Re: [opensuse-factory] factory

2006-03-31 Thread Peter Czanik
Hello, Andreas Jaeger wrote: What is the current status of factory? Is it now: factory = beta9 and frozen until Monday? Bye, A final sync is needed :-( Does that mean, that some Radeon and PPC fixes can slip in? I was sad to see, that they are still not in the factory ChangeLog... Bye,

Re: [opensuse-factory] updating factory

2006-03-31 Thread jdd
Pascal Bleser wrote: > Doing it the proper way is a pain in yast2 btw: select categories, go to > "zzz", and choose "update all" (or something like that). That's not very > intuitive. I don't know if it's really the same discussion... I can open a new thread if you think so :-) but there are alw

Re: [opensuse-factory] factory

2006-03-31 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Peter Czanik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, > > Andreas Jaeger wrote: >>> What is the current status of factory? Is it now: factory = beta9 and >>> frozen until Monday? Bye, >>> >> A final sync is needed :-( >> > Does that mean, that some Radeon and PPC fixes can slip in? I was sad > to see,

Re: [opensuse-factory] updating factory

2006-03-31 Thread Pascal Bleser
jdd wrote: Pascal Bleser wrote: Doing it the proper way is a pain in yast2 btw: select categories, go to "zzz", and choose "update all" (or something like that). That's not very intuitive. I don't know if it's really the same discussion... I can open a new thread if you think so :-) but there

Re: [opensuse-factory] factory

2006-03-31 Thread Peter Czanik
Hello, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > No, it should be just libzypp-zmd-backend, suseRegister, > installation-images and yast*, > When is it to be expected? I would like to make an install from factory on a test server, and I'm just arrived at the location... Bye, CzP ---

Re: [opensuse-factory] factory

2006-03-31 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Peter Czanik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, > > Andreas Jaeger wrote: >> No, it should be just libzypp-zmd-backend, suseRegister, >> installation-images and yast*, >> > When is it to be expected? I would like to make an install from factory > on a test server, and I'm just arrived at the

Re: [opensuse-factory] factory

2006-03-31 Thread Peter Czanik
Hello, Andreas Jaeger wrote: >> When is it to be expected? I would like to make an install from factory >> on a test server, and I'm just arrived at the location... >> > > You can go ahead and start right away, everything is working besides > registration (repository setup for patches). >

Re: [opensuse-factory] updating factory

2006-03-31 Thread houghi
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 12:19:32PM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: > - YOU: online updates: packages provided by SUSE to fix security > issues and sometimes severe bug fixes. No feature upgrades, only for > security fixes. > - update: well... that's what is kind of missing in yast2 (to do it, > it's

Re: [opensuse-factory] updating factory

2006-03-31 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 12:56:23PM +0200, houghi wrote: > On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 12:19:32PM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: > > - YOU: online updates: packages provided by SUSE to fix security > > issues and sometimes severe bug fixes. No feature upgrades, only for > > security fixes. > > - update:

Re: [opensuse-factory] factory

2006-03-31 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Peter Czanik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, > > Andreas Jaeger wrote: >>> When is it to be expected? I would like to make an install from factory >>> on a test server, and I'm just arrived at the location... >>> >> >> You can go ahead and start right away, everything is working besides

Re: [opensuse-factory] updating factory

2006-03-31 Thread Ulrich Windl
On 31 Mar 2006 at 12:56, houghi wrote: [...] > Concerning updates: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. On Usenet I always > ask the question WHY people do a certain update (e.g. aa KDE update) and > in about 90% that an answer is given, people don't know. Also most people > do not know that when they

Re: [opensuse-factory] factory

2006-03-31 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Peter Czanik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Hello, >> >> Andreas Jaeger wrote: When is it to be expected? I would like to make an install from factory on a test server, and I'm just arrived at the location... >>> >>> You can go ahe

Re: [opensuse-factory] updating factory

2006-03-31 Thread houghi
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 01:19:02PM +0200, Ulrich Windl wrote: > Occasionally I think: "It can only become better" (reason for upgrade) The golden rule is still: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. It can only become better" is wrong, because there is a second option to becoming better. It can become

[opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd broken for beta9

2006-03-31 Thread Azerion
Seems like makeSUSEdvd is broken in combination with beta9. The md5sums of the iso's are okey. When I wanted to install it reported that it could not found the packages. So I makeSUSEdvd-ed again and tried with y2pmsh. That one reports this: source -a /setup/beta9repo failed to detect sources

[opensuse-factory] Re: makeSUSEdvd broken for beta9

2006-03-31 Thread Azerion
Sorry, I wasn't root. Now y2pmsh does work. Will do another install-try. ps. Why can you start y2pmsh when you are no root? You can start it but you cannot use it, so why not a root-check? Azerion - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAI

Re: [opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd broken for beta9

2006-03-31 Thread houghi
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 02:04:24PM +0200, Azerion wrote: > Seems like makeSUSEdvd is broken in combination with beta9. The md5sums of > the iso's are okey. When I wanted to install it reported that it could not > found the packages. So I makeSUSEdvd-ed again and tried with y2pmsh. As Beta9 is n

Re: [opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd broken for beta9

2006-03-31 Thread houghi
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 02:38:16PM +0200, houghi wrote: > On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 02:04:24PM +0200, Azerion wrote: > > Seems like makeSUSEdvd is broken in combination with beta9. The md5sums of > > the iso's are okey. When I wanted to install it reported that it could not > > found the packages.

Re: [opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd broken for beta9

2006-03-31 Thread Andreas Jaeger
houghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 02:04:24PM +0200, Azerion wrote: >> Seems like makeSUSEdvd is broken in combination with beta9. The md5sums of >> the iso's are okey. When I wanted to install it reported that it could not >> found the packages. So I makeSUSEdvd-ed ag

Re: [opensuse-factory] updating factory

2006-03-31 Thread jdd
Pascal Bleser wrote: > - YOU: online updates: packages provided by SUSE to fix security issues > and sometimes severe bug fixes. No feature upgrades, only for security > fixes. wrong :-( YOU have * security (red in the YOU window) * recommanded (blue) * optional (not selected by default) so...

Re: [opensuse-factory] updating factory

2006-03-31 Thread jdd
houghi wrote: > Concerning updates: If it ain't broke, don't fix it right now I use: *mediawiki. security update any 15 days strongly recommended by the developper *digikam: many many changes nearly each day :-) compiled from svn :-) *kdenlive: not even able to run properly, stable expected for

Re: [opensuse-factory] updating factory

2006-03-31 Thread jdd
jdd wrote: > except for mediawiki _opensuse_ is severely in danger > (1.5.6, last security 1.5.8, 1.6 due next week) quotes from the dev list: 1.5.6!? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING RUNNING SOFTWARE THAT OLD? UPGRADE, > MAN! so, Novell, upgrade, please :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dod

[opensuse-factory] Beta9 Minimal Install

2006-03-31 Thread Chad Groneman
Hi, >From AJ's announcement: > The distribution comes with 5 CDs. You need: > * CD1 only for a minimal text installation (English) > * CDs 1-3 for a default KDE or GNOME installation in German or English > * All CDs for other selections I just did an i386 minimal text install, it took approx 45

Re: [opensuse-factory] updating factory

2006-03-31 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/03/29 10:37 Henne Vogelsang apparently typed: > On Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 10:33:50, Felix Miata wrote: >> I've been running Mandriva devel (Cooker) for several years. Last week I >> installed factory from ftp. Now I want to update. This was a simple 2 >> step process in Cooker: 1-urpm

Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta9 Minimal Install

2006-03-31 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Chad Groneman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > >>From AJ's announcement: > >> The distribution comes with 5 CDs. You need: >> * CD1 only for a minimal text installation (English) >> * CDs 1-3 for a default KDE or GNOME installation in German or English >> * All CDs for other selections > > I j

Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta9 Minimal Install

2006-03-31 Thread Martin Schlander
On Friday 31 March 2006 16:50, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > Chad Groneman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> The distribution comes with 5 CDs. You need: > >> * CD1 only for a minimal text installation (English) > >> * CDs 1-3 for a default KDE or GNOME installation in German or English > >> * All CDs fo

Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta9 Minimal Install

2006-03-31 Thread jdd
Andreas Jaeger wrote: > Chad Groneman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Hi, >> >> >From AJ's announcement: >> >>> The distribution comes with 5 CDs. You need: >>> * CD1 only for a minimal text installation (English) >>> * CDs 1-3 for a default KDE or GNOME installation in German or English >>> * A

Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta9 Minimal Install

2006-03-31 Thread jdd
Martin Schlander wrote: > How about the minimal graphical install? It's not mentioned in the above > layout. How many cds should be needed? is "super" abandoned? it's exactly that jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.

Re: [opensuse-factory] updating factory

2006-03-31 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello, Am Freitag, 31. März 2006 09:35 schrieb Pascal Bleser: > I agree, it would better be called "system upgrade" > [...] > and... it will force the reinstallation of the kernel. Known bug - and fixed in 10.1: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=117461 Regards, Christian Boltz --

Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta9 Minimal Install

2006-03-31 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Martin Schlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Friday 31 March 2006 16:50, Andreas Jaeger wrote: >> Chad Groneman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> The distribution comes with 5 CDs. You need: >> >> * CD1 only for a minimal text installation (English) >> >> * CDs 1-3 for a default KDE or GNOME

Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta9 Minimal Install

2006-03-31 Thread Martin Schlander
On Friday 31 March 2006 17:55, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > > It would be nice if all the packages for minimal > > graphical install could also be fitted on cd1. > > We cannot make everybody happy - there are too many different > constraints. No problem, just liked to know if it was intended. As long a

Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta9 Minimal Install

2006-03-31 Thread jdd
Andreas Jaeger wrote: > We cannot make everybody happy - there are too many different > constraints, of course, we can :-) http://en.opensuse.org/SUPER was quite sleeping :-( but recently there was an update, I will see if it's better jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_phot

Re: [opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd broken for beta9

2006-03-31 Thread houghi
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 03:29:00PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > The problem might come from the fact that we now sign the repository > data to gurantee integrity of the complete repository/media and > Houghi's script might not do so. The signing should be optional... I see the following happeni

[opensuse-factory] minimal install don't install

2006-03-31 Thread jdd
I try to install my extremely lowend laptop :-). from cd, no luck, extremely slow. I could copy the cd (beta 8) on the hard drive and boot from there, with an acceptable speed. I choose minimal text install; problems: a manual install was required. *first for a dependency problem. libX11.so.6

Re: [opensuse-factory] minimal install don't install

2006-03-31 Thread Chad Groneman
On Fri, 2006-03-31 at 22:00 +0200, jdd wrote: > I try to install my extremely lowend laptop :-). > > from cd, no luck, extremely slow. > > I could copy the cd (beta 8) on the hard drive and boot from > there, with an acceptable speed. > > I choose minimal text install; > > problems: > > a manu

Re: [opensuse-factory] minimal install don't install

2006-03-31 Thread jdd
Chad Groneman wrote: > My bet is this is because of the mono components needed to do the > install. ?? jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --

Re: [opensuse-factory] minimal install don't install

2006-03-31 Thread Chad Groneman
On Fri, 2006-03-31 at 22:27 +0200, jdd wrote: > Chad Groneman wrote: > > > My bet is this is because of the mono components needed to do the > > install. > > ?? > > jdd > I seem to recall seeing that the package manager in 10.1 is ZLM based. ZLM runs on mono. If you go out to the console duri

Re: [opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd broken for beta9

2006-03-31 Thread houghi
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 07:07:54PM +0200, houghi wrote: > What causes this and how can I get rid of it? At this moment makeSUSEdvd > can not add the non-OSS CD to the ISO. Well, it can, but then you can not > install. Screenshot at http://houghi.org/shots/susescreen009.jpg It is worse then I thoug

Re: [opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd broken for beta9

2006-03-31 Thread David Bolt
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, houghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:- >On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 07:07:54PM +0200, houghi wrote: >> What causes this and how can I get rid of it? At this moment makeSUSEdvd >> can not add the non-OSS CD to the ISO. Well, it can, but then you can not >> install. Screenshot at http:/

[opensuse-factory] ftp install can't find package data

2006-03-31 Thread Felix Miata
I tried 3 times today on two mirrors, mirrors.kernel.org, & ftp.cise.ufl.edu. Each time it failed with: "Cannot read package data from installation media. Media error?" This looks rather like the other thread today about "makeSUSEdvd broken for beta9". -- "Blessed are they whose ways are blameless

[opensuse-factory] Package Sugestions and Driver request for SUSE 10.1

2006-03-31 Thread Nathaniel Dube
First off, package request. There is a neat program called xtraceroute. It's pretty much eye candy for traceroute but I would like to see it come with SUSE 10.1 This program was once in SUSE 9.1 I would also like to see MythTV come with SUSE 10.1. I have future plans to build a home theater

Re: [opensuse-factory] Package Sugestions and Driver request for SUSE 10.1

2006-03-31 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
Hi, Nathaniel Dube schrieb: > First off, package request. There is a neat program called xtraceroute Add it to http://en.opensuse.org/Wishlist_Network > I would also like to see MythTV Already at http://en.opensuse.org/Wishlist_Packages_that_were_already_there > Recently I've come to noticed

[opensuse-factory] dependencies: single-click

2006-03-31 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, I am just trying to upgrade beta8 to beta9. My crux is: I have to click each single dependency conflict without seeing the total situation. My guess is: impossible. BLOCKER! Beware to ask back, I will immediately shoot all I have. Incredible! It ducks the user to a stupid child. Cheers -

Re: [opensuse-factory] dependencies: single-click

2006-03-31 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: I am just trying to upgrade beta8 to beta9. My crux is: I have to click each single dependency conflict without seeing the total situation. My guess is: impossible. BLOCKER! Beware to ask back, I will immediately shoot all I have. Incredibl

Re: [opensuse-factory] dependencies: single-click

2006-03-31 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
Eberhard Moenkeberg schrieb: > Back to the former state! Go to sleep, Eberhard. And use y2pmsh when you wake up again. Hint: Going from beta3 to factory with y2pmsh works. Good night! Carl-Daniel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd broken for beta9

2006-03-31 Thread Jan Karjalainen
David Bolt wrote: On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, houghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:- On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 07:07:54PM +0200, houghi wrote: What causes this and how can I get rid of it? At this moment makeSUSEdvd can not add the non-OSS CD to the ISO. Well, it can, but then you can not install.

Re: [opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd broken for beta9

2006-03-31 Thread houghi
On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 12:18:04AM +0100, David Bolt wrote: > There must be a subtle difference between how your script builds the DVD > image to how my script does it. I'm installing beta9 now after adding > building a DVD with CDs 1-6 and I've not been asked to insert CD1. > > If you're interest