On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 11:11:50AM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:
Hi there,
to proceed with the SuSEconfig clearance initiative, let's take a look at
SuSEconfig.gdm and SuSEconfig.wdm. Both of them are used to (re)generate
config files, by reading some options from /etc/sysconfig/*. To get
On Monday 21 August 2006 12:07, Christian Boltz wrote:
Generating config files every time *dm is started is a bad
idea IMHO. Reason: It is done _at every boot_ instead of
sometimes after installing packages or alike. So you
will speedup SuSEconfig, but slow down booting a bit :-(
By using a
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Christian Boltz wrote:
to proceed with the SuSEconfig clearance initiative, let's take a look
at SuSEconfig.gdm and SuSEconfig.wdm. Both of them are used to
(re)generate config files, by reading some options from
/etc/sysconfig/*. To get rid of those SuSEconfig
Dominique Leuenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What are other Distros doing? Why don't they need anything alike? What
is so much more special about the SuSE way that others don't need
anything alike?
The have similar problems - or force you to run scripts manually
AFAIK.
Is it just because
Hello,
Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[2006-08-21]:
Am Montag, 21. August 2006 11:11 schrieb Christoph Thiel:
to proceed with the SuSEconfig clearance initiative, let's take a
look at SuSEconfig.gdm and SuSEconfig.wdm. Both of them are used to
(re)generate config files, by reading some
The current format to define patterns - the .pat file - is rather
awkward to use and specific to one type of repository.
So I created
http://en.opensuse.org/Patterns/Definition_Language
to start a discussion on defining a more generic way
to describe patterns.
Comments welcome !
Klaus
Here are the minutes from our last meeting,
Andreas
* PolicyKit/resmgr
The upstream Hal authors are preparing to require PolicyKit.
PolicyKit is a system daemon, applications ask the daemon about
permissions. This is a similar concept as resmgr. The question is
how to move forward for
Am Monday 21 August 2006 14:27 schrieb Klaus Kaempf:
The current format to define patterns - the .pat file - is rather
awkward to use and specific to one type of repository.
So I created
http://en.opensuse.org/Patterns/Definition_Language
to start a discussion on defining a more generic
Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I only made a minimal list of patterns - and now want to open a new
discussion on what kind of patterns we should have.
I can add everything I find usefull - but please tell me what you find
usefull ;-)
Without having thought a
* Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Aug 21. 2006 14:48]:
I added for now - and did this only for KDE, GNOME will come later - a
generic KDE desktop pattern and a few sub patterns:
* KDE-BASIS
* KDE-Devel
* KDE-Edutainment
* KDE-Games
* KDE-Help
* KDE-IMAGE
* KDE-Internet
*
Hello,
Christoph Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-21]:
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
What are other Distros doing? Why don't they need anything alike? What
is so much more special about the SuSE way that others don't need
anything alike?
The have similar problems -
For Requires you usually done have to do anything. Autoreqprov is on
by default and that means that RPM compiles the list of Requires from
the binarys/scripts. For BuildRequires you have to do exactly what
you are doing..
Henne
Thank you! It's nice to know that I'm on the right path :)
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Am Montag, 21. August 2006 14:48 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
[...]
I added for now - and did this only for KDE, GNOME will come later - a
generic KDE desktop pattern and a few sub patterns:
* KDE-BASIS
* KDE-Devel
* KDE-Edutainment
*
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Robert Schiele wrote:
Comments, criticism, better ideas?
Not a better idea, just an alternative one: Patch aclocal to read
the /usr/share/aclocal/dirlist.d/* files directly.
Is that possible? The advantage is that people can still easily add
more
My personal feature request for 10.2
set a symbolic link each time a CD/DVD is inserted with /media/cdrom. The link
should always point to the last inserted CD/DVD.
/media/SUSE_LINUX_10.1
is cool, but its hard to work with CDs on command line and writing
documentation for Suse is also very
Am Montag, 21. August 2006 17:51 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger:
My personal feature request for 10.2
set a symbolic link each time a CD/DVD is inserted with /media/cdrom. The
link should always point to the last inserted CD/DVD.
So if you have two trays, the last one wins? Hardly a convincing
Am Montag, 21. August 2006 17:56 schrieb Stephan Kulow:
Am Montag, 21. August 2006 17:51 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger:
My personal feature request for 10.2
set a symbolic link each time a CD/DVD is inserted with /media/cdrom. The
link should always point to the last inserted CD/DVD.
So if
Am Montag, 21. August 2006 18:09 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger:
Am Montag, 21. August 2006 17:56 schrieb Stephan Kulow:
Am Montag, 21. August 2006 17:51 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger:
My personal feature request for 10.2
set a symbolic link each time a CD/DVD is inserted with /media/cdrom.
Hello,
Marcel Hilzinger schrieb:
set a symbolic link each time a CD/DVD is inserted with /media/cdrom. The
link
should always point to the last inserted CD/DVD.
/media/SUSE_LINUX_10.1
is cool, but its hard to work with CDs on command line and writing
documentation for Suse is also very
Am Montag, 21. August 2006 18:27 schrieb Tobias Burnus:
Hello,
Marcel Hilzinger schrieb:
set a symbolic link each time a CD/DVD is inserted with /media/cdrom. The
link should always point to the last inserted CD/DVD.
/media/SUSE_LINUX_10.1
is cool, but its hard to work with CDs on
Marcel Hilzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Am Montag, 21. August 2006 17:11 schrieben Sie:
[...]
I did not add Artwork, that's in the base for me.
Yes, but there are tonns of icon themes, window decos etc. Also the
screensaver modules are not mandatory. Some more fonts for a default install
Anders Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Here's an idea that I've been toying with for a long time now: How about a
SUSE-CORE that is really CORE? Something that contains only the bare
essentials of the system, such as glibc, kernel and a few other things. A
really barebones system.
We
Hi,
Arto Viitanen schrieb:
As I told about OpenSUSE 10.2 Alpha 2, it crashed the konsole (KDE terminal
emulator). I installed Alpha 3 (I tried to upgrade, but there was some
problems
on glibc.rpm), and konsole crashes still. Actually Alpha 3 seems to be
step to
worse, since Firefox crashes
Hi,
JP Rosevear schrieb:
I suspect the gnome-filesystem one isn't really required anymore
since /etc/profile.d/ is used by gnome to set ACLOCAL_FLAGS which is
respected by gnome-autogen. Stanislav could comment more accurately
though.
Doesn't suffice for me. Running autoreconf -fi on
I would like to change the default permissions for the sound devices and
the removable media. Right now (10.2 Alpha 3) the first user wins,
meaning whoever logs on first gets the exclusive rights on the devices.
Not very user friendly, except when you're the first one.
So I tried changing the
Yesterday I made a complete update in the actual 10.2 alpha 3, and
could'nt start the dsl connection, I got pppd died, options error 2.
If I try to reconfigure the dsl connection via yast, it closes when
reads the configuration. With the network card, yast closes again. I
downgrading dbus from
2006/8/21, Andreas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I would like to change the default permissions for the sound devices and
the removable media. Right now (10.2 Alpha 3) the first user wins,
meaning whoever logs on first gets the exclusive rights on the devices.
Not very user friendly, except when you're the
Juan Erbes wrote:
In /media I found the file .hal-mtab-lock,
Remove it and try again. It might be leftover of some crash.
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Did you try the Inkscape 0.44 package from guru? This works fine here!
Same problem. I do not think it is related to Inkscape, though I do not
have any GTK app handy that could have a font dialog that I know of.
Jan Engelhardt
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2006, Marcus Rueckert wrote:
smart broke your /usr/lib/rpm/gnupg/pubring.gpg*
delete the 2 files.
--verbose please!
Regards
Christoph
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I was accustomed to yast, but somehow I did not understand
the package management possibilities that came up with 10.1
- using additional package repositories
- using another tool apart from rpm or yast
...
Can you recommend a good intro into the subject?
Christophe
AFAIK, the additional package repositories were already supported before 10.1
and RPM is always used. You could also use a different package management
tool before 10.1, like apt-rpm for instance. So the most important new thing
in the YaST of 10.1 is the chance to use different types of
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I have still not seen a good explanation of how you should install SUSE
10.1 on the website.
Therefore I have put this up on the wiki in plain sight:
'''BEFORE YOU INSTALL READ THIS:'''
The package manager in SUSE 10.1 is regrettably broken on most systems.
To correct
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Hi!
I completely agree with Kenneth. I just had the pleasure to fix my
colleague's fresh from the DVD SuSE 10.1 install.
- From my impression, SuSE 10.1 is really just broken when freshly
installed, and that fact should be clearly stated on the
Kenneth Aar, Grafikern.no [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
WARNING: Long e-mail.
I have still not seen a good explanation of how you should install SUSE
10.1 on the website.
Therefore I have put this up on the wiki in plain sight:
'''BEFORE YOU INSTALL READ THIS:'''
The package manager in SUSE
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 01:14:46PM +0200, Kenneth Aar, Grafikern.no wrote:
WARNING: Long e-mail.
I have still not seen a good explanation of how you should install SUSE
10.1 on the website.
Therefore I have put this up on the wiki in plain sight:
'''BEFORE YOU INSTALL READ THIS:'''
Mandag 21 august 2006 13:36 skrev Marcus Meissner:
I added some better HOWTOs and killed the SMART reference.
Where?
I look here: http://en.opensuse.org/Download
There's still a Smart reference and no better howto.
Why does the howto refer to Zen-updater (updater icon on you taskbar/panel)?
Why does the howto refer to Zen-updater (updater icon on you
taskbar/panel)? And no reference to YOU? I was under the impression that
the way to patch a fresh install was with YOU.
On 10.1, I found it effective to uninstall zmd, zen-updater, mono, etc. Then
YaST and its online update module
Title: RE: [opensuse] Adressing SUSEs weakness
Why does the howto refer to Zen-updater (updater icon on you
taskbar/panel)? And no reference to YOU? I was under the impression that
the way to patch a fresh install was with YOU.
On 10.1, I found it effective to uninstall zmd,
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 03:46:41PM +0300, Dimitris Kalamaras wrote:
Why does the howto refer to Zen-updater (updater icon on you
taskbar/panel)? And no reference to YOU? I was under the impression that
the way to patch a fresh install was with YOU.
On 10.1, I found it effective
All of a sudden my system does not know what it is:
09:25 wahoo:~ uname -a
Linux wahoo 2.6.16.21-0.13-smp #1 SMP Mon Jul 17 17:22:44 UTC 2006 x86_64
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
09:29 wahoo:~ # hwinfo --cpu --short
cpu:
Hi,
Patrick Shanahan schrieb:
09:25 wahoo:~ # rpm -hiv
http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/suser-guru/rpm/packages/System/smart/smart-0.42-8.guru.suse101.x86_64.rpm
Retrieving
http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/suser-guru/rpm/packages/System/smart/smart-0.42-8.guru.suse101.x86_64.rpm
Preparing...
* Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-21-06 10:55]:
Patrick Shanahan schrieb:
09:25 wahoo:~ # rpm -hiv
http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/suser-guru/rpm/packages/System/smart/smart-0.42-8.guru.suse101.x86_64.rpm
Retrieving
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 02:22:08PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-21-06 10:55]:
Patrick Shanahan schrieb:
09:25 wahoo:~ # rpm -hiv
http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/suser-guru/rpm/packages/System/smart/smart-0.42-8.guru.suse101.x86_64.rpm
Retrieving
Hi,
Patrick Shanahan schrieb:
14:13 wahoo:~ # rpm -q --queryformat
'%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n' rpm
rpm-4.4.2-43.4.i586
rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64
Ouch. rpm itself is installed twice, once for i586 and once for x86_64.
That's what I suspected...
What you need in the end is that
* Michael Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-21-06 14:32]:
Ah, a user of 'smart'. Smart automatically installs all architectures
it can find for a package, effectively breaking them. Please
deinstall 'rpm.i586' and reinstall 'rpm.x86_64'.
tks, will report back.
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Andreas Hanke schrieb:
Usually I'd say uninstall both versions and reinstall the desired one,
but reinstalling rpm with rpm will be tricky.
's/rpm with rpm/rpm without rpm/'
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* Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-21-06 14:40]:
Andreas Hanke schrieb:
Usually I'd say uninstall both versions and reinstall the desired one,
but reinstalling rpm with rpm will be tricky.
's/rpm with rpm/rpm without rpm/'
yes, I have reached that problem. What next, manually copy
* Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-21-06 15:00]:
* Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-21-06 14:40]:
Andreas Hanke schrieb:
Usually I'd say uninstall both versions and reinstall the desired one,
but reinstalling rpm with rpm will be tricky.
's/rpm with rpm/rpm without rpm/'
Hi,
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-21-06 14:40]:
Andreas Hanke schrieb:
Usually I'd say uninstall both versions and reinstall the desired one,
but reinstalling rpm with rpm will be tricky.
's/rpm with rpm/rpm without rpm/'
yes, I have
* Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-21-06 15:03]:
* Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-21-06 15:00]:
* Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-21-06 14:40]:
Andreas Hanke schrieb:
Usually I'd say uninstall both versions and reinstall the desired one,
but reinstalling rpm with
Hi,
Patrick Shanahan schrieb:
yes, I have reached that problem. What next, manually copy files from
midnight commander to the correct locations ??
Now you have basically two choices:
1. Use a program or script that can unpack RPMs without using rpm.
2. Use the rescue system.
Try 1. first.
Patrick Shanahan schrieb:
made simlinks from:
/usr/lib64/librpm-4.4.so
/usr/lib64/librpmbuild-4.4.so
/usr/lib64/librpmdb-4.4.so
/usr/lib64/librpmio-4.4.so
to:
/usr/lib/librpm-4.4.so
/usr/lib/librpmbuild-4.4.so
/usr/lib/librpmdb-4.4.so
/usr/lib/librpmio-4.4.so
NO!
Never ever create
* Eberhard Moenkeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-21-06 15:14]:
Hi,
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-21-06 14:40]:
Andreas Hanke schrieb:
Usually I'd say uninstall both versions and reinstall the desired one,
but reinstalling rpm with rpm will
* Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-21-06 15:19]:
Patrick Shanahan schrieb:
made simlinks from:
/usr/lib64/librpm-4.4.so
/usr/lib64/librpmbuild-4.4.so
/usr/lib64/librpmdb-4.4.so
/usr/lib64/librpmio-4.4.so
to:
/usr/lib/librpm-4.4.so
/usr/lib/librpmbuild-4.4.so
* Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-21-06 15:16]:
Now download rpm.x86_64
http://download.uni-hd.de/ftp/pub/linux/suse/update/10.1/rpm/x86_64/rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64.rpm
and extract it somewhere (preferably an otherwise empty directory):
rpm2cpio.pl rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64.rpm | cpio -id
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 08:37:51PM +0200, Andreas Hanke wrote:
Hi,
Patrick Shanahan schrieb:
14:13 wahoo:~ # rpm -q --queryformat
'%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n' rpm
rpm-4.4.2-43.4.i586
rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64
Ouch. rpm itself is installed twice, once for i586 and once for
* Michael Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-21-06 15:27]:
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 08:37:51PM +0200, Andreas Hanke wrote:
Hi,
Patrick Shanahan schrieb:
14:13 wahoo:~ # rpm -q --queryformat
'%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n' rpm
rpm-4.4.2-43.4.i586
rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64
Filed as BUG #200704
Did somebody experience this problem too? I can' believe to be the only
one :-)
Text of filed report:
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On my installation of SuSE Linux 10.1, gaim segfaults upon startup.
Current Version of gaim installed: gaim-1.5.0-50 (from SuSE FTP Updates)
* Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-21-06 15:16]:
rpm2cpio.pl rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64.rpm | cpio -id
15:47 wahoo:~/work # rpm2cpio.pl ./rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64.rpm | cpio -id
Error: header not recognized
cpio: premature end of archive
guess I'll have to go the 'RESCUE' route.
be back soon
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Patrick Shanahan schrieb:
15:47 wahoo:~/work # rpm2cpio.pl ./rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64.rpm | cpio -id
Error: header not recognized
cpio: premature end of archive
I know. The script does not work. I should have checked that before.
guess I'll have to go the 'RESCUE' route.
Not if you can get
On 8/21/06, Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Patrick Shanahan schrieb: 15:47 wahoo:~/work # rpm2cpio.pl ./rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64.rpm | cpio -id Error: header not recognized cpio: premature end of archiveI know. The script does not work. I should have checked that before.
guess I'll have to
Hi,
Patrick Shanahan schrieb:
To install rpm, I opened the tarball in mc and copied each directory
across to the proper locations. Did that screw the system ??
No.
All I can think to do atm, is add a new user and then move my home
directory across ??
Try that. I guess that the problem is
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 09:47:11PM +0200, Andreas Hanke wrote:
Patrick Shanahan schrieb:
yes, but then rpm does not work.
I guess that it's because your /bin/rpm is still i586 and you've lost
your i586 shared libraries while doing rpm -e rpm.i586.
Hmm, this should work then:
rpm -e
On 2006-08-21 14:22:08 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
14:13 wahoo:~ # rpm -q --queryformat
'%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n' rpm
rpm-4.4.2-43.4.i586
rpm-4.4.2-43.4.x86_64
maybe another fuckup due the smart bug. :|
darix
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Hi,
Patrick Shanahan schrieb:
Possible, but I did not have the user/login problem before replacing
rpm.
Did you log out and log in between the transaction where rpm.i586 was
installed and the point where you fixed rpm manually? Copying the rpm
files manually cannot break the login. rpm
On 8/21/06, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/21/06, Andreas Hanke
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Try that. I guess that the problem is not caused by a particularaccount, but by something more general. But try it anyway.Actually I guess that whatever transaction caused rpm.i586 to
On 8/21/06, Eberhard Moenkeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You should see something in /var/log/messages.
attempting to su from root to pat show the attempt but no error or
other message other than an attempt
nothing shows from attempting logins to X.
tks,
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I am haveing logon problems and believe that I may have found the
problem, permissions for home directory.
I have:
drwxr-xr-x+ 84 pat users 8192 Aug 21 16:56 pat
^
What does the '+' (plus) indicate above and how may I clear it, if that
is indeed my problem. Many of the files below
On Monday 21 August 2006 22:30, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
I am haveing logon problems and believe that I may have found the
problem, permissions for home directory.
I have:
drwxr-xr-x+ 84 pat users 8192 Aug 21 16:56 pat
^
What does the '+' (plus) indicate above and how may I clear
On Monday 21 August 2006 23:48, Robert Schiele wrote:
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 11:21:56PM -0400, Carl Hartung wrote:
On Monday 21 August 2006 22:30, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
I am haveing logon problems and believe that I may have found the
problem, permissions for home directory.
I
Hello!
On 8/20/06, Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Pascal Bleser schrieb:
Until that issue is solved (I guess it's a problem with the RPM that is
unsigned):
smart config --set rpm-check-signatures=False
I will try this what Pascal wrote. Thanks.
(I know that signatures would be
Hey,
I am one of the organizers of http://foss.in , India's biggest
free and open source events. For the event site we would very
much like to re-use the media wiki skin being used on
http://opensuse.org.
Is the skin copyrighted to someone (Novell?) or owned by someone
in the community. We
On 2006-08-21 19:24:04 +0530, Shreyas Srinivasan wrote:
I am one of the organizers of http://foss.in , India's biggest
free and open source events. For the event site we would very
much like to re-use the media wiki skin being used on
http://opensuse.org.
Is the skin copyrighted to
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 17:11 +0200, Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
On Monday 21 August 2006 17:02, Shreyas Srinivasan wrote:
Hi,
Thanks, for the response. If there is no issue with the copy right
then we would like to look at the skin and modify it accordingly.
Needless to say as an event
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