On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 04:00:31PM +0100, Michael Schroeder wrote:
> But we don't need passivetex to generate man pages, so can't we
> just block the xmlto->passivetex dependency, i.e. add
>
> #!BuildIgnore: passivetex
>
> to the spec file?
That would be an approache that would be much more to my
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 12:08:40PM -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
> > P.S. not one of these tools comes with an on board manual, that is what
> > training and research are for.
>
> That's the right point James.
No, it isn't. Because the amount of training and *research* that is
needed to use an OS should
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 01:24:47PM +0100, Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 09:31 +0100, jdd wrote:
> > Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
> > > Joerg Mayer escribió:
> > >
> > >> * Sat Aug 11 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> - Make separate spec file for PolicyKit-doc so that PolicyKit does
> > >>
* Kay Sievers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-03 14:50]:
> On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 13:58 +0100, Dirk Mueller wrote:
> > On Thursday 27 December 2007, Kay Sievers wrote:
> >
> > > > This is because TeX stuff is **huge**.
> > > That's a very weird reason to put man pages into the -doc package, and
> > >
On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 13:58 +0100, Dirk Mueller wrote:
> On Thursday 27 December 2007, Kay Sievers wrote:
>
> > > This is because TeX stuff is **huge**.
> > That's a very weird reason to put man pages into the -doc package, and
> > not provide them with the main package, like everybody else is doi
On Thursday 27 December 2007, Kay Sievers wrote:
> > This is because TeX stuff is **huge**.
> That's a very weird reason to put man pages into the -doc package, and
> not provide them with the main package, like everybody else is doing it.
I find it weird that you comment on the package as if you
Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [...]
> A bug that the main PolicyKit package should recommend the package with
> the man pages,
I just fixed it myself, no more need for a bugreport,
Andreas
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007, Joerg Mayer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd just discuss something that I got hit with:
> The PolicyKit package no longer contains the manpages - if you want them
> you need to install PolicyKit-doc as well.
> IMO, this is a *relly* *really* ... *really* wrong decision, which was
> obvi
Joerg Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 03:26:57PM +0100, Stephan Kulow wrote:
>> This has nothing to do with that. The reason the docs are split out is that
>> PolicyKit is a pretty basic package required by many other packages for
>> building. And if such a basic pack
On Monday 31 December 2007 10:24:35 am James Tremblay wrote:
> P.S. not one of these tools comes with an on board manual, that is what
> training and research are for.
That's the right point James.
It is time to rethink about tradition to have manuals as a part of package.
I need manuals to l
James Tremblay wrote:
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Joerg Mayer escribió:
a) a car doesn't have several hundred small "tools"
of course it does, it has several hundred of small and big tools that
makes it work..
I would have to agree, I spent only two years as auto mechanic after
tec
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Joerg Mayer escribió:
a) a car doesn't have several hundred small "tools"
of course it does, it has several hundred of small and big tools that
makes it work..
I would have to agree, I spent only two years as auto mechanic after
tech school and I have 10
Joerg Mayer escribió:
> a) a car doesn't have several hundred small "tools"
of course it does, it has several hundred of small and big tools that
makes it work..
--
"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." -
Albert Einstein
Cristian Rodríguez R.
Platform/OpenSUSE - Co
On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 03:12:33PM -0500, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:
> On Dec 30, 2007 1:31 PM, Joerg Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > We are talking about 6 KBytes of manpages, not 640 KBytes of complete
> > documentation. What use is it to have the programs if they are unusable
> > due to missin
On Dec 30, 2007 1:31 PM, Joerg Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We are talking about 6 KBytes of manpages, not 640 KBytes of complete
> documentation. What use is it to have the programs if they are unusable
> due to missing manpages?
The program still works without the manpage present. How does
On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 03:26:57PM +0100, Stephan Kulow wrote:
> This has nothing to do with that. The reason the docs are split out is that
> PolicyKit is a pretty basic package required by many other packages for
> building. And if such a basic package requires texlive to build, we have to
> w
On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 10:30:50AM -0500, James Tremblay wrote:
> I think the reason for a 128 base package request might have something
> to do with KIWI,
> in order to support a Wyse terminal with the best local video,sound and
> app support is to have a network independent "thin client" it can
>
Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am Freitag 28 Dezember 2007 schrieb Rajko M.:
On Thursday 27 December 2007 07:22:13 pm Joerg Mayer wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 06:29:36PM -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
While it may in may cases be OK to not include additional
documentation in the base package, t
Am Freitag 28 Dezember 2007 schrieb Rajko M.:
> On Thursday 27 December 2007 07:22:13 pm Joerg Mayer wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 06:29:36PM -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
> > > > While it may in may cases be OK to not include additional
> > > > documentation in the base package, the manpages need to
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 08:43:29PM -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
> I can understand that, as I am heavy user of man pages, but there was a
> pressure to make distro smaller. What was behind wasn't explained, but the
> goal was set to 128 MB for the very base system and AJ email appeared to be
> very serio
"Rajko M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Removing manpages is a broken concept: They are needed to actually
>> use the programs. Additional documentation may well be moved into
>> another package, but not manpages. That's similar to removing the
>> --help part from the binaries to make them smalle
On Thursday 27 December 2007 07:22:13 pm Joerg Mayer wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 06:29:36PM -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
> > > While it may in may cases be OK to not include additional documentation
> > > in the base package, the manpages need to stay there - no matter what
> > > that means for the
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 06:29:36PM -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
> > While it may in may cases be OK to not include additional documentation
> > in the base package, the manpages need to stay there - no matter what
> > that means for the build process.
> So far I recall there was idea to remove documents
On Wednesday 26 December 2007 12:00:10 pm Joerg Mayer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd just discuss something that I got hit with:
> The PolicyKit package no longer contains the manpages - if you want them
> you need to install PolicyKit-doc as well.
> IMO, this is a *relly* *really* ... *really* wrong decisio
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 01:46:47PM +0100, jdd wrote:
> * Sat Aug 11 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - Make separate spec file for PolicyKit-doc so that PolicyKit does
> not require TeX for building.
> >>>This is because TeX stuff is **huge**.
> >>and use of TeX for man pages is incredible...
* Cristian Rodríguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-27 08:35]:
> Joerg Mayer escribió:
>
> > * Sat Aug 11 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > - Make separate spec file for PolicyKit-doc so that PolicyKit does
> > not require TeX for building.
>
> This is because TeX stuff is **huge**.
And needed only at
Kay Sievers wrote:
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 09:31 +0100, jdd wrote:
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Joerg Mayer escribió:
* Sat Aug 11 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Make separate spec file for PolicyKit-doc so that PolicyKit does
not require TeX for building.
This is because TeX stuff is **huge**.
and
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 04:35 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
> Joerg Mayer escribió:
>
> > * Sat Aug 11 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > - Make separate spec file for PolicyKit-doc so that PolicyKit does
> > not require TeX for building.
>
> This is because TeX stuff is **huge**.
That's a very weird
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 09:31 +0100, jdd wrote:
> Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
> > Joerg Mayer escribió:
> >
> >> * Sat Aug 11 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> - Make separate spec file for PolicyKit-doc so that PolicyKit does
> >> not require TeX for building.
> >
> > This is because TeX stuff is **huge
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Joerg Mayer escribió:
* Sat Aug 11 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Make separate spec file for PolicyKit-doc so that PolicyKit does
not require TeX for building.
This is because TeX stuff is **huge**.
and use of TeX for man pages is incredible...
jdd
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http://www.do
Joerg Mayer escribió:
> * Sat Aug 11 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - Make separate spec file for PolicyKit-doc so that PolicyKit does
> not require TeX for building.
This is because TeX stuff is **huge**.
--
"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." -
Albert Einstein
Cri
Hi,
I'd just discuss something that I got hit with:
The PolicyKit package no longer contains the manpages - if you want them
you need to install PolicyKit-doc as well.
IMO, this is a *relly* *really* ... *really* wrong decision, which was
obviously made because of *build* reasons:
* Sat Aug 11 20
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