[PD] Fwd: Changing vanilla colors

2024-09-28 Thread Miller Puckette
l, can't force people to work in a certain way. On Sep 27, 2024, at 4:52 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: Yeah, I just haven't made time to study the various proposals and figure out what to do about it.  I sort of want to figure out if/how to migrate from Tcl/TK and am resisting putting in

[PD] Re: Changing vanilla colors

2024-09-27 Thread Miller Puckette
I think you can now use any hex color you want - I avoided those in the 90s when a lot of screens were color-mapped but that's a rarity nowadays. cheers Miller On 9/27/24 5:44 AM, Andrew Lyons wrote: Good to see there's a plan in gestation. I may well check out pdnext, but for now, I managed

[PD] Re: Pd for Espressif ESP32 updated, still janky

2024-09-18 Thread Miller Puckette
/ideas/ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://msp.ucs.edu/ideas/__;!!Mih3wA!EsoN2yF9uVd7Sqt0TnM9LOSC-yzyFMLOXhO1uTwtk2TfFUP-UKBDePLfznuuFc0CAc4tJmPr7ew$> gives me 404 Error though... Tim On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 6:56 PM Miller Puckette wrote: I don't know if anyone besides me is

[PD] Re: Pd for Espressif ESP32 updated, still janky

2024-09-17 Thread Miller Puckette
oard. Currently msp.ucs.edu/ideas/ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://msp.ucs.edu/ideas/__;!!Mih3wA!EsoN2yF9uVd7Sqt0TnM9LOSC-yzyFMLOXhO1uTwtk2TfFUP-UKBDePLfznuuFc0CAc4tJmPr7ew$> gives me 404 Error though... Tim On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 6:56 PM Miller Puckette wrote: I don't kn

[PD] Pd for Espressif ESP32 updated, still janky

2024-09-16 Thread Miller Puckette
I don't know if anyone besides me is using Pd on Espressif ESP32 boards but in case it's useful I've updated it to work with Pd 0.51-1.  It's on msp.ucs.edu/ideas/ .  I'm currently getting it to run on generic ESP32 boards (which cost about $10 but you have to hook up your own audio I/O hardwar

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-1 released

2024-09-10 Thread Miller Puckette
To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.55-1 is available from https://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list -- pd-annou...@lists.iem.at To unsubscribe send an e

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-1test1 released

2024-08-31 Thread Miller Puckette
To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.55-1test1 is available from https://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list -- pd-annou...@lists.iem.at To unsubscribe sen

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 released

2024-06-10 Thread Miller Puckette
To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.55-0 is available from https://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.in

Re: [PD] slow startup (was Re: [PD-announce] Pure Data 0.55-0 test 3 released)

2024-06-02 Thread Miller Puckette
Thanks for tracking this down... git-bisect can be tricky and/or time consuming! Miller On 6/2/24 2:19 AM, Benjamin Wesch wrote: was curious now and also tested the current master without this single commit. warning dialogs are all gone and measurements look incredible: Benchmark 1: Pd-0.55.0

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pure Data 0.55-0 test 3 released

2024-06-01 Thread Miller Puckette
his dialog is actually a Sonoma "feature" - but it obviously seems weird that it's not triggered for previous Pd versions. Cheers, Ben On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 11:29 AM Miller Puckette wrote: OK, next thing I want to see is what happens if I recompile Pd 0.54-1... I just created a br

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pure Data 0.55-0 test 3 released

2024-06-01 Thread Miller Puckette
OK, next thing I want to see is what happens if I recompile Pd 0.54-1... I just created a branch to see if I can get the IEM compile chain to grind it out anew. Hopping on an airplane soon but will be about for 1/2 hour or so I think. cheers M On 6/1/24 11:06 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: A

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pure Data 0.55-0 test 3 released

2024-05-31 Thread Miller Puckette
casually with my watch at this point, but after trying multiple times I can say that it's consistently around 8sec for me here. Pd-0.54-1 consistently springs to life in about 1sec for me. I'm happy to run any specific test routines if I can be useful on this. William On Fri, May 31, 2024 at

[PD] [PD-announce] Pure Data 0.55-0 test 3 released

2024-05-31 Thread Miller Puckette
Test 3 is out.  This should resolve all the trouble we've had with test2 except that one tester on MacOS is still finding that Pd 0.55 loads way more slowly than 0.54 - I  don't see that happening on my machine and I don't know how many machines will be affected... it might take a while to trac

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-31 Thread Miller Puckette
Well, I can't reproduce that here - I tried with 0.54-0, 0.55-0test2c. and the latest build from CI: time ~/Desktop/Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -send "pd quit" --> 0.03s user 0.08s system 13% cpu 0.854 total time ~/Applications/Pd-0.54-1.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd  -send "p

Re: [PD] pd64 and externals, deken etc?

2024-05-26 Thread Miller Puckette
I think that's right.  The need for the long-varispeed hack is just that 32-bit floats don't have enough precision to address long tables with fractional indices, 64-bit samples should have enough that the remaining addressing imprecision would be far below the errors introduced in either case

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-16 Thread Miller Puckette
-0.55-0.log: 2.72s so my subjective impression was certainly wrong with 5s - but there's still a noticeable difference. cheers, ben Am Mi., 15. Mai 2024 um 11:51 Uhr schrieb Miller Puckette : Hmm... I'm not getting that on mine. The startup order is indeed different - the GUI doesn'

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-15 Thread Miller Puckette
arting both versions in parallel and i consistently get results quite similar to this: pd-0.54-1.log: 0.99s pd-0.55-0.log: 2.72s so my subjective impression was certainly wrong with 5s - but there's still a noticeable difference. cheers, ben Am Mi., 15. Mai 2024 um 11:51 Uhr schrieb Miller P

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-15 Thread Miller Puckette
ter ~1s. cheers, ben Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 16:26 Uhr schrieb Miller Puckette : To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.55-0 test2 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.55-0 test version released

2024-05-14 Thread Miller Puckette
To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.55-0 test2 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data There was no "test1" - it never made it through the release process.  Also, for Mac users, the app will show up as "Pd-0.55-0test2c" but

Re: [PD] RIP Ed Kelly

2024-03-11 Thread Miller Puckette
I'll miss him! Miller On 3/11/24 03:31, José Luis Santorcuato Tapia wrote: It's a great shame, I remember him with great joy, I still remember the anecdote about the dog. A great guy. :/ José El dom, 10 mar 2024 a las 18:19, Antoine Rousseau () escribió: I'm sad too. I was lucky enough

Re: [PD] "espd" play soundfile

2023-11-25 Thread Miller Puckette
I did something really ugly and stupid... I set the output buffer to 20 msec so that Pd could do long-lasting control operations without interrupting audio. Then I set a metronome to go off at exactly 2048-sample intervals, at each of which I filled an array progressively from a file and sta

Re: [PD] patching feedback loops in parent patch

2023-11-16 Thread Miller Puckette
This is 'correct' behavior, although perhaps not intuitive - sub-patches are considered atomic within their parents.  (I believe this is different from the way Max manages things). cheers Miller On 11/16/23 11:32, Clemens wrote: Hello there, I noticed that pd handles delayed feedback loops

Re: [PD] Current best practice for GPIO pins on Raspberry Pi?

2023-11-08 Thread Miller Puckette
My old 'gpio' object was from 2013. it just issued linux reads and writes to some device.  I don't know if it would still work. I've stuck it on msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/gpio.c in case you get desperate enough to want to revive a 10-year-old bit of system hackery :) Miller On 11/8/23 19:07, Dan Wi

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.54-1 released

2023-10-31 Thread Miller Puckette
To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.54-1 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data This updates Pd to work correctly on MacOS 14.  There are various other bug fixes and documentation updates. cheers Miller

Re: [PD] MPE in Pd Vanilla?

2023-10-26 Thread Miller Puckette
Use another instance of Pd :) On 10/25/23 23:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: I'm finally trying to get a hold of what the deal is with MIDI Polyphonic Expression, which is hard because I have no modern controller that uses it. So one question is does anyone know of a nice free open source s

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.54-1 test 1 relased - fixes problem with newest MAC OS version (14).

2023-10-24 Thread Miller Puckette
To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.54-1 test 1 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data This fixes a problem running 0.54-0 on the newest MAC operating system, plus other bug fixes andfocumentation updates. cheers Miller

Re: [PD] off topic: congrats Miller for the Silver Lion award from La Biennale di Venezia

2023-10-21 Thread Miller Puckette
A big (off-topic) thanks --- both for the congrats, and to all of you who contribute to the Pd community. Miller On 10/21/23 04:17, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: see https://www.labiennale.org/en/music/2023/silver-lion

Re: [PD] Where is "ESPD" (Pd for ESP32)?

2023-08-16 Thread Miller Puckette
http://msp.ucsd.edu/ideas/2022.10.02.espd/ I'm still trying to figure out how to make everything have a clear date but still be versionable and still also have stable URLs. cheers M On 8/16/23 18:46, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Howdy! In the link http://msp.ucsd.edu/ideas/espd/ I used to

Re: [PD] HELP: Pure Data Vanilla v.0.54-0 under Windows 10 22H2 64-bit is not running!

2023-07-08 Thread Miller Puckette
em tells there is already a Pd installation" which impossible! - At the end of the installation, ran Pure Data 0.54.0, but nothing happened! - In the Windows Tasks Manager, Wish is running but no Pd. See the attached zip file summarizing the above. Best, Joseph Gastelais -Message d'or

Re: [PD] HELP: Pure Data Vanilla v.0.54-0 under Windows 10 22H2 64-bit is not running!

2023-07-08 Thread Miller Puckette
Well, first off I'd like to see if you can get back up and running  0.53 OK - then we can confidently try to figure out what happened with 0.54. I think the machine failed to un-install Pd 0.54 because it was running somehow without showing any windows.  The fix for that would be to look in th

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.54-0 released

2023-07-03 Thread Miller Puckette
To Pd announce: Pd version 0.54-0 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data . cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.i

Re: [PD] 0.54-0test2 released

2023-07-03 Thread Miller Puckette
Drat, I already built 0.54-0 before seeing this.  Don't worry, it will make it into 0.54-1 which I'm sure will be needed before long :) On 7/3/23 12:18, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: ok, my last edit to the help files, I worked on [sigmund~] and the changes are important, I really think you sh

[PD] 0.54-0test2 released

2023-07-02 Thread Miller Puckette
I've released 0.54-0 test 2 - I think all the known show-soppers are taken care of... uness something appears broken I'll plan to make the 0.54-0release tomorrow. cheers Miller ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-managem

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.54-0 test 1 released

2023-06-22 Thread Miller Puckette
On 6/22/23 11:50, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: On 22/06/2023 15:41, oliver wrote: It seems to not overwrite the old installation completely, or so it seems to me. I think you runned the *new* installer whithout a prior uninstall (and you overwrited files). The new installer will (in the futur

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.54-0 test 1 released

2023-06-22 Thread Miller Puckette
Are you using the "installer"?  I've been trying it and can't get it to go wrong yet. thanks Miller On 6/22/23 10:57, Kylee Kennedy wrote: Hi Oliver, Good tip on uninstalling 0.53 and then install 0.54. I'm on WIN 10 and noticed my audio interface selections were missing Rearoute channels

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.54-0 test 1 released

2023-06-19 Thread Miller Puckette
To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.54-0test1 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data New features include multi-channel signal connections and updated windows audio.  The new window version uses an audio subsystem that be

Re: [PD] change variables in struct?

2023-05-10 Thread Miller Puckette
I believe that if you change the name of a variable in a "struct" object it will keep all the existing data fields under the new names, even reordering the fields as appropriate.  OTOH I haven't tested this recently, so try it and report back if it fails somehow :) cheers Miller On 5/11/23 0

Re: [PD] hardcoded samplerate in audio example

2023-04-24 Thread Miller Puckette
Yep... these patches date back to before that outlet :) For now it migth suffice to mention that the patches only work on 44k1 soundfiles... and incidentally, thee best one (teh phase vocoder) works fine on 48K files, you just have to adjust the transposition by 147 cents. cheers Miller On

Re: [PD] midi file into [text sequence]?

2023-04-22 Thread Miller Puckette
I've been using the "midi2sco" program to convert MIDI files to csound scores and then either reading the csound straight into a text object (read -c message so end-of-line terminates lists) - and/or writing simple awk scripts to change csound pitch notation back into MIDI pitches and convert t

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-02-04 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
OK, I've uploaded the fix (I hope correctly) to msp.ucsd.edu/software.html, as "0.53-2test1". If that seems to work for everyone I'll rename it "0.53-2". Thanks to all the help from several people (and to the portaudio folks!) Miller On Sat, Feb 04, 2023 at 03:09:21PM -0800, Theron Trowbridge wr

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-01-31 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
but only says "(same as input device)..." And I can't get it to > make any sound. > > When I turn off DSP, it outputs "sys_close_audio: unknown API 4" > > > -Theron > ^ > > > > On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 8:24 PM Miller Puckette wrote: >

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-01-31 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
OK (and thanks to Zmoelnig's CI machine)- here's a version of Pd with the newest stable portaudio - can someone with MacOS 13 test this and see if the problem is still there? http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/pure-data_pa-v19.7.0_Darwin.zip cheers Miller On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 01:28:14PM -08

Re: [PD] DSP crashing - PD freezes.

2023-01-31 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Thanks for the heads-up... Pd is carrying around a rather old version of portaudio - I'm in the middle of trying to update ot the latest stable version, will let you know when I have something you can try... Miller On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 01:46:22PM -0800, Theron Trowbridge wrote: > I have simila

Re: [PD] verbose object search paths not displaying unless debug4?

2023-01-24 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 07:27:59PM +0100, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > On 1/24/23 17:36, Peter P. wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > I am trying to trace the non-loading of an external, iemguts in my case. > > I enabled verbose messages either in the "Path" preferences or by the > > command > > line fl

Re: [PD] Pd download pages are down

2023-01-23 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Hi all - I believe the site went down last night but is back up now. cheers Miller On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 04:41:55PM +0100, Peter P. wrote: > Mario, both currently are working from within my country on the european > continent. > > * mario buoninfante [2023-01-23 16:22]: > > Hi, > > > > Just

[PD] [PD-announce] Max pd~ object test compiled for M1 processors

2023-01-14 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
To Pd announce - The pd~ Max object (which allows you to embed Pd patches in Max/MSP) is now available for the M1 architecture in a test version (0.55test1). You can get it at the usual spot: http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html It _should_ be possible to run it in Max version 8 for either intel o

Re: [PD] Pd0.53-1 for Windows downloads look like Pd0.53-0

2022-12-29 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
OK, I think I have this fixed - you can download them again from the usual site, msp.ucsd.edu. I had made a serious and stupid mistake putting out the 64-bit release (The 32-bit one appears to have been OK). The good news is that the previous files actually were 0.53-0, i.e., the "about pd" panel

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [leapmotion] version 0.2.0 on deken

2022-12-29 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
0, Dan Wilcox wrote: > Ok, that explains a lack of separate tarball. Is the build script in the main > pd repo anywhere? > > Also, if you buy used, get an M1 as a minimum. Don't buy an Intel CPU > otherwise you'll be revisiting this topic in a few years. > &g

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [leapmotion] version 0.2.0 on deken

2022-12-29 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
n any case, is easily installable via > > homebrew. As for the Max SDK, I imagine it probably requires a more recent > > OS than 10.14 or 10.15, so you are best off with a Mac mini M1 or M2 at > > this point. > > > >> On Dec 29, 2022, at 4:49 PM, Miller Puckette

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [leapmotion] version 0.2.0 on deken

2022-12-29 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Trying to compile and test it under Max - so that Max users can enjoy the powerful features of Pd at last :) M On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 04:47:50PM +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote: > Actually, isn't pd~ already compiled for arm64? What am I missing...? > > % file /Applications/Pd-0.53-1.app/Contents/Resou

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [leapmotion] version 0.2.0 on deken

2022-12-28 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
I don't have a recent enough mac to compile for M1. I'm almost ready to hold my nose and buy one. Mac SDK requires cmake which I don't think my department has managed to get running on their machines yet. UGH... M On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 07:49:43PM +0100, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > Am 28. Dez

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [leapmotion] version 0.2.0 on deken

2022-12-27 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
I think Max users can use pd~ to run this. cheers Miller On Sun, Dec 25, 2022 at 06:08:44PM -0500, William Brent wrote: > Hey Joao, > > Chikashi also has a mac build of [leapmotion] available here >

[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.53-1 released

2022-12-13 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.53-1 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data I have access again to my old Mac so I was slao able to bring the macOS7 64- and 32-bit apps up to date. cheers Miller ___

[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.53-1test1 released

2022-12-11 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.53-1test1 available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data . I've already updated the translations since then, so no worries about that (I think). Otherwise, as always, if anything seems broken you ca

Re: [PD] metro and dsp error interacting

2022-11-15 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
I've seen something slightly related, which is that if Pd is running without audio while a machine is in the "suspend" state, then when it wakes up it goes mad trying to catch up with all the elapsed time. But other than that I've not seen Pd's non-audio timing fail the way yuo described. Can

Re: [PD] Pd freezing on Mac Ventura 13.0

2022-10-27 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
I don't have access to any ventura machines but would like to hear more about this. Looking down the portaudio github for the last year I don't see anything about breakage on Ventura. We can count on Apple though to break stuff on every OS release, harrumph. Miller On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 09:34

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.53- released

2022-10-25 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.53-0 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/l

[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.53-0test3 released

2022-10-24 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
OK, Pd 0.53-0test3 ! http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data I think this one has all teh show-stoppers resolved. cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinf

Re: [PD] Pd 0.53-0test2 scrollers

2022-10-23 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 06:53:13PM -0700, Miller Puckette via Pd-list wrote: > Aha it's that fucking VU meter - it's now drawing something that pokes way > north of what's visible. > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 06:50:02PM -0700, Miller Puckette via Pd-list wrote: > >

Re: [PD] Pd 0.53-0test2 scrollers

2022-10-23 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Aha it's that fucking VU meter - it's now drawing something that pokes way north of what's visible. On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 06:50:02PM -0700, Miller Puckette via Pd-list wrote: > Oops, there's more than that. I was wrong - the empty string is always > displayed in 0.52-

Re: [PD] Pd 0.53-0test2 scrollers

2022-10-23 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
pixels to the right and having zero width it protrudes much less. However, restoring a saved toggle from 0.52-2 gives the same old behavior, so even though this is an annoyance (which perhaps we should change back?) it's not the same problem you found. M On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 06:35:05P

Re: [PD] Pd 0.53-0test2 scrollers

2022-10-23 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
I'm getting the same problem on linux... and 0.52-2 is working correctly. It looks like IEM GUIs are displaying empty strings above themselves by default (you can see this by making a new toggle and moving it close to the top of the window). At some point I "fixed" this by suppressing displaying

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.53-0test2 released

2022-10-23 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
:06PM +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > Am 23. Oktober 2022 19:49:10 MESZ schrieb Claude Heiland-Allen > : > > > >On 23/10/2022 15:27, Miller Puckette via Pd-list wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 04:45:00PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > >>> al

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.53-0test2 released

2022-10-23 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
No luck ("bad superblock" style messages for both hfs and hfsplus). I'm not sure how much longer I should spend trying to fix this - I'll be able to get on a Mac Tuesday. thanks M On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 05:23:14PM +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote: > You can mount a dmg (disk image). Something like: > >

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.53-0test2 released

2022-10-23 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
dmg" on my linux box :) thanks M On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 04:45:00PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > all good, but mac binary comes out as "Pd-0.53-0test1-80-g20334410" > > Em sáb., 22 de out. de 2022 às 15:11, Miller Puckette via Pd-announce < > pd-annou

[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.53-0test2 released

2022-10-22 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.53-0test2 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data This contains more bug fixes and documentation updates. Iohannes is still working on an update to teh string translation mechanism; I'm pl

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.53-0test1 released

2022-10-21 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
the changelog > > Thanks, > Giulio > > > Alexandre Torres Porres wrote on 16/10/2022 22:49: > > Em dom., 16 de out. de 2022 às 16:34, Miller Puckette via Pd-announce > > mailto:pd-annou...@lists.iem.at>> escreveu: > > > > To Pd-announce: >

[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.53-0test1 released

2022-10-16 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.53-0test1 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data This is a test version that mostly just fixes bugs in version 0.52, including one serious problem reading soundfiles. cheers Miller ___

Re: [PD] Alternative for array to show curves?

2022-10-09 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Hi Ingo and all - This reminds me of a problem I had 15 or 20 years ago, in which the (ASCII) communications between Pd and the GUI would sometimes choke under heavy volumes - perhaps because teh GUI wasn't reading stuff as fast as Od was trying to spit it out. This would be dependent on the rela

[PD] [OT} faculty job at UCSD, deadline Nov. 1

2022-09-12 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
To Pd list - UCSD is hiring an assistant professor starting next fall. First application deadline is this Nov. 1. Job announcement is here: https://apol-recruit.ucsd.edu/JPF03295 Quoting from the ad: ...broad expertise in computer and electronic music. Possible areas of research specializat

Re: [PD] Using Teensy as midi compliant device

2022-04-18 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
MIDI messages only go out to one device - so to send to device 2 you send to MIDI "channel" 17 to 32. In this case, probably 18 (channel 2 on device number 2). cheers Miller On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 05:28:04PM -0500, Rick Snow wrote: > Hello! > > I am working to use two Teensy devices as midi c

Re: [PD] why units per pixel: -1 by default on subpatches?

2022-04-01 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Because when just making a patch the origin is conventionally top left, not bottom left. So pixels count downward, and if you want "y" to increase as you go up, that's the opposite dorection. Just install a mirror on your desktop and look at your screen downward through it, and you'll see 'y' inc

Re: [PD] consistency check failed: drawline

2022-03-30 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Interesting - that's a bit of code nobody's touched for at least 15 years. The next thing I'd do would be to try to run the project under a memory- integrity-checking system (I use valgrind in linux to do this). If you'd be willing to send me the project (or even better if you can reduce the size

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.52-2 released

2022-03-27 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.52-2 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data . cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info

[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.52-2 test version 1 released

2022-03-25 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.52-2test1 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.i

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52-1 - frozen dsp and gui in ubuntu 20.04

2022-03-22 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
I think the bug report isn't needed, thanks. Meanwhile, yes, it would be appropriate to print a message that the delay got reset, and yes, please do throw it in the develop PR. thanks M On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 12:43:08PM -0300, Bruno Rohde wrote: > As it looks like you guys are working on a quic

Re: [PD] delwrite~ delread4~ name of delay line not settable?

2022-03-14 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
You can use tabsend~ and tabreceive~ (with the same name) - whatever you put into tabsend~ wil come out of the tabreceive~ in the next cloned instance. all best, Miller On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 10:40:23AM +0100, Max wrote: > vd~ is just an alias for delread4~. I don't see a set message for them in

Re: [PD] Different [random] behaviour between macOS & linux?

2022-03-10 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Each time a [random] is created it gets a new (pseudo-random) seed - so if you want total repeatability you should exit and restart Pd. Then you should see exactly the same behavior on linux and on Mac. cheers Miller On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:04:15PM +0100, Yann Seznec wrote: > Hi! Here's thing

Re: [PD] what's the 3rd value of bonk~'s cooked output?

2022-02-27 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
It's teh 'center of gravity' of the bonk spectrum, that is, the centroid of the spectrum considered as a distribution. It's intended to be a sort of 'spectral centroid' along the lines of David Wessel's old idea, but measuring the centroid in 'bonk's might correlate bette with perceived brilliance

Re: [PD] different float accuracy betw. Pd-0.52-1-msw-i386 and Pd-0.52-1-msw-amd64

2022-02-11 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Just to ad tothe confusion ... I'm running tests ("reality check") to see of Pd runs musical pieces the same way on diffrent machines. I found that AMD64 Pd on linux and on MacOS (both 64-bit Intel CPUs) gave slightly different results, off by less thatn a part in a million (10^-6 error). But.. th

Re: [PD] KDE: how to change window color, too dark...

2022-02-03 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Hi Rafael - I don't know why the colors aren't the standard (black and white) that are baked into the Pd code. Pd should be ignoring the theme setting on your desktop. Just for a test, can you see if the colors change when you change your theme? cheers Miller On Tue, Feb 01, 2022 at 09:50:42P

Re: [PD] [sfinfo~]

2022-01-28 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Yep, I can think of other reasons you'd want to know the size of a soundfile in a Pd patch without having to read the whole thing in. cheers M On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 07:32:02PM +, Pierre Alexandre Tremblay wrote: > > I forgot is even simpler (no need for an array) > > Oh la la this is embar

Re: [PD] [sfinfo~]

2022-01-28 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
should be > golden… > > I probably need a weekend. Sorry for the Friday night noise. > > > On 28 Jan 2022, at 19:35, Miller Puckette wrote: > > > > Yep, I can think of other reasons you'd want to know the size of a soundfile > > in a Pd patch without hav

Re: [PD] [sfinfo~]

2022-01-28 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Hi PA - Are you doing stuff that "soundfiler" doesn't? If so, it would be better to add to the soundfiler object than to add a new object with its own name. cheers Miller On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 06:17:21PM +, Pierre Alexandre Tremblay wrote: > Hello again > > So I was missing an object tha

Re: [PD] pd 0.52-0 test 4 released

2022-01-24 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
OK... I've put a link to Dan's version on my download page and will leave it until the CI build is merrily building for ARM . cheers M On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 05:56:40PM +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 1/24/22 17:18, Dan Wilcox wrote: > > There was an issue with building Tk Wish 8.6.12 as

Re: [PD] JACK and blocksize

2022-01-16 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
You can use camomile (github.com/pierreguillot/Camomile) to wrap Pd inside a VST for 64-sample latency back and forth. cheers Miller On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 05:38:34PM +0100, oliver wrote: > > > > As for the need for it, I would personally use it, I tuned my linux > > system to run at 16 samples

Re: [PD] [file]: paths not relative to patch

2022-01-08 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
The confusion is my fault... "." never really meant current working directory, it just means "THIS directory here". I.E., it could mean any #$^#$ thing at all :) M On Sat, Jan 08, 2022 at 10:42:35AM +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote: > I agree with Roman's point that "current working directory" as an idea

[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.52-1 released

2021-12-20 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.52-1 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/l

Re: [PD] pd 0.52-0 test 4 released

2021-12-16 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Iohannes's builds are compiled for both IA64 and arm64. Incidentally, i heard from one informal tester that the arm64 version runs way faster in an M1 machine than the older ia64-only builds. No surprise there, but nice to hear. cheers M On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 05:38:47PM +0100, IOhannes m zmoe

[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.52-0 test 4 released

2021-12-15 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-announce
OK, here's "test 4", which I believe runs on all reasonable platforms and is compatible with the newest Jack: http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

2021-12-14 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Excellent.. I think it's time for test4 :) M On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 09:22:51AM -0500, William Brent wrote: > For me, IOhannes' latest build ( > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__git.iem.at_pd_pure-2Ddata_-2D_jobs_33818_artifacts_file_Pd-2D0.52-2D0test3-2D2-2Dg6ca9539f.dmg&d=Dw

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

2021-12-12 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
> > As explained in previous emails, I don't use jack from Homebrew for my > builds. I use the distribution from jack.org >

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

2021-12-12 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
> > > > seems to run fine on "macOS Sierra - 10.12.6" > > miller: does it also run on "Mac OS X Lion - 10.7"? > (or even "OS X Snow Leopard - 10.6"?) > > gffxyd > IOhannes Nope - Wish 8.6.12 seems to depend on newer Mac features than are on OSX 10.7. But I'm OK with continuing to compile fo

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

2021-12-12 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
akefile "embedded" target which assembles the > >> Wish.app. > >> > >>> On Dec 11, 2021, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at > >>> <mailto:pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at> wrote: > >>>

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

2021-12-10 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
24PM -0800, Miller Puckette via Pd-list wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 09:20:09PM +0100, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > > On 12/10/21 21:11, Miller Puckette via Pd-list wrote: > > > Looks like I'm not going to be able to get 8.6.12 running on my MACOS 10.7 > > > machin

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

2021-12-10 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 09:20:09PM +0100, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > On 12/10/21 21:11, Miller Puckette via Pd-list wrote: > > Looks like I'm not going to be able to get 8.6.12 running on my MACOS 10.7 > > machine (errors compiling the event-management code - exactly the s

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

2021-12-10 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
;m=pnAlCUWZ5MzYYSykucuR5HOfc18ah9O_nmAOsb7LeslXPQGgKENZepMhJVbqppWl&s=L0gd4KUwAdCncnta1-XfFeR7TUL3zGQoc_m8yvN_gmQ&e= > > > > > On Dec 9, 2021, at 8:57 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 11:57:29 -0800 > > Fro

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

2021-12-10 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
So combining from two branches of this same thread: Iohannes writes: afaict the problem actually was that Pd doesn't launch at all. (un)fortunately i am able to reproduce this on a Sierra machine: (and then various trouble)... and from below, Dans' got Pd working with the newest jack but not runn

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

2021-12-09 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
ere/s no reason to, I'd just as soon keep things as they are. cheers M On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 10:52:56PM +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote: > I think that's an old version. It looks like Tk 8.6.10 when it should be the > Tk 8.6.12 as you have in the 0.52-0test3 builds. > > > On

Re: [PD] mc – multichannel extension for Pd

2021-12-09 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
gt;> i'd like to make you aware of an abstraction library i have made > > >>>> because of > > >>>> working more with multi-channel loudspeaker systems lately. > > >>>> > > >>>> Dealing with many parallel signal c

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