Re: [ozmidwifery] Smelling babies

I don't think so Mary - to me, the smell is even stronger when women are in the water. - Original Message - From: "Mary Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:19 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Smelling babies > I'm afraid that I have never cons

Re: [ozmidwifery] War Zone Show at Nexus Cabaret

He He He :-)> - Original Message - From: Aviva Sheb'a To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] War Zone Show at Nexus Cabaret Far away? Last time I had an American Viet Vet turn up! He was living in Bri

Re: [ozmidwifery] Lotus birth

Andrea told me a couple of years ago that Beatrix Smulders can too. It took me a long time to tell anyone for fear they would think I was...well, you know! One of the obs I work with says he thinks he can nearly smell it too - Original Message - From: "Sally Westbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [ozmidwifery] Lotus birth

I cant smell, but I do have a brilliant sense of intuition for the same issues. Could this maybe be related in some way? Is this ( smelling) a learn-ed response to our heightened abilities to forsee the immediate future ? In a similar vein, I can ' tell' without laying a finger on a women whether

RE: [ozmidwifery] How awful is this!

Dear all In response to how awful is this ... I'd like to add ... How different it is in NZ ... Recently at a c/ed conference in Qld A consumer advocate from NZ told me that the NZ Prime Minister had made it legislation that a woman who elects to have a c/s for no medical reason has to pay the c

Re: [ozmidwifery] Reply required urgently: determining risk of uterine rupture?

Where are you? - Original Message - From: paul dunwell To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 3:37 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Reply required urgently: determining risk of uterine rupture? Greetings to everyone on the list.   I'm new to

Re: [ozmidwifery] Smelling babies

Looks like I'll just have to pay more attention to my olfactory organ. MM > I don't think so Mary - to me, the smell is even stronger when women are in the water. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

RE: [ozmidwifery] radio program and Uk survey

Hi Christine I read about the UK survey in the Sun Herald last Sunday - they also quoted the UK OB Dr. Fisk - he said that OZ C/s rates have increased because we are a risk intolerant society. The reporter also quoted Germaine Greer as saying we have lost the war for natural births. The article wa

RE: [ozmidwifery] Reply required urgently: determining risk of uterine rupture?

Hi Becky No tests are conclusive.  Each makes a total picture like a jigsaw.  The real test will be to say no and not accept to much medical input.  There are a few really good books with statistics about Natural Birth after Caesarean Section.  Contact Acegraphics.com.au for the current aut

Re: [ozmidwifery] pain relief

thanks Jen - Original Message - From: "Jennifer Semple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] pain relief > Hi Liz, > > I attended the antenatal classes, with one of my Follow-Through women > for uni, at the bi

RE: [ozmidwifery] How awful is this!

Should send this response to the Federal and State Ministers for Health also. Robyn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Julie Clarke Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 7:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] How awful is this!

Re: [ozmidwifery] radio program and Uk survey

In a message dated 10/10/02 6:04:34 PM W. Australia Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I read about the UK survey in the Sun Herald last Sunday - they also quoted the UK OB Dr. Fisk - he said that OZ C/s rates have increased because we are a risk intolerant society. Good ol' Nick Fisk.  I

Re: [ozmidwifery] How awful is this!

Wow - that WOULD really make a difference! I also liked the comment about the health funds' position regarding the rising elective CS rate. Surely they're able to move the goal posts regarding refunds AND it would be in their financial interest to do so not to mention the wellbeing of their c

Re: [ozmidwifery] Reply required urgently: determining risk of uterine rupture?

Hello Becky - have you accessed the Birthrites Website?  They also have an excellent little book full of evidence based information for women who have had a CS.  I'd suggest you contact Jackie Mawson on www.birthrites.org  Good luck!  Lois Wattis IPM, WA   - Original Message - .

RE: [ozmidwifery] Reply required urgently: determining risk of uterine rupture?

You could contact Birthrites a information source and suport group for women planning for a VBAC   Contact person is Jackie ph 08 9418 8949.   They have fantastic resources and may be able help with local contacts.   In peace and joy   Sally Westbury

Re: [ozmidwifery] radio program and Uk survey

The bbc web site had a huge piece on the survey..if you go to the bbc home page and then go to news/health you should find it Mel - Original Message - From: "Walker, Chris (NHS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:34 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] ra

Re: [ozmidwifery] Smelling babies

I think for me having my own babies heightened my sense of smell - it's much keener now than it used to be - funny how you never stop smelling your children! (Even though they're pretty off sometimes!!!) - Original Message - From: "Mary Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> S

Re: [ozmidwifery] radio program and Uk survey

Now why does that not surprise me? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] radio program and Uk survey In a message dated 10/10/02 6:04:34 PM W. Australia Standar

Re: [ozmidwifery] radio program and Uk survey

HE can talk Now, what was that quote he became notorious for.. - Original Message - From: "Julie Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:01 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] radio program and Uk survey > Hi Christine > I read about

Re: [ozmidwifery] Reply required urgently: determining risk of uterine rupture?

I know some women who would be very happy to talk with you about their birth experiences - what was helpful to them and what wasn't (information, care, etc). They had so much resistance too, from family, friends and professionals. I also know of two women who have given birth one (several ti

Re: [ozmidwifery] How awful is this!

I GUESS WE ARE ALL APPALLED, BUT I WONDER WHAT WE HAVE DONE ABOUT IT SINCE WE FIRST READ THE POST. II KNOW I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING! (sorry about the caps, wrong key) I suppose the best thing would be to write to Federal & State Health Ministers and especially the Prime Minister on the unintended

Re: [ozmidwifery] radio program and Uk survey

Wow, excellent access to the press articles. But my heart just breaks. It seems everyone is aware of the midwifery shortage. However, as one who is in the process of becoming authorised to practice and will be looking for a midwifery position, if it weren't for this list I would not know tha

Re: [ozmidwifery] radio program and Uk survey

Dear Marilyn, I think your impression regarding advertised midwifery positions is right.  I think many hospitals, birth centres etc. only advertise positions if they have several vacancies and are really worried about staff levels.  Otherwise they rely on midwives and nurses approaching the

Re: [ozmidwifery] Reply required urgently: determining risk of uterine rupture?

In Brisbane, Queensland. - Original Message - From: Lynne Staff To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Reply required urgently: determining risk of uterine rupture? Where are you? - Original M

Re: [ozmidwifery] Reply required urgently: determining risk of uterine rupture?

Thank you Robyn.   I agree with you to go with my instincts but I needed to check if the ultrasound is a standard procedure of c-sectioned women who are interested in homebirthing.     I'm left with a feeling of uneasiness to know that the 2 random midwives (from Sunshine Coast and Brissy are

[ozmidwifery] Date claimer ACMI QLD Conference

Australian College of Midwives – Brisbane Sub-branch Queensland Conference ‘Connecting with Community’ at DPI Joondoburri Conference Centre Bribie Island Queensland Friday July 11th  – Sunday 13th 2003 Details will be in MINQ and the National magazine soon   Cheers Barb

Re: [ozmidwifery] Reply required urgently: determining risk of uterine rupture?

It would be great to speak to the ladies who have had multiple c-sections.  Would you please forward their email addresses or forward mine to them?  My email address is:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Thank you. Becky - Original Message - From: Lynne Staff To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[ozmidwifery] Sent to me by a friend....(joke)

        Q: How many midwives does it take to change a light bulb?A: Six. One to change it and five to stop the obstetricians from interferring. LuvRhonda   IncrediMai

Re: [ozmidwifery] Date claimer ACMI QLD Conference

Thanks Barb - Original Message - From: Greg Barbara Cook To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:51 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Date claimer ACMI QLD Conference Australian College of Midwives – Brisbane Sub-branch Queensland Co

Re: [ozmidwifery] Lactation Consultant on the Sunshine Coast, QLD

Dear Jo, Sorry I have taken so long,phone is (07) 33969718.Ann. so busy. --- Mrs joanne m fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Anne, yes could you give me her details. > Cheers, Joanne. > > - Original Message - > From: "Ann green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent

[ozmidwifery] Nick Fisk

For those who don't know, he is on record as being very pro-CS.Oh! don't forget though that he is anti-riding a bike without a helmet and drink driving!  (in reference to the stupid remark he made about 12 month back, that drink driving is safer than natural child birth)  once again...my com

[ozmidwifery] Sorry to any blonde girls but this did give me a laugh...

Now who was the joke on really...  POSSIBLY THE BEST BLONDE JOKE OF THE YEAR.A blonde went into a world wide message center tosend a message to her mother overseas. When theman told her it would cost $30, she exclaimed:"I don't have $30, but I'd do ANYTHING

Re: [ozmidwifery] How awful is this!

I have found out from my daughter that this was actually hearsay, but one would think that there was some basis to it. Perhaps someone on the list from ABA (Barb?) could further enlighten us? Joy Joy Cocks RN (Div 1) RM CBE IBCLC BRIGHT Vic 3741 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message ---

Re: [ozmidwifery] radio program and Uk survey

Thanks so much for this info, Lois. This list has been invaluable to me in countless ways. It was lovely to meet you at Noosa also.    I am just wondering if this lack of advertising of vacancies is what maintains this staff shortage and consequently maintains this random access to appropria

[ozmidwifery] Intuitive Midwifery Workshop

Title: Message Dear All,   Looking forward to coming to Melbourne next weekend for the Intuitive Midwifery workshop. We do still have a couple of places... and I just wanted to remind everyone that there is a discount price of $250 for students and those under financial squeeze.   Last wee

Re: [ozmidwifery] Reply required urgently: determining risk of uterine rupture?

Hi, I am an Independent Midwife in Tasmania and have attended three women who have had normal birth after caesarian, two of them had two caesarians before, and one had four, except for a longish labour( maybe having to work through fear) they all birthed well two at home, and one transferred

RE: [ozmidwifery] radio program and Uk survey

Dear Lynne I think it went something like "Natural Birth is more dangerous than drink driving !" or "Natural Birth is as foolish as riding a motorbike without a helmet !" hug Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544

Re: [ozmidwifery] Nick Fisk

Also dont forget that Nick Fisk was bred in the land of the fearful obstetrician - Australia. We're now exporting their fear based agenda's. Jo & Dean Bainbridge wrote: 01c270cc$fdfc39c0$0360443d@amd400"> For those who don't know, he is on record as being very pro-CS. Oh! don't for

Re: [ozmidwifery] How awful is this!

Dear Joy, I read the message, but have since deleted it. I believe the question on the booking form was (filled out at 6/40) was "are you intending to have an elective caesarian? If so give date" It would have been against the ABA code of ethics to identify the hospital, so we have no way of k