote:
Hi,
the last 2 days i was working on the new listserver trying out what we
can use a archive software etc.
I think im going to use MHonArc[1] with the following layout (hacked
together by me influenced by macho[2])
http://lists4.opensuse.org/opensuse/
What
At 11:43 PM 10/02/2006, you wrote:
Hi,
we talked in the last meeting about the language lists. This requires a
new layout (or rather _a_ layout because today we dont have guidelines
about it) of the lists. We thought about it and came up with the
following:
We need to distinguish between 3
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