Re: Process in Breakout Groups

2005-11-18 Thread Zelle Nelson
Wow! Lots said. So many wonderful ideas and thoughts! Hooray for the OSLIST!!! I've many things to write all in the spirit of a smile and an arm around the group's shoulders: 1) I second Harrison's thoughts: it has been my experience that even in intensely conflicted situations the groups th

Re: Process in Breakout Groups

2005-11-18 Thread Jimmy Pryor
Thank you all for sharing your experience and wisdom on this issue with me. It is very helpful. Jimmy Pryor * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archi

Re: Process in Breakout Groups

2005-11-18 Thread Harrison Owen
e.fitzpatr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:22 PM To: hho...@verizon.net Cc: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Process in Breakout Groups Like you, Harrison, any time I find myself in a formal Dialogue process, it seems, at least to me, like the dialogue gets hung up on p

Re: Process in Breakout Groups

2005-11-17 Thread Lisa Heft
Hi, Ms. Tree - Tree wrote: Thanks, Lisa, for pointing out that there is a distinction between what the open space practitioner holding space can/should do and what a participant in the open space can/should do. Big difference. Some of my comments blurred that distinction. I don't think your c

Re: Process in Breakout Groups

2005-11-17 Thread Tree Fitzpatrick
Thanks, Lisa, for pointing out that there is a distinction between what the open space practitioner holding space can/should do and what a participant in the open space can/should do. Big difference. Some of my comments blurred that distinction. XO to all. -- Warmly, Tree Fitzpatrick * *

Re: Process in Breakout Groups

2005-11-17 Thread Tree Fitzpatrick
Like you, Harrison, any time I find myself in a formal Dialogue process, it seems, at least to me, like the dialogue gets hung up on process and stultifies the conversation rather than enhancing it. In OS, any participant is free to offer a specific process for their topic/session: there is just

Re: Process in Breakout Groups

2005-11-17 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Jimmy-- After a number of years working as a facilitator with various structured processes, when I began facilitating Open Space, I discovered that the breakout groups could work just fine without more-formal facilitation or structure. For one thing, the groups tend to be smaller. People come

Re: Process in Breakout Groups

2005-11-17 Thread Harrison Owen
17, 2005 4:03 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Process in Breakout Groups Wendy wrote: At 01:21 PM 11/17/2005, you wrote: It sounds to me like you are still struggling under the impression that you are in control. I guess I am imagining myself as a participant that wants to use a slower, mo

Re: Process in Breakout Groups

2005-11-17 Thread Jimmy Pryor-SunBody
Thank you, Tree. That answers my question. I didn't mean to imply that the person opening the space would determine or even suggest the process, but rather the person hosting the session, that would say they wanted to use a particular process: "I have envisioned using OS and allowing those tha

Re: Process in Breakout Groups

2005-11-17 Thread Lisa Heft
Hi, Jimmy - I'm just rereading all these good messages. You wrote: Lisa Heft recommended to me in an off-list email that traditional workshops and speeches not be part of the OS period - do that on the first day of the conference, and OS the second day. To clarify - I mean "invited" and "

Re: Process in Breakout Groups

2005-11-17 Thread Lisa Heft
Great conversation, everybody ! (and I love all the hugging - those of you who know me are probably not surprised about THAT) So it seems to me there are several things we are talking about here. One is if you are the facilitator - the person holding space for the group to do its work. The othe

Re: Process in Breakout Groups

2005-11-17 Thread Jack Ricchiuto
What I love most about open space is the many levels of process freedom that participants empower themselves and each other with ... the open invitation to post freely, to move freely, to record freely, to take responsibility freely, to affiliate and collaborate freely. The process freedom that op

Re: Process in Breakout Groups

2005-11-17 Thread Harrison Owen
[mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Wendy Farmer-O'Neil Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 2:21 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Process in Breakout Groups Hi Jimmy, I agree with Lisa. If you really feel you need to do something like this, do it on the firs

Re: Process in Breakout Groups

2005-11-17 Thread Jimmy Pryor-SunBody
Wendy wrote: At 01:21 PM 11/17/2005, you wrote: It sounds to me like you are still struggling under the impression that you are in control. I guess I am imagining myself as a participant that wants to use a slower, more reflective process to consider a particular topic, rather than a fast and

Re: Process in Breakout Groups

2005-11-17 Thread Tree Fitzpatrick
Jimmy, within the context of an OS event, it would be fine to post a session in the marketplace on the demonstration of process. Then, the right people would show up for that topic and the right things would unfold. As I tried to point out in my last post, it is reasonable for someone holding a s

Process in Breakout Groups

2005-11-17 Thread Jimmy Pryor-SunBody
In all that I've read about OS, I don't recall seeing much about process within the breakout groups. How is that usually determined? I have seen mention in some posts of combining OS and "cafes". I have envisioned using OS and allowing those that post topics for discussion to include the meth

Re: Process in Breakout Groups

2005-11-17 Thread Tree Fitzpatrick
It feels a bit off to offer a followup question to Lisa's offline, repeated comments to Jimmy but I have a question of clarification. Do you think, Lisa, that a participant in an OS event should not offer a workshop or speech within the context of the OS event? To me, the essence of open space IS

Re: Process in Breakout Groups

2005-11-17 Thread Wendy Farmer-O'Neil
te.edu Subject: Process in Breakout Groups In all that I've read about OS, I don't recall seeing much about process within the breakout groups. How is that usually determined? I have seen mention in some posts of combining OS and "cafes". I have envisioned using OS and a