Re: Nice review for istD

2003-10-15 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Bill Owens a écrit: > They may have had lens compatibility in the past, but never grip compatibility! Nor remote cable compatibility. ZX-5n, MZ-S and *ist's all 3 use different remote cables. Yes, but the remote cable is the same as the MZ-6/ZX-L/*ist, not a proprietary connector but a simpl

Possible cause of duplicates or other multiples

2003-10-15 Thread Dr E D F Williams
Outlook express reports frequently that there was an error when sending a message. The program tries again later. But my theory is that despite the reported error, the message may already have been sent, and may even go out more than twice. I'll try T-Bird again. I installed it after Graywolf ment

Re: List hiccups

2003-10-15 Thread Dr E D F Williams
I get duplicates too and sometimes a bunch of old messages arrive out of the blue. Lets face it, Internet technology is not perfect. No software ever is and testing can only prove the existence of bugs ... never their absence. Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.

Re: Which zooms for kids?, AF or not?

2003-10-15 Thread Alan Chan
> I would consider the new Tamron SP 28-75/2.8 which is $330 only. Thanks Alan, What do you know about this lens? The Popphoto test results look pretty good. Then why is it so cheap? Have you heard any comments? I have been considering to buy one lately buy haven't yet. From what I have read in

RE: Which 50mm? (was Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8)

2003-10-15 Thread Alan Chan
Hmm, I often find myself using the FA50 1.4 at between 2.5 and 3.5. Do you think the 43 would be a significant step up for me? Don't think so. In fact, I don't think 43 is all that special optically. 31 is biting sharp, and 77 has nice creamy feel and great bokeh. But 43? Well, I just don't see

Re: 5 days to pug deadline

2003-10-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "jmb" Subject: Re: 5 days to pug deadline > What is a pug deadline? We have this little online gallery at http://pug.komkon.org. There are some very talented photographers on this list. The Pentax Users Gallery (PUG) is well worth checking out. William Robb

OT: Ordinary objects?

2003-10-15 Thread Simon King
I stumbled across the following at the site indicated below; "Intentional, even blur can be produced by holding a vibrator in the same hand as your camera...interesting effect, but one I would suggest to do in the studio only!" Anyone tried this? Simon Cited from; Cheap Tricks: Ordinary Objects

Re: correct exposure (how to shoot weddings, etc.)

2003-10-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele
William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Ann Sanfedele" > Subject: Re: correct exposure (how to shoot weddings, etc.) > > > I have to disagree that the most important thing in the wedding is the > wedding > > dress... > > Loving expressions are all very well and good, but if you

Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8

2003-10-15 Thread Fred
> and this time, I had two MXes and a different attitude. Well, two MX's will give anyone a new attitude... Fred

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
Opel is a GM car. Always has been. Peter Alling wrote: > > GM owned enough of ISUZU to dictate design and production decisions to them > in the 70's. > GM at one time imported Opel Kadets from Germany and sold them through > Buick dealerships > of all places. When it became too expensive to get

Re: unsubscribe

2003-10-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
no Tony Gieske wrote: > > Is there any way I can unsubscribe from this list? My emails keep being > returned. > > Tony Gieske > [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PUG?

2003-10-15 Thread Rob Studdert
On 15 Oct 2003 at 23:20, jmb wrote: > Hi, > > Does PUG mean Pentax Users Group? Is PUG email about a specific local > group? http://PUG.komkon.org/ Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/

Re: Metering reflections

2003-10-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
If you spot meter the reflection, you have to base your exposure on the tonal range you want to achieve in the reflection. If you want it to be neutral, in the range of medium red or green -- or in BW 18% gray, go with the meter reading. If you want the reflection to be darker than that, underexpo

Re: 5 days to pug deadline

2003-10-15 Thread jmb
What is a pug deadline? 5 days to pug deadline. So all of you guys with the *ist D better get to work!

PUG?

2003-10-15 Thread jmb
Hi, Does PUG mean Pentax Users Group? Is PUG email about a specific local group? Regards, John

Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8

2003-10-15 Thread Fred
> What's the sharpest aperature for this lens? any opinions? For four samples of the lens design (with almost no variance from sample to sample, which is a little unusual), for simple straight high-contrast resolution, it's f/5.6. See http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/50's/resolutn.htm . Fred

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye & *istD

2003-10-15 Thread frank theriault
Tom, I have no idea what the hell any of that crap means - but then you know that already. It's just words on a paper (or in a computer, or whatever). I don't think it's my legal background, so much as being a philosophy major over 20 years ago - I've forgotten pretty much all of it, but remem

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye & *istD

2003-10-15 Thread Bill Owens
I thought it was Pulitzer material. On second reading it's pure BS after all. :-) Bill - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 10:42 PM Subject: Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye & *istD > Yeah, Bill, > > I'm pull

Re: OT: Camera Canada?

2003-10-15 Thread wendy beard
At 06:51 AM 15/10/2003 -0400, you wrote: Subject: OT: Camera Canada? This shop has some very attractive price. Have anyone purchased from them? Are they reputable? Thx! http://www.cameracanada.com/index.asp I have, a number of times. By sheer coincidence, I happen to have placed an order with the

Old lenses, *istD, and the Pentax Mad Scientists

2003-10-15 Thread John Dallman
Setting aside the rights and wrongs of Pentax's decisions, can we agree that the idea of getting K/M lenses working better on the *istD is interesting? The routes would seem to be: A) Waiting for Pentax to bring out a body with a non-crippled mount. I doubt that this is going to happen. The *is

Re: Take this simple test

2003-10-15 Thread Herb Chong
the Nikon RAW software does things that the camera doesn't do that matter to me. enhanced noise reduction on long exposures, finer control over white balance, and antivignetting knowing the falloff from the center. Herb - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "penta

Re: Fall colors

2003-10-15 Thread graywolf
Yellow, orange, and red. The orange colors often have a grin carved in them. Soon it will be All Hallows Eve, or Samhain if you are one of the axe people. Even in Dallas you will see orange Jack-O-Lanterns about (grin). Larry Levy wrote: What are Fall colors? Larry in Dallas -- graywolf htt

RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-15 Thread Rob Studdert
On 15 Oct 2003 at 17:18, Rob Brigham wrote: > RAW seems to allow for an extra 3 stops in either > direction which is actually pretty massive. Relative to what contrast setting when saving jpeg in camera? Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Photo manipulation software recommendations? (long)

2003-10-15 Thread Herb Chong
for just plain rotation, the Pentax software should do it for you with no losses at all. if you want to do a little bit more, then you may want to consider Ulead Photo Explorer. it is one of many programs to look at thumbnails and do simple manipulations on images. IMatch has its own quirks and is

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye & *istD

2003-10-15 Thread graywolf
Now, I believe you used to be a lawyer, Frank. You have a great future as an art critic as well. Bill also does test shots out of the back of the house. They tend to have a surrealistic cubist look to them. He always says, "this is just a test shot". So when he shows what to me is just a test shot

Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!

2003-10-15 Thread graywolf
(chuckle) I had to run numbers through the calculator dozens of times to come to that understanding. Mishka looks at the formula and says, "Aha, that means...". How come such a sharp youngster can not spell my name... (grin)? Mike Ignatiev wrote: listen to greywolf -- he knows really, all that

Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!

2003-10-15 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:14:54 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hmmm, this means it's hard to know ahead of time which lenses will work > well with a DSLR. Because film may not indicate real chromatic aberration > problems. Right? Well, partly because it's harder for the human visual system to detec

Re: NYC landscapes (was: feature for digital camera)

2003-10-15 Thread Kenneth Waller
Obviously you are not familiar with the state. Try looking in the north west part or the southern tip or the southern shore. It's true N.J. has an industrial rap, but don't judge the entire state by that. Try it you might like it. Michigan Kenneth Waller who use to live in N.J. - Original Mes

Re: NYC landscapes (was: feature for digital camera)

2003-10-15 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:58:55 -0400, Bill Owens wrote: > And, IMNSHO, the same can be said of the Virginia-Maryland border 8-) To paraphrase George Carlin, Just watch out for that Manson-Nixon line as you go north from VA/MD. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by

Re: Pentax Promo in Canada

2003-10-15 Thread frank theriault
hi, Chris, And, of course, it was, as you correctly point out, the FA 24-90. I'm guessing that the FA 24-80 doesn't exist... What the hell, you all knew what I meant, even if I didn't. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is t

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye & *istD

2003-10-15 Thread frank theriault
I see an absolutely stunning portrayal of the utterly bland emptiness of Suburbia. Not a single human in sight. No sidewalks. Only a single car, directly across the street, indicates the fact that humans may reside here. Huge lawns separate the inhabitants from the street, and therefore from

Re: 5 days to pug deadline

2003-10-15 Thread Bill Owens
I'll be pushing it. Going camping in the mountains, but won't return until late Sunday. Bill - Original Message - From: "Chris Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:23 PM Subject: 5 days to pug deadline > > 5 days to pug deadline. So a

Re: Pentax Promo in Canada

2003-10-15 Thread Chris Murray
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, frank theriault wrote: > Hi, All, > > Do you want the long story? No? I don't blame you. > > I was at the photo lab today (sold a coupla prints - woo hoo!), and whilst > waiting for Robert to finish with another customer, I picked up a Canadian > mag called Photo Life (o

Re: Pulling a Cotty-was:Re: FS: Super Takumar 35/3.5

2003-10-15 Thread frank theriault
I'll bring my own bunny ears, thanks... -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'll bring along the bunny ears. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Pla

Re: Fall colors

2003-10-15 Thread Bob Blakely
You should have been in Quebec. I recommend Lake Memphremagog, along the east shore of Fitz(sp) Bay looking to the west. Regards, Bob... "Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and

Re: Pulling a Cotty-was:Re: FS: Super Takumar 35/3.5

2003-10-15 Thread frank theriault
Hey, Mishka, You've convinced me. Vodka it is... cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Mike Ignatiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> frank, that is wy too complicated. if you want simple ye

Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!

2003-10-15 Thread alex wetmore
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hmmm, this means it's hard to know ahead of time which lenses will > work well with a DSLR. Because film may not indicate real chromatic > aberration problems. Right? It sounds like it might be time for a Pentax *ist D lens gallery. alex

Pentax Promo in Canada

2003-10-15 Thread frank theriault
Hi, All, Do you want the long story? No? I don't blame you. I was at the photo lab today (sold a coupla prints - woo hoo!), and whilst waiting for Robert to finish with another customer, I picked up a Canadian mag called Photo Life (or some such name). First thing I notice is a full page ad

Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-15 Thread Cotty
Waddya expect with all those bicycles! >This proves the Netherlands is much much older, since it is all worn >down to less then 50 meters. > > >On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 18:12, Dag T wrote: >> onsdag, 15. oktober 2003, kl. 02:23, graywolf: >> >> > Did you guys know that they claim the Appalachians a

Re: NYC landscapes

2003-10-15 Thread Bob Blakely
Cityscape. Regards, Bob... "Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?" -Martin Luther From: "Larry Levy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

5 days to pug deadline

2003-10-15 Thread Chris Murray
5 days to pug deadline. So all of you guys with the *ist D better get to work! - Chris -- Chris Murray /"\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN http://apeman.org/ XAGAINST HTML MAIL Cell: 604.861.8307 / \/ Please avo

Re: Nice review for istD

2003-10-15 Thread Bill Owens
> They may have had lens > compatibility in the past, but never grip compatibility! > Nor remote cable compatibility. ZX-5n, MZ-S and *ist's all 3 use different remote cables. Bill

Re: List hiccups

2003-10-15 Thread Feroze Kistan
The only person I get duplicates from is Doc Williams Feroze - Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:11 PM Subject: List hiccups > Hi! > > PDML has a flu. It seems to re-send some (all) of the me

Re: correct exposure

2003-10-15 Thread Feroze Kistan
Sorry Cotty, I meant to say his still using a medium format camera...he thinks 35mm are toys. Granted his viewing screen is bigger than my neg, so I kept my big mouth wisely shut... HTH :)) Feroze - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: correct exposure

2003-10-15 Thread Feroze Kistan
Not too far ahead of time, I usually start at the brides house while she's getting dressed, they always late so I have enough time to set up a backdrop and a few lights. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 4:51 PM Subjec

Re: correct exposure

2003-10-15 Thread Feroze Kistan
I'm not degrading your technique or OP, but you have to admit that there is no technique that cannot stand a bit of improvement or approaching things from a different point of view. Your wedding clients need training and guidance, because in most cases this is there first time. It is up to you as t

Re: correct exposure (how to shoot weddings, etc.)

2003-10-15 Thread Feroze Kistan
> Hi Ann, > I have to disagree that the most important thing in the wedding is the wedding > dress... Average price for a white wedding dress starts at about ZAR15 000 (about U$D2500) for a christian/muslim wedding, a hindu wedding sarie can costs as little as that to about 3 times as much. An I

Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!

2003-10-15 Thread Eactivist
On 15 Oct 2003 at 9:16, Doug Franklin wrote: > 2) the difference between the "random" distribution of film grains > compared to the rigidly defined distribution of sensor pixels means > that the aberration artifacts get distributed around randomly on film > and therefore diffused, but end up as li

Re: *ist D another review

2003-10-15 Thread frank theriault
Cool! I must say, it was a long wait, but the magazine reviews, along with user reports by list members, seem to indicate that at least Pentax got it mostly right. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenh

Re: Fall colors

2003-10-15 Thread frank theriault
After yesterday's fall in the rain (damn pedestrians getting in the way), I can tell you that Fall Colours start with red, then by later that evening, deep blues and blacks. Within a week it should be lighter blue, with a bit of light green and even yellow. Gotta bruise on my hip the size of a

RE: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-15 Thread Rob Brigham
LOL! Now if it turned it into a 300 then that would be fine... Out of interest, who uses focal lengths between 110 and 190 regularly? And what for? I find them too tight for portraits (unless I was outside I guuess, where I could back up farther) and not long enough to be a useful telephoto. Sam

RE: Which 50mm? (was Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8)

2003-10-15 Thread Rob Brigham
Hmm, I often find myself using the FA50 1.4 at between 2.5 and 3.5. Do you think the 43 would be a significant step up for me? > -Original Message- > From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15 October 2003 22:01 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Which 50mm? (was Re: Pancak

RE: Where was the first ist-D?

2003-10-15 Thread Rob Brigham
First one I know of was in sunny Brighton - its on the table next to me. There were already one or two sample images on the web from Japanese users before I got it, but I don't know where they got theirs from. > -Original Message- > From: Collin Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sen

RE: Nice review for istD

2003-10-15 Thread Rob Brigham
It may also fit futre DSLRs, but that would break with Pentax usual marketing which has a different grip, remote etc for each model - just to keeps the bucks rolling in I guess! They may have had lens compatibility in the past, but never grip compatibility! If you ask nicely I will show you just

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye & *istD

2003-10-15 Thread Bill Owens
I'm curious about the DA lenses too. Figure the Zenit will serve until they become available. Bill - Original Message - From: "alex wetmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:27 PM Subject: Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye & *istD > On

RE: NYC landscapes

2003-10-15 Thread Amita Guha
> There are some wonderfully isolated areas in the various > parks that are truly unlike NYC. Yep...Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge has five miles of trails if you're into shooting birds. But it's way out towards JFK airport in Queens.

RE: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-15 Thread Alan Chan
The FA50 1.4 is lovely. Had no use for that focal length before, but with the 1.5 factor it(or the 43) was a must. My unhappiness with the 77 has nothing to do with the picture quality, just that my favourite lens now has a focal length that it of little use to me. And who says longer is better?

RE: NYC landscapes (was: feature for digital camera)

2003-10-15 Thread Amita Guha
The town of Chester is like a cute New England town, especially at this time of year. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 3:37 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: NYC landscapes (was: feature for digital camera

Re: Nice review for istD

2003-10-15 Thread Dag T
Me too... DagT På onsdag, 15. oktober 2003, kl. 17:59, skrev Jostein: They give 1:1 crops of all the shots, and I must say I'm more optimistic after seeing this. Thanks for the link, mate. Jostein Quoting Rob Brigham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: http://www.megapixel.net/reviews/pentax-ist/pentaxist-r

Re: Fall colors

2003-10-15 Thread Larry Levy
> The fall colours are pretty dull here in Toronto as well. Apparently, > > they're quite spectacular a couple of hours north of here in the > Muskokas. > > I understand that what makes the colours vibrant and long lasting, is a > > large differential between nightime lows and daytime highs. We h

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye & *istD

2003-10-15 Thread alex wetmore
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Cotty wrote: > On 15/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: > >It's the moon. I posted this to show how much less distortion there is > >using just the center of this lens instead of full frame. > > Right. So, if it's a 16mm, it's acting like a 24mm on the *ist D, no? If > correc

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye & *istD

2003-10-15 Thread Bill Owens
At close range, there's still considerable distortion, but you're right, for things such as distant landscapes it makes a passable 24mm lens. The only other lenses I have that could be considered wide are a 24-50 Sigma and the 28-105 PZ Pentax. On the other end though, my 75-300 Tamron and 500 mi

Re: Fall colors

2003-10-15 Thread Larry Levy
What are Fall colors? Larry in Dallas > Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:47:13 US/Eastern > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Fall colors > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > There were some nice areas when i was driving up to and back from Madawaska > this past wekend,ho

Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-15 Thread Frits Wüthrich
This proves the Netherlands is much much older, since it is all worn down to less then 50 meters. On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 18:12, Dag T wrote: > onsdag, 15. oktober 2003, kl. 02:23, graywolf: > > > Did you guys know that they claim the Appalachians are the oldest > > mountains in the world. They s

Re: Which 50mm? (was Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8)

2003-10-15 Thread Alan Chan
Another query which definitely has been asked before (This should all be archived somewhere shouldn't it..) which AF 50mm's best optically, how much, and roughly how often on Ebay (or where else would I get one..) If you don't need to shoot faster than f4, I recommend 50/1.4 (too soft near wide o

Re: Graveyard

2003-10-15 Thread Pat White
Try some backlighting with one of the flashes (strong silhouettes of headstones, etc.). Could be a lot of fun. Hope we can see the results. Pat White

Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-15 Thread graywolf
Ya, I keep telling the ATA that they need to extend the trail the rest of the way. The say the bridge would cost too much (grin). Dag T wrote: onsdag, 15. oktober 2003, kl. 02:23, graywolf: Did you guys know that they claim the Appalachians are the oldest mountains in the world. They say they

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye & *istD

2003-10-15 Thread Robert Gonzalez
Its hard to tell while I'm on my laptop, but it looks a tad underexposed to me. Cheers, rg Bill Owens wrote: Just went out on the front porch and took this shot with the *istD. Camera on manual, ISO200, f/11, 1/500 per Gossen Digisix meter. http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?a

pictures: Re: FS: black MX

2003-10-15 Thread Tonghang Zhou
See these pics: http://www.cicely.com/trade/black-mx-1.jpg http://www.cicely.com/trade/black-mx-2.jpg http://www.cicely.com/trade/black-mx-3.jpg http://www.cicely.com/trade/black-mx-4.jpg Thanks, Tonghang. On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Tonghang Zhou wrote: > > Any one wants an MX in cool black? It nee

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye & *istD

2003-10-15 Thread Bill Owens
It's the moon. I posted this to show how much less distortion there is using just the center of this lens instead of full frame. Bill - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 1:45 PM Subject: Re: Zeni

Re: correct exposure

2003-10-15 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Wednesday, Oct 15, 2003, at 04:35 America/New_York, Anthony Farr wrote: Studio lighting has been associated with weddings for a very long time. When I shoot a wedding, I lug my Speedotrons along, wishing they weren't so heavy and bulky. :-) --jc

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye & *istD

2003-10-15 Thread Bill Owens
> See why I don't usually do critiques? Yes, because no one can do anything that meets your expectations

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye & *istD

2003-10-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Just went out on the front porch and took this shot with the *istD. > >Camera on manual, ISO200, f/11, 1/500 per Gossen Digisix meter. > >http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/ shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=42 > >Comments? > >Bill Is that a small

Re: *IstD in Italy Maybe Hong Kong

2003-10-15 Thread Gavin Slabbert
To perpetuate this thread, how about anyone with info on a good source for the IstD in Hong Kong. I have to go back to Pentax, I bought a Canon Elan7 and am not happy with it. Gavin Slabbert On 15 Oct 2003, Frits Wüthrich wrote: > Yesterday I asked my photoshop around the corner here in the > Ne

Re: feature for digital camera

2003-10-15 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Tuesday, Oct 14, 2003, at 07:09 America/New_York, arnie wrote: looking forward to when i can get my hands on an ist D - no stores in nyc seem to carry it. whats up with that? As of yesterday, It's in stock at J&R. --jc

Re: Graveyard

2003-10-15 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Wednesday, Oct 15, 2003, at 11:20 America/New_York, Kevin Waterson wrote: I am off to the local graveyard with some models for a night shoot. ...Any tips etc for this sort of thing? You might need a fog/smoke machine. --jc

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye & *istD

2003-10-15 Thread graywolf
Well it looks like a 79k jpeg of a shot across the street. Artistically I rate it a 0. Technically I rate it a 0. Informationally I rate it a 1. However the exposure looks OK, if that was your point. It does make the 16mm fisheye look like a not great 24mm (too much distortion for a rectilinear len

Re: OT: Saturated contrasty negative films..

2003-10-15 Thread Chris Brogden
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Alan Chan wrote: > >Hey just wondering if anyone's got any strong opinions on the most > >saturated/contrasty (either or) 35mm negative film. Any speed.. Like I > >suppose what I'm asking is what's the Velvia of negative film? > > I don't think there is subsititute for RVP, ne

Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye & *istD

2003-10-15 Thread Boris Liberman
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:01:35 -0400 "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just went out on the front porch and took this shot with the *istD. Camera on manual, ISO200, f/11, 1/500 per Gossen Digisix meter. http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=42 Comments?

Re[2]: OT: Saturated contrasty negative films..

2003-10-15 Thread Bruce Dayton
Alin, To that end, it seems that the old Agfa Ultra 50 was not so much different. Quite punchy, but quite grainy for an ISO 50 film. Also I found it to be quite specialized - did not handle contrast very well. Seemed to me it was the film to use when the colors were dull and the lighting was f

Re: Graveyard

2003-10-15 Thread William Johnson
No tips from here, but I'm sure we'd all like to see the results. Especially around October 31 ;-) William in Utah. - Original Message - From: "Kevin Waterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:20 AM Subject: Graveyard > I am off to the

RE: correct exposure

2003-10-15 Thread Butch Black
Previously written: Actually, a stupid jerk is someone who does all his formals with a little ttl flash on camera. You really can, and many really do, use big strobes at weddings, myself included. Back when I was working weddings we would use 400ws Lumedynes. You can do a lot with 2 lights. I ha

Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8

2003-10-15 Thread graywolf
Someplace around 8.0, if I recall correctly. Guess I could dig out the test slides and check, but I tend to be lazy... I think it is after all a classic 2.8 tessar with a slightly wide field which would indicate you need to stop it down at least 3 stops for it to be seriously sharp. Steve Desjardi

Re: Fall colors

2003-10-15 Thread Steve Desjardins
Same problem here. VA is never as spectacular as NE since the temp. difference is not as extreme, but this year had been particularly mild. Drat. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>

Re: List hiccups

2003-10-15 Thread graywolf
That is true, Frank. Some ISPs do not process mail as received but batch process it every so many minutes. That is how it was done back in the days of uucp, but it takes awhile for some of these folks to catch up (grin). How you have your mail client setup has an effect on it. How the interne

Re: gemini macro converter

2003-10-15 Thread Boris Liberman
Gaurav, IMHO, from what I can see on the auction page this TC does not do macro. Since you were interested in macro, I am afraid it would not suit you... HTH. Boris

Where was the first ist-D?

2003-10-15 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
The first LX was available in Sweden, iirc. Who stocked the first ist-D? CRB

Re: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy)

2003-10-15 Thread Bill Owens
If you want a driver for your computer, the printer I'll be bringing is an Epson 925. Bill - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:54 AM Subject: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy) > On 14/10

Re: Graveyard

2003-10-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: > am off to the local graveyard with some models for a night shoot. >I will be taking an electric generator and 2 x 400W studio lights. >I was thinking to use them with 2-3 stops of difference for effect. >Any tips etc for this sort of thing? Carry a silv

Re: Nice review for istD

2003-10-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: http://www.megapixel.net/reviews/pentax-ist/pentaxist-review.html Is it just me or does that grip on the *ist D look like it might also attach to another Pentax DSLR in the future? I wouldn't have said that it looks 100% made to measure. It's probably qu

RE: Old lenses and *ist D

2003-10-15 Thread Chris Brogden
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Bucky wrote: > What interests me is how the hell you clean the sensor when the inevitable > happens and something gets stuck to it We sell things called "sensor swabs." They're supposed to have been packaged in sterile rooms by 21 year old virgins or something like that. Ope

gemini macro converter

2003-10-15 Thread Gaurav Aggarwal
I see an auction for a Gemini macro converter ending in another 1 hour (around 10:30 am pacific time) but don’t if it is any good. Any views? I am looking for a macro converter for less than $40 so this sounded good though based on your recommendations, I am really looking for a Vivitar 2x Macro T

Re: List hiccups

2003-10-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Hi! > >PDML has a flu. It seems to re-send some (all) of the messages from >the most recent past. Anyone else experiencing it? > >Boris >Hi! > >PDML has a flu. It seems to re-send some (all) of the messages from >the most recent past. Anyone else exper

Re: Newbie to list has K1000 questions

2003-10-15 Thread brooksdj
Even though he has gone over towhite plastic lenses and odd lens mounts,his pentax site is still the best going. Lots of info here. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/ Dave > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/14/03 03:28PM >>> > > Hello all > > > > Does this list co

Re: correct exposure

2003-10-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >My "stupid jerk" teacher is 85 by the way, has >been doing this for 60 years, and still focuses a MF camera manually. Hey, did you know that I can focus my manual focus lenses automatically? Sure, I pick up the lens, put my hand on it and I just automat

Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!

2003-10-15 Thread Chris Brogden
Looks like the chromatic aberrations common to p&s digitals: http://www.dpreview.com/learn/Glossary/Optical/Chromatic_Aberrations_01.htm chris On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "mike wilson" > Subject: Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!! > > >

Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-15 Thread Dag T
onsdag, 15. oktober 2003, kl. 02:23, graywolf: Did you guys know that they claim the Appalachians are the oldest mountains in the world. They say they averaged 25,000 feet when they were young and now are worn down to mostly less than 6,000. They say the same about parts of Scotland and Norway,

RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-15 Thread Rob Brigham
That's a good point, I suppose - I could bracket 3 jpgs and still end up using less storage than the single RAW file!! Then again you are bound to find the odd one where you prefer the timing of the one with the worst exposure! I have been looking some more at shots where the contrast between the

Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-15 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 15 Oct 2003, Frits Wüthrich wrote: > Yesterday I asked my photoshop around the corner here in the > Netherlands, and they ask 2199 euro's for it, ridiculous. > I have one on order with Peter from sunny Brighton since 16 Sept, but he > doesn't respond to me when I requested him for a status upda

Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8

2003-10-15 Thread alex wetmore
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Steve Desjardins wrote: > What's the sharpest aperature for this lens? any opinions? http://phred.org/pentax/lensgal/m40_28/m40_28.html has tests from this lens if you want to judge for yourself. It looks pretty soft at f2.8, better at f4, and pretty good at f5.6 and f8. Th

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