Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: new discussion on what kind of patterns we should have

2006-08-23 Thread Per Jessen
Andreas Jaeger wrote: This is only a proposal - I really just wrote it up in five minutes. Maybe it's entirely in appropriate. Maybe the selection is 1-2-3 step: Primary qualifier, secondary qualifier, plus add-ons (things you might want to do regardless of which type of system):

[opensuse-factory] Announcing Yast-GTK

2006-08-23 Thread Ricardo Cruz
Hey there, So with the Summer of Code over, it's time to announce the GTK+ interface for Yast (other SoCees, I would love to hear from you btw :)). Still some work to be done for it to be shipped with Suse, but it should be perfectly usable and your welcome to try it. For more information

Re: [opensuse-factory] Announcing Yast-GTK

2006-08-23 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
So with the Summer of Code over, it's time to announce the GTK+ interface for Yast (other SoCees, I would love to hear from you btw :)). Just out of interest, what is the advantage of re-implementing yast by linking it with libgtk instead of libqt? Wouldn't the time have been better spent

Re: [opensuse-factory] Announcing Yast-GTK

2006-08-23 Thread Cristian Rodriguez R.
Volker Kuhlmann escribió: So with the Summer of Code over, it's time to announce the GTK+ interface for Yast (other SoCees, I would love to hear from you btw :)). Just out of interest, what is the advantage of re-implementing yast by linking it with libgtk instead of libqt? Wouldn't the

[opensuse-factory] How to list packages belonging to a given group?

2006-08-23 Thread Émeric Maschino
Hi, Is there a way to list all the packages belonging to a given group (e.g. System/Base) in CLI? I would like to check the diffs between the packages currently installed on my system and the packages that should be there. Some time ago, it was possible to list the packages belonging to a given

Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: new discussion on what kind of patterns we should have

2006-08-23 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Aug 23. 2006 09:20]: I haven't got the time to participate in this discussion right now, but I think it's very important. I'd really like to work out a detailed proposal and then submit that for debate. I still think that the user should be given the

Re: [opensuse-factory] Excess bloat must be removed!

2006-08-23 Thread Azerion
Op woensdag 23 augustus 2006 00:43, schreef Steve Barnhart: Second is the ridiculous amount of packages that are installed on first installation. Perhaps trim down default GNOME and KDE desktop choices like Ubuntu does (basically good packages from each, can install more later). The system after

Re: [opensuse-factory] Announcing Yast-GTK

2006-08-23 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Mittwoch, 23. August 2006 12:22 schrieb Volker Kuhlmann: What's the advantage of having a qt and a gtk frontend for networkmanager? What's the advantage of having KDE and gnome apps? And having a qt and a gtk desktop at all? See above. However, yast is neither a KDE nor a gnome

Re: [opensuse-factory] Announcing Yast-GTK

2006-08-23 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello, Am Mittwoch, 23. August 2006 12:22 schrieb Volker Kuhlmann: [...] Give KDE users qt and Gnome users gkt ! Sure. Can I have a KDE gimp please? ;) kgtk? ;-) http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=36077 The better solution will be Portland as soon as it's finished.

Re: [opensuse-factory] Announcing Yast-GTK

2006-08-23 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa St 23. August 2006 11:05 Volker Kuhlmann napísal: So with the Summer of Code over, it's time to announce the GTK+ interface for Yast (other SoCees, I would love to hear from you btw :)). Just out of interest, what is the advantage of re-implementing yast by linking it with libgtk

Re: [opensuse-factory] Excess bloat must be removed!

2006-08-23 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa St 23. August 2006 12:51 Azerion napísal: Op woensdag 23 augustus 2006 00:43, schreef Steve Barnhart: Second is the ridiculous amount of packages that are installed on first installation. Perhaps trim down default GNOME and KDE desktop choices like Ubuntu does (basically good packages from

Re: [opensuse-factory] Nvidia install problems with kernel 2.6.18.4rc4

2006-08-23 Thread Dinar Valeev
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72488hope it helpsOn 8/23/06, Juan Erbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yesterday I try to install the nvidia drivers, and the installer not recognices the kernel version, and the script sugested to specify thekernel source path, and I do it (with

Re: [opensuse-factory] Nvidia install problems with kernel 2.6.18.4rc4

2006-08-23 Thread Juan Erbes
Tanks, I will try it. 2006/8/23, Dinar Valeev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72488 hope it helps On 8/23/06, Juan Erbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday I try to install the nvidia drivers, and the installer not recognices the kernel version, and the

Re: [opensuse-factory] Announcing Yast-GTK

2006-08-23 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, Ricardo Cruz schrieb: So with the Summer of Code over, it's time to announce the GTK+ interface for Yast So you're asking for feedback? Here we go ;-) First, I just looked at it very shortly and tend to like it. For all modules except the software management, it's the familiar UI we all

Re: [opensuse-factory] How to list packages belonging to a given group?

2006-08-23 Thread Manfred Hollstein
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, 14:48:00 +0200, Émeric Maschino wrote: Hi, [...] BTW, how did you find the names of the %{name}, %{version}, %{release} and %{group} keys in your query? Are there documented somewhere? Additionally, is there a way to recover the names of all the groups? yum list

Re: [opensuse-factory] Excess bloat must be removed!

2006-08-23 Thread Steve Barnhart
-- Forwarded message -- From: Steve Barnhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Aug 23, 2006 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] Excess bloat must be removed! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I won't comment on the backend integration stuff - but as a user you have three interfaces: YaST-qt

Re: [opensuse-factory] Excess bloat must be removed!

2006-08-23 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, Steve Barnhart schrieb: Its never done that before but on 10.1 after I told it I would update it showed me *all* updates instead of ones relevant to what's installed and kept coming up even after installing all of the updates that applied to me. This bug (always showing all patches in

Re: [opensuse-factory] Excess bloat must be removed!

2006-08-23 Thread Steve Barnhart
Has this bug been reported on bugzilla? There's so many on there that seem like they could be applied to this situation. and they all look like they were reported before 10.1 final..wth is up with that? Does Novell not read bug reports? On 8/23/06, Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,

Re: [opensuse-factory] Announcing Yast-GTK

2006-08-23 Thread Ricardo Cruz
Em Quarta, 23 de Agosto de 2006 14:09, o Andreas Hanke escreveu: Hi, Hey you, Ricardo Cruz schrieb: So with the Summer of Code over, it's time to announce the GTK+ interface for Yast So you're asking for feedback? Here we go ;-) Yes, that's always nice to get. :) *snip* Which ones

Re: [opensuse-factory] Announcing Yast-GTK

2006-08-23 Thread Michael Schroeder
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 06:24:30PM +0100, Ricardo Cruz wrote: Anyway, the problem is that I thought Zypp would only report available patches :/... Now in SVN only available patches are displayed. Do you, as a user, have the need for an installed patches catalog? And btw, can you remove

Re: [opensuse-factory] Announcing Yast-GTK

2006-08-23 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, Ricardo Cruz schrieb: Yes, that's always nice to get. :) OK ;-) Now in SVN only available patches are displayed. What does available in this context mean? I know, I can make a new checkout myself ;-) Do you, as a user, have the need for an installed patches catalog? I don't know

Re: [opensuse-factory] Announcing Yast-GTK

2006-08-23 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Michael Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Aug 23. 2006 19:20]: On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 06:24:30PM +0100, Ricardo Cruz wrote: Anyway, the problem is that I thought Zypp would only report available patches :/... Now in SVN only available patches are displayed. Do you, as a user, have the need

Re: [opensuse-factory] How to list packages belonging to a given group?

2006-08-23 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Émeric Maschino wrote: Hi, Is there a way to list all the packages belonging to a given group (e.g. System/Base) in CLI? Package name only: rpm -qa --qf %{name}\t%{group}\n | grep given group With package version and release number: rpm -qa

Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda

2006-08-23 Thread Philipp Thomas
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:31:31 +0200, Manfred Hollstein wrote: strings -a /usr/lib64/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6.so.2.0.0 | fgrep /usr/lib /usr/lib64/apt/methods /usr/lib/apt/scripts As you can see the scripts will be looked up in the architecture independent location /usr/lib/apt (which is correct

Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: new discussion on what kind of patterns we should have

2006-08-23 Thread Rajko M
Per Jessen wrote: Andreas Jaeger wrote: This is only a proposal - I really just wrote it up in five minutes. Maybe it's entirely in appropriate. Maybe the selection is 1-2-3 step: Primary qualifier, secondary qualifier, plus add-ons (things you might want to do regardless of which type

Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: new discussion on what kind of patterns we should have

2006-08-23 Thread Rajko M
Klaus Kaempf wrote: * Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Aug 23. 2006 09:20]: I haven't got the time to participate in this discussion right now, but I think it's very important. I'd really like to work out a detailed proposal and then submit that for debate. I still think that the user should