Re: Altitude erreur

2021-06-27 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
It may be related to if there is applied an automatic or manual correction of GPS WGS84 geoid altitude to Earth "potatoid". Without correction, GPS gives for middle Europe about 60m higher altitude than kartigraphic altitude. Most Of better application offer such correction, or do it implicit

Re: compose route on PC

2021-03-12 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
apsal: @Poutnik. Just so I fully understand, with BRouter, you see each intersection where a turn is required. And you see the direction of the turn. But no street name. Yes? That would still be better than the usual non-OsmAnd GPX, which shows each turn of the road, whether it's an intersect

Re: compose route on PC

2021-03-11 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Brouter can generate GPX file specifically for OsmAnd with included junction/crossroad waypoints for navigation hints, so OSMAnd is able to provide them to user in the form of the way of turning. But is does not use street names. It's navigation data in RD5 files do not even contain street n

Re: Avoiding Unpaved Roads

2021-02-22 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
As a workaround, try temporary posting from the Google groups web interface, until the issue is resolved. Dne 22. února 2021 10:01:46 "'P Wat' via OsmAnd" napsal: Poutnik - Sorry Off Topic - If you are the same Poutnik as on Brouter, can you explain why my attempts to

Re: Avoiding Unpaved Roads

2021-02-22 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
brouter author, he is the owner of the group. Dne 22. února 2021 10:01:46 "'P Wat' via OsmAnd" napsal: Poutnik - Sorry Off Topic - If you are the same Poutnik as on Brouter, can you explain why my attempts to posts on Brouter are immediately deleted? Are you able to restore

Re: Avoiding Unpaved Roads

2021-02-07 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
ly). And another reason may be still N OsmAnd bug. Dne 7. února 2021 8:06:57 Poutnik Fornntp napsal: Hi, First step is always checking on https://www.openstreetmap.org ( the data source for OsmAnd ), if the affected roads are properly mapped and tagged, according to reality. As OsmA

Re: Avoiding Unpaved Roads

2021-02-06 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Hi, First step is always checking on https://www.openstreetmap.org ( the data source for OsmAnd ), if the affected roads are properly mapped and tagged, according to reality. As OsmAnd and all applications relying on OSM knows only the reality mapped there. It may be the case the road surf

Re: How to map subway entrances?

2020-11-25 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
It is an issue to know in advance, what a user will search for if he has no idea what to search for. Dne 25. listopadu 2020 20:55:07 john whelan napsal: And that is the issue finding or adding a tag that I can search for in OSMAND. Cheerio John On Wed, Nov 25, 2020, 14:01 Poutnik Fornntp

Re: How to map subway entrances?

2020-11-25 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
seem to recall subways with multiple exits last time I was there. I think using nodes that are there already and connected to the sidewalk would make more sense. I could of course fire up JOSM on a laptop and do a visual look at the raw data. Thanks John Poutnik Fornntp wrote on 2020-11-25 11

Re: How to map subway entrances?

2020-11-25 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Nothing beats the visual analyzator of graphical data representation. Even if there were all needed data, user would not know, what exactly to search for in the direct navigation to found given location. Personally, as my general navigation approach , I use location search just to show me the

Re: Wrong route choices

2020-11-23 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
times for both routes ? Dne 23. listopadu 2020 7:24:27 Mark Howard napsal: Thanks for that Poutnik. If I try the same trip using OpenStreetMap on my computer, it takes me the correct way. Does that indicate a problem within OsmAnd? On Monday, 23 November 2020 at 19:13:06 UTC+13 Poutnik

Re: Wrong route choices

2020-11-22 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Check, if the roads and their connections are mapped OK in OSM. The easiest way is probably generating the route by other software using OSM data. You may try e.g. http://brouter.de/BRouter-web/ Dne 23. listopadu 2020 5:47:38 Mark Howard napsal: Newbie question: I have a new re-install of O

Re: Osmand: non-needed keep left/right

2020-10-09 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
If one uses BRouter as the 3rd party routing service, it provides navigation hints based on true crossings/junctions. The downside is, the current OsmAnd router API doesn't ( or did not ) support the Brouter hints, so they are available only if the route is generated by BRouter application or

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
2020 15:31:24 Florian Lohoff napsal: On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 03:11:33PM +0200, Poutnik Fornntp wrote: It should be compared by the time for both activities, including mounting/unmounting, and eventually relaxing if applies. 2-5 km is typically 6-15 minutes. Waiting above the steps for cycling

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
. Dne 10. srpna 2020 15:49:32 Poutnik Fornntp napsal: You have not understood me correctly. Preferences should indeed be included, like for push penalties still preferring riding at the same time. But penalization should not be overdone. It applies to any penalties, like unpaved surface. Dne 10

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
: Poutnik Fornntp writes: It should be compared by the time for both activities, including mounting/unmounting, and eventually relaxing if applies. 2-5 km is typically 6-15 minutes. Waiting above the steps for cycling mates for almost 15 minutes would be boring. The proper metric for routing is a hard

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
It should be compared by the time for both activities, including mounting/unmounting, and eventually relaxing if applies. 2-5 km is typically 6-15 minutes. Waiting above the steps for cycling mates for almost 15 minutes would be boring. Dne 10. srpna 2020 15:01:34 Greg Troxel napsal: sort

Re: highway=steps in bicycle profile

2020-08-10 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
As an author of BRouter bike profiles, regarding access issues and fallbacks to foot access, the optimal approach is a balanced trade off: What is the probability of (effectively ) incorrect disabling access and what is the impact ? What is the probability of (effectively ) incorrect allowing

Re: Is this a routing bug?

2020-08-09 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Is there anything in OSM saying it is accessible ? Dne 10. srpna 2020 3:11:52 A Thompson napsal: . It has a barrier=gate at the start of its service road, but nothing in OSM to say that it is inaccessible . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou

Re: How to display foot paths / stairs on car based profiles (BRouter...)

2020-07-23 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
You can still map OSMAnd transportation modes to BRouter profiles on BRouter application level. Dne 23. července 2020 17:47:19 R Adolph napsal: Yes, I know that, but it doesnt help with BRouter. BRouter takes OSMand's base profile that was used to create that OSMand profile you are using (bik

Re: World Basemap updated with each update of any other map

2020-07-06 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
It is even possibly to apply negative turncost, preferring routes with more winding roads. I have once created such a highly experimental profile for a motorbike owner, who had said straight roads are boring. Dne 6. července 2020 11:47:04 Uwe Mock napsal: I uninstalled all the "World" maps and

Re: BRouter profiles in OSMand

2020-06-19 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Generally, I rather recommend to stop considering short/fast modes as short/fast, but as mode1 and mode2, e.g. as a challenging and easy modes, or whatever suits your cases. Dne 19. června 2020 15:14:38 Poutnik napsal: Note the shortest is a foot profile, not suitable for vehicles, while

Re: BRouter profiles in OSMand

2020-06-19 Thread Poutnik
Note the shortest is a foot profile, not suitable for vehicles, while trekking is bicycle profile ( trekking bike ). Consider also BRouter user custom profiles. https://github.com/poutnikl/Brouter-profiles/wiki Dne pátek 19. června 2020 13:37:17 UTC+2 Egal napsal(a): > > In BRouter are six naviga

Re: Finding the exact type of 'surface'/'tracktype' of a given path

2020-06-14 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
x27;, as I mentioned). My question was how I can find this out in OsmAnd, for a given point on the map. On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 6:12:51 PM UTC+2, Poutnik wrote: You may try BRouter.de/BRouter-web/ with routing profile trekking (bike) or hiking-beta (foot) . After interactive route creation

Re: Finding the exact type of 'surface'/'tracktype' of a given path

2020-06-14 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
You may try BRouter.de/BRouter-web/ with routing profile trekking (bike) or hiking-beta (foot) . After interactive route creation along OSM highways of interest, you can review routing related way tags in the table, eventually even export them into CSV file. Dne 14. června 2020 17:40:16 Fran

Re: Next turn feature

2020-06-10 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
color changing or point on the map that advance ~50 meter ahead of your current position on the gpx. (Where is the best place to send this request to OsmAnd developers?) On Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 5:56:48 PM UTC+3, Poutnik wrote: One more reason to use recorded track merely just for indpiration

Re: Next turn feature

2020-06-04 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
of the GPX is riding record (like in the picture I attached) Each time the gpx as a curve (not tracks cross) the arrow show turn. On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 9:52:41 AM UTC+3, Poutnik wrote: You may then want to try GPX files generated for OSMand by BRouter ( = bicycle Router ). With LocusMap

Re: Next turn feature

2020-06-02 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Personally, I do the same, but having a phone in by jersey back pocket. I use LocusMap, so I can plan the route directly in the application route planner or just set the destination using local offline BRouter routing provider, without intermediate GPX file ( that can be used as well ) Dne 2.

Re: Next turn feature

2020-06-01 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
You may then want to try GPX files generated for OSMand by BRouter ( = bicycle Router ). With LocusMap, it is easily done in the application, as it communicate with the local BRouter application via API. OSMAnd does not support BRouter navigation hints through API interface yet ( AFAIK ), so

Re: Directions when following track

2020-05-11 Thread Poutnik
/poutnikl/Brouter-profiles/wiki/Glossary Dne pondělí 11. května 2020 11:50:30 UTC+2 Grzegorz Adamiak napsal(a): > > > @Poutnik, is there a guide on setting up and using BRouter local app with > Osmand (or the same for an online engine)? > > -- You received this message because you

Re: Directions when following track

2020-05-10 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
sample of such GPX, generated for OSMAnd by BRouter application near the border of the city of Brno ( Moravia, Czech Republic, Europe ) Dne 11. května 2020 5:48:16 Poutnik Fornntp napsal: One of possible options is to Install BRouter application or usage BRouter web http://brouter.de/BRouter

Re: Directions when following track

2020-05-10 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
One of possible options is to Install BRouter application or usage BRouter web http://brouter.de/BRouter-web/ and to generate GPX by them. The is a feature to include waypoints with navigation hints for OSMAnd, so OSMand is able to produce visual/voice turning instructions on real crossroads, j

Re: Area calculation

2020-05-08 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
One of the options is LocusMap application. Dne 7. května 2020 13:52:02 Shailang kharsati napsal: Is it possible to calculate area of a track .? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OsmAnd" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emai

Re: Osmand routing calculation is very slow for long distance for many years

2020-03-30 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Tha ability to import XML file into the custom navigation profiles is great, I was not aware of it until recently. Dne 28. března 2020 11:46:11 Harry van der Wolf napsal: Like I have stated before: Use a different profile with a different heuristic coefficient(See .xmls attached). In another

Re: Osmand routing calculation is very slow for long distance for many years

2020-03-29 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Similarly, Voice only bicycle BRouter navigation is great. I use it in Locus, but it is applicable for OSMAnd as well if following GPX route generated by BRouter/BRouter Web for OSMand. Dne 29. března 2020 12:46:14 Helmut Jarausch napsal: With OSMAnds (relatively) new feature to turn the scree

Re: Osmand routing calculation is very slow for long distance for many years

2020-03-28 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
HC=1.0 is the only value that guarantee finding the optimal route by A* algorithm, according given criteria. Higher values can provide for short distances a/o trivial road network geometry surprisingly wrong results. By statistical evaluation, length of long enough routes is typically 1.2-1.3

Re: Osmand routing calculation is very slow for long distance for many years

2020-03-28 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
There are bicycle and foot routes longer than 1000 km, when OSMand or BRouter is used to calculate the route. Personally, for trips shorter then 400 km I use intermediate viapoints for true viapoints, or for route shaping, not to make things easy for the algorithm. There is also much more de

Re: Osmand routing calculation is very slow for long distance for many years

2020-03-27 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
on of LocusMap+BRouter combo, for car using Waze, MapsFactor Navigator of OSMAnd. Dne 27. března 2020 16:11:18 Poutnik Fornntp napsal: .. In domain of routing, it sacrifices routing flexibility and puts on high load the provider resources. And that is why it is good to have both high and low

Re: Osmand routing calculation is very slow for long distance for many years

2020-03-27 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
In many areas, not limited to routing, speed can be also a weakness. Not necessarily the speed itself, but things leading to high speed. It is like a half-joke about software usability: It can be free, easy, but not powerful. It can be free, powerful, but not easy. It can be powerful, easy, but

Re: Osmand routing calculation is very slow for long distance for many years

2020-03-26 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
But the point is, the project is open source, maintained on GitHub. Interested skilled users contribute at will. Dne 26. března 2020 18:47:06 Lodro Gyamtso napsal: 1. when we visit this page https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.osmand&hl=en we can found " Additional Information "

Re: Osmand routing calculation is very slow for long distance for many years

2020-03-26 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
o all non-native english speakers here (I am one of them). But please stop now. Let's leave it at this and stay on topic. Kind regards, Harry Op do 26 mrt. 2020 om 03:32 schreef Poutnik Fornntp : Well, Lodro, you like arguments. The others just react on your bait. OSMAnd, Locus, BRo

Re: Osmand routing calculation is very slow for long distance for many years

2020-03-25 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
te. With all the navigation apps i have mentions before, the route results is 1sec (instantaneously) for both of my devices. p.s sorry for my english On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 12:53:14 PM UTC+2, Harry van der Wolf wrote: Op di 24 mrt. 2020 om 07:32 schreef Lodro Gyamtso : after the a

Re: Osmand routing calculation is very slow for long distance for many years

2020-03-24 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
long distances, but it may be disadvantage in rural areas, as their road network is a subset of OSMAnd/BRouter. Dne 24. března 2020 7:32:45 Lodro Gyamtso napsal: after the answer of user "Poutnik", we have another proof that the OSMAnd and BRoute use slow (bad) technology. Sof

Re: Osmand routing calculation is very slow for long distance for many years

2020-03-22 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Time needed to calculate the route grows in average quadratically with distance , for both OSMAnd and BRouter. Brouter may use more resource serving algorithm and data. Online routing services use very different algorithms. OSMAnd and BRouter use modifications of A-star algorithm, which is sl

Re: Heuristic coefficient comparisons

2020-03-17 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
P.S.: Technically speaking, not sure about the OSMand 2nd pass, but the BRouter 2nd pass is not A* based like the 1st pass, but it is the plain Dijkstra with the cut off feature. It is functionally almost equivalent to 1-pass A* with HC=1.0, with the difference A* uses no route elimination, w

Re: Heuristic coefficient comparisons

2020-03-16 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
knows, if a particular partial route in the 2nd pass is worse than that, it cannot be the optimal one and is thrown away. Dne 16. března 2020 19:40:19 Poutnik Fornntp napsal: Yes, it does keep track of already determined costs/routes during routing. -- You received this message because you are

Re: Heuristic coefficient comparisons

2020-03-16 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
P.S.: In case of BRouter, one can use 1 pass routing as well, but then the HC must be more conservative than for the 1st pass of 2-pass routing. Dne 16. března 2020 19:40:19 Poutnik Fornntp napsal: Then you know also the answers to your questions. :), perhaps without realising that. Yes, it

Re: Heuristic coefficient comparisons

2020-03-16 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Then you know also the answers to your questions. :), perhaps without realising that. Yes, it does keep track of already determined costs/routes during routing. The problem is, the classical A* has enormous memory demand for long routes, growing quadratically with the route distance. That is

Re: Heuristic coefficient comparisons

2020-03-16 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
The 2 step may work very similarly as the BRouter 2 step routing. The 1st step may use quite a high HC ( originally 1.5, I use often up to 1.8 ) to get quick rough estimation of the total cost of the optimal route. It can be quite high, until time gain for fast 1st step is paid by slower 2nd s

Re: Heuristic coefficient comparisons

2020-03-12 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Yes, it is right, and applies for BRouter routing as well. The longer the route is, and the more complex the network is, the less is probability of missing the optimal route with HR > 1. 1.2-1.3 is the typical geometry factor route-distance / bee-line-distance The critical HR factor is the ab

Re: Heuristic coefficient comparisons

2020-03-12 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Aside of that, requirement of the X account for participation on X environment is fully normal, common and generally accepted. Why should be X=Google an exception ? Dne 12. března 2020 14:22:29 "'ra' via OsmAnd" napsal: you must know, writing from your google account. -- You received this

Re: Heuristic coefficient comparisons

2020-03-11 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Hmm, AFAIK, it is a Google group, with optionally used mail list functionality, like some others, e.g the BRouter group. The mail list functionality had to be explicitly activated, not sure if on the group or the account level. Dne 12. března 2020 5:14:34 A Thompson napsal: Aaargh. I meant o

Re: Speed camera data in navigation illegal in several counties

2019-09-27 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Dne 27. září 2019 9:54:15 Martin Trautmann napsal: So how about cars which can go faster than the actual speed limit. Does this also encourage to disobey the law!? Comparing to those that cannot ... yes, they do. E.g. I am not tempted to go faster than 50 km/h city limit on my bike.

Re: Speed camera data in navigation illegal in several counties

2019-09-25 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
But is not it rather funny, as the effective result is the same, sharing the data ? Dne 25. září 2019 22:51:39 Martin Trautmann napsal: In which countries is possession illegal? In Germany the usage is illegal - but for the driver only. The co-driver might use it. Schönen Gruß Martin

Re: two different devices, two different times to plan a route to destination

2019-08-15 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
It may be possible the faster device has more CPU cores, but its single core is slower and the time critical process is running in a single thread on a single core. Another option is, the computation speed is limited by intensive data manipulation and the device with slower CPU has faster dat

Re: Issues with GPS fix in mountain areas

2019-08-15 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Does the issue happen if the mobile data have not been recently available nor used during GPS usage ? In such a case, GPS fix without help of internet based aGPS data may take minutes. But generally , it is matter of the hardware/firmware and Android. OSMAnd just uses Android location servic

Re: Download maps for offline is slow, and fails. No way to resume.

2019-06-13 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Ah, I see, it turns on Time stamping. I use it to prevent redownloading not updated file, or for not downloading of not too old file. Dne 14. června 2019 4:59:00 Poutnik Fornntp napsal: I use just wget -N URL for http and https. In fact, I already forgot what -N means :-) -- You received

Re: Download maps for offline is slow, and fails. No way to resume.

2019-06-13 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
I use just wget -N URL for http and https. In fact, I already forgot what -N means :-) Dne 13. června 2019 22:16:12 Peter Kaiser napsal: How would you do this with curl or wget? I don't seem to be able to find the magic. curl 7.64.1 (x86_64-pc-win32) libcurl/7.64.1 OpenSSL/1.1.1b (Schannel)

Re: Scripted download of maps on Linux

2019-06-09 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Poutnik Fornntp napsal: Note also if one installs termux, a very good Linux terminal emulator, one can write wget or curl based Bash scripts for direct download to the final Android placement, optionally skipping downloads if no update is available, or if local files are not older than chosen

Re: Scripted download of maps on Linux

2019-06-09 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Note also if one installs termux, a very good Linux terminal emulator, one can write wget or curl based Bash scripts for direct download to the final Android placement, optionally skipping downloads if no update is available, or if local files are not older than chosen threshold. Note that it

Re: warnings

2019-04-22 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
OsmAnd is focused on offline usage of maps, and navigation, even if using some online maps and some 3rd party online navigation services is possible. As mainly offline application, it does not (currently) provide real time traffic information. Most online based car navigations use fast online

Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)

2019-04-13 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Try to change the one in the line 6, that may override the one in the car profile. Dne 13. dubna 2019 14:54:48 Harald Kosian napsal: Hello, didn't succeed ... Copied routing.xml from the apk-file, edited the entry on line 375 to: minDefaultSpeed="45.0" maxDefaultSpeed="130.0" leftTurn="5"

Re: Navigation

2019-04-10 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Note that BRouter uses in the 2nd pass the coefficient 1.0 as well, but at least with cutoff function, using the draft route cost from the 1st pass as the threshold to cut off many nodes the original A-star has to hold in memory. OTOH, the 1st pass can use quite high values, 1.5-1.8 to determine

Re: Navigation

2019-04-09 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
The best route does not exist. More exactly, there is almost as many best routes as is the number of the different criteria how to evaluate routes. Therefore one cannot expect OsmAnd best route must match your best route. I will not speak about speed of route calculation, that has a lot of spac

Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)

2019-03-29 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
ewayAware="true" heuristicCoefficient="1.4"> (or some value between 1.2 and 1.4) 4) save it to the OsmAnd data folder Harry Op vr 29 mrt. 2019 om 19:44 schreef Helmut Jarausch : Thanks for the tip! Poutnik Fornntp schrieb am Fr., 29. März 2019, 11:12: Try to searc

Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)

2019-03-29 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Try to search the Google group history, it was described in details multiple times. In short, 1) download from OsmAnd site the .APK installation file for your OsmAnd+ version 2) optionally rename it to .ZIP 3) open the archive and extract from it routing.xml file 4) edit the coefficient there

Re: two feature suggestions/things that bug me

2019-02-23 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
I do not use Osmand much these days, using LocusMap Pro + BRouter, with Locus pronouncing BRouter navigation hints for Locus. AFAIK OsmAnd does have the voice navigation guidance system to use it for its native routes, or to follow we the navigation hints for Osmand embedded in imported BRouter r

Re: How to make suggestions/feature requests

2019-02-20 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
Speaking just for myself, I think a good procedure is 1/ Check at GitHub, if a similar request is already open. 2/ if yes, add there eventually your comments. 3/ if not, discuss it first here, if the community thinks it could be a useful idea, not too difficult to implement and interesting

Re: Does the paid version OsmAnd+ on Google Play have contours?

2019-02-15 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
pondelok, 28. januára 2019 12:15:20 UTC+1 Poutnik napísal(-a): I do agree with your post, but it is IMHO not much related to what I have written. My complain was not about extra price, but rather about not being included in the application. For a car navigation, it does not make much sense to have

Re: Does OsmAnd use Dual Frequency GNSS for positioning?

2019-02-15 Thread Poutnik Fornntp
The proper question is: Does the phone of your interest use it ? If yes, Osmand uses it as well, not being even aware of it. If not, then not. GPS Android applications rely on Android OS location service calls. The hardware and communication protocols behind that are hidden for them. Dne 11.

Re: Does the paid version OsmAnd+ on Google Play have contours?

2019-01-28 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
anies like Garmin which has been resolved in a timely manner? I have never had such an experience with OSMAND! So, I am very grateful to the developers of OSMAND!!! Helmut Poutnik Wanderer schrieb am Sa., 26. Jan. 2019, 14:18: Is not it a little weird, if one realizes that OSMAnd is conside

Re: Does the paid version OsmAnd+ on Google Play have contours?

2019-01-26 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
Is not it a little weird, if one realizes that OSMAnd is considered an all-purpose-to-be map/nav application? Even if one buys the OSMand+, such a basic map app feature for non-car a/o off-road cases is not part of the application, but must be bought as the extra plugin... -- Poutník ( The wand

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2019-01-15 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
You must mean OSMAnd+, not AndOSM+ .. :-) OSMAnd navigation is designed as offline navigation and cannot be in real-time aspects fairly compared to online navigations with realtime features, like Google maps or Waze. Even its 3rd party online routing services do not provide real time features

Re: Land rendered as water - Please advise

2018-12-17 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
Good verification step is also testing the area in an independent application, based on OSM as well. e.g. OSMAnd versus LocusMap, using MapsForge compatible OSM based maps, supposing both are using recent maps. -- Dne 17. prosince 2018 7:43:40 Martin Trautmann napsal: On 18-12-16 1

Re: Standard maps versus Roads-only maps

2018-12-13 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
Standard maps contain all the map details, not needed for navigation, but useful for outdoor, city orientation or map exploration. Road-only are almost like it says: road only plus minimal set of not road related details. They contain all navigation information plus some non road data as bonus

Re: Voice navigation question

2018-12-05 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
he value 10 and made still this experience. Am Montag, 3. Dezember 2018 13:18:22 UTC+1 schrieb Poutnik: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, sen

Re: Voice navigation question

2018-12-03 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
Brouter does not announce every direction change by design, it tries to omit trivial ones. This can be modified in the profile. A quote from my unofficial Glossary GitHub page: "Priorityclassifier is a BRouter numerical parameter calculated for ways and used for generation of pictogram/voice na

Re: fast routing experiment conclusion

2018-11-29 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
-- Dne 29. listopadu 2018 14:25:19 Harry van der Wolf napsal: Op do 29 nov. 2018 om 13:59 schreef Poutnik the Wanderer < poutnik4n...@gmail.com>: For the same start and destination, it depends on the used profile as well. Right. But you are now more or less speaking with B

Re: fast routing experiment conclusion

2018-11-29 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
The optimal heuristic coefficient as accuracy/speed tradeoff does not depend only on the start and destination. For the same start and destination, it depends on the used profile as well. As the route from each profile has different average road rating and due a different provided route also the

Re: Using OsmAnd on a Windows PC

2018-11-28 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
Why not to try http://brouter.de/brouter-web/ ? using Brouter bicycle specific routing, using built-in or custom routing profiles? You can then download the route as GPX file with Brouter turn hints for OSMAnd. See also https://GitHub.com/poutnikl/Brouter-profiles/wiki -- Dne 29. lis

Re: fast routing experiment conclusion

2018-11-28 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
-- Dne 28. listopadu 2018 20:47:04 Stefan Monnier napsal: Would it make sense to adjust this coefficient based on distance, then? I.e. when the "straight line to destination" is hundreds of km, use a value around 1.4/1.5, but only use 1.2/1.3 or so when the distance is down to a ha

Re: fast routing experiment conclusion

2018-11-28 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
-- Dne 28. listopadu 2018 19:51:46 Greg Troxel napsal: I meant where is it is encoded and where does it come from. On OSMand native routing, it is all stored in the routing.xml file, by default internally, unless a user explicitly place a file copy in the OSMand data folder

Re: fast routing experiment conclusion

2018-11-28 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
Ideals are meant in the contest of the used routing profile. It may be the motorway for fastest car route. Rating 1.4 would be for a road 1.4 times slower. It may be a road with nominal speed close to optimal fuel consumption.Rating 1.4 would be for a road with 1.4 times higher fuel consumptio

Re: fast routing experiment conclusion

2018-11-28 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
By few words, the optimal routing and finding the optimal route are 2 very different things. -- Dne 28. listopadu 2018 17:28:15 Harry van der Wolf napsal: "And when travelling 700-1000 km, an extra theoretical(!) 1-2 minutes at the start or in the end (city to city via long motorways),

Re: fast routing experiment conclusion

2018-11-28 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
The heuristic coefficient is a priori rating of not yet evaluated part of the route. Routing algoritms based on A-star algorithm use cost rating for way segments, that multiply the segment length to give the "cost" of the passing the way segment. It is a measure of how much is disliked a us

Re: fast routing experiment conclusion

2018-11-25 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
Glad to help. More files are just renamed ZIP archives with specific content, Like Java files JAR or MS office files DOCX or XLSX. -- Dne 25. listopadu 2018 8:14:17 km146...@gmail.com napsal: I had no idea an apk was a zip archive. Sometimes I feel like I'm from a different century. Wor

Re: fast routing experiment conclusion

2018-11-24 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
The routing.xml is not guaranteed to be backward compatible. The frequent mistake is to download the current version from the master branch at GitHub. But this version may be ahead and may cause a crash even of the latest OSMAnd release. The save way is to download the respective OSMAnd insta

Re: Can Osmand totally replace a Garmin in a car?

2018-11-21 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
Are eventual extra Garmin features never used ? Is the way OSMand works preferred to Garmin one ? If both answers are yes for you then the answer to your question for yourself can be yes. The answer depends on personal preferences. I guess the word totally is overused these days and its origin

Re: Voice navigation question

2018-11-08 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
In contrary of natively calculated routes, OSMAnd ( other apps usually too) takes GPX route as a simple point sequence. The is no difference to an off-road outdoor GPX route, just this time points happen to sit on roads. OSMAnd in gpx-route-following mode ignores road network data from the ve

Re: Springs are food?

2018-11-04 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
Perhaps Food category includes drinks and water is a drink as well. At least, it makes sense to me. -- Dne 4. listopadu 2018 20:30:16 Jack Burke napsal: Does anyone know why springs (as in, water sources) are included when you search the category Food? Wondering if I should come a b

Re: Back from Europe- now I have a problem!

2018-10-26 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
Comparison to GM may be misleading, as it uses any location from location provider, while OSMAnd may insist on GPS location. GPS tester utility is better choice. Some of them like GPS status can explicitly (re) download aGPS data for faster fix. -- Dne 26. října 2018 6:40:12 Bart Eisenb

Re: Back from Europe- now I have a problem!

2018-10-25 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
OSMand does not determine GPS location. Android does. There may be hardware or OS problem. Also, not to confuse GPS location and location from Android location provider, that may use also mobile network, wifi and Bluetooth. Try GPS status or other GPS testing utility to test GPS. -- D

Re: OSM and map tiles

2018-10-21 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
Very good is also Android version of Total Commander. It allows listing hidden files and renaming files to .filename. I was used to ES FE, but abandoned it as many others, when it development went on the path I did not like. -- Dne 21. října 2018 17:08:11 Metaluc napsal: ... Most f

Re: OSM and map tiles

2018-10-21 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
In fact, it is not an OSMand trick, nor even an Android trick. Android is a high level platform built on the basement of Linux and the Linux filesystem. In the Linux(and probably Unix as well) world, a filename starting with the dot is the standard way to mark a hidden file or a folder. BTW

Re: Has google search relagated this forum?

2018-10-19 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
It is not like the old school maillists from 1990s with the control email messages. Rather the opposite. This is primarily a web based Google group / forum, that has (fortunately) optional email interface. Similarly as Microsoft support forums(once on Usenet) have the optional Usenet interfa

Re: Has google search relagated this forum?

2018-10-19 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
Why not to use OSMAnd Google group ? It is more specific. Or, bookmark the direct link to the group. AFAIK, Google groups are not related to Google+. -- Dne 20. října 2018 3:11:30 A Thompson napsal: Every day or two I would check this forum by typing "osmand forum" (without the quot

Re: Show minor roads when zoomed out

2018-10-11 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
napsal: [...] I couldn't find the 'Elements' theme, but could find other map styles - I found the offroad one showed a nice level of detail. [...] On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:35:06AM +0200, Poutnik the Wanderer wrote: P.S., in my understanding the Elements theme draws (near?)

Re: Purchased OsmAnd 1 year ago but license is gone

2018-10-11 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
If you registered the new device to the same Google account as was the old one, Google repository should be aware about your licences. -- Dne 11. října 2018 8:41:55 adi.visore...@gmail.com napsal: Hello guys, More than a year ago I purchased a lifetime license for OsmAnd but when I i

Re: Show minor roads when zoomed out

2018-10-10 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
P.S., in my understanding the Elements theme draws (near?) any detail present in the map zoom level code, while the Elevate postpones it for higher zooms not to get display overcrowded (and CPU busy) by to many details. -- Dne 10. října 2018 10:27:43 Poutnik the Wanderer napsal

Re: Show minor roads when zoomed out

2018-10-10 Thread Poutnik the Wanderer
In my understanding, it is similar as in the LocusMap. The "Map display scale", shown by the scale ruler, is combination of map zoom level, determining via OSMAnd and the used theme what will be shown, and the map look relative percentage scale (mentioned long press of zoom buttons), that j

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