[opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-16 Thread Alexey Eremenko
hi all ! I'm thinking - would it be possible to install openSUSE on NTFS partition, to prevent repartitioning, so more Windows users will be able to try out SUSE Linux ? Currently we install (via instlux) the GRUB bootloader, which is loaded from NTLDR, which then starts Linux kernel, then it op

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-16 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 00:28 +0300, Alexey Eremenko wrote: > hi all ! > > I'm thinking - would it be possible to install openSUSE on NTFS > partition, to prevent repartitioning, so more Windows users will be > able to try out SUSE Linux ? > Why? What is it that you find so fascinating with NTFS t

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-16 Thread Alexey Eremenko
Hi Ken Schneider read: The primary advantage to this technology is no need to repartition a hard drive at all. A very welcome feature to win-noobs alike. -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-16 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 16 June 2007 14:49, Alexey Eremenko wrote: > Hi Ken Schneider > > read: > > The primary advantage to this technology is no need to repartition a > hard drive at all. A very welcome feature to win-noobs alike. The partition structure is independent of the type of file system created on

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-16 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 00:49 +0300, Alexey Eremenko wrote: > Hi Ken Schneider > > read: > > The primary advantage to this technology is no need to repartition a > hard drive at all. A very welcome feature to win-noobs alike. > No need to repartition anyway, just format with ext3. Besides there m

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-16 Thread Alexey Eremenko
Hi Randall Schulz ! Randall wrote: The partition structure is independent of the type of file system created on those partitions. I.e., it is not necessary to repartition a drive (that's already partitioned) in order to install Linux. It may be unnecessary to repartition on Linux-ready system,

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-16 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 01:23 +0300, Alexey Eremenko wrote: > Hi Randall Schulz ! > > Randall wrote: > > The partition structure is independent of the type of file system > > created on those partitions. I.e., it is not necessary to repartition a > > drive (that's already partitioned) in order to in

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-16 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 16 June 2007 15:23, Alexey Eremenko wrote: > Hi Randall Schulz ! > > Randall wrote: > > The partition structure is independent of the type of file system > > created on those partitions. I.e., it is not necessary to > > repartition a drive (that's already partitioned) in order to > > in

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-16 Thread Alexey Eremenko
On 6/17/07, Kenneth Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is a resize function within the install process to resize the single partition without having to reload windows and then linux. That is it's purpose, to give you a partition to install on. Yes, but this answer brings us back to the

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-16 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 16 June 2007 15:42, Alexey Eremenko wrote: > ... > > I see my idea as an extension to Instlux concept, that can bring > ease-of-use further. Go for it. Let us know what you come up with. > -- > -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-16 Thread jfweber
On Sat June 16 2007 6:23 pm, Alexey Eremenko scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: > Hi Randall Schulz ! > > Randall wrote: > > The partition structure is independent of the type of file system > > created on those partitions. I.e., it is not necessary to > > repartitio

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-16 Thread jfweber
On Sat June 16 2007 6:42 pm, Alexey Eremenko scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: > On 6/17/07, Kenneth Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is a resize function within the install process to resize the > > single partition without having to reload windows an

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-17 Thread G T Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Randall R Schulz wrote: > On Saturday 16 June 2007 14:49, Alexey Eremenko wrote: >> Hi Ken Schneider >> >> read: >> >> The primary advantage to this technology is no need to repartition a >> hard drive at all. A very welcome feature to win-noobs alike.

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-17 Thread Mark Goldstein
On 6/17/07, G T Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The concept of having a Linux on the same File System as Windows is not new (it used to be an option with some distros). However where you start hitting issues is with fundamental incompatibilities in how the two OSs describe files and some basic f

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-17 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Sunday 17 June 2007 01:13, G T Smith wrote: > Randall R Schulz wrote: > > ... > > The concept of having a Linux on the same File System as Windows is > not new (it used to be an option with some distros). However where > you start hitting issues is with fundamental incompatibilities in how > the

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-17 Thread G T Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Randall R Schulz wrote: > On Sunday 17 June 2007 01:13, G T Smith wrote: >> Randall R Schulz wrote: >>> ... > > Windows software tends to assume text files (e.g.) are in its format. > Much Linux software tolerates any of the three extant formats. B

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-17 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Sunday 17 June 2007 09:39, G T Smith wrote: > Randall R Schulz wrote: > > On Sunday 17 June 2007 01:13, G T Smith wrote: > ... > > However, as another poster pointed out one is leaving the Linux side > fully open to Windows (in)security... I'm pretty doubtful about that. In all likelihood, the

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-17 Thread S Glasoe
On Saturday June 16 2007 4:28:00 pm Alexey Eremenko wrote: > hi all ! > > I'm thinking - would it be possible to install openSUSE on NTFS > partition, to prevent repartitioning, so more Windows users will be > able to try out SUSE Linux ? #1 reason this won't happen anytime soon is because Microso

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-17 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Sunday 17 June 2007 16:19, S Glasoe wrote: > On Saturday June 16 2007 4:28:00 pm Alexey Eremenko wrote: > > hi all ! > > > > I'm thinking - would it be possible to install openSUSE on NTFS > > partition, to prevent repartitioning, so more Windows users will be > > able to try out SUSE Linux ? >

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-17 Thread Alexey Eremenko
#1 reason this won't happen anytime soon is because Microsoft does _not_ publish the specifications for NTFS and would only share them with companies that are willing to pay extremely large amounts of money on a continuing basis with all kinds of Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDAs) in place. These co

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-18 Thread Jordi Massaguer i Pla
It looks like a good idea. Open a feature request at the instlux-sourceforge site. thanks, jordi El dom, 17-06-2007 a las 01:42 +0300, Alexey Eremenko escribió: > On 6/17/07, Kenneth Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is a resize function within the install process to resize the > >

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-18 Thread Jordi Massaguer i Pla
or write an implementation and submit it as a patch :) jordi El lun, 18-06-2007 a las 11:49 +0200, Jordi Massaguer i Pla escribió: > It looks like a good idea. Open a feature request at the > instlux-sourceforge site. > > thanks, > > jordi > > El dom, 17-06-2007 a las 01:42 +0300, Alexey Ereme

Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

2007-06-18 Thread Charles Obler
--- Mark Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/17/07, G T Smith > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The concept of having a Linux on the same File > System as Windows is not > > new (it used to be an option with some distros). > However where you start > > hitting issues is with fundamental >