Re: [ozmidwifery] FW: [birthnews] Social use of Ultrasound in Pregnancy

2002-11-14 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Dear Jodie and all: I would never even think that anyone shouldn't have the right to a social of use ultrasound. Just because I don't think it's the best idea, doesn't mean others shouldn't do it. I don't think however it would prevent many smokers from smoking during pregnancy: having witnessed mu

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: READ - TAKE HEED !!!

2002-11-14 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Hi Kirsten and all: It took me years to remember my SS# in the USA (not even having a TFN in 1978 when I left oz it was quite an experience) and now 24 yrs later in OZ I have had to get my TFN, which I agree is not yet quite the counterpart of the SS#, but nevertheless necessary. Of course now I k

Re: [ozmidwifery] Calling for book reviewers

2002-11-14 Thread Robin Moon
Hi Andrea, I would be happy to be a book reviewer. NameRobin Moon Postal address 16 Chester Street Epping Phone number98691211 Area of interest/expertise:Midwifery Robin - Original Message - From: "Andrea Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: READ - TAKE HEED !!!

2002-11-14 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
- Original Message - From: "Kirsten Blacker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: READ - TAKE HEED !!! > as an Aussie existing in the USA, can I just say that our tax file number > doesn't even begin to equa

RE: [ozmidwifery] FW: [birthnews] Social use of Ultrasound in Pregnancy

2002-11-14 Thread Margie Perkins
Julia I agree with what you are saying about the anxiety. The pressure to be a perfect incubator - the guilt feltover doing this or doing that - and produce a perfect baby is big. I had an interesting conversation with a woman the other day. I supported her for her first baby's birth two years

Re: [ozmidwifery] what doctors learn at med school!

2002-11-14 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Oh, shucks, Edwina! I don't ask "why me?" I've had such incredible experiences in my life, I feel very privileged. I consider myself very rich. I declare, "Why -- MEE!!" Love and hugs to you and Kasia, Aviva - Original Message - From: Vance & Edwina To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Se

Re: [ozmidwifery] Need help with a question asked in a c/ed class

2002-11-14 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Only had nitrous oxide a couple of times; don't know whether it affected my asthma. Deep SLOW breathing is good for asthmatic lungs, so maybe she breathes too fast.   I used to work with a doctor in Amsterdam, who'd give us all a hit of it before my stretching and vocal dance classes! Turned

Re: [ozmidwifery] Julia's birth

2002-11-14 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
ah, now for letting it go, Afro-Cuban dance is the way to go! grins, aviva - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Julia's birth In a message dated 11/14/02 8:25:54 AM W. Australia Stand

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: READ - TAKE HEED !!!

2002-11-14 Thread Julie Garratt
Hi :) Not a bad idea to photocopy all your travellers checks , plane tickets and your passport when going OS. Then leave a copy with your family at home in case you have any trouble.      Julie'',   - Original Message - Fr

[ozmidwifery] Seeking Midwife

2002-11-14 Thread P & A Koziol
Dear List I am seeking assistance for a client who is leaving Australia to birth in Sri Lanka (!). She is now 22/52 and is currently planning to birth in Columbo but would dearly love some direct contact from a Midwife 'on the ground' to assist her. Does anyone have any contacts they could se

Re: [ozmidwifery] FW: [birthnews] Social use of Ultrasound in Pregnancy

2002-11-14 Thread Jodie Miller
OK, just one more comment before I let the topic lie... On Friday 15 November 2002 02:56, Marilyn Kleidon wrote: > Just a couple of 2 cents on this. I think it is sad that people think this > makes the pregnancy real or more real, surely by 20weeks there are other > more real signs that signal thi

Re: [ozmidwifery] Ultrasound in Pregnancy - Birthnews and ozmidwifery lists

2002-11-14 Thread Jodie Miller
Thank you Andrea, I was not aware of this situation... Jodie On Friday 15 November 2002 09:32, Andrea Robertson wrote: > Hi Jodie, > > The Birthnews list (operated by Capers) is completely separate from the > ozmidwifery list, which is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Some people choose to > send the

Re: [ozmidwifery] FW: [birthnews] Social use of Ultrasound inPregnancy

2002-11-14 Thread Sue Cookson
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] FW: [birthnews] Social use of Ultrasound in Pregnancy Hi, just thought I'd add part of an article on u/sounds cited recently on this list. From: www.mayo.edu/ultrasound/news > When ultrasound hits bone, Fatemi says, it can produce vibrations in a fetus's > sensitive hea

Re: [ozmidwifery] FW: [birthnews] Social use of Ultrasound in Pregnancy

2002-11-14 Thread Kirsten Blacker
What about the Raine study done in Perth in the 1990s? I thought that showed a link between multiple USS and decreased birth weight (albeit only 30g) and an increased risk of being SFGA? Kirsten in the USA where they do a USS every darn visit - Original Message - From: Debby

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: READ - TAKE HEED !!!

2002-11-14 Thread Kirsten Blacker
as an Aussie existing in the USA, can I just say that our tax file number doesn't even begin to equal the value of the SS number. You can't even get the PHONE connected without a SS number (I kid you not). One of the things that annoys me constantly is when I go to inservice I have to give my SS n

[ozmidwifery] Calling for book reviewers

2002-11-14 Thread Andrea Robertson
Hi listers, We are once again looking for volunteers to add to our team of book reviewers. Each year we receive a number of new tiles that we add to our list on the web site and in our catalogue and as a service to our customers, we like to be able to point buyers to a review of the book to gi

RE: [ozmidwifery] FW: [birthnews] Social use of Ultrasound in Pregnancy

2002-11-14 Thread Julie Clarke
Dear Sally I agree in theory that ultrasound can reduce anxiety over baby’s wellbeing, however, when I started teaching classes 15 years ago everyone was mildly anxious over their baby’s wellbeing, and currently I find they are actually more anxious. How do I measure this ? By listening

Re: [ozmidwifery] FW: [birthnews] Social use of Ultrasound in Pregnancy

2002-11-14 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Debby, I agree with everything you have to say, however I think analogies always are dependent on the perceivers experience and knowledge. I guess to me saying that the ultrasonic image presented on the 3-D type photos are most like a photograph is saying that the computer program used to tu

[ozmidwifery] Thoughts on insurance.

2002-11-14 Thread Rhonda
  Our solicitor, in light of our situation, and not being able to get insurance has suggested that we become Incorporated.  Because they have to sue us personally as the person who performed the procedure - all of our assets would then be owned by the compan

RE: [ozmidwifery] FW: [birthnews] Social use of Ultrasound in Pregnancy

2002-11-14 Thread Sally Westbury
The women I work with usually don’t have ultrasounds. It is easy with this group of women who are making informed choices throughout their journey.   I approach ultrasound discussions from many viewpoints.   Safety?? Or lack of?? The usefulness of the u/s,ie what will we do wi

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: READ - TAKE HEED !!!

2002-11-14 Thread Brian White
This is obviously American advice - Australian's don't have Social Security numbers. I guess the closest thing is the Tax File Number. However - the photocopying everything is *good* advice. I have heard similar advice about going overseas, which I follow - I always take several photocopies of th

Re: [ozmidwifery] Ultrasound in Pregnancy - Birthnews and ozmidwifery lists

2002-11-14 Thread Andrea Robertson
Hi Jodie, The Birthnews list (operated by Capers) is completely separate from the ozmidwifery list, which is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Some people choose to send their posts to both lists and then if there is a reply, it will pop up on both lists, unless Capers have deleted it from their list

Re: [ozmidwifery] FW: [birthnews] Social use of Ultrasound in Pregnancy

2002-11-14 Thread Debby M
I had a chat with my hubby about this issue as he is a sonographer.  On the accuracy of the image representations they are actually very accurate.  Yes the image is a computer composite of ultrasonic images but the information received is accurately calculated into a composite picture - not an int

Re: [ozmidwifery] accreditation

2002-11-14 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] accreditation Sorry, Laraine to have missed this post earlier:   As you are probably aware there are 2 types of professional midwives in the USA: Certified Professional Midwives (CPM's) and Certified Nurse Midwives (CNM's). CPM's are regulated by the various state re

Re: [ozmidwifery] Angela Pridham and Robyn Skewes contact?

2002-11-14 Thread Ann Grieve
Dear Denise Angela Pridham may be contacted through Wollongong Hospital where she is the acting area clinical midwifery educator for the Illawarra Area Health Service . Sorry don't know her email but the phone number should be easy enough to find from directory assistance. Cheers Ann Grieve Julie

Re: [ozmidwifery] accreditation

2002-11-14 Thread Jan Robinson
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] accreditation On 4/11/02 10:36 AM, "Laraine Hood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I am currently undertaking my Masters in Mid, tackling the subject of accreditation/credentialling of independent midwives. In the light of current PI issues, and the NMAP push, I felt that

[ozmidwifery] Fw: READ - TAKE HEED !!!

2002-11-14 Thread Rhonda
  I am not sure if these numbers work from Australia but the advice is good in this day and age.  I would never have thought to photocopy what was in my purse.  Regards Rhonda.  I don't know if a corporate attorney actually sent this out, b

Re: [ozmidwifery] salad tongs, crotchet hooks and the hover!

2002-11-14 Thread Andrea Quanchi
Just a funny note to add, I have a client who is a chef who while quite high on nitrous oxide claimed that the doctor was holding salad servers when she saw the forceps. After watching him apply obstertric cream to them said "see he's putting the dressing on them". Of course we all cracked up.

Re: [ozmidwifery] FW: [birthnews] Social use of Ultrasound in Pregnancy

2002-11-14 Thread Rhonda
At the time I thought that the ultrasounds that i had were lovely but they also caused me a lot of confusion. With katyelyn I did not want to know the sex of my baby but at 26 wks raced into the labour ward - terribly hperflexic the doctor called for an ultr

Re: [ozmidwifery] info on cholestasis

2002-11-14 Thread Andrea Quanchi
Has been discussed before so you could go to the archives of the list or try http://www.angelfire.com/sc/weltin/icptreatment.html http://www.demon.co.uk/charities/liver-t/obs_chol.html (Happened to read this at work and know where the articles were) Andrea Q -- This mailing list is sponsored b

RE: [ozmidwifery] what doctors learn at med school!

2002-11-14 Thread Vance & Edwina
Aviva, I wish I could make the world a better and more fairer place. I too know what it is like to make do and sometimes I look back with affection and gratitude at the lessons I learned back then. Now I am one of the "middle class" who adore being entertained by people such as you and I have a

[ozmidwifery] Need help with a question asked in a c/ed class

2002-11-14 Thread Julie Clarke
Hi all A pregnant woman has asked me “Does nitrous oxide affect asthmatics?” and  “especially with regard to the deep breathing?”  she feels that deep breathing triggers her asthma. I would appreciate any comments and suggestions in response please. Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting

RE: [ozmidwifery] Angela Pridham and Robyn Skewes contact?

2002-11-14 Thread Julie Clarke
Dear Denise Robyn Skewes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry unable to assist with the other address. hug   Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania  NSW  2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 F (02) 9544 9257 M. 0401 265 530 email [EMAIL P