[ozmidwifery] VBAC Pamphlet

Yesterday, when visiting one of my clients who is planning a VBAC, she showed me a pamphlet her Obs had given her (he is pro VBAC obviously).  It is a new 'release' from the RCOG for women and is positive toward VBACs!! The pamphlet is quite well written, decent language generally, and point

Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water

Dear Frank - I endorse the comments of Mary, Jan, Sally etc. I'm assuming you've had extensive experience with water births to come to this enlightened opinion. I've never seen a newborn baby so filled with air that it is like a ball underwater... in fact, in my text book they have no air at all

RE: [ozmidwifery] Tongue Tie

Hi Jo, I'm not sure on this but I have heard that a speech pathologist can assist with this and of course a good osteopathic treatment can also be of benefit. Good luck, Megan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jo Slamen Sent: Friday, 6 Decem

[ozmidwifery] Caesareans!

Hi , Yesterday I had a wee chat to Bruce Sutherland - he started the Hawthorn Birth Centre and still has a few births there each month as well as his other obstetric practice. He was telling me - utterly mortfied - that the previous day a well known private hospital in Melbourne had a busy d

Re: [ozmidwifery] SEEKING RESPONDENTS

Alphia, I am planning a homebirth for my third child in Feb and would be very happy to be interviewed if you still need people (I live in Adelaide). If you are interested, email me back and I'll give you my phone number. Kathy Lynch - Original Message - From: "Alphia Garrety" <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water

Dear All, The most important right that a birthing mother has is to give birth GENTLY, EASILY and without PAIN. What really upsets me, is that most women expect pain, and what you expect, is what you get. And yes, I know I'm oversimplifying, however, pain is a warning that something is wrong

[ozmidwifery] Stress!!!

> Found this in our local motorcycle newsletter, and thought you'd enjoy a = > giggle > > A Prayer for the Stressed > Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, > The courage to change the things I cannot accept, > & the wisdom to hide the bodies of those People I had to kill

Re: [ozmidwifery] Stress!!!

Hi Laraine, Thanks - its one of those nights - Saturday - NO-Sleep over ( 3 eleven year old boys/ sleeping bags on lounge floor/ videos/pillow fights - noisy of course!) a laugh helps! This one applies so well to me!! 'And also, help me to be careful of the toes I step on today as they may = be

Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water

Hello Frank, You have an interesting approach, but I think the clou of your story is to think that pain is equivalent to hurt. Giving a mother an epidural can hurt her more than help her cope with pain of normal labour Pain in labour is fysiological and when a women can cope with the pain, it will

[ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water

Pete,   I my opinion i would want the water to be at a "drinking" quality at least! This would require boiling and filtering to remove bacteria and infectious substances especially in the case of a tear. Your water would have to be "pre-prepared" comming up to the time of delivery and held i

Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water

Frank, that wasn't worth two bob! Darren -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: [ozmidwifery] tongue ties...

Now that's one of those ideas that's so easy, so obvious, that it takes a brilliant woman to think of! aviva - Original Message - From: Janine and Steve Clark To: Ozmid Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 7:52 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] tongue ties... Hi all,   A friend of mine had a b

Re: [ozmidwifery] Tongue Tie

Me too. They seem to be a weird breed. Alice's bub is doing really well...feeding like it's going out of style, sleeping 4-5 and a half hours (at less than a week), is bright as a button when she is awake, etc. the dream baby, but the mchn made her wake her up to be weighed the other day and

Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water

I'm pedantic. It's not bouancy; it's buoyancy. And there are too many beautiful water births for me to be convinced Frank has any credibility in this. But I don't know about dam water...dams can have some horrible stuff in them. Aviva   ---   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.griso

Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water

Oh, Lieve, that's wonderful! Groetjes, Aviva - Original Message - From: Lieve Huybrechts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water Hello Frank, You have an interesting approach, but I think the clou of your story

RE: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water

Good Morning Frank - WELL..where do I begin with this? I guess firstly in that I get a great mental image of a baby shooting skywards, breaking throught the surface of the water and towards the heavens (as you so eloquently compared it to pushing a ball under the water, and as this is what a ba

Re: [ozmidwifery] Caesareans!

Hey, Pinky, Bruce Sutherland was at Rosie's birth in Vaucluse! I'd have had a homebirth, only I didn't have a home. Peter Lucas was to have been there, but was trekking in Nepal.  Bruce was excellent...did virtually nothing but respect my wishes. Please say hello to him for me, not that he'd

Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC Pamphlet

Dear Laraine - any chance of a copy of this??  I'd like to use it to support my webpage on VBAC which I'm planning to write.  Plus it would be good to have to give to VBAC women for info when they visit their GP/obs.  Ta, Lois  - Original Message - From: Laraine Hood To

Re: [ozmidwifery] Homebirth Australia Journal

Dear Lynne - how did you go with this? Are you still in need of contributions? I'd be interested in being involved -- any way you think appropriate. Kind regards, Lois - Original Message - From: "Lynne Staff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 8

Re: [ozmidwifery] Homebirth Australia Journal

Lois this message was from Margie Perkins as we were getting the magazine together. I hope to have it printed and sent by the 18th of December so if you have anything quick and easy would love to see it. My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Justine xxx > Dear Lynne - how did you go with this? Are y

[ozmidwifery] breast/bottle

Is there any research that supports breast is more taxing than bottle for the premature newborn . the paed says only 2 b/f in 24hrs and the other [ 6] gavage or bottle .Its a fight to increase b/f in this active well fattening up boy born at 32 weeks and now 10 days old back to birth weight

Re: [ozmidwifery] breast/bottle

on the contrary there is evidence to suggest that breastfeeding is LESS energy demanding than bottle feeding. Do a search of the lactnet archives as this has been discussed in the past   http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/lactnet.html   Kirsten Blacker - Original Message - Fro

Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC Pamphlet

Hi! Where can I get a copy of this pamphlet? Tere - Original Message - From: Laraine Hood To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 3:33 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] VBAC Pamphlet Yesterday, when visiting one of my clients who is planning a VB

Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water

Hi Frank, in the spirit of good discussion, not hostility, I offer the thought that the people who tell me about pain free labour and birth are all men. Despite the thoughts behind the sentiments about why women fear labour and feel pain, Even in Biblical times women felt pain and expressed the em

Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in water

Frank, another thought about that bouancy theme. We all have bouancy in water, no problem there. What has it got to do with the baby and birthing? the baby is in the often water filled uterus and is then squezed out through the vagina. It would be held very tightly by the muscles of the uter

Re: [ozmidwifery] Homebirth Australia Journal

Pretty Please e-mail me the ad!!! half page or 1 page is fine Love Justine > Dear Justine, > > If you have a "What's on" section, could you please advertise ABA and > NACE's seminars featuring Sheila Kitzinger. I'm not using my proper > computer today, or I could e-mail a proper ad. Let

[ozmidwifery] Homebirth Australia Journal

Dear Justine, If you have a "What's on" section, could you please advertise ABA and NACE's seminars featuring Sheila Kitzinger. I'm not using my proper computer today, or I could e-mail a proper ad. Let me know if it's possible for you to do this, & if it is, how much room you could spare. Love