Re: [osdcmy-public] Open Source Progress in Malaysia

2009-12-22 Terurut Topik Raja Iskandar Shah
portal http://www.treasury.gov.my/ case study http://knowledge.oscc.org.my/practice-areas/government/2008-oss-case-studies/32.perkasa-mof.pdf/view united nations e-government survey 2008: malaysia ranked 17 http://www.unpan.org/egovkb/global_reports/08report.htm Although the majority of the count

Re: [osdcmy-public] Open Source Progress in Malaysia

2009-12-22 Terurut Topik rafe azsnal
Brothers, How do relate cost factor versus OSS? Trying not to be an a** here but looking at business model it is more less the same as those proprietary. But I do agreed with you that by the end of the day is how would you convince the decisions makers. is it safe for me to say that 90% of the OSS

Re: [osdcmy-public] Open Source Progress in Malaysia

2009-12-22 Terurut Topik Azrul Hasni MADISA
Who leads the internal team? We should have him on OSCONF. Azrul On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Kamal Fariz wrote: > Which portal would that be? Gov.my? > > > On 22-Dec-2009, at 3:06 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah > wrote: > > well, i have more news to scare the shit out of the vendors > > the numbe

Re: [osdcmy-public] Open Source Progress in Malaysia

2009-12-21 Terurut Topik Kamal Fariz
Which portal would that be? Gov.my? On 22-Dec-2009, at 3:06 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: well, i have more news to scare the shit out of the vendors the number 1 government portal in malaysia was implemented inhouse by the agency. this included the cms and load balancing - handling 1 million h

Re: [osdcmy-public] Open Source Progress in Malaysia

2009-12-21 Terurut Topik Eric Yeoh
Indeed that is good news Eric On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: > well, i have more news to scare the shit out of the vendors > > the number 1 government portal in malaysia was implemented inhouse by the > agency. this included the cms and load balancing - handling

Re: [osdcmy-public] Open Source Progress in Malaysia

2009-12-21 Terurut Topik Raja Iskandar Shah
well, i have more news to scare the shit out of the vendors the number 1 government portal in malaysia was implemented inhouse by the agency. this included the cms and load balancing - handling 1 million hits. rated top by mdec. and rated highly in the world by united nations. that i would call a

Re: [osdcmy-public] Open Source Progress in Malaysia

2009-12-21 Terurut Topik Eric Yeoh
Gotta start at the school and tertiary levels. Most of the lecturers will only know how to code with MS technologies. Linux Varsiti is a good attempt but there needs to be a more centralised and concerted attempt. As for Govt, well they will just outsource (good news for service providers!). If n

Re: [osdcmy-public] Open Source Progress in Malaysia

2009-12-21 Terurut Topik Eric Yeoh
Red1, It will scare the sh*t of those bureaucrats to get feedback from the rakyat. Same reason why Warkah for PM site went down so soon. They just couldn't handle the truth; or more appropriately the volume of the truth The Pau lady, nothing bad to say about that coz it was genuinely a good r

Re: [osdcmy-public] Open Source Progress in Malaysia

2009-12-21 Terurut Topik red1
One good idea is to do what the main trunk of the govt is doing - hold an exhibition of your NKRAs and explain to the crowd so that it reflects the excitement as it should. Otherwise we have to depend on the 5,000 per day 'pau' lady. Come to think of it why didn't the govt allow open blogging

Re: [osdcmy-public] Open Source Progress in Malaysia

2009-12-21 Terurut Topik Raja Iskandar Shah
ooopppss... sorry tertinggal. the other reason for oss: 1. repo : why go to website, download software then double-click ? when a person can simply apt-get or yum on one line ? and it automatically checks for all dependencies ! or set-up your own repo server, and update hundreds of se

Re: [osdcmy-public] Open Source Progress in Malaysia

2009-12-21 Terurut Topik Raja Iskandar Shah
current experience with 2 ministries in putrajaya ministry #1 - tender specifically requests for oss. besides cost, the purpose is not to be locked down with licensing. and they can share with the 6 agencies under them. ministry #2 - already knew what feature was needed and required oss so that t

Re: [osdcmy-public] Open Source Progress in Malaysia

2009-12-21 Terurut Topik Eric Yeoh
Brian, I am sure he does. Since I was in R&D and now in Training, I never really got around looking at the numbers properly. Although I can never attest to its authenticity (or otherwise), from my experience dealing with agencies, there is seems to be a genuine interest in FOSS. As mentioned, I

Re: [osdcmy-public] Open Source Progress in Malaysia

2009-12-21 Terurut Topik BRIAN RITCHIE
Eric, I am sure we can get Kaeru to revert on this if it is indeed his figures. Kaeru has a good sense of economics based on our previous encounters so I am sure he has a valid source if so. On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Eric Yeoh wrote: > Brian, > > A lot of the stuff are plucked from kae

Re: [osdcmy-public] Open Source Progress in Malaysia

2009-12-21 Terurut Topik Eric Yeoh
Brian, A lot of the stuff are plucked from kaeru's figures...maybe it's time to ask how he arrived at those numbers. Eric On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:35 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE wrote: > Azrul, > > Great point raised in the last paragraph about more relevant studies. Do > we have a detailed before an

Re: [osdcmy-public] Open Source Progress in Malaysia

2009-12-21 Terurut Topik Eric Yeoh
Azrul, Couldn't agree more. However, there are business rules we apply here to get the numbers. Installing a single instance of OO.o really doesn't even register on our radar. We are looking at the very least one FOSS stack on the back end. Yeah one might not be much in a data centre of maybe a

Re: [osdcmy-public] Open Source Progress in Malaysia

2009-12-20 Terurut Topik BRIAN RITCHIE
Azrul, Great point raised in the last paragraph about more relevant studies. Do we have a detailed before and after statistic on this out of curiosity ? On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Azrul Hasni MADISA wrote: > I promise myself not to bitch too much but this is such a troll bait, I > have t

Re: [osdcmy-public] Open Source Progress in Malaysia

2009-12-20 Terurut Topik Azrul Hasni MADISA
I promise myself not to bitch too much but this is such a troll bait, I have to bite. Disclaimer: I'm not trying to belittle OSCC here, it's just that I believe that claims must be backed by facts, not just some numbers plucked from the air (maybe the facts are there that I just couldn't find it,

[osdcmy-public] Open Source Progress in Malaysia

2009-12-20 Terurut Topik red1
Better bitch about our own country then pitch for the world. :) The world is taking notice of us > http://www.opensource.org/node/489 Open Source Progress in Malaysia Thu, 2009-11-05 07:57 — Michael Tiemann Here are some stunning facts that were published at the end of July in Malaysia: