Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-07 Thread Heiko Helmle
Andreas Jaeger wrote: The target of this exercise for me was to get the default install small - and have extra packages that many like in extra patterns. Well an additional exercise may be letting some yast2-modules stay away from 'base'. if i recall correctly DNS-Server or DHCP-Server modu

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-07 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Heiko Helmle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Andreas Jaeger wrote: > >> >> The target of this exercise for me was to get the default install >> small - and have extra packages that many like in extra patterns. > > Well an additional exercise may be letting some yast2-modules stay > away from 'base'.

Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3_Alpha4-x86_64-CD5.delta.iso on ftp.gwdg.de broken ?

2006-09-07 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Everything is released now and should be correct, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpdq4INredm5.pgp Description: PGP

[opensuse-factory] gnome-screensaver doesn't recognize password!

2006-09-07 Thread Émeric Maschino
Hi,   With today's updates, I cannot wake up my GNOME session once the screensaver has been started: the connexion dialog box tells me that my password is incorrect. And I'm sure it's absolutely correct since I log in my GNOME session with the exact same password (obviously).This is with gnome-scr

Re: [opensuse-factory] smart-gui on openSUSE 10.2 a3

2006-09-07 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Chema Ollés wrote: > > I guess guru's smart packages are just incompatible with 10.2 --> > > presumably X11R6 path changes, or something in that area. > > I downgrade smart version to the first one (on dvd alpha3) and the error > is the same.python-gtk is installed and rpm -q

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-07 Thread jdd
could it be possible to have with these lists an approximation of the installed size of the packages? it may not be worth discussing to gain bytes, only megabytes are worth thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-07 Thread jdd
Rajko M a écrit : Some editor has to be included and nano fits better because it's no learning necessary type of editor, as mentioned in few other posts. we need mostly know the _size_ of nano and it's dependencies, more than the ease of use. I'm used on many linux variants (from mulinux an

[opensuse-factory] GNOME 2.16

2006-09-07 Thread Dominique Leuenberger
List,   I would say quiet good news for our openSUSE 10.2: Gnome 2.16 isofficially released and came out of the beta.   When reading the change log, there is a lot of 3D stuff (like wobbling windows, exploding windows) mentioned. After reading all this, there remains the question about the usage

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-07 Thread Lukas Ocilka
jdd wrote: > Rajko M a écrit : > >> Some editor has to be included and nano fits better because it's no >> learning necessary type of editor, as mentioned in few other posts. > > we need mostly know the _size_ of nano and it's dependencies, more than > the ease of use. > > I'm used on many linux

[opensuse-factory] Minimal RAM requirement

2006-09-07 Thread vetter
Hi, what is the minimal amount of RAM required to do a installation? Both graphical and text mode? We are working on a pattern for a minimal installation for 10.2, which would make it interesting again for small/old machines with very limited RAM. Perhaps one could strip down the text mode i

Re: [opensuse-factory] GNOME 2.16

2006-09-07 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 10:11:39AM +0200, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > I would say quiet good news for our openSUSE 10.2: Gnome 2.16 > isofficially released and came out of the beta. > > When reading the change log, there is a lot of 3D stuff (like wobbling > windows, exploding windows) mention

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-07 Thread Andreas Jaeger
jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > could it be possible to have with these lists an approximation of the > installed size of the packages? This is a problem due to dependencies :-(, I have no idea on how to do this easily. Let's strive for functionality, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [opensuse-factory] gnome-screensaver doesn't recognize password!

2006-09-07 Thread Andreas Jaeger
"Émeric Maschino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > With today's updates, I cannot wake up my GNOME session once the screensaver > has been started: the connexion dialog box tells me that my password is > incorrect. And I'm sure it's absolutely correct since I log in my GNOME > session with th

Re: [opensuse-factory] GNOME 2.16

2006-09-07 Thread Andreas Jaeger
"Dominique Leuenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > List, > > I would say quiet good news for our openSUSE 10.2: Gnome 2.16 > isofficially released and came out of the beta. We have 2.15.92 which is the last beta before 2.16 (I can not comment on the rest of your email), Andreas -- Andreas

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-07 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Sep 07. 2006 10:42]: > jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > could it be possible to have with these lists an approximation of the > > installed size of the packages? > > This is a problem due to dependencies :-(, I have no idea on how to do > this easily. I

Re: [opensuse-factory] gnome-screensaver doesn't recognize password!

2006-09-07 Thread Azerion
Op donderdag 7 september 2006 09:43, schreef Émeric Maschino: > Hi, > > With today's updates, I cannot wake up my GNOME session once the > screensaver has been started: the connexion dialog box tells me that my > password is incorrect. And I'm sure it's absolutely correct since I log in > my GNOME

Re: [opensuse-factory] gnome-screensaver doesn't recognize password!

2006-09-07 Thread Émeric Maschino
Since the updates came with a new kernel, I have rebooted my system. And the problem is still here. I don't know if it's related, but even in runlevel 5, I had to manually start GDM by entering /opt/gnome/sbin/gdm.       Emeric  2006/9/7, Azerion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Op donderdag 7 september 2006

Re: [opensuse-factory] GNOME 2.16

2006-09-07 Thread James Ogley
> > - Will the 3D features of metacity be activated in the openSUSE > > distribution (as they have to be activated on compile time?) > I don't know. Someone of the Gnome maintainers would need to comment > on this one. At the moment they're disabled explicitly - I suspect they cause significant pr

Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3_Alpha4-x86_64-CD5.delta.iso on ftp.gwdg.de broken ?

2006-09-07 Thread Azerion
Most annoying bugs: usb mouse is not working in X, this breaks especially installation Bug #203609 Workaround: Use textmode for installation, e.g. textmode=1 on the kernel line. What about: do not h

Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3_Alpha4-x86_64-CD5.delta.iso on ftp.gwdg.de broken ?

2006-09-07 Thread Vahis
Azerion wrote: > Most annoying bugs: > > usb mouse is not working in X, this breaks especially installation Bug > #203609 > Workaround: Use textmode for installation, e.g. textmode=1 on the kernel > line. >

Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3_Alpha4-x86_64-CD5.delta.iso on ftp.gwdg.de broken ?

2006-09-07 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Azerion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Most annoying bugs: > > usb mouse is not working in X, this breaks especially installation Bug > #203609 > Workaround: Use textmode for installation, e.g. textmode=1 on the kernel > line. > ==

Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3_Alpha4-x86_64-CD5.delta.iso on ftp.gwdg.de broken ?

2006-09-07 Thread Azerion
Op donderdag 7 september 2006 15:09, schreef Vahis: > Azerion wrote: > > Most annoying bugs: > > > > usb mouse is not working in X, this breaks especially installation Bug > > #203609 Workaround: Use textmode for installation, e.g. textmode=1 on the

Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3_Alpha4-x86_64-CD5.delta.iso on ftp.gwdg.de broken ?

2006-09-07 Thread Vahis
Azerion wrote: > Op donderdag 7 september 2006 15:09, schreef Vahis: > >> Azerion wrote: >> >>> Most annoying bugs: >>> >>> usb mouse is not working in X, this breaks especially installation Bug >>> #203609 Workaround: Use textmode for instal

Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3_Alpha4-x86_64-CD5.delta.iso on ftp.gwdg.de broken ?

2006-09-07 Thread Brendan Mulholland
Not true. You can still use the graphical install, but only use keyboard shortcuts... On 9/7/06, Vahis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Azerion wrote: > Op donderdag 7 september 2006 15:09, schreef Vahis: > >> Azerion wrote: >> >>> Most annoying bugs: >>> =

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-07 Thread Ricardo Cruz
Em Quinta, 7 de Setembro de 2006 09:14, o Lukas Ocilka escreveu: > Back in 90's I was used to have 'pico' and 'pine' in my system but the > time has changed Speaking of which, I think we should consider when installing nano that a pico symlink is made to it, since it is a clone of it so that old

Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3_Alpha4-x86_64-CD5.delta.iso on ftp.gwdg.de broken ?

2006-09-07 Thread Vahis
Brendan Mulholland wrote: > Not true. You can still use the graphical install, but only use > keyboard shortcuts... > > On 9/7/06, Vahis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Azerion wrote: >> > Op donderdag 7 september 2006 15:09, schreef Vahis: >> > >> >> Azerion wrote: >> >> >> >>> Most annoying bugs:

Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3_Alpha4-x86_64-CD5.delta.iso on ftp.gwdg.de broken ?

2006-09-07 Thread Azerion
> > On 9/7/06, Vahis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Azerion wrote: > >> > Op donderdag 7 september 2006 15:09, schreef Vahis: > >> >> Azerion wrote: > >> >>> Most annoying bugs: > >> >>> > >> >>> usb mouse is not working in X, this breaks especially

Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3_Alpha4-x86_64-CD5.delta.iso on ftp.gwdg.de broken ?

2006-09-07 Thread Vahis
Azerion wrote: > Sometimes people do have a p2-mouse connected or somewhere around. I do have > a > plug-thing that makes the USB-connector a ps2. > > Changed to: > usb mouse is not working in X, this breaks especially installation Bug > #203609 > Workaround: Make sure you don't have a mouse c

[opensuse-factory] Burning the internet install ISO for 10.2 alpha 4

2006-09-07 Thread Keith Goggin
Hi, I've downloaded and burnt the X86 boot disk for internet install (openSUSE10.2 Alpha 4). The disk verified ok but the boot process hasn't recognised the install media. I've used a re-writable CD does that matter? Thanks for any advise

Re: [opensuse-factory] Summary: Games on openSUSE 10.2

2006-09-07 Thread Martin Schlander
Onsdag 06 september 2006 18:16 skrev Stefan Dirsch: > Games for default Installation: > --- > GNOME:gnome-games > KDE:kdegames (kmines,kpat) > KDE:knights > KDE:ksudoku > chromium > frozen-bubble > freeciv > lbreakout > supertux > xmoto Great default selection I think.

Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3_Alpha4-x86_64-CD5.delta.iso on ftp.gwdg.de broken ?

2006-09-07 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Vahis wrote: > If you OTOH want to install without the mouse at all then you need to do > it in text mode anyway, huh? You can still install in both ncurses and Qt without any mouse. Use [Tab] key and/or Alt+Highlighted_Character and [Enter]. Yes, it takes, at least, 3x more time ;) L. -

Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3_Alpha4-x86_64-CD5.delta.iso on ftp.gwdg.de broken ?

2006-09-07 Thread Azerion
Op donderdag 7 september 2006 17:26, schreef Vahis: > Azerion wrote: > > Sometimes people do have a p2-mouse connected or somewhere around. I do > > have a plug-thing that makes the USB-connector a ps2. > > > > Changed to: > > usb mouse is not working in X, this breaks especially installation Bug >

Re: [opensuse-factory] Summary: Games on openSUSE 10.2

2006-09-07 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 06:40:52PM +0200, Martin Schlander wrote: > Onsdag 06 september 2006 18:16 skrev Stefan Dirsch: > > Games for default Installation: > > --- > > GNOME:gnome-games > > KDE:kdegames (kmines,kpat) > > KDE:knights > > KDE:ksudoku > > chromium > > froze

Re: [opensuse-factory] Summary: Games on openSUSE 10.2

2006-09-07 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Stefan Dirsch wrote: >> How can lbreakout popularity surprise you? >> 95% of people between 25 and 55 has a latent addiction of breakout >> games ;-) > > Can you give me any pointers for such numbers? Would be interesting to > know, which kind of games are popular. I don't think we ever made a >

Re: [opensuse-factory] Summary: Games on openSUSE 10.2

2006-09-07 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 07:12:09PM +0200, Lukas Ocilka wrote: > Stefan Dirsch wrote: > >> How can lbreakout popularity surprise you? > >> 95% of people between 25 and 55 has a latent addiction of breakout > >> games ;-) > > > > Can you give me any pointers for such numbers? Would be interesting

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-07 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello, Am Dienstag, 5. September 2006 16:42 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: > Required (must have): [...] > cpp ??? (only needed by xorg-x11 and gcc [on my 10.1 system] which are not in requirements) > gnome-icon-theme Should be in a "X" or "Gnome" pattern instead. Nobody needs icons on tty1 ;-) > m

[opensuse-factory] 10.2 Alpha 4 install fails on low end hardware

2006-09-07 Thread Richard
10.2a4 cd1 & mini-iso (both checked with md5sum on file and verified by k3b burner) Very early in install, "Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init!" occurs just after "freeing unused kernel memory" message, which is followed by "SMP" alone on a line. Hardware isn't SMP... Tried defaul

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-07 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Christian Boltz wrote: > > finger > > Is finger still used? IMHO fingerd disabled on most machines for > security reasons, so there's no point in including the client in the > default installation. Yes, It is restricted to intranet. Very handy to use inside company network to

Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2 Alpha 4 install fails on low end hardware

2006-09-07 Thread David Bolt
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:- >10.2a4 cd1 & mini-iso (both checked with md5sum on file and verified by >k3b burner) > >Very early in install, "Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill >init!" occurs just after "freeing unused kernel memory" message, which >is followe

Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2 Alpha 4 install fails on low end hardware

2006-09-07 Thread Richard
David Bolt wrote: > On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:- > >> 10.2a4 cd1 & mini-iso (both checked with md5sum on file and verified by >> k3b burner) >> >> Very early in install, "Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill >> init!" occurs just after "freeing unused kernel mem

Re: [opensuse-factory] Burning the internet install ISO for 10.2 alpha 4

2006-09-07 Thread Brendan Mulholland
On 9/7/06, Keith Goggin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Hey. I've downloaded and burnt the X86 boot disk for internet install (openSUSE10.2 Alpha 4). The disk verified ok but the boot process hasn't recognised the install media. Just to make sure, you've set your BIOS to boot from CD-ROM be

Re: [opensuse-factory] Burning the internet install ISO for 10.2 alpha 4

2006-09-07 Thread Keith Goggin
On Friday 08 September 2006 07:52, Brendan Mulholland wrote: > On 9/7/06, Keith Goggin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Hey. > > > I've downloaded and burnt the X86 boot disk for internet install > > (openSUSE10.2 Alpha 4). The disk verified ok but the boot process hasn't > > recognised the i

Re: [opensuse-factory] Burning the internet install ISO for 10.2 alpha 4

2006-09-07 Thread Rajko M
Keith Goggin wrote: > The error message is > > 'Could not find the SUSE Linux Installation Source.' > > that alone is good for a bug report - incorrect branding :-) > > Seems to me I need to identify the server where the disk images are held? > > What is this about 'Point the YaST in

Re: [opensuse-factory] Minimal RAM requirement

2006-09-07 Thread Rajko M
vetter wrote: > Hi, > > what is the minimal amount of RAM required to do a installation? Both > graphical and text mode? > > We are working on a pattern for a minimal installation for 10.2, which > would make it interesting again for small/old machines with very limited > RAM. > > Perhaps on

Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2 Alpha 4 install fails on low end hardware

2006-09-07 Thread Andreas Jaeger
David Bolt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:- > >>10.2a4 cd1 & mini-iso (both checked with md5sum on file and verified by >>k3b burner) >> >>Very early in install, "Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill >>init!" occurs just after "freeing

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-07 Thread vetter
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Christian Boltz wrote: > > openssh > > should probably be in recommended only ssh and scp are very basic features. i think we should keep it unless we define minimal as "without network" > > reiserfs > > Nobody needs this *g,d&r* if reiser still is default fs for install

[opensuse-factory] GDK applications are crashing on Itanium (IA-64)

2006-09-07 Thread Émeric Maschino
Hi,When clicking on Control center or Preferred applications from the GNOME desktop, I get nothing. Starting control-center and application-browser from a shell displays the following message on the console: Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_get_name: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failedaborting.