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2001-09-05 Thread Yosi Greenfield
I was away, and when I came back responded with the following, which the list bounced because of the V-word! How dare I take a v.! Here it was, with a few words now slightly touched up: Aw man, I was on v*a*c_a.t_i*o*n and missed the whole thing! Perkins Pond, Sunapee, New Hampshire.

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2001-09-05 Thread Ken Janusz
Did you stop by Portsmouth and visit my old friend the USS Albacore (AGSS-569)? Ken Janusz, CPIM Database Conversion Lead Sufficient Systems, Inc. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:16 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I was away, and when I came back

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2001-09-05 Thread Yosi Greenfield
Nope, not really nearby. Same state and all that, but not nearby. Heck, we barely visited the people on the farm up the road. But I'm sure the Albacore misses you! Ken Janusz wrote: Did you stop by Portsmouth and visit my old friend the USS Albacore (AGSS-569)? Ken Janusz, CPIM Database

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2001-09-05 Thread Arich Henneman
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2001-09-05 Thread Arich Henneman
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2001-09-05 Thread Arich Henneman
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2001-09-04 Thread Lester Lewis
Hope that I'm not to late. For evil to succeed, all we need is for good men to do nothing. I'm in for $20 and let me know if you decide on a monthly subscription. Lewie -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

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2001-08-31 Thread Luis DeUrioste
Hope I'm not too late, Im in $20 to start and a monthly fee if needed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, now that I have your attention, please read the following message from Bruce Bergman, owner of fatcity.com. It concerns the future of this list. Please read the entire message before

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2001-08-30 Thread Jan Pruner
May be I'm a naive idiot (Forrest Gump :-)), but have somebody asked Oracle to sponzor this community of Oracle users? Jan Pruner -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jan Pruner INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051

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2001-08-30 Thread Andrey Bronfin
I'm in too DBAndrey * 03-9254520 * 053-464562 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:28 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hola, I think a subscription is the best solution. I have learned too much reading the solutions to the

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2001-08-30 Thread Rachel Carmichael
longer than Bruce has at the moment. From: Jan Pruner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: !! *Very* important Oracle-L message !! Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:30:23 -0800 May be I'm a naive idiot (Forrest Gump

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2001-08-30 Thread Dias Costa
Jared, I'm in for $12. Dias Costa -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Dias Costa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists

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2001-08-30 Thread Dias Costa
Do I have an Amen? Yes ! Orr, Steve wrote: I like Jeremiah's idea. All the sermonizing about the value of the list and how we should be required to put something in the offering basket is just so much preaching to the choir. :-) I would gladly pay a subscription fee because I

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2001-08-30 Thread Walthour, Jon (GEAE, Compaq)
I don't think they would agree to that as they would point to MetaLink. Jon Walthour -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 3:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L May be I'm a naive idiot (Forrest Gump :-)), but have somebody asked Oracle to sponzor this

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2001-08-30 Thread Hatzistavrou Giannis
Oracle-L message !! Ok, now that I have your attention, please read the following message from Bruce Bergman, owner of fatcity.com. It concerns the future of this list. Please read the entire message before replying. Thank you. Jared Still ( List Owner

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2001-08-30 Thread Joan Hsieh
Count me in. While I have time to read the list, I always enjoy it. Joan Hsieh DBA-ocp 78 617-627-5032 Andrey Bronfin wrote: I'm in too DBAndrey * 03-9254520 * 053-464562 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:28 PM To: Multiple

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2001-08-30 Thread Cornio, Georgette Ms USACFSC
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: !! *Very* important Oracle-L message !! Can we just start pledging ..We have got to keep this form going under. Ideas . Anjan Jenner Mike wrote: -Original Message- Sent: 28 August 2001 23:29 To: Multiple

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2001-08-30 Thread Anjan Thakuria
I agree. Anjan mohammed bhatti wrote: my 2 cents. i think it was re-iterated that payment was not necessary so i don't think folks should feel guilty if they can't pay. we're throwing out figures like $10, $20, $50 etc. for us in the US, this is barely the cost of lunch or dinner, so

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2001-08-30 Thread ph
Count me in! === Patrick Housholder Sr. Staff Engr Sim Fleet. United Airlines Flight Training Center Denver CO -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: ph INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051

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2001-08-30 Thread Jonathan Gennick
I'll throw in $20. Let me know where to send it. Best regards, Jonathan Gennick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * 906.387.1698 http://Gennick.com * http://MichiganWaterfalls.com * http://MetalDrums.org -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jonathan Gennick

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2001-08-30 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Let's start a campaign for Hunger ! -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:28 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I'll throw in $20. Let me know where to send it. Best regards, Jonathan Gennick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * 906.387.1698 http://Gennick.com *

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2001-08-30 Thread Hand, Michael T
I will weigh in for a one-time contribution. Thumbs-down on the complexity of managing a subscription. Since there seems to be some concern confusion about the value of money (US$20) and exchange rates (with an undercurrent of the ability of all to pay), perhaps a different yard stick is in

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2001-08-30 Thread Ron Rogers
It is very interesting and informative reading the replies to the original request. I did not know how diverse this list is as a lot of responders to the email are normally quiet and on the sidelines. ROR mô¿ôm -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron

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2001-08-30 Thread Jared . Still
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2001-08-30 Thread Jerry C
http://www.thehungersite.com/ - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:21 PM Let's start a campaign for Hunger ! -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:28 PM To: Multiple recipients of

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2001-08-30 Thread Scott Graves
PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: !! *Very* important Oracle-L message !! Ok, now that I have your attention, please read the following message from Bruce Bergman, owner of fatcity.com. It concerns the future of this list. Please read the entire message before replying

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2001-08-29 Thread Jenner Mike
-Original Message- Sent: 28 August 2001 23:29 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ok, now that I have your attention, please read the following message from Bruce Bergman, owner of fatcity.com. It concerns the future of this list. Please read the entire message before

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2001-08-29 Thread DBarbour
I didn't put OT in the header because I think this is very on topic. I will be emailing Bruce to see what he needs, or feels is a fair contribution for my participation in this list through the years. I have gained so much from the members of this list. Without those who participate, both

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2001-08-29 Thread Anjan Thakuria
Can we just start pledging ..We have got to keep this form going under. Ideas . Anjan Jenner Mike wrote: -Original Message- Sent: 28 August 2001 23:29 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ok, now that I have your attention, please read the following message from Bruce

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2001-08-29 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
On my web page I maintain an Amazon.com payments paybox, which is for collecting anonymous donations. I think if Bruce sets up a paybox for each list he hosts free of charge, and included a pledge request in the list footers, there will be a steady stream of donations. Amazon calls this the

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2001-08-29 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Oracle-L message !! Can we just start pledging ..We have got to keep this form going under. Ideas . Anjan Jenner Mike wrote: -Original Message- Sent: 28 August 2001 23:29 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ok, now that I have your attention, please read

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2001-08-29 Thread Valuthur, Srikanth
I agree to David. We should basically have Bruce decide what is the amount needed to maintain this list. Also I would think since most of us are using this site on a day to day basis, It wouldnt be fair that one person paying 25$ and another person pays nothing. My 2 cents would be Since Bruce

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2001-08-29 Thread John Carlson
As I see it, he needs $500 per month for 4 or 5 months. Lets just round that to 6 months times $500 or $3000. I don't know how many people are on his 60+ mailing list but just guessing, I believe if only 1/4th the people contributed $1 per month for 6 months or just $6 that would cover it.

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2001-08-29 Thread John Kanagaraj
** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: !! *Very* important Oracle-L message !! Ok, now that I have your attention, please read the following message from Bruce

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2001-08-29 Thread Cherie_Machler
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2001-08-29 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe
I think a subscription is a decent suggestion. I know Bruce wants to keep it free but it still sounds the most feasible to me. After all the electronic friends I have made on the list, and of course its primary aim as a second-to-none technical resource/forum, I would hate to see it go. Regards

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2001-08-29 Thread Rodd Holman
I also would be willing to pay a annual/monthly subscription fee. Rodd Holman Original Message On 8/29/01, 1:10:59 PM, Kathy Duret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding RE: !! *Very* important Oracle-L message !!: IMHO How about a monthly and a yearly subscription fee. So newbies could

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2001-08-29 Thread Scott Shafer
Just shoot me an email if you get to San Antonio. We could even meet for a long lunch in New Braunfels or sumthin', as I live an work in the NE part of SA. That goes for anyone in the area. My schedule keeps me hopping, but I can usually break free for a time. Scott Shafer San Antonio, TX w:

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2001-08-29 Thread James Howerton
Jared, I'm in for $12. Jim Howerton Senior Oracle DBA University of Alabama at Birmingham Health System Information Services e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] v: 205-934-9111 f: 205-934-0632 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: James Howerton INET: [EMAIL

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2001-08-29 Thread Riyaj_Shamsudeen
] cc: Subject:Re: !! *Very* important Oracle-L message !! As I see it, he needs $500 per month for 4 or 5 months. Lets just round that to 6 months times $500 or $3000. I don't know how many people are on his 60+ mailing list but just guessing, I believe if only 1/4th the people

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2001-08-29 Thread Kirsch, Walter J, PERSCOM
Yes. $25 one-shot, $25 a year or my fair share -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ok, now that I have your attention, please read the following message from Bruce Bergman, owner of fatcity.com. It concerns the future of

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2001-08-29 Thread Orr, Steve
I like Jeremiah's idea. All the sermonizing about the value of the list and how we should be required to put something in the offering basket is just so much preaching to the choir. :-) I would gladly pay a subscription fee because I understand the value of the list after having been on it a

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2001-08-29 Thread Cornio, Georgette Ms USACFSC
Count me IN ... -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 15:22 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Yes. $25 one-shot, $25 a year or my fair share -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ok, now that

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2001-08-29 Thread Jan Pruner
There is no problem with subscription of today's user. I will pay too because I find this list excelent. But what about new users? If I find a new list server with subscription, I will never pay to try if is it valuable or not. I think that free subscription is better way 'cause mail list is

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2001-08-29 Thread Ramon Estevez
Hola, I think a subscription is the best solution. I have learned too much reading the solutions to the posts that everyday show up, and mines too. Can count on me !!! Regards, Ramon E. Estevez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dominican Republic 809-565-3121 -Original Message- Sent: 28 August

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2001-08-29 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
This definitely the best Oracle list. Any chance of hacing the IOUG-A to sponsor it? I remember quite a few years back the IOUG was sponsoring a Compuserve list run by Chris Wooleridge. Chris, one of the first Oracle employees, was enjoying the financial benefits thereof, living the good

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2001-08-29 Thread Jeroen van Sluisdam
Amen, I agree -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Orr, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: woensdag 29 augustus 2001 22:06 Aan: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Onderwerp: RE: !! *Very* important Oracle-L message !! I like Jeremiah's idea. All the sermonizing about the value

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2001-08-29 Thread Chepuri Pramo (AP/QSW3, AB/QSW3)
I'd be willing to pay a monthly/yearly subscription fee. pramo Original Message On 8/29/01, 1:10:59 PM, Kathy Duret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding RE: !! *Very* important Oracle-L message !!: IMHO How about a monthly and a yearly subscription fee. So newbies could join and pay

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2001-08-29 Thread George Hofilena
AMEN to that. George -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:06 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I like Jeremiah's idea. All the sermonizing about the value of the list and how we should be required to put something in the offering basket is just so much

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2001-08-29 Thread Kevin Hedger
I think keeping the list free is the way to go. My reasoning behind this is that newbees to the list, like myself, don't know the benefits they will reap from a list such as this until they use it. They will just use another list that doesn't charge. Some of you might think this is a good

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2001-08-29 Thread mohammed bhatti
my 2 cents. i think it was re-iterated that payment was not necessary so i don't think folks should feel guilty if they can't pay. we're throwing out figures like $10, $20, $50 etc. for us in the US, this is barely the cost of lunch or dinner, so no big deal. but some other folks in other

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2001-08-29 Thread Joe Testa
I also have a question, who besides myself have multiple(i think i use 4 a/o today) email accts to post from, how will we handle that concept, would I need to pay 4 times(i'm thinking not, but how could we tell if its the same person?). joe -- Joe Testa Performing Remote DBA Services, need

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2001-08-29 Thread John Lewis
we're throwing out figures like $10, $20, $50 etc. for us in the US, this is barely the cost of lunch or dinner, Your lunches must be REAL nice. Is that with or without the wine? ;-) (The place I usually eat has beans and rice with 4 corn tortillas for $3. And its in a downtown area)

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2001-08-29 Thread Rachel Carmichael
of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: !! *Very* important Oracle-L message !! Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:58:27 -0800 we're throwing out figures like $10, $20, $50 etc. for us in the US, this is barely the cost of lunch or dinner, Your lunches must be REAL nice. Is that with or without

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2001-08-29 Thread Sujatha Madan
: !! *Very* important Oracle-L message !! Can we just start pledging ..We have got to keep this form going under. Ideas . Anjan Jenner Mike wrote: -Original Message- Sent: 28 August 2001 23:29 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ok, now that I have your

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2001-08-29 Thread Viraj Luthra
Jared, Please suggest an Aussie rate for contributions. May be we from Australia could contribute $AUD30 or so( I could do may be more, when my next sal comes), what ever, I Here by Pledge my Allegiance.. This list is good has helped me a lot in the past, and I will endeavour... what ever

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2001-08-28 Thread Jared . Still
Ok, now that I have your attention, please read the following message from Bruce Bergman, owner of fatcity.com. It concerns the future of this list. Please read the entire message before replying. Thank you. Jared Still ( List Owner ) --- Hello

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2001-08-28 Thread Greg Moore
The idea of starting an internet hosting business right now sounds crazy. But there are probably a lot of sites, like you, abandoned by failing providers. If you have a way of contacting them it might actually turn out to be a good idea Talk about lemons to lemonaid - if you pull this off