Re: [PD] sending image from of / libpd

2011-08-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com; PD List pd-list@iem.at Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 1:19 AM Subject: Re: [PD] sending image from of / libpd On Sun, 28 Aug 2011, Jonathan

[PD] gem 0.93 and frei0r (was Re: [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0)

2011-08-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-08-26 18:30, Pagano, Patrick wrote: FreiOr SUPPORT!!! Massive WIN I assume that this is for linux/OSX? Or do you have frei0r working on WIN? there is nothing linux/osx specific in the code on Gem's side, and the dylib code is abstracted

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] tkwidgets

2011-08-29 Thread Joe White
Haha, I'll pretend I understand this Andy :) On 28 August 2011 18:29, Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk wrote: I think reasonable suggestions might be welcome. Some say the sulphur fumes, screams and maniacal laughter emanating from Martin and Joe's subterranean laboratory beneath the

Re: [PD] receiving messages in [expr] ?

2011-08-29 Thread Thomas Grill
Am 27.08.2011 um 21:59 schrieb Mathieu Bouchard: Ears don't know what a wave function collapse is, and wouldn't differentiate quantum noise from a linear-congruential scrambler such as pd's [noise~]. i don't think that quantum noise is necessarily white in the audible domain. gr~~~

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.1

2011-08-29 Thread Patrice Colet
- Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca a écrit : Otherwise, it would mean that GEM users who want to try GF have to reinstall a different GEM than default just to have something that runs with MinGW. If Gem can be compiled with mingw, it can be done by pd-extended build system on

Re: [PD] Dynamic patching with audio - review

2011-08-29 Thread abel . jerome
Hi all, My last mail was broken by the mailing list engine. The prose in a file if you please ;-): http://abel.jerome.free.fr/pd/dynamic-patching/reviews/DynamicPatching_review-3.txt Jérôme (with accents) - Mail original - De: abel jerome abel.jer...@free.fr À: pd-list@iem.at Envoyé:

Re: [PD] Mac OSX 10.7 resume states crash Pd-extended

2011-08-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Oops, right, what are the errors you are getting? Please post the error log. If its about not loading objects, try removing your preferences. .hc On Aug 28, 2011, at 5:30 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote: I tested this with Pd-Vanilla 0.43-0 and there are no problems. The patch windows come up

Re: [PD] Pd-gui bug (was Re: search plugin update)

2011-08-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Interesting test results. It would be quite nice if Tcl/Tk handled the window placement for non-PatchWindows. Part of the problem there is that the .pd fileformat stores the location of the windows, and therefore Pd explicitly places the windows using those coordinates. That might be

Re: [PD] Mac OSX 10.7 resume states crash Pd-extended

2011-08-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
How about Pd-extended 0.43? Hey Dan, this would make a great FAQ entry: http://puredata.info/docs/faq .hc On Aug 29, 2011, at 12:04 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote: Nah, you're fine. It's a problem with Pd-extended 0.42.5 ... Pd-0.43.0 Vanilla handles resume fine. :D On Aug 28, 2011, at 10:58 PM,

[PD] Building GEM with MinGW gcc WAS: [PD-announce] gem 0.93.1

2011-08-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 29, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Patrice Colet wrote: - Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca a écrit : Otherwise, it would mean that GEM users who want to try GF have to reinstall a different GEM than default just to have something that runs with MinGW. If Gem can be compiled with mingw,

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0

2011-08-29 Thread cyrille henry
hello, this works for me (but lot's of object did not load on my computer). but the auto 1 message to pix film crash 0.93.0, but should work on 0.93.1 Cyrille Le 29/08/2011 17:05, bra...@subnet.at a écrit : thank you so much but :-((...attached patch _maincamera3 worked with ver:

[PD] Pd on Android

2011-08-29 Thread Pierre Massat
Hi all, I plan on buying my very first smartphone in the next few days. I want a phone running Android since it appears to be the best platform to run Pd. I m just not quite sure about the way Pd can be used with a smartphone. Can we run Pd-extended, or just use the patches, or is it just some

Re: [PD] Building GEM with MinGW gcc WAS: [PD-announce] gem 0.93.1

2011-08-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-08-29 17:10, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: incrementally. So first just the most basic, stripped down version of Gem building, then try adding more features as things get working. luckily, all the complicated dependency stuff is no

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.1

2011-08-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-08-29 17:00, bra...@subnet.at wrote: hi...thank you...great job but :-(( : attached patch named _maincamera3 did work with ver: 0.91-cvs win7/64. with the new one it crashes pd. even with noloadbang maybe you can find out what

Re: [PD] Building GEM with MinGW gcc WAS: [PD-announce] gem 0.93.1

2011-08-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 29, 2011, at 11:24 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-08-29 17:10, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: incrementally. So first just the most basic, stripped down version of Gem building, then try adding more features as things get

Re: [PD] Pd on Android

2011-08-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Chris McCormick is working on an app for testing latency on Android phones. You could go to your local mobile store, install it on phones, and test them directly. As for Pd-extended, there isn't a Pd-extended package, but most of the libs included in Pd-extended can easily be built for

Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe

2011-08-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 23, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Martin wrote: On 23/08/11 03:29 PM, Stephen Lavelle wrote: I've managed to hurt my ears twice over the past two days when using PD w/ headphones. Even at lowest system volumes, it seems that Terrible Things can happen. Are there any precautions that I can

Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe

2011-08-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Two good rules: - if there is any doubt, use speakers set on low volume - keep your figure on the mute button when messing around with unknowns I've perfected the rip the headphones out reflex, I can get the headphones out of my ears in well under a second without even thinking about it

Re: [PD] arrowheads on cords plugin

2011-08-29 Thread Pedro Lopes
Cool plugin. Although I am experiencing a weird bug: - it only draws the arrows ONCE by any event the pd window is redrawn - events that I tried and worked (thus the arrows magically appear): save patch, move patch window. change desktop. - events that do not do nothing: moving stuff inside

Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe

2011-08-29 Thread Martin Peach
On 2011-08-29 11:52, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Aug 23, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Martin wrote: On 23/08/11 03:29 PM, Stephen Lavelle wrote: I've managed to hurt my ears twice over the past two days when using PD w/ headphones. Even at lowest system volumes, it seems that Terrible Things can

Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe

2011-08-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 29, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Martin Peach wrote: On 2011-08-29 11:52, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Aug 23, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Martin wrote: On 23/08/11 03:29 PM, Stephen Lavelle wrote: I've managed to hurt my ears twice over the past two days when using PD w/ headphones. Even at

Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe

2011-08-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Martin martin.pe...@sympatico.ca Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe On Aug 23, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Martin wrote: On 23/08/11 03:29 PM,

Re: [PD] Pd-gui bug (was Re: search plugin update)

2011-08-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca; pd-list List pd-list@iem.at Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 11:05 AM Subject: Re: Pd-gui bug (was Re: [PD] search plugin update)

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.1

2011-08-29 Thread brandt
Zitat von IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-08-29 17:00, bra...@subnet.at wrote: hi...thank you...great job but :-(( : attached patch named _maincamera3 did work with ver: 0.91-cvs win7/64. with the new one it crashes pd. even with

Re: [PD] Pd-gui bug (was Re: search plugin update)

2011-08-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 29, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca; pd-list List pd-list@iem.at Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 11:05 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe

2011-08-29 Thread Ed Kelly
Ah, guilty as charged. Those LPC plugins don't work very well due to discuntinuities in the filter kernel across DSP block boundaries. It has been on my to-do list for a very long time to recode those objects using a different method. One way to guarantee that things will screw up is to

[PD] Update: Extended View Toolkit v0.31

2011-08-29 Thread news
Hello all! we just finished an update for the Extended View Toolkit, that, apart from some bugfixes, features a couple of example-files to get you startet. Those examples cover a couple of scenarios of what the toolkit is capable of. If you have projects, where you use the toolkit, we would

Re: [PD] Pd on Android

2011-08-29 Thread athos bacchiocchi
2011/8/29 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com I plan on buying my very first smartphone in the next few days. I want a phone running Android since it appears to be the best platform to run Pd. I m just not quite sure about the way Pd can be used with a smartphone There's Rjdj, which basically

Re: [PD] 24 bit if files distorted

2011-08-29 Thread Miller Puckette
Well, I just loked at the thread ans it was 3-byte wav files - I wasn't able to find anything wrong. I just tried writing 3-byte aiff files (using soundfiler) of tones at 3 amplitudes and looked/listened from Audacity... couldn't find anything wrong. What machine and OS are you getting the

Re: [PD] sending image from of / libpd

2011-08-29 Thread Peter Brinkmann
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: No, I'm talking about sending a list or typed message with libpd as in: [list 1 2 3 4 ... 32 | [s toC++] The print messaging isn't limited as far as I know. That's right. The only part that imposes a limit on the

Re: [PD] 24 bit if files distorted

2011-08-29 Thread peiman khosravi
Hello, Thanks for looking into this. I should clarify that my problem is not writing into the table but reading an external aif file into it. Here is a link to an example file I am using and the patch. I may be doing something wrong in the patch though.

Re: [PD] arrowheads on cords plugin

2011-08-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yeah, it currently adds the arrowheads only when changing to EditMode. This inspired me to make it possible to more. I just made a patch to make custom cord drawing easy to do in a plugin, its here: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3400300group_id=55736atid=478072 I'll

Re: [PD] sending image from of / libpd

2011-08-29 Thread Dan Wilcox
Whoah whoah hold on. I'm not suggesting to dump the message sending API. I'm only asking for the ability to set the max message size. In most cases 32 is plenty. The *t_atom send func is sufficient for more advanced users. I like the message API and will use it as the default anyway. enohp ym

Re: [PD] arrowheads on cords plugin

2011-08-29 Thread Pedro Lopes
really cool, I feel that this can be a real usability addition to pd. Thanks! On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Yeah, it currently adds the arrowheads only when changing to EditMode. This inspired me to make it possible to more. I just made a patch

Re: [PD] 24 bit if files distorted

2011-08-29 Thread Miller Puckette
Zowee. Total mess! Thanks, now I can probably figure this one out :) cheers Miller On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 08:05:31PM +0100, peiman khosravi wrote: Hello, Thanks for looking into this. I should clarify that my problem is not writing into the table but reading an external aif file into it.

Re: [PD] Pd on Android

2011-08-29 Thread Peter Brinkmann
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 2:09 PM, athos bacchiocchi athos.bacchioc...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/8/29 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com I plan on buying my very first smartphone in the next few days. I want a phone running Android since it appears to be the best platform to run Pd. I m just not

Re: [PD] Announcing CouchPdb development

2011-08-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Sounds interesting, do you have an application in mind? This kind of library is best explained via an interesting example, IMHO. I'll give some feedback inline below: On Aug 26, 2011, at 7:00 PM, Thomas Mayer wrote: Hello, inspired by the great effort of Louis-Philippe with Puredis, I

Re: [PD] Pd on Android

2011-08-29 Thread berenger recoules
I just started to deal with this stuff, and i have still many doubts and difficulties. For example, i still couldn't understand how to download scenes from the rjdj website on my android phone, it seems you just can do this with an iphone. I hope anyone reading this thread has some useful

Re: [PD] sending image from of / libpd

2011-08-29 Thread Peter Brinkmann
Here's the problem that it is supposed to solve: You want to translate a heterogeneous list of objects in Java into an array of type t_atom in C. That's all. Btw, did you look at Pascal Gauthier's library ? Yes, but I think it solves a different problem. In particular, I don't want to

Re: [PD] 24 bit if files distorted

2011-08-29 Thread Miller Puckette
OK, and a big 'duh'... I found and fixed a major piece of stpidity in the code -- it's now up in git: git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data or will apear compiled when I've got a couple of other bugs fixed too. cheers Miller On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at

Re: [PD] Pd on Android

2011-08-29 Thread Dan Wilcox
I have to disagree with you. iOS is a better mobile os for running applications using libpd (aka RjDJ, Nodebeat, etc) since it has a low latency audio api. Android can't give you anything better then 20ms or so. If you want to build a realtime, I'm afraid you have to stick to iOS for now ...

Re: [PD] Pd on Android

2011-08-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Dan, I agree, Android's downfall is the poor audio implementation on the devices. How many have you tested? Can you post that data anywhere? It would be good to start collecting this. I think there are starting to be some Android devices with solid audio performance, so it would be good

Re: [PD] Pd on Android

2011-08-29 Thread michael noble
No one seems to have brought it up, but by far the most accessible way to run pd on android seems to be pddroidparty, also by Chris. It really is an install and run solution, although some slight modification of your pd patches will be necessary. ___

Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe

2011-08-29 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Ed Kelly wrote: The problem is that some objects can generate unstable errors that are orders of magnitude greater than normal audio signals. Then there is a signal that maybe goes between +/- 10 rather than +/- 1, and the volume control makes little difference.

Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe

2011-08-29 Thread Martin Peach
On 2011-08-29 20:04, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Ed Kelly wrote: The problem is that some objects can generate unstable errors that are orders of magnitude greater than normal audio signals. Then there is a signal that maybe goes between +/- 10 rather than +/- 1, and the

Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe

2011-08-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: Ed Kelly morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Ed Kelly wrote:   The problem is that some

Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe

2011-08-29 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: So why not always have [clip~ -1 1] before and/or after your pd master volume control? Dunno, I only ever use OSS and ALSA, which already clip. I have no use for the extra clip. Could the distortion resulting from clipping out of range values

Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe

2011-08-29 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Martin Peach wrote: Yeah, you can actually blow the whole planet to pieces by accidentally multiplying your output by a trillion. Why not... after all, the first blackholes appeared after a division by zero.

Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe

2011-08-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Ed Kelly morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk; PD List pd-list@iem.at Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Jonathan

Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe

2011-08-29 Thread Simon Wise
On 30/08/11 00:31, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Aug 29, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Martin Peach wrote: On 2011-08-29 11:52, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Aug 23, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Martin wrote: On 23/08/11 03:29 PM, Stephen Lavelle wrote: I've managed to hurt my ears twice over the past

Re: [PD] Pd on Android

2011-08-29 Thread Spencer Russell
Seconding the dissatisfaction with real-time audio support on Android in general. I've only recently jumped on the android train (Samsung Droid Charge) and I've noticed that the only audio apps that are usable are of the sequencing / drum machine variety, because they don't depend so much on

Re: [PD] sending image from of / libpd

2011-08-29 Thread Peter Brinkmann
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote: [...] and also, I just read your libpd_read_array and libpd_write_array functions. They don't work in 64-bit mode, in which sizeof(t_word) != sizeof(t_float). Okay, should be fixed now. I just pushed the latest