[Pce] 答复: PCEP as an SDN controller protocol?

2017-07-20 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, I support the idea of selecting PCEP as an SDN controller protocol, but did not support the idea that let PCEP do all the work that IGP/BGP has accomplished. >From the viewpoint of network operator, we think SDN can introduce some flexibility/controllability to our network and we think the

Re: [Pce] PCEP as an SDN controller protocol?

2017-07-20 Thread Robert Varga
Hello, On 20/07/17 18:46, Ramon Casellas wrote: > We have implemented BGP-LS but I see no reason why PCEP cannot be > extended for the same (PCEP-LS) being almost functionally equivalent. With my stateful-pcep co-author hat on, I have to say this boils down to what is really needed at the protoco

Re: [Pce] PCEP as an SDN controller protocol?

2017-07-20 Thread Diego R. Lopez
Hi, Having arrived to the PCEverse later than most of you, I must say my impression is exactly the same. I remember asking my colleagues who were already involved why we were not using the term SDN when it became common and, in fact, referencing our PCE implementation in the list of our SDN pro

Re: [Pce] PCEP as an SDN controller protocol?

2017-07-20 Thread Adrian Farrel
Hi, Ramon's last line for me is the core of the argument. > IMHO, with the stateful PCE work we already went beyond the basic > path computation service. You might recall (if you are old and carry a grudge) that I was not an enthusiast for stateful active PCE (i.e., PCInitiate), but like the

Re: [Pce] PCEP as an SDN controller protocol?

2017-07-20 Thread Ramon Casellas
On 7/20/2017 5:22 PM, Jonathan Hardwick wrote: 1.We have not had an explicit discussion in the PCE WG about whether we want to take PCEP in this direction.  We have had a few lively debates on specific cases, like PCEP-LS, but those cases represent the “thin end of the wedge”.  If we start do

[Pce] PCEP as an SDN controller protocol?

2017-07-20 Thread Jonathan Hardwick
Dear PCE WG The purpose of this email is to initiate a discussion about whether we want to extend PCEP to allow it to replace the functions that are traditionally provided by the routing and signalling protocols. Originally, PCEP was designed with the goal of providing a distributed path compu

Re: [Pce] 答复: My Comment on draft-lee-pce-flexible-grid

2017-07-20 Thread Leeyoung
Hi Dieter, I got it. We will clearly state what a frequency slot really means in the document. Thanks Young From: Dieter Beller [mailto:dieter.bel...@nokia.com] Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:23 PM To: Leeyoung ; Zhenghaomian ; Julien Meuric ; pce@ietf.org; draft-lee-pce-flexible-g...@ietf.

Re: [Pce] 答复: My Comment on draft-lee-pce-flexible-grid

2017-07-20 Thread Dieter Beller
Hi Young, On 20.07.2017 11:41, Leeyoung wrote: Hi Dieter,   I agree. In this draft, we refer to https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-09#section-4.1.1

Re: [Pce] 答复: My Comment on draft-lee-pce-flexible-grid

2017-07-20 Thread Leeyoung
Hi Dieter, I agree. In this draft, we refer to https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-09#section-4.1.1 for the available spectrum encoding. Is this what you are referring to, or more than that? Thanks. Young From: Dieter Beller [mailto:dieter.bel...@nokia.com] Sen

Re: [Pce] 答复: My Comment on draft-lee-pce-flexible-grid

2017-07-20 Thread Dieter Beller
Hi all, the description of the available spectrum in draft-lee-pce-flexible-grid should in my opinion be consistent with the available spectrum description in draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext. Please note that the available spectrum is advertis

[Pce] PCE WG Minutes.

2017-07-20 Thread Dhruv Dhody
Hi WG, The draft minutes for the PCE WG session are uploaded. https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/99/minutes/minutes-99-pce-00.txt Please reply, if there any corrections. Thanks to all, who contributed on etherpad. Thanks! Dhruv ___ Pce mailing list Pce

[Pce] 答复: My Comment on draft-lee-pce-flexible-grid

2017-07-20 Thread Zhenghaomian
Hi, Julien and Young, I fully agree on that we should try our best on reusing the existing object/TLVs. FYI, when we are working on GMPLS extensions from fixed-grid (WSON) to flexi-grid, we have some TLVs in parallel (switching types) for fixed/flexi-grid. I assume this is exactly what we ar

Re: [Pce] My Comment on draft-lee-pce-flexible-grid

2017-07-20 Thread Leeyoung
Hi Julien, I agree. A New flag on the object header (WA Object, I assume that is what you are pointing to) where we have a flag to indicate if this is fixed (WSON) or flexi-grid is reasonable instead of creating a new object for a new Spectrum Assignment Object. TLVs require a bit different en

[Pce] My Comment on draft-lee-pce-flexible-grid

2017-07-20 Thread Julien Meuric
Hi, The discussion during the meeting suggests that I need to clarify my comment about draft-lee-pce-flexible-grid. This I-D is very similar to draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext, which addresses the exact same problem over a slightly different WDM label space (running a side-by-side diff between them a