Re: [PD] 32-bit or 64-bit xp for PD?

2008-04-15 Thread B. Bogart
Hi Mika, If the HW seller does not give you an option for whatever OS you want, other than "windows preloaded" then don't buy from that seller. At least all the good deals on HW up here are found in smaller stores that build machines custom to order and will leave it blank if you want. I own two

[PD] state of the FAQ

2008-04-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey, Frank started working on a new FAQ, but it looks like that ended in November. We are sorely in need of a easy-to-maintain FAQ. Is there any word on that? .hc You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world h

Re: [PD] pd2j2me anyone?

2008-04-15 Thread marius schebella
oh, and btw, if pd would be running in some java environment, then it should also be possible to run it as a browser plugin, no? and (another "btw", if you have not done, have a look at lily!!! http://www.lilyapp.org/). and one last thing, (offtopic) are there pills against email addiction? mari

[PD] pd2j2me anyone?

2008-04-15 Thread marius schebella
hi, since there is more and more interest in using pd as a prototyping tool, I think it makes sense to make pd patches portable to other languages/software. maybe it will be important in the future (especially if using pd as a prototyping tool for games for example) to provide interfaces or con

Re: [PD] installatation path of help-files

2008-04-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The core idea of libdirs is to have everything put into one directory, so all have to do to install a library is drop the folder into a directory that is in the path, then the objects, the help files, the examples, and the manuals will all show up in the right place, and you'll be able to

Re: [PD] pd extended development

2008-04-15 Thread marius schebella
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > Lots of people contribute, but I am the person who manages the > releases. Any help is welcome. The path/import/declare stuff is > currently a half-complete effort of Miller's and mine. is there a page where this idea is documented? how is it supposed to wor

Re: [PD] pd-extended licensing policy

2008-04-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
GPL is the only license that can be used for Pd-extended since the code in it is a mix of GPL and BSD-style. GPL doesn't require you to publish any code. It requires to you to give the code to anyone who you give binaries too. If you don't give binaries to anyone, you don't have to give t

Re: [PD] arduino for servos, strings and messages of arbitrary length

2008-04-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 15, 2008, at 12:55 PM, olsen wolf wrote: > Hi Hans > very nice! & Servo_Firmata is working like a charm, with > Analog_Firmata the servo turn's alittle whacky - might be due to the > servos specs?! Cool! It's alpha, so I expect problems. It should be fixable though. > what's a potential

Re: [PD] 32-bit or 64-bit xp for PD?

2008-04-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
If you are willing to do a bit of work on finishing up the 64-bit support, I highly recommend you get a 64-bit OS. But keep in mind then you will have to fix things, and there will be bugs. But the core of Pd should work fine now with 64-bit, that's been supported for a bit. The problem

Re: [PD] pd extended development

2008-04-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Lots of people contribute, but I am the person who manages the releases. Any help is welcome. The path/import/declare stuff is currently a half-complete effort of Miller's and mine. Basically up until recently, I was pursing Pd-extended as a proof of concept for building libraries as stan

[PD] pd-extended licensing policy

2008-04-15 Thread marius schebella
hi, another thing that I ran into, and that I don't really like (but maybe I am to evil, or I have a wrong understanding of the gpl...) is the fact that pd-extended has a more restrictive licence policy than pd itself, which is probably due to the licence policy of some of the externals. it is

[PD] pd extended development

2008-04-15 Thread marius schebella
Hi, is it true, that only hans is working on the pd-extended releases? are there other maintainers? I got the impression in the past that pd-extended is very useful (and I personally use it a lot), but development for it is also very cryptical and almost hidden like a secret. and often things ar

Re: [PD] installatation path of help-files

2008-04-15 Thread marius schebella
oops, so then all the mess comes from pd-extended... maybe we should differentiate between "normal" external behaviour and pd-extended behaviour that could actually be different because it recompiles the externals and also can relocate help-patches in its own way. the "normal" way would be to all

Re: [PD] arduino for servos, strings and messages of arbitrary length

2008-04-15 Thread olsen wolf
Hi Hans very nice! & Servo_Firmata is working like a charm, with Analog_Firmata the servo turn's alittle whacky - might be due to the servos specs?! what's a potential use of the string stuff? salutis olsen On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I

Re: [PD] installatation path of help-files

2008-04-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
marius schebella wrote: > > I think the whole help browser stuff is very messy. there is "1.manual" > versus "manuals" "media" vs "sound" and "7.stuff" versus "examples" some > of the stuff is pd patches, some are textfiles, some are html docs. that is interesting, i just have: 1.manual 2.contr

Re: [PD] installatation path of help-files

2008-04-15 Thread marius schebella
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: >> Roman Haefeli wrote: >>> i cannot speak for hans, of course, but personally i do also install all >>> help-files into 5.reference//, so that they are visible and >>> accessible by pd's help-browser. it seemed to me an easy way to check, >>>

[PD] 32-bit or 64-bit xp for PD?

2008-04-15 Thread Mika Ristimäki
Hi all, I'm sure this has been asked before, but searching the archives I couldn't quite get the answer I was looking for. I am getting a new desktop computer and my options for OS are 32-bit or 64-bit XP or 64-bit Vista. Sadly no Linux, so I have to cope with Windows. The CPU will be Quad

Re: [PD] no help file for Gem objects

2008-04-15 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > afaik, your confusing setup is due to leftovers from old installations. Ah, you're right, sorry. I had checked this, but with an older CVS checkout on my disk. "cvs up" needed. ;( Ciao -- Frank

Re: [PD] installatation path of help-files

2008-04-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 11:46 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > i cannot speak for hans, of course, but personally i do also install all > > help-files into 5.reference//, so that they are visible and > > accessible by pd's help-browser. it seemed to me an easy way to

Re: [PD] no help file for Gem objects

2008-04-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > afaik, your confusing setup is due to leftovers from old installations. > a fresh "make install" of Gem should do: > - create extra/Gem/ > - put Gem.pd_linux into extra/Gem/ > - put all help-files (with "-help" suffix) into extra/Gem/ > - put all abstractions into extra

Re: [PD] audacity and PD problems with Jack

2008-04-15 Thread errordeveloper
i use Snd, it's wicked! take a while to learn, but there is snd-ls ..which give you more gui .. but i don't need jack really, + i have RT issues .. well, i have been happy with what i got so far. i just record everything with [writesf~] and edit w/ Snd ;] On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 02:16:52PM +0200

Re: [PD] installatation path of help-files

2008-04-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: i cannot speak for hans, of course, but personally i do also install all help-files into 5.reference//, so that they are visible and accessible by pd's help-browser. it seemed to me an easy way to check, what classes are delivered by a certain libr

Re: [PD] no help file for Gem objects

2008-04-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Frank Barknecht wrote: > > I think it's at least a bit annoying that Gem sets a hardcoded > help-path prefix to "Gem" and doesn't use the objnam-help.pd pattern. afair, this has been removed from Gem. > > I would much prefer it if Gem would behave like almost every other > external/abstraction

Re: [PD] no help file for Gem objects

2008-04-15 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > Birgit Gasteiger wrote: > > As I tried to open the path... pd terminated with the following error > > message: > > > > *** stack smashing detected ***: pd terminated > > Pd: signal 6 > > pd_gui: pd process exited > > another

Re: [PD] installatation path of help-files

2008-04-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Roman Haefeli wrote: > > i cannot speak for hans, of course, but personally i do also install all > help-files into 5.reference//, so that they are visible and > accessible by pd's help-browser. it seemed to me an easy way to check, > what classes are delivered by a certain library. i think the h

[PD] installatation path of help-files (was: no help file for Gem objects)

2008-04-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 09:31 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > PS: btw, hans, what is the reason for Pd-extended to install all > help-files into 5.reference/ instead of besides the libraries? i > guess it is just for legacy reasons, but i might be wrong i cannot speak for hans, of course, but

Re: [PD] gem-users list ?

2008-04-15 Thread Olivier Heinry
Le Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:58:46 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > Jamie Bullock wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone (except me) think it would be a good idea to start a > > Gem-users list? An increasing amount of the discussion on pd-list seems > > to be Gem-specific. I use,

Re: [PD] gem-users list ?

2008-04-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Jamie Bullock wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone (except me) think it would be a good idea to start a > Gem-users list? An increasing amount of the discussion on pd-list seems > to be Gem-specific. I use, and enjoy Gem, so this isn't any kind of > anti-Gem thing, I just think it would be convenient from

[PD] gem-users list ?

2008-04-15 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi, Does anyone (except me) think it would be a good idea to start a Gem-users list? An increasing amount of the discussion on pd-list seems to be Gem-specific. I use, and enjoy Gem, so this isn't any kind of anti-Gem thing, I just think it would be convenient from an email filtering POV if there

Re: [PD] no help file for Gem objects

2008-04-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Birgit Gasteiger wrote: > As I tried to open the path... pd terminated with the following error > message: > > *** stack smashing detected ***: pd terminated > Pd: signal 6 > pd_gui: pd process exited another solution is to restructure your filesystem a bit. create a extra/Gem/ folder in your P

Re: [PD] no help file for Gem objects

2008-04-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Birgit Gasteiger wrote: > As I tried to open the path... pd terminated with the following error i think this is a know pdextended bug. you can add more information to the issue-tracker: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1936531&group_id=55736&atid=478070 fmgasdr IOhannes

Re: [PD] no help file for Gem objects

2008-04-15 Thread Birgit Gasteiger
As I tried to open the path... pd terminated with the following error message: *** stack smashing detected ***: pd terminated Pd: signal 6 pd_gui: pd process exited Best, Birgit Jaime Oliver schrieb: > I always get that problem on OSX, the files should be in gem/Gem/help, i > think if you add