Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2 Alpha 4 install fails on low end hardware

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas Jaeger
David Bolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:- 10.2a4 cd1 mini-iso (both checked with md5sum on file and verified by k3b burner) Very early in install, Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init! occurs just after freeing unused kernel

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-08 Thread vetter
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Christian Boltz wrote: openssh should probably be in recommended only ssh and scp are very basic features. i think we should keep it unless we define minimal as without network reiserfs Nobody needs this *g,dr* if reiser still is default fs for installation, we

[opensuse-factory] GDK applications are crashing on Itanium (IA-64)

2006-09-08 Thread Émeric Maschino
Hi,When clicking on Control center or Preferred applications from the GNOME desktop, I get nothing. Starting control-center and application-browser from a shell displays the following message on the console: Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_get_name: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)'

Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2 Alpha 4 install fails on low end hardware

2006-09-08 Thread Richard
Andreas Jaeger wrote: David Bolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:- 10.2a4 cd1 mini-iso (both checked with md5sum on file and verified by k3b burner) Very early in install, Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init! occurs just after

Re: [opensuse-factory] GDK applications are crashing on Itanium (IA-64)

2006-09-08 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Friday 08 September 2006 08:55 schrieb Émeric Maschino: Hi, When clicking on Control center or Preferred applications from the GNOME desktop, I get nothing. Starting control-center and application-browser from a shell displays the following message on the console: Gdk-CRITICAL **:

Re: [opensuse-factory] gnome-screensaver doesn't recognize password!

2006-09-08 Thread Émeric Maschino
Done. Please have a look at: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204364 Please report it in bugzilla,Andreas--Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.suse.de/~aj/SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, GermanyGPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7FFED1 389A

Re: [opensuse-factory] GDK applications are crashing on Itanium (IA-64)

2006-09-08 Thread Émeric Maschino
Done. Please have a look at: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204365 If a bug report report will be appreciated, against which component should I report this problem? Against Gnome componentbyeadrian--Adrian SchroeterSUSE Linux Products GmbH,Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg,

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, Am Dienstag, 5. September 2006 16:42 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: Required (must have): [...] cpp ??? (only needed by xorg-x11 and gcc [on my 10.1 system] which are not in requirements) Ok, will remove. gnome-icon-theme Should be in a X

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Christoph Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote: m4 make I don't see why these are _required_... make is required for booting. m4 is used in various place AFAIR. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -q --whatrequires m4 flex-2.5.31-18.5 autoconf-2.59-92.3

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-08 Thread Robert Schiele
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 11:35:10AM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Christoph Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -q --whatrequires m4 flex-2.5.31-18.5 autoconf-2.59-92.3 bison-2.1-13.3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ Could be dropped, IIUC. Let's hope that this is a complete

Re: [opensuse-factory] Minimal RAM requirement

2006-09-08 Thread Stanislav Brabec
Rajko M wrote: vetter wrote: Hi, what is the minimal amount of RAM required to do a installation? Both graphical and text mode? We are working on a pattern for a minimal installation for 10.2, which would make it interesting again for small/old machines with very limited RAM.

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-08 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Freitag, 8. September 2006 11:01 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: I don't see why these are _required_... make is required for booting. m4 is used in various place AFAIR. Huh? Not sure who spread that misinformation :) Greetings, Stephan

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Freitag, 8. September 2006 11:01 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: I don't see why these are _required_... make is required for booting. m4 is used in various place AFAIR. Huh? Not sure who spread that misinformation :) Me spread it ;-) - but then I run

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Robert Schiele [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 11:35:10AM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Christoph Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -q --whatrequires m4 flex-2.5.31-18.5 autoconf-2.59-92.3 bison-2.1-13.3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ Could be dropped,

Re: [opensuse-factory] Minimal RAM requirement

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Stanislav Brabec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] 5. Evolution - New Mail Start time: 10 minutes Proposed solution: Disable spell checker. Decreases start time to about 2%. Please file a bug. 6. Tomboy New note time: 1 minute Proposed solution: Remove it from panel, maybe disable

Re: [opensuse-factory] Minimal RAM requirement

2006-09-08 Thread Stanislav Brabec
Andreas Jaeger wrote: Stanislav Brabec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 5. Evolution - New Mail Start time: 10 minutes Proposed solution: Disable spell checker. Decreases start time to about 2%. Please file a bug. It was already discussed and this status is after fixing this bug. Before

Re: [opensuse-factory] Minimal RAM requirement

2006-09-08 Thread Dominique Leuenberger
Reply on 08-09-2006 15:13:25 Andreas Jaeger wrote: 7. gnome-main-menu (probably required in SLED10 or 10.2) Eats about 180MB of virtual memory. I consider this a bug worth filing in bugzilla. Proposed solution: Use standard GNOME menu. Seems to be already fixed and

Re: [opensuse-factory] Games on openSUSE 10.2

2006-09-08 Thread Silviu Marin-Caea
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 20:30, Stefan Dirsch wrote: On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 01:21:58PM -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote: On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 12:22 +0200, Stefan Dirsch wrote: On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 09:56:50AM +0100, richard wrote: We need games. They're the ultimate argument for

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation

2006-09-08 Thread Robert Schiele
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 01:56:30PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: I just fear that my next installation will be broken because I removed far too much ;-) As long as you fix these dependency bugs then instead of hiding them again by readding the respective package to the selection it was at least

Re: [opensuse-factory] Games on openSUSE 10.2

2006-09-08 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 03:42:51PM +0300, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote: ksudoku shisen-sho kmahjongg is in kdegames3-board, which is in KDE-Games pattern. I don't think that so many users play mahjongg ... I also vote for lbreakout. Wow! Didn't know that this is the favorite of so

Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2 Alpha 4 install fails on low end hardware

2006-09-08 Thread David Bolt
On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:- David Bolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't see the SMP on mine, and the system which I'm trying to install it upon doesn't support SMP as yet (see below). We only use SMP kernels now (see my announcement ;-) - and those should

[opensuse-factory] New libzypp documentation at http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp

2006-09-08 Thread Martin Vidner
Hi, Thanks to Martin Kudlvasr we have transferred the documentation for libzypp from an internal site to opensuse.org. I have put the most useful links to http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp, to sections http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp#Catalogs and http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp#Development (There

[opensuse-factory] discussing problems with Yast Package Setup patterns or problem

2006-09-08 Thread Alexey Eremenko
Hi all ! There are several bugs opened about it: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204407 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204403 openSUSE 10.2 has no simple graphics editors installed by default. simple graphics editor is a must

Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2 Alpha 4 install fails on low end hardware

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas Jaeger
David Bolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:- David Bolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't see the SMP on mine, and the system which I'm trying to install it upon doesn't support SMP as yet (see below). We only use SMP kernels now (see my

[opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006

2006-09-08 Thread Alexey Eremenko
Hi all ! I would like to ask to start the BETA process of openSUSE 10.2 earlier. Alpha4 now is stable enough to be almost BETA - a few fixes here and there and we are BETA-ready. I think it is not-needed to waste another month of time to get to Alpha5 and then BETA1. I suggest, that, because

Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006

2006-09-08 Thread Azerion
Op vrijdag 8 september 2006 16:19, schreef Alexey Eremenko: Hi all ! I would like to ask to start the BETA process of openSUSE 10.2 earlier. Alpha4 now is stable enough to be almost BETA - a few fixes here and there and we are BETA-ready. I think it is not-needed to waste another month of

Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006

2006-09-08 Thread Dominique Leuenberger
Reply on 08-09-2006 17:24:03 Hi all ! I would like to ask to start the BETA process of openSUSE 10.2 earlier. Alpha4 now is stable enough to be almost BETA - a few fixes here and there and we are BETA-ready. I think it is not-needed to waste another month of time to get to Alpha5 and then

Re: [opensuse-factory] discussing problems with Yast Package Setup patterns or problem

2006-09-08 Thread Azerion
Hi all ! Also, while the GIMP is installed it's help is missing. I think the two packages must be tied to one another. +1. But then the helpfiles have to be updated also if Gimp is cause they are both in the same package. Is there in the new system

Re: [opensuse-factory] Failed to initialize catalog. Try again?

2006-09-08 Thread Azerion
Op vrijdag 8 september 2006 15:49, schreef Felix Miata: Last 3 tries to ftp install wednesday and today this happened, using ftp.cise.ufl.edu and mirrors.kernel.org. Factory does not guarantee an installable openSUSE. So I guess there is the problem for you. The catalog is probably out of

Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006

2006-09-08 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 04:26:37PM +0200, Azerion wrote: Op vrijdag 8 september 2006 16:19, schreef Alexey Eremenko: Hi all ! I would like to ask to start the BETA process of openSUSE 10.2 earlier. Alpha4 now is stable enough to be almost BETA - a few fixes here and there and we are

Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006

2006-09-08 Thread Silviu Marin-Caea
On Friday 08 September 2006 17:29, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: I agree I don't. 10.1 had the problems because the zen stuff was added during beta. This won't hapen with 10.2. We don't need to be chickens. Next release will have enough time to bake, considering that the cycle has been

Re: [opensuse-factory] discussing problems with Yast Package Setup patterns or problem

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all ! There are several bugs opened about it: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204407 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204403 openSUSE 10.2 has no simple graphics editors installed

Re: [opensuse-factory] discussing problems with Yast Package Setup patterns or problem

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Azerion [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all ! Also, while the GIMP is installed it's help is missing. I think the two packages must be tied to one another. +1. But then the helpfiles have to be updated also if Gimp is cause they are both in the same

Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Silviu Marin-Caea [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Friday 08 September 2006 17:29, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: I agree I don't. 10.1 had the problems because the zen stuff was added during beta. This won't hapen with 10.2. We don't need to be chickens. Next release will have enough time

Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006

2006-09-08 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett
On Friday 08 September 2006 16:19, Alexey Eremenko wrote: Hi all ! I would like to ask to start the BETA process of openSUSE 10.2 earlier. Alpha4 now is stable enough to be almost BETA - a few fixes here and there and we are BETA-ready. I think it is not-needed to waste another month of

Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006

2006-09-08 Thread Alexey Eremenko
I agree. As far as I understand you, the release date should remain the same, just the time for real BUG fixing should be bigger. Only the feature freeze will be earlier. Yes, release date should be normal, Dec, 2006. But Testing perioud should be longer - because both previous versions 10.0

Re: [opensuse-factory] discussing problems with Yast Package Setup patterns or problem

2006-09-08 Thread Alexey Eremenko
The KDE/GNOME default missed all the multimedia stuff and I just fixed this, so this requirement is fullfilled. I don't know in which package kolourpaint is, so cannot tell whether it will be installed by default. First of all you can search it in Yast, by selecting : check in description.

Re: [opensuse-factory] discussing problems with Yast Package Setup patterns or problem

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The KDE/GNOME default missed all the multimedia stuff and I just fixed this, so this requirement is fullfilled. I don't know in which package kolourpaint is, so cannot tell whether it will be installed by default. First of all you can search it in

Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree. As far as I understand you, the release date should remain the same, just the time for real BUG fixing should be bigger. Only the feature freeze will be earlier. Yes, release date should be normal, Dec, 2006. But Testing perioud should be

Re: [opensuse-factory] discussing problems with Yast Package Setup patterns or problem

2006-09-08 Thread Stephan Binner
On Friday 08 September 2006 17:47, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Second: Kolourpaint is part of kdegraphics3-imaging package. Should get installed now, Veto. kdegraphics3-imaging contains also other stuff like the second and third then installed graphic viewer. May I suggest to rather move

Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006

2006-09-08 Thread Stephan Binner
On Friday 08 September 2006 16:19, Alexey Eremenko wrote: I think it is not-needed to waste another month of time to get to Alpha5 and then BETA1. [..] and make feature freeze earlier. So adding and completing features is a waste of time? Thanks for the laugh. Bye, Steve

Re: [opensuse-factory] discussing problems with Yast Package Setup patterns or problem

2006-09-08 Thread Alexey Eremenko
Veto. kdegraphics3-imaging contains also other stuff like the second and third then installed graphic viewer. May I suggest to rather move kolourpaint into the base kdegraphics3 package if it's wanted to get installed by default? I agree to either install kdegraphics3-imaging by default or to

Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006

2006-09-08 Thread Alexey Eremenko
On 9/8/06, Stephan Binner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 08 September 2006 16:19, Alexey Eremenko wrote: I think it is not-needed to waste another month of time to get to Alpha5 and then BETA1. [..] and make feature freeze earlier. So adding and completing features is a waste of time?

Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006

2006-09-08 Thread David Wright
Am Freitag, den 08.09.2006, 16:19 +0200 schrieb Alexey Eremenko: Hi all ! I would like to ask to start the BETA process of openSUSE 10.2 earlier. Alpha4 now is stable enough to be almost BETA - a few fixes here and there and we are BETA-ready. I think it is not-needed to waste another

Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006

2006-09-08 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 18:21 +0200, Alexey Eremenko wrote: On 9/8/06, Stephan Binner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 08 September 2006 16:19, Alexey Eremenko wrote: I think it is not-needed to waste another month of time to get to Alpha5 and then BETA1. [..] and make feature freeze

Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006

2006-09-08 Thread Martin Schlander
Fredag 08 september 2006 18:38 skrev Kenneth Schneider: And what is your _rush_ to get 10.2 released earlier? IIANM the schedule for a new release is now 9 months, instead of the 6 months that was in places for prior versions, so that more testing and bug fixing can take place (which is a good

Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006

2006-09-08 Thread Cristian Rodriguez R.
Alexey Eremenko escribió: Hi all ! I would like to ask to start the BETA process of openSUSE 10.2 earlier. Alpha4 now is stable enough to be almost BETA - a few fixes here and there and we are BETA-ready. I think it is not-needed to waste another month of time to get to Alpha5 and then

Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006

2006-09-08 Thread Cristian Rodriguez R.
Alexey Eremenko escribió: Pushing half-developed features into OS results in SUSE Linux 10.1 - both late and unstable OS. 10.1 is stable, the only problem it has (or had) is the persistent bugs in package manager stuff. still looking forward the new 10.1 ISOS.. signature.asc Description:

Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006

2006-09-08 Thread Stephan Binner
On Friday 08 September 2006 18:21, Alexey Eremenko wrote: It is NOT waste of time, but having more stable community OS *is* more If something needs more time to become stable then move back the release date but do not call for an immediate feature freeze which invalidates hundred people's

Re: [opensuse-factory] Games on openSUSE 10.2

2006-09-08 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm currently transfering most of my packages to the buildservice. Among these are also some games. We probably will introduce a Games: namespace for different kind of games. I would like to see this namespace on the build service. I would like

[opensuse-factory] sugerence re update process.

2006-09-08 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 When I updated from 9.3 to 10.1 using the iso image, I lost some packages that were not included in the dvd, but were available from the ftp tree. Some of them are easy enough to reinstall later, some, like hylafax, means that the admin (me)

Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 Features and Roadmap

2006-09-08 Thread Luc Willems
On Friday 25 August 2006 13:36, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Michael Löffler is currently on vacation and asked me to discuss the following, it's based on his latest draft. All errors are mine naturally ;-) Please give feedback and of course if there's something missing - tell us. Hello all ,

Re: [opensuse-factory] Games on openSUSE 10.2

2006-09-08 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 12:39:03PM -0600, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote: I'm currently transfering most of my packages to the buildservice. Among these are also some games. We probably will introduce a Games: namespace for different kind of games. I would like to see this namespace on the build

Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-08 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/09/05 18:33 (GMT-0700) Andreas apparently typed: El Martes, 5 de Septiembre de 2006 15:29, Felix Miata escribió: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=141443 sorry if I didn't make myself clear: With a weird bug like this I think it's best to try and install the system not as

Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 Features and Roadmap

2006-09-08 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 21:19 +0200, Luc Willems wrote: On Friday 25 August 2006 13:36, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Michael Löffler is currently on vacation and asked me to discuss the following, it's based on his latest draft. All errors are mine naturally ;-) Please give feedback and of

Re: [opensuse-factory] Games on openSUSE 10.2

2006-09-08 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Stefan Dirsch wrote: On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 12:39:03PM -0600, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote: I'm currently transfering most of my packages to the buildservice. Among these are also some games. We probably will introduce a Games: namespace for different kind of games.

Re: [opensuse-factory] Where in those KDE 3.5.4a menus is kcontrol hiding

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas Hanke
Felix Miata schrieb: Awful, awful, awful is the only way I can describe the behavior of the new menus. No whining, please. I looked in the menus for Kcontrol/Personal Settings/Control Center for at least 3 minutes before giving up You obviously gave up very early, because the option is not

Re: [opensuse-factory] Where in those KDE 3.5.4a menus is kcontrol hiding

2006-09-08 Thread Stephan Binner
On Friday 08 September 2006 22:27, Felix Miata wrote: Is there some config setting somewhere that will bring back the many years old tree/branch behavior? If so, where? The fastest way is to right-click the button and Switch to KDE Menu Style. I looked in the menus for Kcontrol/Personal

[opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 a4 install reviewed

2006-09-08 Thread Azerion
Welcome welcome, as some of you all may know I am very interested in the installation of openSUSE. Big changes won't happen for 10.2 but I saw some things that prabably are easy to change. I also found a bug that I will report after I clicked send. No more bla bla, let's go! 1.] If you check

Re: [opensuse-factory] Where in those KDE 3.5.4a menus is kcontrol hiding

2006-09-08 Thread Azerion
Op vrijdag 8 september 2006 22:57, schreef Stephan Binner: On Friday 08 September 2006 22:27, Felix Miata wrote: Is there some config setting somewhere that will bring back the many years old tree/branch behavior? If so, where? The fastest way is to right-click the button and Switch to KDE

Re: [opensuse-factory] Where in those KDE 3.5.4a menus is kcontrol hiding

2006-09-08 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/09/08 22:37 (GMT+0200) Azerion apparently typed: Op vrijdag 8 september 2006 22:27, schreef Felix Miata: Is there some config setting somewhere that will bring back the many years old tree/branch behavior? If so, where? You would almost think that it is under rightclick taksbar

[opensuse-factory] Monitor frequences during installation

2006-09-08 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, a very annoying featuritis thingy happens during installation since some SUSE generations now: The (automatically) chosen values for the monitor frequencies lead to value out of range very often. I see it regularly since 10.0 with a lot of LCD displays used through KVM switches. The

Re: [opensuse-factory] Monitor frequences during installation

2006-09-08 Thread William Gallafent
On Friday 08 September 2006 22:48, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: The general policy with LCD displays HAS TO be: lowest frequencies at recognized resolutions. Er, I disagree. If it is possible to sense using the EDID system the preferred frequency of the attached panel, then that should be used.

Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas
El Viernes, 8 de Septiembre de 2006 13:09, Felix Miata escribió: It was tough, but I finally got it to install on a 4th machine. Same problem. 100% failure. Well well, it seems to me that this an issue that can't be resolved without having physical access to your pc(s). Maybe the geek

Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-08 Thread J Sloan
Andreas wrote: El Viernes, 8 de Septiembre de 2006 13:09, Felix Miata escribió: It was tough, but I finally got it to install on a 4th machine. Same problem. 100% failure. Well well, it seems to me that this an issue that can't be resolved without having physical access to your pc(s).

Re: [opensuse-factory] Monitor frequences during installation

2006-09-08 Thread William Gallafent
On Friday 08 September 2006 23:03, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: During the installation phase, only those facts are valid which happen to the user, not those stated in papers. Sure. The fact is, though, that if a reasonable EDID resolution / refresh is found, then it should be used. That's what

Re: [opensuse-factory] Monitor frequences during installation

2006-09-08 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, William Gallafent wrote: On Friday 08 September 2006 23:03, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: During the installation phase, only those facts are valid which happen to the user, not those stated in papers. Sure. The fact is, though, that if a reasonable EDID resolution /

[opensuse-factory] Yast installation sources: now with *NEW* screens!

2006-09-08 Thread Azerion
Goodday, when i used SL 10.1 and went to Yast2 inst_sources I saw an Add button. Hen I clicked it showed me a sort of drop-down with some options. You selected, a pop-up came you filled in and Done. In 10.2 however you click Add, go to a new screen, select an option, click on Next, enter the

Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-08 Thread Azerion
Op vrijdag 8 september 2006 22:09, schreef Felix Miata: On 06/09/05 18:33 (GMT-0700) Andreas apparently typed: El Martes, 5 de Septiembre de 2006 15:29, Felix Miata escribió: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=141443 sorry if I didn't make myself clear: With a weird bug like this

Re: [opensuse-factory] Monitor frequences during installation

2006-09-08 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Azerion wrote: Op zaterdag 9 september 2006 00:32, schreef Eberhard Moenkeberg: AFTER installation is totally different from DURING installation. Getting confronted with too high frequencies at the right resolution during installation is a 100% show stopper if you

Re: [opensuse-factory] Yast installation sources: now with *NEW* screens!

2006-09-08 Thread B . Weber
In 10.2 however you click Add, go to a new screen, select an option, click on Next, enter the information and again Next. It seems very weird to have a whole screen for 1 imput with the name URL Why had it changes. The old manner was better I thnik It has been like this since alpha3 at

Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas
El Viernes, 8 de Septiembre de 2006 15:16, J Sloan escribió: umm.. unfortunately geek squad is *totally* clueless about anything other than ms winbloze... Not really geek-ish me thinks :)) -- Gruß Andreas - To unsubscribe,

[opensuse-factory] evolution 2.8.0

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas
Hi yall, I have some probs with evolution 2.8.0 (I just installed Alpha 4): * Evolution does not remember the passwords for my various email accounts (pop/smtp), although the option is checked. * The main window (the one that lists the emails in the different folders) is blank. I can see that

Re: [opensuse-factory] Games on openSUSE 10.2

2006-09-08 Thread Martin Schlander
Fredag 08 september 2006 21:37 skrev Stefan Dirsch: That's great. A current proposal is games: adventure: action: strategy: turn-based: realtime: puzzle: roleplay: toys: Board: (?) Or

Re: [opensuse-factory] evolution 2.8.0

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, Andreas schrieb: Oh, and does anyone know how I can get window decorations like a titlebar in gnome? Right now i can't move or resize any application window. Execute a window manager. For example, in an xterm, metacity Currently there is no window manager being launched by default.

Re: [opensuse-factory] evolution 2.8.0

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas
El Viernes, 8 de Septiembre de 2006 16:58, Andreas Hanke escribió: Execute a window manager. For example, in an xterm, metacity Thanks! I added a line in the gnome start-skript and it actually works. -- Gruß Andreas -

Re: [opensuse-factory] Monitor frequences during installation

2006-09-08 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Azerion wrote: Op zaterdag 9 september 2006 00:32, schreef Eberhard Moenkeberg: AFTER installation is totally different from DURING installation. Getting confronted with too high frequencies at the right resolution

Re: [opensuse-factory] Monitor frequences during installation

2006-09-08 Thread Rajko M
Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: ... Please, please someone with the same experience may call me too here now, before I loose my patience in the well-known way... Me too. Now I can explain ... It is standard procedure to manually set installation screen option, to 1024x768 or lower, otherwise it

Re: [opensuse-factory] Monitor frequences during installation

2006-09-08 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi. On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Rajko M wrote: Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: ... Please, please someone with the same experience may call me too here now, before I loose my patience in the well-known way... Me too. many thanks. Now I can go asleep and look tomorror how it continued... Now I can

Re: [opensuse-factory] Games on openSUSE 10.2

2006-09-08 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Sat, Sep 09, 2006 at 01:14:55AM +0200, Martin Schlander wrote: Fredag 08 september 2006 21:37 skrev Stefan Dirsch: That's great. A current proposal is games: adventure: action: strategy: turn-based: realtime:

[opensuse-factory] Internet Installation openSUSE 10.2 Alpha4

2006-09-08 Thread Keith Goggin
Hello all, http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version says in part 'If you choose this installation type, you download a small boot medium to start the installation from and the YaST installer does the rest for you' I have tried this method and cannot get beyond the error message 'Could not

Re: [opensuse-factory] Monitor frequences during installation

2006-09-08 Thread Markus Koßmann
Am Freitag, 8. September 2006 23:52 schrieb William Gallafent: On Friday 08 September 2006 22:48, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: The general policy with LCD displays HAS TO be: lowest frequencies at recognized resolutions. Er, I disagree. If it is possible to sense using the EDID system the

Re: [opensuse-factory] vnc password

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas
El Martes, 5 de Septiembre de 2006 16:56, Andreas escribió: wow, I figured it out all by myself. I'm so good :) -- Andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [opensuse-factory] Games on openSUSE 10.2

2006-09-08 Thread Rajko M
Stefan Dirsch wrote: On Sat, Sep 09, 2006 at 01:14:55AM +0200, Martin Schlander wrote: Fredag 08 september 2006 21:37 skrev Stefan Dirsch: That's great. A current proposal is games: adventure: action: strategy: turn-based: