[OGD] enough is too much

2004-12-18 Thread peter croezen
An orchid forum, this is supposed to be. From politics to religion to poetry, most of ushave been yourverytolerant and patient audience, but enough is too much! You know who you are; please take your non-orchid soapbox topics somewhere else!! peter

[OGD] Re: Water Quality

2004-12-18 Thread Sharon Williams
Hi Iris: Thanks for your input. I had the collected rain water tested for EC and it was only 10ppm -much better than our tap water at 200ppm. Our hot water is attached to a water softener, so that nixes the idea of using hot water! A dehumidifier in Calgary is wish -the air here is so dry

[OGD] Re: Copepods

2004-12-18 Thread IrisCohen
In a message dated 12/13/04 3:11:14 PM, Julie writes: Why would copepods drive ultras nuts? (and those copepods that have the ultra-Orthodox in NYC in a tizzy). (Iris) I don't think this will cause any flames. For the curious: As most of you probably know already, shellfish are not kosher.

[OGD] Re: Conco-bellatulum

2004-12-18 Thread IrisCohen
In a message dated 12/11/04 6:03:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way, does anyone have any pictures of the hybrid paph between concolor and bellatulum? I know that there are pictures on the internet, but I want a picture from someone who has made the hybrid from two known clean species

[OGD] The Evolution of Thought

2004-12-18 Thread greig russell
Dennis Westler's eloquent contribution in Vol 6/33, as well as the various follow-ups were most welcome. Creationism seems to me to be the refuge of those who are lazy of thought. My own penny's worth includes: Firstly, biology only makes any sense when viewed against a backdrop of

[OGD] Re: Copepods

2004-12-18 Thread IrisCohen
In a message dated 12/13/04 6:23:17 PM, Clyde McAllister writes: I thought a copepod was at about the level of a high-end rotifer, several phyla away from the guys whose tails we dip into the cocktail sauce. Copepods are crustaceans. If you look at pictures, you can see the family resemblance to

[OGD] Hawaii

2004-12-18 Thread Gerald H Fisher
Mary and I would like to visit the islands for the flowers. Being retired we can go at any time. What is the best time of the year - for what flowers? Bill, ask Sibelius to drop me a line - if he or Doris won't then I guess I am stuck with you. Anyone else with wisdom please feel free to jump

[OGD] A Pom is.......

2004-12-18 Thread Andy Easton
Title: A Pom is... Well Julie, no need to answer you privately. The term Pom came from prisoners who were sent from England to Australia several hundred years ago. They wore prison garb with the initials P.O.M.E stamped on it meaning Prisoner of Mother England. Or so the story goes. In

Re: [OGD] Re: Dennis/Evolution

2004-12-18 Thread Steve Topletz
Marianne, et al You would do well to heed your own advice: I would greatly appreciate it if people who do lip service to their religions would deepen their knowledge through study and thinking. Your benighted summary of Judaism and Islam is just as offensive as fanatic diatribe: The Old

[OGD] Kant, Beauty, and Orchid Judging

2004-12-18 Thread marianne.fleurimont
As to Kant: (i) Dependent beauty appeals to the perfection of a type. The section immediately preceding ยง16 is entitled, A Judgment of Taste is Wholly Independent of the Concept of Perfection. It is in part a direct response to Alexander Baumgarten,8 but it is also a powerful and sophisticated

Re: [OGD] Oh Steve -read the book!

2004-12-18 Thread Sandy Gillians
Oh Lord, now they're quoting scriptures. GROAN Not that I disagree with you Sharon*, but do you know what a can of worms you've just opened up??? Pass the popcorn, please. Sandy *well, except for the fact that God is female and should rightly be referred to as She and Her, not He and Him

[OGD] Google to scan books from five major libraries

2004-12-18 Thread Harvey Brenneise
For anyone interested in libraries, information, etc., I think the following is an important announcement. I had expected that sooner or later all or most of the pre-1923 (with that date to eventually move forward) books in libraries would be scanned and made available on the web (free or by

[OGD] Re: Environmental protection

2004-12-18 Thread Sharon Williams
Please all remember that not ALL Christians espouse the views represented as being 'from the Christian right' in the article, and very many are as horrified by these as the author. We need to search for and develop the things that bind us together in this world to counter the growing forces

Re: [OGD] Evolution....

2004-12-18 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Bravo! - Original Message - From: e.muehlbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 4:02 AM Subject: [OGD] Evolution Any orchid lover should be fully appreciative of the process of evolutionand yes, despite the label theory, evolution is, in

Re: [OGD] Re: Dennis/Evolution

2004-12-18 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Dear Mr. Toletz, I believe you misread my ideas. The idea was not to discredit the Jewish religion or to support the Christian. I am only a history student and an agnostic. I only ask that people who say they believe should be consistent with their own religions, and that as Christians, those

[OGD] Rapid orchid evolution?

2004-12-18 Thread Steven Beckendorf
Sandy Gillians wrote: Question: Does that mean that orchids evolve faster than the creatures that pollinate them, to keep ahead of competitors? And if so, is this in any way unusual in the plant kingdom? It's hard to measure the rate of evolution, but one thing that orchids do well, make a lot of

Re: [OGD] Orchids and literature

2004-12-18 Thread marianne.fleurimont
Dear Viateur, I am familiar with Huysmans' chapter on orchids. Colette's I havent read yet. Huysmans: This admirable artistry (artificial flowers) had long enthralled him, but now he dreamt of collecting another kind of flora: tired of artificial flowers aping real ones, he wanted some natural

Re: [OGD] Re: twisted flowers (was Evolution of Ludisia)

2004-12-18 Thread Prem Subrahmanyam
At 10:22 PM 12/15/2004 -0500, you wrote: Prem wrote: Also, Tipularia discolor, native to the eastern United States, has asymmetrical flowers with the lip askew one direction and the dorsal sepal and petals skewed the other direction. I seem to recall reading that T. discolor is pollinated by