references of that research on primips if you have them. Thanks.
Cheers, Joanne
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From: Michelle Windsor
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 3:52 PM
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Hi Leanne,
There is some evidence now
midwife.
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Sent: 02 March 2005 21:57
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
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Hi Sue,
You mentioned adding an ice pack to her uterus. How does
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From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:24 PM
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Jenny:
I know that what you say is Australian practice and if i were attending
homebirths here I would
their MROP rates in hospital may actually be
similar.
marilyn
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From: Jenny Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:59 AM
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Hello Marilyn
I am surprised
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Needless to say the procedure is not done very often and always the
preferred place would be a hospital and under analgesia if not
anaesthetic.
If it where done at home it would always be with the consultation of a
backup obstetrician by telephone
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Manual removal of a separated placenta is different to manual removal of a
placenta still attached to the uterine wall. Removing a separated placenta
from the os or lower segment is not difficult
different than removing a placenta trapped
in the vaginal vault, the os, or lower segment.
marilyn
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From: Jenny Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:00 PM
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Manual
Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:59 PM
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Hi,
I would definitely treat this woman like all others and assume
physiological 3rd stage is sufficient.
I have never actively managed a 3rd
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*Sent:* Monday, February 28, 2005 1:34 PM
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Totally agree Sue. I was taught manual removal too and exactly the
same re
when to apply gentle but firm CCT. However, for a manual removal
at home you
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From: Sue Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 7:31 AM
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Hi Sue,
I was taught that if doing a manual removal would effectively save
no PPH but stay on your toes ...always my motto.
Sue
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From: leanne wynne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:43 PM
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Hi All,
I would be interested to hear from any
.
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
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Hi,
I would definitely treat this woman like all others and assume
physiological 3rd stage is sufficient.
I have never actively managed a 3rd stage, and have given syntometrine 3
times only after placentas were born - all
Has anyone had any experience with women eating a chunk of raw
placenta to stop pph? I have read a few things about it and was just wondering
if anyone had experience with this.
Thanks
Love Abby
Eating some placenta does work as the
placenta is full of oxytocin, therefore contracts the uterus.
Taking placenta as medicine also is very
helpful for postnatal depression.
Recently I have had an amazing result from
taking placenta pills to treat a woman who has debilitating
Hi Abby,
You'd have to be quick and really believe this will work in the case of
a true and fast PPH.
I have seen a woman taste her placental blood whilst having a trickle
bleed after the placenta was born and the blood loss stopped , but I
can't recall if that was after she got up, in which
Jennifer Cameron FRCNA FACM
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From: leanne wynne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] MORE ACTIVE MANGAEMENT
Hi All,
I would
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From:
Marilyn
Kleidon
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:55
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] MORE ACTIVE
MANGAEMENT
Excellent point. I do think the
500mLdefinition for PPH is spurious. Having been educated
still encourage a
physiological third stage??
Leanne.
From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] MORE ACTIVE MANGAEMENT
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:55:56 -0800
Excellent point. I do think the 500mL
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MANGAEMENT
Marilyn, could you please clarify what you mean
by 'bleeding' in the post-partum. Are you refering to fresh blood loss or
ongoing loss of lochia? I personally found no difference in the length of time
I had a vaginal loss (similar
what others say.
marilyn
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From: leanne wynne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:43 PM
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Hi All,
I would be interested to hear from any experienced homebirth
know
it there is a problem!!!
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From: leanne wynne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] MORE ACTIVE MANGAEMENT
Hi All,
I would be interested to hear from any experienced homebirth
labour. Definetly would be nice to have a 2nd midwife with me.LOve to hear what others say.marilyn- Original Message - From: "leanne wynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <OZMIDWIFERY@ACEGRAPHICS.COM.AU>Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:43 PMSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] MORE ACT
- I am sure all will be fine!
Kim.
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From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Date: 25/02/2005 11:22:38 a.m.
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] MORE ACTIVE MANGAEMENT
I would make sure I had a good supply of oxytocics on hand even maybe have
WITH REGARDS TO THE RESEARCH THAT SUBSTANTIATES THE
CLAIMS THAT ACTIVE MANAGEMENT IS SAFER THAN PHYSIOLOGICAL MANGAEMENT OF THIRD
STAGE,
DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANY
STUDIES COMPARING PHYSIOLOGICAL WHOLE OF LABOUR AND BIRTH WITH ACTIVE MANAGEMENT
OF THIRD STAGE FOLLOWING MANAGED
Ihaven't heard ofa study of this type beingb done. I find it interesting that the NSW policy (similar to many others) of PPH is over 500ml, and yet the WHO states that in healthy populations (ie not anaemic etc) up to 1000ml blood loss may be physiological. It isoften said that blood loss at birth
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From:
Michelle Windsor
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 10:34
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] MORE ACTIVE
MANGAEMENT
Ihaven't heard ofa study of this type beingb done. I
find it interesting that the NSW policy
I wonder if it we would all be more "honest" if we said that, in the main,
we really only measure that blood loss within the immediate post partum couple
of hours. ie while in delivery suite, or before the midwife goes home 2-3
hrs after the birth.I realise that if a woman continues to
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