Re: [opensuse-factory] permissions for sound, dvd, etc

2006-08-21 Thread Rajko M
Juan Erbes wrote: > In /media I found the file .hal-mtab-lock, Remove it and try again. It might be leftover of some crash. -- Regards, Rajko. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [opensuse-factory] permissions for sound, dvd, etc

2006-08-21 Thread Juan Erbes
2006/8/21, Andreas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I would like to change the default permissions for the sound devices and the removable media. Right now (10.2 Alpha 3) the first user wins, meaning whoever logs on first gets the exclusive rights on the devices. Not very user friendly, except when you're th

Re: [opensuse-factory] Fwd: Network and yast fails after the last update

2006-08-21 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Juan Erbes wrote: Yesterday I made a complete update in the actual 10.2 alpha 3, and could'nt start the dsl connection, I got "pppd died, options error 2". If I try to reconfigure the dsl connection via yast, it closes when reads the configuration. With the network card

[opensuse-factory] Fwd: Network and yast fails after the last update

2006-08-21 Thread Juan Erbes
Yesterday I made a complete update in the actual 10.2 alpha 3, and could'nt start the dsl connection, I got "pppd died, options error 2". If I try to reconfigure the dsl connection via yast, it closes when reads the configuration. With the network card, yast closes again. I downgrading dbus from *

[opensuse-factory] permissions for sound, dvd, etc

2006-08-21 Thread Andreas
I would like to change the default permissions for the sound devices and the removable media. Right now (10.2 Alpha 3) the first user wins, meaning whoever logs on first gets the exclusive rights on the devices. Not very user friendly, except when you're the first one. So I tried changing the r

Re: [opensuse-factory] SuSEconfig clearance: SuSEconfig.automake

2006-08-21 Thread JP Rosevear
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 20:42 +0200, Andreas Hanke wrote: > Hi, > > JP Rosevear schrieb: > > I suspect the gnome-filesystem one isn't really required anymore > > since /etc/profile.d/ is used by gnome to set ACLOCAL_FLAGS which is > > respected by gnome-autogen. Stanislav could comment more accurat

Re: [opensuse-factory] SuSEconfig clearance: SuSEconfig.automake

2006-08-21 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, JP Rosevear schrieb: > I suspect the gnome-filesystem one isn't really required anymore > since /etc/profile.d/ is used by gnome to set ACLOCAL_FLAGS which is > respected by gnome-autogen. Stanislav could comment more accurately > though. Doesn't suffice for me. Running "autoreconf -fi" on i

Re: [opensuse-factory] SuSEconfig clearance: SuSEconfig.automake

2006-08-21 Thread JP Rosevear
On Fri, 2006-08-18 at 13:35 +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote: > Hi everyone, > > we are in the process of going through all SuSEconfig scripts to assess > their value/impact and to analyze different ways of solving the problems > those SuSEconfig scripts address. In many case SuSEconfig.* scripts turn

Re: [opensuse-factory] Konsole crash

2006-08-21 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, Arto Viitanen schrieb: > As I told about OpenSUSE 10.2 Alpha 2, it crashed the konsole (KDE terminal > emulator). I installed Alpha 3 (I tried to upgrade, but there was some > problems > on glibc.rpm), and konsole crashes still. Actually Alpha 3 seems to be > step to > worse, since Firefox cra

Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: new discussion on what kind of patterns we should have

2006-08-21 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Anders Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here's an idea that I've been toying with for a long time now: How about a > SUSE-CORE that is really CORE? Something that contains only the bare > essentials of the system, such as glibc, kernel and a few other things. A > really barebones system.

[opensuse-factory] Konsole crash

2006-08-21 Thread Arto Viitanen
As I told about OpenSUSE 10.2 Alpha 2, it crashed the konsole (KDE terminal emulator). I installed Alpha 3 (I tried to upgrade, but there was some problems on glibc.rpm), and konsole crashes still. Actually Alpha 3 seems to be step to worse, since Firefox crashes also. Also automount (of my ext

Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: new discussion on what kind of patterns we should have

2006-08-21 Thread Anders Johansson
On Monday 21 August 2006 14:48, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > I added for now - and did this only for KDE, GNOME will come later - a > generic KDE desktop pattern and a few sub patterns: > * KDE-BASIS > * KDE-Devel > * KDE-Edutainment > * KDE-Games > * KDE-Help > * KDE-IMAGE > * KDE-Internet > * KDE-Mult

Re: [opensuse-factory] Symbolic link /media/cdrom

2006-08-21 Thread JP Rosevear
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 18:33 +0200, Marcel Hilzinger wrote: > Am Montag, 21. August 2006 18:27 schrieb Tobias Burnus: > > Hello, > > > > Marcel Hilzinger schrieb: > > > set a symbolic link each time a CD/DVD is inserted with /media/cdrom. The > > > link should always point to the last inserted CD/DV

Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: new discussion on what kind of patterns we should have

2006-08-21 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Marcel Hilzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Montag, 21. August 2006 17:11 schrieben Sie: >> [...] >> I did not add Artwork, that's in the base for me. > Yes, but there are tonns of icon themes, window decos etc. Also the > screensaver modules are not mandatory. Some more fonts for a default

Re: [opensuse-factory] Symbolic link /media/cdrom

2006-08-21 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Montag, 21. August 2006 18:27 schrieb Tobias Burnus: > Hello, > > Marcel Hilzinger schrieb: > > set a symbolic link each time a CD/DVD is inserted with /media/cdrom. The > > link should always point to the last inserted CD/DVD. > > /media/SUSE_LINUX_10.1 > > is cool, but its hard to work with CD

Re: [opensuse-factory] Symbolic link /media/cdrom

2006-08-21 Thread Tobias Burnus
Hello, Marcel Hilzinger schrieb: > set a symbolic link each time a CD/DVD is inserted with /media/cdrom. The > link > should always point to the last inserted CD/DVD. > /media/SUSE_LINUX_10.1 > is cool, but its hard to work with CDs on command line and writing > documentation for Suse is also v

Re: [opensuse-factory] Symbolic link /media/cdrom

2006-08-21 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Montag, 21. August 2006 18:09 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger: > Am Montag, 21. August 2006 17:56 schrieb Stephan Kulow: > > Am Montag, 21. August 2006 17:51 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger: > > > My personal feature request for 10.2 > > > > > > set a symbolic link each time a CD/DVD is inserted with /media/c

Re: [opensuse-factory] Symbolic link /media/cdrom

2006-08-21 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Montag, 21. August 2006 17:56 schrieb Stephan Kulow: > Am Montag, 21. August 2006 17:51 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger: > > My personal feature request for 10.2 > > > > set a symbolic link each time a CD/DVD is inserted with /media/cdrom. The > > link should always point to the last inserted CD/DVD. >

Re: [opensuse-factory] Symbolic link /media/cdrom

2006-08-21 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Montag, 21. August 2006 17:51 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger: > My personal feature request for 10.2 > > set a symbolic link each time a CD/DVD is inserted with /media/cdrom. The > link should always point to the last inserted CD/DVD. So if you have two trays, the last one wins? Hardly a convincing c

[opensuse-factory] Symbolic link /media/cdrom

2006-08-21 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
My personal feature request for 10.2 set a symbolic link each time a CD/DVD is inserted with /media/cdrom. The link should always point to the last inserted CD/DVD. /media/SUSE_LINUX_10.1 is cool, but its hard to work with CDs on command line and writing documentation for Suse is also very har

Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: new discussion on what kind of patterns we should have

2006-08-21 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Montag, 21. August 2006 17:11 schrieben Sie: > Marcel Hilzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > Actually I would recommend to take over the old selections for the new > > patterns in expert mode. For newbies/non techies we should make new > > patterns, e.g > > No, this is far too much work

Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: new discussion on what kind of patterns we should have

2006-08-21 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Marcel Hilzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Montag, 21. August 2006 14:48 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: >> Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Andreas Jaeger wrote: > [...] >> I added for now - and did this only for KDE, GNOME will come later - a >> generic KDE desktop pattern and a few su

Re: [opensuse-factory] SuSEconfig clearance: SuSEconfig.automake

2006-08-21 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Robert Schiele wrote: > > > > Comments, criticism, better ideas? > > > > > > Not a "better" idea, just an alternative one: Patch aclocal to read > > > the /usr/share/aclocal/dirlist.d/* files directly. > > > > > > Is that possible? The advantage is that people can still easi

Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: new discussion on what kind of patterns we should have

2006-08-21 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Montag, 21. August 2006 14:48 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: > Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Andreas Jaeger wrote: [...] > I added for now - and did this only for KDE, GNOME will come later - a > generic KDE desktop pattern and a few sub patterns: > * KDE-BASIS > * KDE-Devel > * KDE-Edutai

Re: [opensuse-factory] simple packaging

2006-08-21 Thread Andreas
> For Requires you usually done have to do anything. Autoreqprov is on > by default and that means that RPM compiles the list of Requires from > the binarys/scripts. For BuildRequires you have to do exactly what > you are doing.. > > Henne Thank you! It's nice to know that I'm on the right path :)

[opensuse-factory] Re: SuSEconfig clearance: SuSEconfig.gdm & SuSEconfig.wdm

2006-08-21 Thread Bernhard Walle
Hello, Christoph Thiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-21]: > On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > > > > What are other Distros doing? Why don't they need anything alike? What > > > is so much more special about the SuSE way that others don't need > > > anything alike? > > > > The have si

Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: new discussion on what kind of patterns we should have

2006-08-21 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Aug 21. 2006 14:48]: > > I added for now - and did this only for KDE, GNOME will come later - a > generic KDE desktop pattern and a few sub patterns: > * KDE-BASIS > * KDE-Devel > * KDE-Edutainment > * KDE-Games > * KDE-Help > * KDE-IMAGE > * KDE-Internet > *

Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: new discussion on what kind of patterns we should have

2006-08-21 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Andreas Jaeger wrote: > >> I only made a minimal list of patterns - and now want to open a new >> discussion on what kind of patterns we should have. >> I can add everything I find usefull - but please tell me what you find >> usefull ;-) > > Without having

Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for discussion: pattern definition language

2006-08-21 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Monday 21 August 2006 14:27 schrieb Klaus Kaempf: > The current format to define patterns - the .pat file - is rather > awkward to use and specific to one type of repository. > > So I created > > http://en.opensuse.org/Patterns/Definition_Language > > to start a discussion on defining a more g

[opensuse-factory] distmeeting minutes

2006-08-21 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Here are the minutes from our last meeting, Andreas * PolicyKit/resmgr The upstream Hal authors are preparing to require PolicyKit. PolicyKit is a system daemon, applications ask the daemon about permissions. This is a similar concept as resmgr. The question is how to move forward for our

[opensuse-factory] Call for discussion: pattern definition language

2006-08-21 Thread Klaus Kaempf
The current format to define patterns - the .pat file - is rather awkward to use and specific to one type of repository. So I created http://en.opensuse.org/Patterns/Definition_Language to start a discussion on defining a more generic way to describe patterns. Comments welcome ! Klaus --

[opensuse-factory] Re: SuSEconfig clearance: SuSEconfig.gdm & SuSEconfig.wdm

2006-08-21 Thread Bernhard Walle
Hello, Christian Boltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-21]: > Am Montag, 21. August 2006 11:11 schrieb Christoph Thiel: > > to proceed with the SuSEconfig clearance initiative, let's take a > > look at SuSEconfig.gdm and SuSEconfig.wdm. Both of them are used to > > (re)generate config files, by readi

Re: [opensuse-factory] SuSEconfig clearance: SuSEconfig.gdm & SuSEconfig.wdm

2006-08-21 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > > What are other Distros doing? Why don't they need anything alike? What > > is so much more special about the SuSE way that others don't need > > anything alike? > > The have similar problems - or force you to run scripts manually AFAIK. ... plus,

Re: [opensuse-factory] SuSEconfig clearance: SuSEconfig.gdm & SuSEconfig.wdm

2006-08-21 Thread Andreas Jaeger
"Dominique Leuenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What are other Distros doing? Why don't they need anything alike? What > is so much more special about the SuSE way that others don't need > anything alike? The have similar problems - or force you to run scripts manually AFAIK. > Is it just

Re: [opensuse-factory] SuSEconfig clearance: SuSEconfig.gdm & SuSEconfig.wdm

2006-08-21 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Christian Boltz wrote: > > to proceed with the SuSEconfig clearance initiative, let's take a look > > at SuSEconfig.gdm and SuSEconfig.wdm. Both of them are used to > > (re)generate config files, by reading some options from > > /etc/sysconfig/*. To get rid of those SuSEcon

Re: [opensuse-factory] SuSEconfig clearance: SuSEconfig.gdm & SuSEconfig.wdm

2006-08-21 Thread William Gallafent
On Monday 21 August 2006 12:07, Christian Boltz wrote: > Generating config files every time *dm is started is a bad > idea IMHO. Reason: It is done _at every boot_ instead of > "sometimes" after installing packages or alike. So you > will speedup SuSEconfig, but slow down booting a bit :-( By usin

Re: [opensuse-factory] SuSEconfig clearance: SuSEconfig.gdm & SuSEconfig.wdm

2006-08-21 Thread Dominique Leuenberger
Heiko Helmle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/21/06 2:10 PM >>> >Christian Boltz wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Am Montag, 21. August 2006 11:11 schrieb Christoph Thiel: >>> to proceed with the SuSEconfig clearance initiative, let's take a >>> look at SuSEconfig.gdm and SuSEconfig.wdm. Both of them are used to

Re: [opensuse-factory] SuSEconfig clearance: SuSEconfig.gdm & SuSEconfig.wdm

2006-08-21 Thread Heiko Helmle
Christian Boltz wrote: Hello, Am Montag, 21. August 2006 11:11 schrieb Christoph Thiel: to proceed with the SuSEconfig clearance initiative, let's take a look at SuSEconfig.gdm and SuSEconfig.wdm. Both of them are used to (re)generate config files, by reading some options from /etc/sysconfig/*.

Re: [opensuse-factory] SuSEconfig clearance: SuSEconfig.gdm & SuSEconfig.wdm

2006-08-21 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello, Am Montag, 21. August 2006 11:11 schrieb Christoph Thiel: > to proceed with the SuSEconfig clearance initiative, let's take a > look at SuSEconfig.gdm and SuSEconfig.wdm. Both of them are used to > (re)generate config files, by reading some options from > /etc/sysconfig/*. To get rid of tho

Re: [opensuse-factory] SuSEconfig clearance: SuSEconfig.gdm & SuSEconfig.wdm

2006-08-21 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 11:11:50AM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote: > Hi there, > > to proceed with the SuSEconfig clearance initiative, let's take a look at > SuSEconfig.gdm and SuSEconfig.wdm. Both of them are used to (re)generate > config files, by reading some options from /etc/sysconfig/*. To

[opensuse-factory] SuSEconfig clearance: SuSEconfig.gdm & SuSEconfig.wdm

2006-08-21 Thread Christoph Thiel
Hi there, to proceed with the SuSEconfig clearance initiative, let's take a look at SuSEconfig.gdm and SuSEconfig.wdm. Both of them are used to (re)generate config files, by reading some options from /etc/sysconfig/*. To get rid of those SuSEconfig scripts, their logic needs to be moved to /et

Re: [opensuse-factory] wishlist handling

2006-08-21 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Christian Boltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, > > Am Samstag, 19. August 2006 10:22 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: >> Christian Boltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [...] >> >> The question is how to "open" FATE in such a way that all of us >> >> can use it, it was not designed for such a large gr