[PD] hid object does not work for wacom tablet under Linux

2012-02-18 Thread Sylvain Hanneton
Hello, I try to capture the data from my Bamboo touch wacom tablet with the HID object. Everything is ok except the polling of the data. The tablet works fine with X. I can see the data with the xidump command line tool. I think that the input events are provided only to the X event queue an

[PD] nested nqpoly4's

2012-02-18 Thread James Mckernon
Hi all, I've noticed that nesting nqpoly4 doesn't seem to work. i.e., if a patch contains an nqpoly4 of patchX, and patchX contains an nqpoly4 of patchY, then the patchY's will not instantiate. Instead, a bunch of 'connection failed' messages appear in pd's console. Is this a known bug? Any worka

[PD] sigmund list sort

2012-02-18 Thread labyrinthuscochlearis
hi all, what would be a good way to transform sigmund~'s peaks output so that I get a list with peak amplitudes but in the ascending order of the corresponding frequencies? thanks, christian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-mana

Re: [PD] minicomputers for pd + gem (linux)

2012-02-18 Thread Jordi Sala
Thanks a lot!! On 17 February 2012 21:46, Andy Farnell wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 03:12:57PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > > On Feb 17, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > > > > > Le 2012-02-17 à 18:53:00, Jordi Sala a écrit : > > > > > >> Can anyone help me with minic

Re: [PD] nested nqpoly4's

2012-02-18 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Pd somehow checks for abstractions nested inside themselves and refuses to create the inner one(s).   Obviously under normal circumstances such self-nested abstractions would expand to infinity.   Can Pd tell the difference between dynamically instantiated objects and "normal" instantiation?   I

Re: [PD] sigmund list sort

2012-02-18 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-18 à 16:19:00, labyrinthuscochlearis a écrit : what would be a good way to transform sigmund~'s peaks output so that I get a list with peak amplitudes but in the ascending order of the corresponding frequencies? GridFlow's [#grade] gives you a list of item numbers in the order that

[PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-18 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-17 à 15:02:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : First off, the pd-gui side of Pd has been re-written from scratch. When you run Pd, you are actually running two programs: pd is the core engine and pd-gui is the GUI. Since basically all computers now come with multiple CPU cores, thi

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-18 Thread Tuti
I just wish that PD keeps the same philosophy of robustness and simplicity as before. Tuti On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > Le 2012-02-17 à 15:02:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : > >> First off, the pd-gui side of Pd has been re-written from scratch. When >> you run

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] new editing features of Pd-extended 0.43, now in beta!

2012-02-18 Thread João Pais
Hi Hans, great job. But, here in XP, I get audio problems: trying to run with asio (as I always do with 0.42), the audio is very noisy. Audio options are -asio -audioindev 2 -audiooutdev 2 -channels 2 -midiindev 1 -midioutdev 1 -audiobuf 40, and they always worked with previous versions of

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] new editing features of Pd-extended 0.43, now in beta!

2012-02-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You're using the 64-bit Mac OS X version. That won't be a full release in 0.43 since there are some issues porting things away from Carbon that won't be resolved in time. The 64-bit version means you can address huge amounts of memory, but with 0.43 it means you will not have: - Gem - pdp -

Re: [PD] distorted sine on OSX 2.6.8 with firewire interface

2012-02-18 Thread João Pais
some of my students reported problems with pd using external firewire interfaces on MacBooks with OSX 2.6.8. A sine wave from the "test audio and midi" panel is very distorted. We encountered this problem on a consumer ESI Interface and on the RME Fireface. We tried different pd versions (0.43 a

Re: [PD] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 18, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > Le 2012-02-17 à 15:02:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : > >> First off, the pd-gui side of Pd has been re-written from scratch. When you >> run Pd, you are actually running two programs: pd is the core engine and >> pd-gui is the GUI.

Re: [PD] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That is for sure a goal. For the bare minimum, there is always Pd-vanilla. .hc On Feb 18, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Tuti wrote: > I just wish that PD keeps the same philosophy of robustness and > simplicity as before. > Tuti > > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: >> >> >> It

Re: [PD] new editing features of Pd-extended 0.43, now in beta!

2012-02-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
What do you mean by noisy? Can you give more information? I really don't know much about Windows, so I rely on others to tell me how things there should be handled. patco and pob have been doing a lot of valuable work there. .hc On Feb 18, 2012, at 12:13 PM, João Pais wrote: > Hi Hans, >

Re: [PD] new editing features of Pd-extended 0.43, now in beta!

2012-02-18 Thread João Pais
It sounds as if the audio isn't synced to the system card, or something. The sinus in the audio test patch has lots of irregular clicks, almost as if they would be dropouts. What do you mean by noisy? Can you give more information? I really don't know much about Windows, so I rely on ot

Re: [PD] new editing features of Pd-extended 0.43, now in beta!

2012-02-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Please file a bug report with as much detail as possible. .hc On Feb 18, 2012, at 12:41 PM, João Pais wrote: > It sounds as if the audio isn't synced to the system card, or something. The > sinus in the audio test patch has lots of irregular clicks, almost as if they > would be dropouts. > >

Re: [PD] sigmund list sort

2012-02-18 Thread Miller Puckette
I believe there's no good way to do this in pd vanilla. THere should be a 'list sort' but I haven't figured out what would be the best design. (and there's probably already a list sort in Pd extended :) cheers Miller On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 04:19:58PM +0100, labyrinthuscochlearis wrote: > hi all,

Re: [PD] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-18 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-18 à 12:25:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : On Feb 18, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-02-17 à 15:02:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : First off, the pd-gui side of Pd has been re-written from scratch. You don't state which part of the pd-gui has been rewr

Re: [PD] roughness & Pitch-Comonality objects (was Re: number to fractions external?)

2012-02-18 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-14 à 13:54:00, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit : the object code is fine, but I've changed it, just have a look to see if you find something funny. Can you just make a list of all the components that I worked on, to see whether I have all of them. I remember that I didn't have a co

[PD] osc logger

2012-02-18 Thread Jeppi Jeppi
Hi all,I build a [coll]-based OSC logger to save to a file all the OSC activity received from the network (coming from 9 to 12 nodes). Unfortunately it seems it severely interferes with realtime audio in that PD instance when too much OSC is received.I wonder if any of you tried a different app

Re: [PD] sigmund list sort

2012-02-18 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-18 à 09:58:00, Miller Puckette a écrit : I believe there's no good way to do this in pd vanilla. THere should be a 'list sort' but I haven't figured out what would be the best design. (and there's probably already a list sort in Pd extended :) the [list-sort] abstraction uses a hi

[PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-18 Thread Joson Android
Dear List! i love pd-extended-0.43 !! but i cannot add any search path in the prefferences. It will show my new settings right when i make changes but wont save anything. It prints "ripts/../extra/mapping: no such object" in the pd-window. It works in pd-extended-0.42.5 . Should there be a file

Re: [PD] Pd-extended can't see $0-arrays ???

2012-02-18 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-13 à 20:07:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit : Do gpointers only point to scalars?  Because if you _could_ get a pointer to an array-- perhaps using my canvas 'get' method patch-- you could just make all arrays canvas local and forget all this $0- business: AFAIK : Pointers point eithe

Re: [PD] Fwd: [PD-dev] New snapshot of pd-l2ork available -- feedback appreciated

2012-02-18 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-13 à 20:27:00, Patrice Colet a écrit : oupse I've confused both versions, sorry for that, a thousands excuses :") Je pense pas que ça veuille dire ce que tu penses que ça veut dire. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/excuse#Noun __

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] new editing features of Pd-extended 0.43, now in beta!

2012-02-18 Thread Mike Moser-Booth
Hey Hans, I'm on OSX 10.5, and I'm getting this at startup: /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120217.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120217.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loa

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-18 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-12 à 18:10:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : 1) pd completely removed redrawing logic from the c code and migrated it into tcl (which is what you may have done in great part already inside desire-data) The big problems with (1) is that not only you need to copy all the visible

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-18 Thread Scott R. Looney
well, just to add my experience i think i can set search paths correctly, but i would like to add that it seems to be quite difficult to have more than one instance of PD-extended 0.43 on the computer (trying mac OS 10.6.4 w/ 32bit and 64bit builds) making it a bit challenging to check one build's

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-18 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-11 à 13:58:00, Ivica Ico Bukvic a écrit : JUCE is amazing in terms of gui speed-up. Just check out bundled demos that come with the sdk... Half of Gem could be easily reimplemented using JUCE sdk... Looks nice, but the window border of JuceDemo is weird. JuceDemo disables the WM-m

Re: [PD] Pd-extended can't see $0-arrays ???

2012-02-18 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - > From: Mathieu Bouchard > To: Jonathan Wilkes > Cc: Фывапр Олджэвич ; PD-list > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 1:20 PM > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended can't see $0-arrays ??? > > Le 2012-02-13 à 20:07:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit : > >> Do gpointers only point

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-18 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - > From: Mathieu Bouchard > To: Ivica Ico Bukvic > Cc: Jonathan Wilkes ; Hans-Christoph Steiner > ; "pd-list@iem.at List" > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:06 PM > Subject: Re: [PD] GUI and DSP > > Le 2012-02-11 à 13:58:00, Ivica Ico Bukvic a écrit : > >> JUC

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-18 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-18 à 11:29:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit : From what I remember JUCE would by default give you pixel-exact UI down to the window border on every platform, at the expense of native-widgets/dialog-boxes/etc. for that specific OS.  Well, maybe you can get native widgets if you want, but

Re: [PD] hid object does not work for wacom tablet under Linux

2012-02-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
[hid] on Linux relies on a /dev/input/event* devices. If that device does not provide a /dev/input/event* device, then [hid] can't read it. One possibility is that you are using an X driver for that tablet, so not a /dev/input/event* device. .hc On Feb 18, 2012, at 8:34 AM, Sylvain Hanneton

Re: [PD] osc logger

2012-02-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Try using [textfile] for writing to a soundfile. I've had good luck with it. .hc On Feb 18, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Jeppi Jeppi wrote: > Hi all, > I build a [coll]-based OSC logger to save to a file all the OSC activity > received from the network (coming from 9 to 12 nodes). Unfortunately it seems

Re: [PD] new editing features of Pd-extended 0.43, now in beta!

2012-02-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Looks like you downloaded the 64-bit version. See my previous mail in this thread about the 64-bit version. .hc On Feb 18, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Mike Moser-Booth wrote: > Hey Hans, > > I'm on OSX 10.5, and I'm getting this at startup: > > /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120217.app/Contents/R

Re: [PD] new editing features of Pd-extended 0.43, now in beta!

2012-02-18 Thread Ángel Faraldo
1-extended-20120218-macosx105-i386) Ángel Faraldo _ www.angelfaraldo.info On Feb 18, 2012, at 6:41 PM, João Pais wrote: > It sounds as if the audio isn't synced to the system card, or something. The > sinus in the audio test patch has lots of irregular clicks, almost a

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Matju On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 11:54 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > Le 2012-02-17 à 15:02:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : > > > First off, the pd-gui side of Pd has been re-written from scratch. When > > you run Pd, you are actually running two programs: pd is the core engine > > and pd-

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Setting the paths and the libraries to load at start time via the preferences is deprecated in Pd-extended 0.43. The way to do this is: * for the global path, add your libraries, etc. to the built-in user path: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files * for a pat

Re: [PD] new editing features of Pd-extended 0.43, now in beta!

2012-02-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
ig > the delay time is set to in the audio properties. (Tested with 'test > audio/midi patch' @ SR 44100 and 48000 Hz with built-in audio, portaudio). > > also, [cputime] appears not to work. > > (pd-0.43.1-extended-20120218-macosx105-i386) > > Ángel Faraldo

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-18 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-18 à 20:57:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : I can only speak for myself, but I didn't read it as Hans would have taken credit for those efforts. Maybe you didn't read it. :-/ If you're interpreting it too much according to what you think Hans want to say, then you might not be paying at

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-18 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-12 à 13:23:00, Ivica Ico Bukvic a écrit : 1) pd completely removed redrawing logic from the c code and migrated it into tcl (which is what you may have done in great part already inside desire-data) Yes, that was what I did, plus or minus some big bugs and slowdowns. 2) pd used a

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-18 Thread András Murányi
Ugh, I more and more tend to think that this info shall be directly accessible from the affected dialog window. Many people may think their Pd is just broken and they might just have no idea what to do about it. Andras On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 20:59, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > Setting the

Re: [PD] new editing features of Pd-extended 0.43, now in beta!

2012-02-18 Thread Mike Moser-Booth
I downloaded the one named Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx105-i386.dmg. Is that not the right one? .mmb On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > Looks like you downloaded the 64-bit version.  See my previous mail in this > thread about the 64-bit version. > > .hc > > On Feb

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 15:13 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > > an 'anti' attitude > > What's that ? An attitude of trying to make things look bad for no obvious reason. I think that all recent efforts done in Pd and Pd-extended are great and I haven't had the impression that the wrong people to

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] old editing features of Pd-extended 0.43

2012-02-18 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-18 à 21:57:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : An attitude of trying to make things look bad for no obvious reason. What Hans has written at the beginning of the announcement is bad and this is why I « make it look bad ». I think that all recent efforts done in Pd and Pd-extended are gr

Re: [PD] save search path 0.43 OSX

2012-02-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yup, I agree, it should be represented clearly somehow I'm open to suggestions. Its been a long time policy in Pd-extended to avoid using the preferences. Its only recently been enforced. .hc On Feb 18, 2012, at 3:26 PM, András Murányi wrote: > Ugh, I more and more tend to think that this in

Re: [PD] new editing features of Pd-extended 0.43, now in beta!

2012-02-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That's the right one. Here's the problem: >>> Reason: no suitable image found. Did find: >>> /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.5/Tcl: mach-o, but wrong >>> architecture > You have installed a Tcl framework in /Library/Frameworks that seems to be for the wrong architecture.

[PD] vbap speaker position not correct?

2012-02-18 Thread Christoph Kuhr
Hi list, i used the following define_loudspeakers object: define_loudspeakers 3 -45 0 0 4545 090 45145 0180 45-145 0-90 45 but if i make a horizontal circle trajectory, the sound comes from strange positions. its like an inclined ellipse or something... i also trie