Kind Regards
>>>
>>> Arjang
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3 June 2010 20:11, Anthony wrote:
>>> > I assume that if the client doesn’t ask for the code then i don’t give
>>> > it
>>> > out. I would increase my fee if they want the code
o an escrow system, where the
customer only gets the code in the event of bankruptcy, etc.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
> On Behalf Of Arjang Assadi
> Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 8:38 AM
> To: ozDotNet
&g
On 4 June 2010 12:53, Arjang Assadi wrote:
> What is SCO?
I *think* that's a whimsical question, sort of a '"where are they now"
kind of thing. Now I've pre-empted any possible 'swoosh responses'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO_v._IBM
>
> On 4 June 2010 12:52, mike smith wrote:
>> And if you
their business...
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
>> ]
>> On Behalf Of Arjang Assadi
>> Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 8:38 AM
>> To: ozDotNet
>> Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Softwar
zdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
> On Behalf Of Arjang Assadi
> Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 8:38 AM
> To: ozDotNet
> Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
>
> Hi Anthony,
>
> Please forgive my ignorance but my question is what is normal
> practice? What is meant by work? Wh
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Anthony wrote:
> Well i treat software like a car. When you buy a car they don't give you
> the blueprints...
>
> That is true for software too - sometimes. A car is one of thousands of
identical vehicles on sale. Each purchaser owns the car but not the
blueprint.
-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Arjang Assadi
Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 8:38 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Hi Anthony,
Please forgive my ignorance but my question is what is normal
practice? What is meant by work? When quoting hourly
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Simon Haigh
Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 9:34 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: Code Ownership WAS: RE: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
I always thought that being a contractor is similar to being an employee and
therefore th
What is SCO?
On 4 June 2010 12:52, mike smith wrote:
> And if you're SCO
>
> Step 3 - don't profit
> Step 4 - go broke
>
> --
> Meski
genius! :)
On 4 June 2010 11:19, Jason Finch wrote:
> Different approach,
>
> Don't obfuscate your code, give them the entire source code.
> Then attach a restrictive usage license.
>
> Then hope that they ignore the license and intergrate your code into their
> critical systems.
> Then audit the
On 4 June 2010 11:19, Jason Finch wrote:
> Different approach,
>
> Don't obfuscate your code, give them the entire source code.
> Then attach a restrictive usage license.
>
> Then hope that they ignore the license and intergrate your code into their
> critical systems.
> Then audit their site a fe
Different approach,
Don't obfuscate your code, give them the entire source code.
Then attach a restrictive usage license.
Then hope that they ignore the license and intergrate your code into their
critical systems.
Then audit their site a few years on, determine if your license has been
breached
> What do I own and what don't I own?
I don't have an answer for you there.
I remember at one point I was so "fluent" in purchasing systems, I could bang
one out in an afternoon (well, the core of it anyway.) Each system was produced
individually, on-site, with clients, using a pattern that I
>
> Also now that Red Gate have acquired both Reflector and Smart Assembly
> they’re in a unique position in the obfuscation market.
>
It's fair to say they have both ends of the market covered.
Craig.
Yes, it's around the $200 per hour.
I guess it's all relative. I know that, given the source code, I could make
the changes just as quickly as the contractor.
My hourly rate is nothing like the $ he charges, and we wouldn't have to
wait for his availablility to make the changes. So in terms of tu
Hi Iain,
Curious what you are classing as exorbitant. Are we talking > $200?
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Iain Carlin wrote:
> On 4 June 2010 09:18, Arjang Assadi wrote:
>
>> Thank you Dylan,
>>
>> Simon, I don't understand the code for the work done for a specific
>> customer(s), can be a
On 4 June 2010 09:18, Arjang Assadi wrote:
> Thank you Dylan,
>
> Simon, I don't understand the code for the work done for a specific
> customer(s), can be a gold mine. I am not sure what owning the code
> means, anyone and everyone (competent programmer) can reproduce the
> same effect with some
-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Arjang Assadi
Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 09:48 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Code Ownership WAS: RE: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Thank you Dylan,
Simon, I don't understand the code for the work done for a speci
lly sitting on a goldmine. :-)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
> Behalf Of Dylan Tusler
> Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 09:21 AM
> To: 'ozDotNet'
> Subject: Code Ownership WAS: RE: .NET Obfuscator Software.
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Dylan Tusler
Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 09:21 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: Code Ownership WAS: RE: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Disclaimer: IANAL
Employee - Any code you write is the property o
ee and
consultant: http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-5034783.html
Dylan.
-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Arjang Assadi
Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 8:38 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: .NET Obfusc
otnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Joseph Cooney
Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 8:11 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Eazfuscator is OKaccording to the reverse-engineering forums pretty much
all the .NET obfuscators can be broken, but they seemed to rate
SmartAss
o
> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 3:07 PM
> To: ozDotNet
>
> Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
>
>
>
> Well most clients I have dealt with in the past end up with the source code.
>
>
>
>> After all, "clients" have been accepting obfuscated
:* Thursday, 3 June 2010 3:07 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
>
> *Subject:* Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
>
>
>
> Well most clients I have dealt with in the past end up with the source
> code.
>
>
>
> > After all, "clients" have been accepting obfuscated
n’t give it
> out. I would increase my fee if they want the code anyway
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Michael Minutillo
> > Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 3:07 PM
> > To: ozDotNet
> >
nt the code anyway
>
>
>
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Michael Minutillo
> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 3:07 PM
> To: ozDotNet
>
> Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
>
>
>
> Well most clients I h
: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Well most clients I have dealt with in the past end up with the source code.
> After all, "clients" have been accepting obfuscated code since time
immemorial already! (Well, at least since the 1980s.) That's what compiled
c
Well most clients I have dealt with in the past end up with the source code.
> After all, "clients" have been accepting obfuscated code since time
immemorial already! (Well, at least since the 1980s.) That's what compiled
code is! Unless you wanted to reverse engineer to assembly language, pretty
> That is potentially a pretty dangerous risk for a client to accept isn't it?
> Unless it contains some kind of proprietary algorithm or something I'm not
> sure it's a great idea.
That's a pretty weird point of view.
After all, "clients" have been accepting obfuscated code since time immemori
Original Message-
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
> On Behalf Of David Kean
> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 1:32 PM
> To: ozDotNet
> Subject: RE: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
>
> Wrote below in a hurry, bad grammar and wording.
>
&g
but don't want to make it easy to decompile. Maybe i am just paranoid?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
> On Behalf Of David Kean
> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 1:32 PM
> To: ozDotNet
> Subject:
t.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of David Kean
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 1:32 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Wrote below in a hurry, bad grammar and wording.
I didn't mean to indicate that a .NET binary (it is a binary format) cannot
be decompiled -
code?
-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Kean
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:07 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Why are you looking at obfuscating you're binary?
-Origin
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From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Dylan Tusler
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 1:09 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=.net+obfuscation+free
Cheers,
Dylan.
-Original Message-
From
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=.net+obfuscation+free
Cheers,
Dylan.
-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 1:02 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
O
Why are you looking at obfuscating you're binary?
-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:02 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
Oops..
Oops..after some free .NET Obfuscator Software for my winform vb.net
project.
-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Sam Lai
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 12:53 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free
Er, Anthony - even spam is more useful than this email; at least they
tell me where I can buy, hope and pray for the penis enlargement pills
that will cost me my entire life savings :)
On 3 June 2010 12:47, Anthony wrote:
> .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
>
>
>
> Is your website being IntelliXper
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