Dear Chris I agree about all you said, especially about the givens. I would
even dare to say that the prework and the discussion there is what opens the
space. What I do at the beginning of an OST meeting is ritual, also important
but still ritual.
Thanks for your story.
Eiwor
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Complettelly in accordance with you, Chris - except maybe in a
small point, that is a different thread inded. I will came back to that.
Let me make a comment on one point and highlight some others.
You wrote (my highlight):
I
fundamentally distrust anyone who makes a concerted effort to cert
Here it comes again :-)
Of course you can never certify someone and by that promise that the person
will behave in a conform way. But I must say that I sometimes have missed some
sort of certificate to at least know that the OS-facilitator have gone through
some sort of training - not that that
Chris:
You were very clear stating that an OST facilitator, or any other
facilitator, can't be certified, because "We are people
whose skill is in responding well to myriad and changing contexts". But you
made an exception to "engineers,
architects or doctors" that, if I understood well, can be c
Eva:
I understand what you are saying. But every point you have mentioned is
very well explained in the User's Guide.
I know that there are people that say that they apply Open Space, and
have never attended one event (not to mention a course) and have never read the
book. But that is something o
Hi Chris:
Nice to see you back to a list were you were once a frequent
contributor, until you had your time and interests diverted to another movement
and list, as you have now explained.
You were not, by the way, the only person that almost disappeared from
this list. In fact, as I see it, it w
Dear Eva,
if you sent me a piece of paper on which you have handdrawn a circle and
written "selforganisation" in Swedish into it, I will certify you for
whatever you want. But dont forget the 5000 Euro.
Cheers
mmp
On 09.08.2013 12:34, Eva P Svensson wrote:
Here it comes again :-)
Of course yo
Dear Artur,
are you certified to read all by yourself?
hugs
mmp
On 09.08.2013 13:27, Artur Silva wrote:
Eva:
I understand what you are saying. But every point you have mentioned is
very well explained in the User's Guide.
I know that there are people that say that they apply Open Space, and
ha
Let me make a correction on this:
Later I have continued to learn in a larger community of practice organized
around 6 professional Congresses, that I have proposed and help organize (from
1980 to 1990) - with equal time for discussion as the overall time for
presenters (that, by the way, prese
Oh, never thought about that, Michael. Probably not!
Artur
From: Michael M Pannwitz
To: Artur Silva ; World wide Open Space Technology email
list
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [OSList] Certification?
Dear Artur,
are you certified to re
To misquote my hero Marx, Groucho that is, I would not be uncertified by any
organisation that would uncertify me
Alan Halford
Facilitator
Mediator
www.alanhalford.com.au/
0421 475 252
On 09/08/2013, at 6:01 PM, Artur Silva wrote:
> Complettelly in accordance with you, Chris - except ma
Dear Michael :-)
Theres a bit more into it isn¨t it...
cheers
:o)
Bästa hälsningar
Eva P Svensson
EPS Human Invest AB
Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc
Medlem i Beyond Performance Group
"Verksamhetsutveckling genom människor skapar långsiktigt välmående företag och
organisationer"
Anåsbe
This pub is getting seriously busy and delightfully noisy. And fortunately
it is sufficiently international to stock some good British Gin - which I am
enjoying in my "usual." Maybe I've had too many "usuals" but it did occur to
me that if somebody had certified me 28 years ago as I was sitting on
Hiya ,Chris!
I have no trouble with givens as a practice. I learned that from Birgitt too
although these days i talk about it as working in context. For me it is all
part of setting the container for the work. In the Art of Hosting workshops
many of us do we spend a lot of time on design, reaso
Harrison, you are most welcome. And most of the differences between our
perspectives could very well be a difference of culture and language.
Have a great weekend
Eiwor
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*Certification*, it keeps coming up and most likely it will keep coming up
as more and more people experience Open Space.
My story is that perhaps if there had been certification in 2009, I might
not have jumped in as I did, recklessly and blissfully. In that first 12 to
16 months, I committed to
The problem, dear colleagues, is that if you fix this as dogma...
For me it all comes down to this:
· 5 Conditions of Use
· A few logistics
· Circle
· 5 Principles
· Law of 2 feet
· Be Prepared to be Surprised
· Trust the People
... Th
Paul it aint Dogma just experience. If the experience changes, change
the story. And that is what we are Story Tellers. And the Tale has yet to
be fully told. One thing I am absolutely clear about. We didnt invent it.
And certainly I didnt invent it. Been going on for 14.7 billion years, a
Dear HO and the rest of OS loving colleagues,
While reading again fully and partly the sharing/discussion on certification
and now this - point of Harrison on "I will be the first to cheer the departure
of OST"
Somehow my poem that I wrote this morning resonates with the ongoing
discussio
My grandmother died recently, and I was unable to attend her funeral
because of distance and timing. I asked if they could record some of the
stories people told, and was told that people felt uncomfortable about
that.
It made me realize that when I die (hopefully not anytime soon...), I'd
like
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