Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Jason from Shenzhen

2010-07-18 Thread jason duhamell
That is easy for somebody to say like you. Can anybody else on this mailing list say they found the ar2317 datasheet over the internet? What is your definition of many? My experience comes from living in china for 3 years. Statistically most chinese universities don't do anything with linux. On Su

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Jason from Shenzhen

2010-07-17 Thread tedunix
Thanks for sharing documents, Jason. In fact, the document can easily get from the Internet; Addtionally, you probably don't know about China and chinese's college education, nowadays, many universities have offered course about linux. Maybe you don't find the right people. 2010/7/17 linux_pro

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Jason from Shenzhen

2010-07-16 Thread linux_pro
In China, this datasheet is full of the underground market. Just openwrt not made it. I believe that not only China, the more countries there is such a thing. thanks jason. thanks florian. 2010/7/16 Spudz76 > They have these datasheets and STILL can't do it. ouch. > > jason duhamell wrote: > >

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Jason from Shenzhen

2010-07-16 Thread Spudz76
They have these datasheets and STILL can't do it. ouch. jason duhamell wrote: I would like to hire people to move to china, I am sick of the people building stuff not knowing what they are building. Education is a huge problem in china and not many universities teach linux. If anybody would l

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Jason from Shenzhen

2010-07-16 Thread jason duhamell
I would like to hire people to move to china, I am sick of the people building stuff not knowing what they are building. Education is a huge problem in china and not many universities teach linux. If anybody would like to discuss that, feel free to join in the conversation. On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Jason from Shenzhen

2010-07-16 Thread Spudz76
I'm positive it's not his own NDA that is being violated, he's just resourceful and weird things happen in China. He never made such an agreement and is not bound by the scary little grey watermarks, and neither are we. The only people or projects at any real risk here are whoever leaked it a

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Jason from Shenzhen

2010-07-16 Thread Spudz76
Yeah, but after the first 3 months either you already got copied or the competition already caught up, so I can see maybe not releasing them immediately but a year or two after the product is no longer fresh they should still release this stuff freely. Even if they keep the physical pinout and

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Jason from Shenzhen

2010-07-16 Thread jason duhamell
its the apple vs microsoft issue back from the 1980's when apple wanted to restrict its prices and sales to only a few people. Microsoft flooded the market with windows and let anybody make software for it. Apple at that time was chasing pirates and forcing their market to shrink. On Fri, Jul 16,

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Jason from Shenzhen

2010-07-16 Thread Florian Fainelli
On Friday 16 July 2010 15:05:51 jason duhamell wrote: > fuck them. open source all the way. You can express your point of view, I do not really care, but you do not have to impact the project in its whole by violating your own NDA and pushing such a datasheet in a public mailing-list. What happ

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Jason from Shenzhen

2010-07-16 Thread jason duhamell
to protect their customers competition I guess. but its easier to steal then to invent and releasing datasheets could only help their sales, not damage it. its just 1980's anti business thinking. On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Spudz76 wrote: > Still wonder why they make these so hard to get an

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Jason from Shenzhen

2010-07-16 Thread Spudz76
Still wonder why they make these so hard to get and mark them obnoxiously like it's going to burn down their company if the "wrong people" get their hands on them. jason duhamell wrote: ar2317 datasheet ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@l

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Jason from Shenzhen

2010-07-16 Thread jason duhamell
fuck them. open source all the way. On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Florian Fainelli wrote: > On Friday 16 July 2010 14:59:03 Roman Yeryomin wrote: > > Thanks Jason, datasheet is always valuable stuff! > > Yeah especially if you are not allowed to distribute it. > > Please send such stuff in pri

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Jason from Shenzhen

2010-07-16 Thread Florian Fainelli
On Friday 16 July 2010 14:59:03 Roman Yeryomin wrote: > Thanks Jason, datasheet is always valuable stuff! Yeah especially if you are not allowed to distribute it. Please send such stuff in private in order not to compromise the project with potential legal issues. -- Florian

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Jason from Shenzhen

2010-07-16 Thread Roman Yeryomin
Thanks Jason, datasheet is always valuable stuff! On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:39 PM, jason duhamell wrote: > ar2317 datasheet ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel