RE: JSP vs Servlet

2001-01-05 Thread Duffey, Kevin
far seen examples of JSP without any comments in it, and have done so myself for the most part). > -Original Message- > From: Fyffe Carl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 12:34 PM > To: Orion-Interest > Subject: RE: JSP vs Servlet > > >

RE: JSP vs Servlet

2001-01-05 Thread Fyffe Carl
es are watching :) --Carl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Sell Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 3:11 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: JSP vs Servlet > Anyway, IMHO adding a methodology on top of the purpose of the article - >

RE: JSP vs Servlet

2001-01-05 Thread Kevin Duffey
e- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kemp > Randy-W18971 > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 6:16 AM > To: Orion-Interest > Subject: RE: JSP vs Servlet > > > I did address this same question to the folks at www.jollem.com > and their sugg

RE: JSP vs Servlet MVC - CMV

2001-01-05 Thread Kevin Duffey
d VCM. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Juan Lorandi > (Chile) > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 7:59 AM > To: Orion-Interest > Subject: RE: JSP vs Servlet MVC - CMV > > > it's a circular pattern... > you

RE: JSP vs Servlet

2001-01-05 Thread Tony Wilson
In general, you can consider JSPs the easy way to make a servlet. Basically, it becomes a matter of location of files. The way I suggest doing it (and we do on our projects) is to have all of the 'GUI'(or html) portions of the JSP in a separate location. We have our top level 'logic' jsp's in

RE: JSP vs Servlet MVC - CMV

2001-01-05 Thread Juan Lorandi (Chile)
Sent: Viernes, 05 de Enero de 2001 9:25 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: JSP vs Servlet MVC - CMV I've seen the abbreviation MVC on a lot of places, but shouldn't it be CMV for Controller / Model / View where Controller receives a request, handles it using model and displays it using

RE: JSP vs Servlet MVC - CMV

2001-01-05 Thread Amir Yasin
my 2 cents, Amir -Original Message- From: Johan Fredriksson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 6:25 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: JSP vs Servlet MVC - CMV I've seen the abbreviation MVC on a lot of places, but shouldn't it be CMV for Controller /

RE: JSP vs Servlet

2001-01-05 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: JSP vs Servlet Interesting point. I agree, and infact I found the CMP primer a bit hard to read because it wasn't so clean (as far as the code used). However, for the sake of brevity I am sure they had to cut corners so as not to have a 200-page book. I would have

RE: JSP vs Servlet

2001-01-05 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
I did address this same question to the folks at www.jollem.com and their suggestion, which was a fine one, was to create a tutorial. Jollem has a mechanism in place to create tutorials (see website). Since I am not an expert, I would ask if some expert (with some spare time) could show us ho

RE: JSP vs Servlet

2001-01-05 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
, etc.) to see how the pieces fit together. -Original Message- From: Christian Sell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 5:11 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: JSP vs Servlet > Anyway, IMHO adding a methodology on top of the purpose of the article - > showing t

Re: JSP vs Servlet MVC - CMV

2001-01-05 Thread Johan Fredriksson
I've seen the abbreviation MVC on a lot of places, but shouldn't it be CMV for Controller / Model / View where Controller receives a request, handles it using model and displays it using view? Not important to me, just wondered... =) //Johan - Original Message - From: "Fyffe Carl

Re: JSP vs Servlet

2001-01-05 Thread Christian Sell
> Anyway, IMHO adding a methodology on top of the purpose of the article - > showing the CMP stuff - would have been yet more to learn. I'm of the > opinion that something like that needs to show off one aspect of the > technology rather than all aspects, so MVC - while useful - would have > been

Re: JSP vs Servlet

2001-01-05 Thread Joseph B. Ottinger
Well, Ernst did a fine job, but it'd be better if he'd done those things in XML... *runs* Anyway, IMHO adding a methodology on top of the purpose of the article - showing the CMP stuff - would have been yet more to learn. I'm of the opinion that something like that needs to show off one aspect o

RE: JSP vs Servlet

2001-01-04 Thread Kevin Duffey
Interesting point. I agree, and infact I found the CMP primer a bit hard to read because it wasn't so clean (as far as the code used). However, for the sake of brevity I am sure they had to cut corners so as not to have a 200-page book. I would have liked to seen a bit more detail and info on the