RE: [ozmidwifery] 3rdStage Feedback

2003-12-10 Thread Larry & Megan
Hi Denise, birthed first baby in level 3 public hospital in Adelaide with private obs, oxytocic given (Dr's practice), but at the same time we had asked for the cord to stop pulsating before cut. It was never expalined to me that my baby would receive so much of this drug due to our choice o

Re: [ozmidwifery] I've had a baby (long)

2003-12-10 Thread Ron & Nicole Christensen
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] I've had a baby (long) correction - I meant that by watching the caesaraian on the today show - a young woman would  (b) equate/associate birth as a medical procedure  NOT what I mistakingly wrote (that she would see the caesarian as a medical procedure!!! der!!!). j

Re: [ozmidwifery] I've had a baby (long)

2003-12-10 Thread Sylvia
Jackie,   Yours was a beautiful story, which I relished. I'm so glad that you and your family have that wonderous experience to treasure and I really didn't intend to bring you down from your high...I'm very sorry if I did so.   Justine,   I'm well aware of the appalling LUSCS statistics and state

Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rdStage Feedback

2003-12-10 Thread JoFromOz
That is used for women who are grand multi's or history of PPH.   HTH.   Jo   Original Message From: Marilyn KleidonTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:43 AMSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rdStage Feedback> Wow Jo: what evidence is this based on??> > marilyn> -

Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rdStage Feedback

2003-12-10 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Wow Jo: what evidence is this based on??   marilyn - Original Message - From: JoFromOz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rdStage Feedback At our hospital when a 3rd stage is 'actively managed' it

Re: [ozmidwifery] I've had a baby (long)

2003-12-10 Thread Ron & Nicole Christensen
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] I've had a baby (long) can ABSOLUTELY relate to your e-mail Jo. My first two babies were born naturally (drug and intervention free) in our local small hospital. The second was particularly wonderful for a hospital birth - we were SO lucky to have a fantastic midwif

Re: [ozmidwifery] I've had a baby (long)

2003-12-10 Thread Rob and Claire Leslie-Carter
Similar to Jo, I get very narked when people tell me how lucky and brave I am. I believed them after my first baby, and thought that I was just one of those people (because that's what I was being told), but after my second I realised that being at home was a freedom from intervention and that

Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rdStage Feedback

2003-12-10 Thread Mary Murphy
AAGH! "At our hospital when a 3rd stage is 'actively managed' it means 30 units of synto in a 500ml bag of CSL is run through at 240ml/hr after the usual syntometrine jab in the leg.  It has become such routine that syntometrine isn't really considered active management anymore.Jo"  

Re: [ozmidwifery] Pertinent quote

2003-12-10 Thread Mary Murphy
Thanks Jo, but I cannot claim them as my own research.  every month I get the "Midwifery Today" e-news letter and they publish them.  I have  met quite a few of the midwives /women quoted so it makes it very personal.  I love to pick out the "goodies" Cheers, MM   http://www.midwiferyto

Re: [ozmidwifery] Response from Today Show

2003-12-10 Thread Dierdre Bowman
Funny that thought crossed my mind!! Dierdre.

Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rdStage Feedback

2003-12-10 Thread JoFromOz
At our hospital when a 3rd stage is 'actively managed' it means 30 units of synto in a 500ml bag of CSL is run through at 240ml/hr after the usual syntometrine jab in the leg.  It has become such routine that syntometrine isn't really considered active management anymore.   Jo   Original

RE: [ozmidwifery] I've had a baby (long)

2003-12-10 Thread Sally Westbury
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] I've had a baby (long) These days I do say.. wow you are brave to have you baby in the hospital. The state average is 28% that you will end up with a c/s .. with the community midwives you have a 12% chance of a C/S… you are brave to go to the hospitals…   sally

Re: [ozmidwifery] I've had a baby (long)

2003-12-10 Thread jo hunter
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] I've had a baby (long) It really p#%*$*s me off when another woman says "wow, you're brave having homebirths" when I say I had my babies at home. I wouldn't be so rude and disrespectful as to say to them "wow, you're brave having hospital births" even though that is w

Re: [ozmidwifery] Pertinent quote

2003-12-10 Thread jo hunter
I love your quotes Mary and often fwd them to the HAS committee and they are then often published in our mag as a parting quote. Thanks for your inspiration. Jo Hunter - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: list Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:48 PM Subj

Re: [ozmidwifery] Response from Today Show

2003-12-10 Thread Ron & Nicole Christensen
tell that to the Australian Broadcasting Authority Tracey    Nicole   ps - i am just wondering how passionate Tracey would be if it were the OTHER WAY ROUND - ie - they showed a homebirth instead of an ELECTIVE caeasarian would she be so staunchly defensive and as loyal as she is now???

Re: [ozmidwifery] I've had a baby (long)

2003-12-10 Thread Ron & Nicole Christensen
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] I've had a baby (long) ditto ditto ditto - Jayne & Justine!!! I too felt the exhileration in Jackie's e-mail - and rightly so!!! Well done Jackie When Jackie compares caesarians to natural/home birth - she would be referring to those women who 'choose' to have 'e

[ozmidwifery] Pertinent quote

2003-12-10 Thread Mary Murphy
Quote of the Week "So that we can honor all kinds of mothers, let us also honor the midwives who offer them all kinds of choices."— Robbie Davis-Floyd

RE: [ozmidwifery] 3rdStage Feedback

2003-12-10 Thread Ken Ward
I talk to the women, give the balances info and comment that O prefer not to give it. I have found that it has only been when I have given synto that I have trouble with 3rd stage.  Recently was with a woman, no blood loss at birth, I only recognised separation because the cord lengthened an

RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw:(WOW) birth and breastfeeding attitudes

2003-12-10 Thread Ken Ward
Am I the only one who BF on the loo? Baby was fussy, roared like a bull if taken off the boobie. I got desperate and ended up with him feeding and me .ing. This in 1986. I was BF in public in 1976, and got the same mix of reactions. Nothing much has changedMaureen -Original Messa

Re: [ozmidwifery] Today show c/s - Ric Porter

2003-12-10 Thread Justine Caines
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Today show c/s - Ric Porter Hello Robin and all Wasn’t it Dr Ric Gordon? If so he has been quite a supporter of the non-evidence based approach to birth eg quoted on A Current Affair’s website saying c/s was the safest way to give birth and also on his slot on Good Med

Re: [ozmidwifery] Today show c/s - Ric Porter

2003-12-10 Thread *G and S*
Hi Robin, I appreciate your support of Dr Ric. You are obviously well qualified to comment on him in a personal light.   I still remain, however

[ozmidwifery] Today show c/s - Ric Porter

2003-12-10 Thread Robin Moon
i'm afraid I need to stick my hand up ( just a little) in support of this obstetrician.   I worked with him for many years in the hospital system and thereafter was his consultant midwife in private practise with him; our daughters were friends at  school, so I think I know him reasonably we

Re: [ozmidwifery] I've had a baby (long)

2003-12-10 Thread Justine Caines
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] I've had a baby (long) I agree Jayne, and BLOODY GREAT job Jackie.  Remember our chat in Darwin.  I have ‘borrowed’ your marathon analogy re being rescued from natural birth! Thanks Also Sylvia.  I think you need to consider a few factors of current maternity services i