Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwife in Geelong area?

2002-11-10 Thread TinaPettigrew
In a message dated 10/11/02 6:08:15 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey thats my post!! What a small world the net can be... :) But yes- if anyone can point me in the direction of a couple of midwives in this area, I would be truly grateful!! Cheers- Isis Hi Isis

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re : Julia's birth

2002-11-10 Thread Robin Moon
h, that sounds SO beautiful. Snowy haired babies are always my favourites, I could only imagine what a water-birthed one looks like. :-) Robin - Original Message - From: Larry Megan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 4:35 PM Subject:

Re: [ozmidwifery] what doctors learn at med school!

2002-11-10 Thread Sue Cookson
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] what doctors learn at med school! Hi everyone, One of my daugters is studying medicine, and she is appalled at the common 'ethic' or attitude of fellow med students. A typical example would be that she was taught that baby's breathing mechanism is stimulated initially

Re: [ozmidwifery] hurtful birth experiences

2002-11-10 Thread rem melissa bruijn
MArgie - just wanted to say THANK YOU for these words. The biggest thing I am finding for anyone who has been traumatised by their birth experience is GETTING VALIDATION. Everytime someone says It is not ok, as you have, it lets us hear that our pain is valid. We usually hear but you're fine

RE: [ozmidwifery] what doctors learn at med school!

2002-11-10 Thread Robyn Thompson
Debby's articulate points to Tina'sBBQ discussion are very interesting.I have extrapolated out of the 2nd pointthe sentence below to which I offer my point of view. ...why can't you do a Bachelor of Science or Nursing with a major in Midwifery...??? Because it is my belief that if we

Re: [ozmidwifery] Gold Coast Midwife

2002-11-10 Thread rem melissa bruijn
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Gold Coast Midwife Hi, Tory, I am in Brisbane but know quite a few fantastic people on the Gold Coast who could support your sister-in-law (don't actually know any midwives, but these people I am recommending will - and support can come from all angles!). I hope it is

Re: [ozmidwifery] healing and connecting after c/sec WAS dimensions - violent birth

2002-11-10 Thread rem melissa bruijn
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] healing and connecting after c/sec WAS dimensions - violent birth Something I like to do for Ceasarean born babies...and breech born too...is spend time massaging the babe from crown down the body to the toes, making sure every part of the body is stimulated...

Re: [ozmidwifery] info on cholestasis

2002-11-10 Thread Kirsten Blacker
She needs to have liver function monitored regularly once she starts itching. It may be that she develops this earlier in this pregnancy and induction may need to be done earlier to coincide with that. Cholestasis has a horrendously high risk of stillbirth, and shouldn't be taken lightly. There

Fw: [ozmidwifery] what doctors learn at med school!

2002-11-10 Thread elizabeth mcalpine
Dear Robyn, Powerful, brilliant letter. I second everything you said. And, in fact, the WHO consensus for health promotion 1986 - nearly 20 years ago recommended the same thing and we are still no further forward. love lizmc edited LEGISLATION Midwifery as a distinct and legitimate

[ozmidwifery] healing and connecting after c/sec /violent birth

2002-11-10 Thread elizabeth mcalpine
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] healing and connecting after c/sec WAS dimensions -  violent birth Melissa, wonderful message to pass on to everyone ..thanks lizmc I started massaging my boy when he was quite new, and we both got so much out of it - we still do (he's 3 now * skin-to-skin as

[ozmidwifery] autism study

2002-11-10 Thread Larry Megan
Does anyone know more about the study done in WA looking at children with autism and their birth experience. Have a snippet from The Advertiser, saying women who had experienced difficult births or caesarean were more likely to have a child develop autism than those who had a normal birth. The

Re: [ozmidwifery] autism study

2002-11-10 Thread elizabeth mcalpine
Megan, don't know about MMR, or the WA study, but if you look at www.birthworks.com/primalhealth/ you will find the research database violent birth and autism lizmc Subject: [ozmidwifery] autism study Does anyone know more about the study done in WA looking at children with autism and their

RE: [ozmidwifery] Haemoglobin and ferritin levels

2002-11-10 Thread Jane Palmer
Dear Sue The normal range of Ferritin in 10 to 150 - so 14 is in normal range. A lot of my clients have ferritin levels taken - and most of the time they are around 10 to 20 in the last trimester of pregnancy. Hb levels above 105 are also normal Cheers Jane Pregnancy, Birth and Beyond Caring,

[ozmidwifery] BMid course sturcture @ Victoria University

2002-11-10 Thread Jennifer Semple
Isis anyone else that's interested, Victoria Uni has the course structure for their Bachelor of Midwifery on their website http://www.vu.edu.au/Faculties/Human% 20Development/Schools/Nursing/Undergraduate%20Courses/Bachelor%20of% 20Midwifery.asp Cheers, Jen BMid student, Victoria Uni --

RE: [ozmidwifery] healing and connecting after c/sec /violent birth

2002-11-10 Thread Robyn Thompson
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] healing and connecting after c/sec WAS dimensions -  violent birth I have to tell you that I no longer have a little baby to massage but my puppy is so in love with me when I massage her every morning. Robyn -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[ozmidwifery] Interesting story.

2002-11-10 Thread Rhonda
You know I recently heard of a woman who has 11 children. This was some time ago - I am sure that the friend who told me said that one of the children was my age. So this may be going back as far as 30 yrs or so. The first 6 were delivered by c/s

[ozmidwifery] Fw: Breast Milk

2002-11-10 Thread Rhonda
I am sure we can all think of more than 4 reasons but I definitely like the last one. Rhonda Breast MilkA young man sat in the life science classroom, staring at a question on thefinal exam paper. The question was 'Give four advantages of

[ozmidwifery] induction or miscarriage?

2002-11-10 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Hi, All, Just logged on for the first time in a few days -- 152 new messages, which could take a while. Still haven't come to terms with inducing with pig-semen-derived gel. Don't know if there's been anyone else online with this thought: Is it really induction, or is in fact miscarriage

Re: [ozmidwifery] what doctors learn at med school!

2002-11-10 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] what doctors learn at med school! Higgorance is a terrible thing in those who think they're not higgorant. Golly, Leslie was breathing before his body was out, and with both my Darlings, I didn't cut the cord until long after the placenta was born, they'd been fed,

RE: [ozmidwifery] obs and gobs

2002-11-10 Thread Ann green
Dear List, Well I was told spurious labour was common amongst those who had more than 3 babies and that I had an ineffective womb.Oh well there was a time when women were told they were incompetent to handle money and any title to land or even the right to vote.So now our cervix and wombs are

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Fw: FW:

2002-11-10 Thread Terry Garnons-Williams
I've been told that it takes five shots of seminal fluid (in quick order) to reach the same doasge as that given to women to induce labour with pharmaceutical PG's And from the stories I've been told, it works beautifully - in LOTS of lovely ways. Cheers! Terry - Original Message

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Fw: FW:

2002-11-10 Thread Kirsten Blacker
Now I've always thought/believed/heard that it is the WOMAN"S orgasm that contributes more prostaglandins than the mans. THoughts? Kirsten - Original Message - From: Terry Garnons-Williams To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 4:21 PM Subject:

Re: [ozmidwifery] introducing birthtalk

2002-11-10 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Title: introducing "birthtalk" Thank you, Alesa. that means a lot indeed. Aviva - Original Message - From: P A Koziol To: ozmidwifery Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] introducing "birthtalk" Dear Aviva I have always been so sad around the times

Re: [ozmidwifery] autism study

2002-11-10 Thread Debby M
On Sunrise this morning they interviewed a researcher who has found a link between autism and excessive brain growth in babies from about the 4th month. Their correlation went further to say that the more pronounced the excessive brain growth was the more severe the autism as the child got older.

Re: [ozmidwifery] autism study

2002-11-10 Thread Debby M
Just found this. This is the congress where they are speaking about autism and the abnormal brain growth theory. http://www.autismcongress.com/speaker.html DebbyTired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or

[ozmidwifery] Prostoglandins

2002-11-10 Thread Rhonda
Now I thought it was a case of the woman's orgasm causes the uterus to contract very strongly which then if the body and babyare ready, bring on labour. I didn't know that women produced much prostoglandin at all but it is in human men's semen in a lower

Re: [ozmidwifery] Prostoglandins

2002-11-10 Thread TinaPettigrew
In a message dated 11/11/02 3:55:16 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now I thought it was a case of the woman's orgasm causes the uterus to contract very strongly which then if the body and baby are ready, bring on labour. I didn't know that women produced much

FW: [ozmidwifery] Prostoglandins

2002-11-10 Thread Sally Westbury
As my sweet daughter said. who would have thought of it before they thought of it J Sally Westbury -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rhonda Sent: Monday, 11 November 2002 12:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: [ozmidwifery] what doctors learn at med school!

2002-11-10 Thread Carolyn Donaghey
I had the dubious pleasure of sharing last semester with a group of first year medical students, of which one wished to become an obstetrician, but she couldn't tell me why? They were all in my opinion, abnormally focussed on litigation - this was first years What was really scary was