peter wrote:
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Marcus Meissner schrieb:
| What you /probably/ mean is that you updated either the kernel, or
| some part of the X system, and now it won't run the X server.
| You're probably correct. The update was automatic and labeled as
|
On Friday 25 January 2008 10:44:07 D Henson wrote:
I now get no display at all, not even the stuff you normally get when
you boot the system. Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't any PC
monitor display that stuff, regardless of whether or not a driver is
installed? All that I do get is No VGA
I apologize for not responding to some of you but the symptoms have
changed. I'll get to that in a moment. First, I want to clear up some
apparently mistaken assumptions about me and my system.
From some of the comments, it appears that many of you think I'm a
professional system
On Friday 25 January 2008 10:44:07 am D Henson wrote:
I now get no display at all, not even the stuff you normally get when
you boot the system. Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't any PC
monitor display that stuff, regardless of whether or not a driver is
installed? All that I do get is No
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 05:36:32PM -0500, Mike wrote:
On Wednesday 23 January 2008, Marcus Meissner wrote:
It should not have (and likely has not) overwritten anything.
BTW, the conflict with the NVIDIA driver was reported last week in the
discussion of bug 354615...
If this is a manually
D Henson wrote:
The latest mandatory update appears to have killed my server. After
running the update, as I have done dozens of times, the server stopped
responding to mouse and keyboard input. Ah, xserver problem, thought I.
Ctrl-alt-backspace. Now I'm looking at the system console @, I
D Henson wrote:
Jonathan Wilson wrote:
On Wednesday 23 January 2008 10:22:48 D Henson wrote:
The latest mandatory update appears to have killed my server.
No, it didn't - at least not if you mean it killed your whole system.
What you /probably/ mean is that you updated either the kernel, or
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 01:45:21PM -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
D Henson wrote:
Jonathan Wilson wrote:
On Wednesday 23 January 2008 10:22:48 D Henson wrote:
The latest mandatory update appears to have killed my server.
No, it didn't - at least not if you mean it killed your whole system.
Maybe the subject of this thread should change - looking at my inbox, it looks
like there's some kind of opensuse explosion happening, which is misleading.
Lincoln Rutledge
Network Engineer
OSC Networking
800-627-6420
Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/23/08 6:06 PM
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Marcus Meissner schrieb:
| What you /probably/ mean is that you updated either the kernel, or
| some part of the X system, and now it won't run the X server.
| You're probably correct. The update was automatic and labeled as
|
peter wrote:
Marcus Meissner schrieb:
For my part, this trouble was just an unnecessarily waisted spare time.
Thus IMO the easiest way would be to inform the common user of critical
issues and not to reproach him with trusting mandatory updates.
But as always I might be wrong...
No, I
On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 11:02:20AM -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:
peter wrote:
Marcus Meissner schrieb:
For my part, this trouble was just an unnecessarily waisted spare time.
Thus IMO the easiest way would be to inform the common user of critical
issues and not to reproach him with trusting
On Thursday 24 January 2008 09:54:28 peter wrote:
Marcus Meissner schrieb:
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| Trying to do everything the easy way is what got you in trouble.
Isn't it what computers suppose to do? Easier our lives?
Supposed to? yes, but in case you haven't noticed, it hasn't happened yet :-D
If you want
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Marcus Meissner schrieb:
| However for NVIDIA and ATI they both make it easy with YUM repositories
| to add, which likely would have avoided this problem.
This is also very kind of them, but still it doesn't solve the X-Server
issue if
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Jonathan Wilson schrieb:
| Supposed to? yes, but in case you haven't noticed, it hasn't happened
yet :-D
| If you want to be as mindlessly trouble-free as possible try Mac OS X
or QNX.
I like your attitude, but don't be surprised if some folks
On Thursday 24 January 2008 07:11:58 am Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 11:02:20AM -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:
peter wrote:
Marcus Meissner schrieb:
For my part, this trouble was just an unnecessarily waisted spare time.
Thus IMO the easiest way would be to inform the
On Thursday 24 January 2008 12:39:51 you wrote:
Jonathan Wilson schrieb:
Supposed to? yes, but in case you haven't noticed, it hasn't happened
yet :-D
snip
My post was also meant just as a thought and not as a particular request.
snip
Ok I'm out of it. I've said what I had to say...and to
The latest mandatory update appears to have killed my server. After
running the update, as I have done dozens of times, the server stopped
responding to mouse and keyboard input. Ah, xserver problem, thought I.
Ctrl-alt-backspace. Now I'm looking at the system console @, I think,
runlevel 5. I
On Wednesday 23 January 2008 10:22:48 D Henson wrote:
The latest mandatory update appears to have killed my server.
No, it didn't - at least not if you mean it killed your whole system.
What you /probably/ mean is that you updated either the kernel, or some part
of the X system, and now it
On Wednesday 23 January 2008 11:22:48 am D Henson wrote:
The latest mandatory update appears to have killed my server. After
running the update, as I have done dozens of times, the server stopped
responding to mouse and keyboard input. Ah, xserver problem, thought I.
Ctrl-alt-backspace. Now
Jonathan Wilson wrote:
On Wednesday 23 January 2008 10:22:48 D Henson wrote:
The latest mandatory update appears to have killed my server.
No, it didn't - at least not if you mean it killed your whole system.
What you /probably/ mean is that you updated either the kernel, or some part
of
D Henson wrote:
You're probably correct. The update was automatic and labeled as
mandatory. I don't know what was updated. I don't even know how to
find that out.
rpm -qa --last | less (it may take some minutes for output to appear)
The video card is an Nvidia Geforce 2. (Pretty old)
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The Wednesday 2008-01-23 at 13:13 -0500, ka1ifq wrote:
This mornings 'update' was a suggested update for a security reason.
Updates are suggested but never 'manditory' as you don't 'have' to
update,
your choice, I think you can
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The Wednesday 2008-01-23 at 11:19 -0700, D Henson wrote:
You're probably correct. The update was automatic and labeled as mandatory. I
don't know what was updated. I don't even know how to find that out.
For instance:
rpm -q -a --queryformat
ka1ifq wrote:
On Wednesday 23 January 2008 11:22:48 am D Henson wrote:
The latest mandatory update appears to have killed my server. After
running the update, as I have done dozens of times, the server stopped
responding to mouse and keyboard input. Ah, xserver problem, thought I.
On Jan 23, 2008 1:54 PM, D Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's already been brought to my attention that the update did not kill
my server (the machine). It merely caused my xserver to quit.
Please provide your xorg log file, its in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
Cheers
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D Henson wrote:
If your 'server' is critical you should test updates on a similar
system before you commit to something so critical.
Good advice. Now where did I put that similar system? :-)
Try vmware or virtualbox. Exactly for that reason we have a test installation
of our oracle
On Wednesday 23 January 2008, D Henson wrote:
The latest mandatory update appears to have killed my server. After
On my system, today's xorg update overwrote parts of the NVIDIA closed source
driver. If you are using that driver the easiest solution is to boot into
safe mode and reinstall it.
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 04:41:12PM -0500, Mike wrote:
On Wednesday 23 January 2008, D Henson wrote:
The latest mandatory update appears to have killed my server. After
On my system, today's xorg update overwrote parts of the NVIDIA closed source
driver. If you are using that driver the
On Wednesday 23 January 2008, you wrote:
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 04:41:12PM -0500, Mike wrote:
On Wednesday 23 January 2008, D Henson wrote:
The latest mandatory update appears to have killed my server. After
On my system, today's xorg update overwrote parts of the NVIDIA closed
source
I'm going to be out-of-pocket for a few hours. I'll evaluate/try each of
your suggestions plus a couple of my own ideas as soon as I get back and
after a bit of sleep. Thanks for all your help.
Don Henson
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On Wednesday 23 January 2008, Marcus Meissner wrote:
It should not have (and likely has not) overwritten anything.
BTW, the conflict with the NVIDIA driver was reported last week in the
discussion of bug 354615...
mike.
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The Wednesday 2008-01-23 at 12:54 -0700, D Henson wrote:
When I click on the update icon, it tells me that I have 'x mandatory
updates' and 'x other updates'. I realize that you don't 'have' to do
the updates but how do I know, or find out, what
On Thursday 24 January 2008 05:00:45 Sloan wrote:
D Henson wrote:
You're probably correct. The update was automatic and labeled as
mandatory. I don't know what was updated. I don't even know how to
find that out.
rpm -qa --last | less (it may take some minutes for output to appear)
The
On Thursday 24 January 2008 09:01:49 Mike wrote:
On Wednesday 23 January 2008, you wrote:
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 04:41:12PM -0500, Mike wrote:
On Wednesday 23 January 2008, D Henson wrote:
The latest mandatory update appears to have killed my server. After
On my system, today's
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