Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

2004-12-09 Thread mike.wilson
Willaim Robb wrote: I don't understand why you are trying to make a connection between music CDs and software. Other than that they are both on little plastic discs, they don't really have much in common. I helped "develop" a music CD a couple of years ago. It was a buddy of mine recording a bud

Re: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

2004-12-09 Thread m.9.wilson
> > From: "Larry Levy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > If you think you paid too much money for dodgy software, demand your money > back and return the product. Just because Ford Explorers were prone to > rollover when Firestones were mounted (certainly worse than the dodgy > software you're refering t

Re: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

2004-12-09 Thread m.9.wilson
> > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2004/12/09 Thu AM 01:26:04 GMT > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement > > > - Original Message - > From: "mike wilson" > Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement > > > > John Francis wrote: > > > >

Re: Re: Digital grain (was Re: PESO My type of photographer)

2004-12-09 Thread m.9.wilson
> > From: Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2004/12/09 Thu AM 12:22:33 GMT > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Digital grain (was Re: PESO My type of photographer) > > Hi, > > > Examples: > > >> proper non-gender specific pronoun > > > Purists always hyphenate correctly. If you're a purist

Re: Flash Brackets & 5P Flashes

2004-12-09 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Feroze wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Patrick Genovese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:36 PM > Subject: Flash Brackets & 5P Flashes > > > I'm looking for a decent and hopefully not ridiculously expensive flas

Re: Here's an idea for the holidays ...

2004-12-09 Thread m.9.wilson
> > From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This suggestion was posted on another list. The idea seems like a good > one. The key is doing it in your own neighborhood. What say ye? > > Just for kicks one night over this next week lets all try to take a > walk around our neighborhoods and

Re: ist D/DA 16-45 rebate, did anyone get theirs?

2004-12-09 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Cotty wrote: > On 8/12/04, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >I asked for the "Rebate Lady". > > Tell her Cotty says hi ;-) Down Cotty, down! She is the lady that *handles* the rebates, not the rebate itself. Kostas

Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

2004-12-09 Thread mike.wilson
Hi, > > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > - Original Message - > From: "mike wilson" > Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement > > > No I'm not. My argument was based on an orchestra, that has years > > of training and months of development costs for a performace. The > > hi

Re: Digital grain (was Re: PESO My type of photographer)

2004-12-09 Thread Frantisek
Wednesday, December 8, 2004, 5:41:48 PM, Graywolf wrote: G> No, no, a purist drinks his coffee black, or maybe with a we dram o' wiskey in G> it. Milk, cream, sugar, those are for infants. GRIN "Coffee should be black as hell; strong as death, and sweet as love" (attrib.: turkish?) Good light!

Re: OT: Digital Lith (was Re: "Fake" vs "Real" effects)

2004-12-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Great images. I bookmarked that Marco Pauck page for future reference. Sounds like fun. Paul On Dec 9, 2004, at 12:06 AM, Mark Erickson wrote: All, Well, here they are. These are architectural shots taken of a community center a couple of blocks from my house in East Sacramento. I'm going for

Is Pentax Broken?

2004-12-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
What's wrong with Pentax? Don't they have a marketing department? MacWorld just published a big digital photography issue, where they cover all matter of digital cameras from P&S to SLR. All the players are mentioned -- except Pentax. Not a word about the P brand. I've also noticed that the *i

Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

2004-12-09 Thread Mishka
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 01:41:07 -0500 (EST), John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mishka mused: > > > > it actually *is* on commercial basis. does red hat ring a bell, just to > > name one > > (but not, by far, the only)? > > I'm well aware of Red Hat, Debian, etc. But they're not selling the

Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

2004-12-09 Thread mike.wilson
Just one final comment, meant to lighten things up a bit. If copying software is theft, what is this? http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=848531 CITY OF SUNDERLAND COLLEGE DISCLAIMER Confidentiality: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use

PAW: Christmas hotdog

2004-12-09 Thread Frantisek
Hi, late entry again, but I was shooting out of Prague for the most time since the last paw. Here it is. As you can see, the advent shopping season is going on strong. This was taken in our nicest middle-ages square (which is full of ugly kitch booths and tourists and makes you puke

Re: PAW: Christmas hotdog

2004-12-09 Thread m.9.wilson
> > From: Frantisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2004/12/09 Thu PM 12:10:55 GMT > To: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: PAW: Christmas hotdog > > Hi, >late entry again, but I was shooting out of Prague for the most >time since the last paw. > >Here it is. As you can see, the advent

Re: PAW: Christmas hotdog

2004-12-09 Thread m.9.wilson
> > From: Frantisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2004/12/09 Thu PM 12:10:55 GMT > To: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: PAW: Christmas hotdog > > Hi, >late entry again, but I was shooting out of Prague for the most >time since the last paw. > >Here it is. As you can see, the advent

Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

2004-12-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "mike.wilson" Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement Just one final comment, meant to lighten things up a bit. If copying software is theft, what is this? http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=848531 Copyright infringement? William Robb

Re: Re[2]: Happy Hannukah

2004-12-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" Subject: Re[2]: Happy Hannukah Being Jewish means belonging to certain nationality, hmmm. I know several Canadian citizens who are Jewish. Are they misunderstanding? William Robb

Re: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

2004-12-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Subject: Re: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement Mike, are you presuming that yer basic orchestra (or even a very good one) has the same dollar value of input costs compared to a large crew of software engineers playing with really expensive computers? When you

Re: Is Pentax Broken?

2004-12-09 Thread Alan Chan
--- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's wrong with Pentax? Don't they have a marketing department? > MacWorld just published a big digital photography issue, where they > cover all matter of digital cameras from P&S to SLR. All the players > are mentioned -- except Pentax. Not a

Re: PAW: Christmas hotdog

2004-12-09 Thread Frantisek
So, now that you know what it is, how do you like or dislike the photograph Mike ;-) ? Good light! fra

Re: PAW: Christmas hotdog

2004-12-09 Thread Frantisek
m9wnc> Through a sheet of perspex/glass or a fine net over the stalls? No telling. Photographer's secret ;-) No, really, it's exactly that. The stall had a glass window/door which was held up during the hours it was open. What's more, it's all part of a big staircase viewing platform erected in

RE: ist D/DA 16-45 rebate, did anyone get theirs?

2004-12-09 Thread Don Sanderson
I told her Cotty. Strange thing though, then the line went dead, almost like, she hung up on me?? Cotty... Have you been bad again? Don ;-) > -Original Message- > From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 1:28 AM > To: pentax list > Subject: Re

POTA (the B&W developer, NOT another obscure abbrev.)

2004-12-09 Thread Frantisek
Hi, you got a bit scared by the abbrev., weren't you ;-) It's a name of extremely low-contrast developer for use with TechPan or other document-type films. Basically teeny bit of phenidone plus sodium sulfite. I am asking if anybody tried it, and what the results were. Is it pos

Re: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

2004-12-09 Thread m.9.wilson
> > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2004/12/09 Thu PM 12:24:40 GMT > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement > > > - Original Message - > From: "mike.wilson" > Subject: Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement > > > > Just one final comment, me

Re: Is Pentax Broken?

2004-12-09 Thread brooksdj
> What's wrong with Pentax? Don't they have a marketing department? And this store was selling quite a > few *istDs when it was first released. They apparently have dropped it. > What's wrong with Pentax? As is Henry's and its suburban stores. I went

Re: Is something wrong with my CF card?

2004-12-09 Thread brooksdj
I get that when i move a card from the D1 to the D2H or visa versa. I format in camera and all is well. If that does not work,..? Dave > I have a 512 MB SanDisk extreme II (IIRC) that only > reads 39 photos when it is empty (with the ist D set > to

Re: Re: PAW: Christmas hotdog

2004-12-09 Thread m.9.wilson
> > From: Frantisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2004/12/09 Thu PM 12:44:17 GMT > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: PAW: Christmas hotdog > > > m9wnc> Through a sheet of perspex/glass or a fine net over the stalls? > > No telling. Photographer's secret ;-) > > No, real

Re: Re: PAW: Christmas hotdog

2004-12-09 Thread m.9.wilson
> > From: Frantisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2004/12/09 Thu PM 12:44:49 GMT > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: PAW: Christmas hotdog > > So, now that you know what it is, how do you like or dislike the > photograph Mike ;-) ? Observer's secret 8- I think I do l

Re: "Fake" vs "Real" effects

2004-12-09 Thread Frantisek
SB> a photo on the now defunct 2475 Recording Film developed with something SB> like Acufine or Diafine, maybe even Rodinal, given rough, aggressive Oh, wasn't that the "our film has very little grain, only one grain per frame" film ;-) ? Good light! fra

Re: Paw: Fall colours #2

2004-12-09 Thread brooksdj
Shel,Frank. I forgot to add a to the end of my sentence. I apologize. Its time i need the most of i think. Between work, my equine voluntering and trying to get out and do personal photo's,i tend to "sneak in" a scan and rush it. I realize my shortcomings in this area,and have all the PDML and

Re: Is Pentax Broken?

2004-12-09 Thread brooksdj
> > What's wrong with Pentax? Don't they have a > marketing department? I forgot to add this. Recently, in our local paper, Pentax had a 4 page colour flyer,about half the size of a tabloid paper,for all their offe

Re: PAW: Christmas hotdog

2004-12-09 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The statue is still there, and behind it a fine museum, with a wonderful geology exhibit and the hall with a beautiful wood parquet floor and many statues and busts of Czech heros. Frantisek wrote: simply a touristic attraction and commercial space which offers only kitch and snakeoil illusions

Tablets

2004-12-09 Thread Frantisek
Hi, the recent replies to Shel's retouching thread made me ask this. In your actuall experience, is the small 4x6" tablet usable for image editing (mainly, for burning/dodging where using a mouse is pita)? Or is it too small? Does it help to zoom the image? It seems the area is pr

Re: Is Pentax Broken?

2004-12-09 Thread Pentxuser
As Dave said Blacks had body only forf 1699.00 Cdn. I got mine yesterday... maybe just in time.. Vic

Re: Tablets

2004-12-09 Thread Doug Franklin
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:25:31 +0100, Frantisek wrote: > In your actuall experience, is the small 4x6" tablet usable for > image editing (mainly, for burning/dodging where using a mouse > is pita)? Or is it too small? Does it help to zoom the image? It works fine for me, but I write small. It's a l

The official PDMLer Christmas shopping list

2004-12-09 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
1. A*85 2. A15 3. LX 4. either istD or istDS 5. film 6. memory modules 7. higher credit card limit 8. Honey, where are you going? Sincerely, C. Brendemuehl Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net

Re: The official PDMLer Christmas shopping list

2004-12-09 Thread Thibs
Mine'd be more like: 1. MZ-S 2. IST-D(s) 3. Any 85 to 105mm lens OK fir portrait 4. One or two Metz 40MZ so I can do wireless TTL with the 40MZ I already own. 5. MX + MotorDrive 6. a good 28mm and 200mm 7. Space to put my home made B&W lab 8. Money to afford everything above =D BTW The SMC Takuma

Re: Is Pentax Broken?

2004-12-09 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Of course it is. Or we wouldn't be having this interaction. They're going to be doing short product runs for a long time. They have to. They're too small: It's a 2nd-tier company, at least in this market segment. Can things change? Certainly. Canon used to be 2nd-tier in both consumer and pr

Re: The official PDMLer Christmas shopping list

2004-12-09 Thread brooksdj
Here is mine:-) 1. 300 f 4 for the 6x7 2. 55 or 75 for the 6x7 3. E100VS in 35 and 6x7 4. either istD or istDS 5. Only one credit card 6. Whats that,all my money is being spent on a new bathroom.:-( Dave > 1. A*85 > 2. A15 > 3. LX > 4. either istD or istDS

Re: The official PDMLer Christmas shopping list

2004-12-09 Thread Mat Maessen
1. Pentax 6x7 or 67 body with mirror lockup 2. 90/2.8 LS lens 3. Tripod/head big enough to hold my monorail view camera (secondary use on above) 4. *istD (hey, why not) 5. Couple of 1G CF cards for #4 6. House with a basement that can be made into a darkroom 7. Cheap darkroom equipment :-) 8. Winni

Re: D questions

2004-12-09 Thread David Zaninovic
I have 101 hot pixels at these settings. I sent the camera for a replacement this morning. I tested Canon S45 after more than one year of use and it has only one hot pixel on 1/6 at ISO200 so I expect at least that from $1150 camera. > 10 seconds manual exposure (lens capped) > 200ISO > Dayligh

Re: D questions

2004-12-09 Thread David Zaninovic
Is AF better in low light with Pentax external flash than with internal one ? - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 7:10 PM Subject: Re: D questions > > - Original Message - > From: "David Zanin

Re: PAW: Christmas hotdog

2004-12-09 Thread Frantisek
DJM> The statue is still there, and behind it a fine museum, with a wonderful DJM> geology exhibit and the hall with a beautiful wood parquet floor and DJM> many statues and busts of Czech heros. Hi Daniel, thanks for your kind words :-) The whole staircase thing was just so funny - they had to

Re: The official PDMLer Christmas shopping list

2004-12-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Dec 2004 at 8:22, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > 1. A*85 > 2. A15 > 3. LX > 4. either istD or istDS > 5. film > 6. memory modules > 7. higher credit card limit > 8. Honey, where are you going? Mine's easy (well it would be if I weren't a Pentax user :-) 1. DSLR with faster/deeper buffe

Re: The official PDMLer Christmas shopping list

2004-12-09 Thread brooksdj
7. Forgot the room for the darkroom. I'm tired of doing wet prints on my hands and knees in a 2.5' wide bathroom.lol > Dave

Re: Digital grain (was Re: PESO My type of photographer)

2004-12-09 Thread Graywolf
Because he though he was writing to a photography mailing list, and did not know he was writting an essay that was going to be graded on grammar rather than content? graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Jon Glass wrote: On De

Re: Tablets

2004-12-09 Thread m.9.wilson
> > From: Frantisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2004/12/09 Thu PM 01:25:31 GMT > To: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Tablets > > Hi, >the recent replies to Shel's retouching thread made me ask this. > >In your actuall experience, is the small 4x6" tablet usable for image > editing

Re: OT: Digital Lith (was Re: "Fake" vs "Real" effects)

2004-12-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 8 Dec 2004 at 21:06, Mark Erickson wrote: > http://www.pauck.de/marco/photo/lith/digital_lith/digital_lith.html > > I'm actually getting very nice prints on my Epson R800 printer. Compared to > the > prints, the web images maintain some of the feel but lose a lot of the fine > crispness that

Re: ist D/DA 16-45 rebate, did anyone get theirs?

2004-12-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/12/04, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: >I told her Cotty. >Strange thing though, then the line went dead, >almost like, she hung up on me?? >Cotty... Have you been bad again? Haven't paid my bill ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pasti

Re: Happy Hannukah

2004-12-09 Thread Keith Whaley
Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! [...] Being Jewish means belonging to certain nationality, Juan. If that supposed to be "a certain nationality" (singular) or "certain nationalities," which I'm sure you or someone can actually identify, if asked. And the fact that you children will be Jewish, as was

Re: The official PDMLer Christmas shopping list

2004-12-09 Thread m.9.wilson
> 1. A*85 > 2. FA* 28-70 > 3. LX finders (various) > 4. PS CS 8-))) > 5. film > 6. 250 shot back for LX > 7. FA* 600/4 > 8. Honey, what are you doing with that knife? mike - Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/

RE: Is Pentax Broken?

2004-12-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Is Honeywell still around? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > What's wrong with Pentax? Don't they have a marketing department? > MacWorld just published a big digital photography issue, where they > cover all matter of digital cameras from P&S to SLR. Al

Re: Tablets

2004-12-09 Thread Frits Wüthrich
I use the Wacom Graphire2, that is a small one as well, 3.5x5" or 9.5x12.5cm. It works very well, and I never miss a bigger tablet, but I never worked with a bigger one either to be honest. On Thursday 09 December 2004 14:41, Doug Franklin wrote: FJW> On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:25:31 +0100, Frantisek

Re: "Fake" vs "Real" effects

2004-12-09 Thread Rob Studdert
On 8 Dec 2004 at 18:10, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > I'm not trying to argue, but rather just point out that the degree and type of > grain can be a substantial creative tool. The problem today is that there > aren't that many films to choose from with which you can easily make such > gross > manipul

Re: Paw: Fall colours #2

2004-12-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Dave, So glad to hear that you're not giving up. The tools that you asked about really won't be of much help with the actual scanning, nor will they help with color and sharpness. However, they are good tools - perhaps even great tools. Shadows/Highlights is a PS CS tool, and is not found in

Re[4]: Happy Hannukah

2004-12-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! >> Being Jewish means belonging to certain nationality, WR> hmmm. I know several Canadian citizens who are Jewish. WR> Are they misunderstanding? Bill, could be I used the wrong term. Will "heritage" work better? Or may be "people" or "set of traditions" or something else. I meant nationali

Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

2004-12-09 Thread Jon Glass
On Dec 9, 2004, at 11:34 AM, mike.wilson wrote: And they produce a computer programme for playing with pictures. It does it quite well but it's hardly obligatory for the continuation of life. Rather like music. Photoshop is a tool--often for making money. Music is entertainment. Music is a co

Re: "Fake" vs "Real" effects

2004-12-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Rob, Quite honestly, while many photogs used grain creatively, I suspect most didn't, and looked upon it as did you, something that had to be dealt with. Perhaps most photogs learned one or two films and a developer or two, and that was the extent of their repertoire, after all, the almost univ

Re: PAW: Christmas hotdog

2004-12-09 Thread Jon Glass
On Dec 9, 2004, at 1:10 PM, Frantisek wrote: This was taken in our nicest middle-ages square (which is full of ugly kitch booths and tourists and makes you puke). Make everyday a BND! We visited Prague a couple years ago, and I was very disappointed with it. It's too perfect looking! I felt li

Re: ist D/DA 16-45 rebate, did anyone get theirs?

2004-12-09 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
>Cotty >Thu, 09 Dec 2004 06:51:52 -0800 > >On 9/12/04, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>I told her Cotty. >>Strange thing though, then the line went dead, >>almost like, she hung up on me?? >>Cotty... Have you been bad again? > >Haven't paid my bill ;-) > >Cheers, > Cott

Re: PAW: Christmas hotdog

2004-12-09 Thread Jon Glass
On Dec 9, 2004, at 1:44 PM, Frantisek wrote: No, really, it's exactly that. The stall had a glass window/door which was held up during the hours it was open. Aha! And that's _you_ in the lower right-hand corner! -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: D questions

2004-12-09 Thread Butch Black
Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 8/12/04, Norman Baugher, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>Cotty taught us to read with our eyes closed at GFM using flash >>trickeryoh well, what do you expect from someone who has Star Trek >>figurines hanging on his Christmas tree. > >Norm, you're gonna ge

Re: The official PDMLer Christmas shopping list

2004-12-09 Thread Joseph Tainter
1. FA 600 f4. 2. Cotty's autograph. Joe

RE: Is Pentax Broken?

2004-12-09 Thread Joseph Tainter
Reps usually come to the two major Albuquerque photo stores before Christmas. This year the Pentax rep didn't show up. Joe

RE: "Fake" vs "Real" effects

2004-12-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
FWIW, In real life there is no grain! So if you want the most realistic looking photographs, grain must be eliminated. To me, noise/grain is an unnatural artifact and is very undesireable 99.9% of the time. With digital processing "grain effect" or noise can be added after the fact so if you want

Lenses for the istd(s)

2004-12-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I saw some pics posted that were made using the 14/28 lens, and they looked awful. Is anyone using this lens with good results, and can you put up a pic or two showing center and edge. I don't need to see a complete photo, but nice, representative sections would be nice, preferably unmanipulated

Re: PAW: Christmas hotdog

2004-12-09 Thread Jon Glass
On Dec 9, 2004, at 5:07 PM, Jon Glass wrote: We visited Prague a couple years ago, and I was very disappointed with it. It's too perfect looking! I felt like I was in Epcott! Warsaw is just as bad, no, worse... They were forced to rebuild their "old town" after WWII, and it looks really fake. :-

Re: Is something wrong with my CF card?

2004-12-09 Thread Steve Pearson
Just FYI, I re-formatted it in the camera, and it is back to normal. Thanks all! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I get that when i move a card from the D1 to the D2H > or visa versa. I format in camera and > all is well. > > If that does not work,..? > > Dave > >

RE: The official PDMLer Christmas shopping list

2004-12-09 Thread Andy Chang
1. A15/3.5 2. F17-28/3.5-4.5 fisheye 3. New laptop computer 4. LX2000 5. MZ-S 6. A better paid job Not impossible, but not easy*sigh* Andy

PESO: President of Poland State visit

2004-12-09 Thread Frantisek
so here is a gallery of my selects from the state visit of President Kwasniewsky in Czech republic. I wasn't to cover his whole visit (fortunately) so I was able to do the more interesting moments (a stroll on Charles Bridge, etc). Fortunately, I had the choice, because otherwise I would have to e

RE: Lenses for the istd(s)

2004-12-09 Thread Andy Chang
Shel, I can't say about the DA14/2.8 and the DA16-45 since I don't have both and I'm not planning about getting it since it will vignette on my LX I've got several decent primes and they all work very well on my DS and gives excellent quality pics. So I guess any of the good primes recommended on

Re: Is Pentax Broken?

2004-12-09 Thread David Zaninovic
Maybe they hope to sell on the internet only and don't care about local shops any more. - Original Message - From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pdml" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 11:17 AM Subject: RE: Is Pentax Broken? > Reps usually come to the tw

RE: "Fake" vs "Real" effects

2004-12-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Photography is sometimes more than just capturing "reality," but your point is noted. Shel > [Original Message] > From: J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 12/9/2004 8:23:35 AM > Subject: RE: "Fake" vs "Real" effects > > FWIW, > > In real life there is no grain

Re: Lenses for the istd(s)

2004-12-09 Thread pnstenquist
Hi Shel, I'm extremely pleased with the DA 16-45. I've listed some of the images that are currently on Photo Net. I've made 17 x12 prints of the two Chicago pics and the Dodge engine. They have excellent corner sharpness. I have a detail from the Dodge engine pic at home that shows just the part

OT: Help, CRT 'collapsed', LCD monitor for photography?

2004-12-09 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Hi, My 4+ year old 17" CRT monitor broke yesterday. I am not sure what happened but it smells as if there is something burned inside. Anyway, I was thinking on replace it within a year, so I am not interested at all in repairing it. The logical choice would be to switch to a LCD 17" monitor (I ha

RE: Lenses for the istd(s)

2004-12-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yes, I understand that. I should ahve been more clear and was thinking about other brands or other lenses that are designed for the dslr. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Andy Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I can't say about the DA14/2.8 and the DA16-45 since I don't have both > and I'm not pl

Re: Is Pentax Broken?

2004-12-09 Thread Gonz
Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Page 2: CSI: NY last night used an Olympus digital for crime scene photography. Thats interesting, CSI: Las Vegas, pretty consistently uses Nikon, what appears to be an 84/8700 prosumer. rg

Re: Is Pentax Broken?

2004-12-09 Thread pnstenquist
The fact that stores are dropping the Pentax line is somewhat disconcerting. But I'm more concerned with Pentax not being represented in major magazine reviews, like the article in this month's MacWorld. If you're not reviewed, you're not on the shopping lists. This is Christmas season. Time to

RE: "Fake" vs "Real" effects

2004-12-09 Thread Mark Erickson
JCO wrote: In real life there is no grain! So if you want the most realistic looking photographs, grain must be eliminated. To me, noise/grain is an unnatural artifact and is very undesireable 99.9% of the time. Aha! The key there is the "if" in your statement. It's really all about what you wa

Re: The official PDMLer Christmas list

2004-12-09 Thread Jack Davis
Re: Konica Minolta DiMAGE Scan Elite 5400 & LaserSoft Imaging SilverFast Ai Color Management Software. Have read lauding things about the DiMAGE, but not on this list (I don't believe). I recall some "SilverFast" discussion, but wasn't able to locate it in the archives. I'd be grateful for any opin

Re: Help, CRT 'collapsed', LCD monitor for photography?

2004-12-09 Thread David Zaninovic
I was also thinking about LCD monitors but I bought 19" Viewsonic GS790 instead, it is short as 17" monitor. From monitorsonsale.com for only $120 or so, it is refurbished. A long way from $600 and probably with better picture quality and without dead pixels. :) CRT rules ! - Original Mes

RE: "Fake" vs "Real" effects

2004-12-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
yes, to me more realisitic is **usually** with photograpy. Its gives you more of the "being there" experience than grainy photos do. Realism is nice. As for painting, that is another medium altogher. Once photgraphy came along, wasn't the school of "realistic" painting of real world subjects basic

RE: Lenses for the istd(s)

2004-12-09 Thread Andy Chang
I see... Sorry... can't help you then... I don't have lenses from other brand... : P Andy -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 12:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Lenses for the istd(s) Yes, I understand that. I shoul

Re: OT: Digital Lith (was Re: "Fake" vs "Real" effects)

2004-12-09 Thread Mark Erickson
Rob, Nice work with your images. I really like this technique because it gives the user fairly independent control over the shadows and highlights. You can also change the image dramatically by using the channel mixer to convert to convert your image to monochrome. Because of differences in l

RE: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

2004-12-09 Thread Tom C
Amen Larry. Tom C. From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 12:09:01 -0600 Thanks for that Larry. I'm staying out of this because I'm a reseller of software. People other than the

Re: Photoshop CS Bargain Basement

2004-12-09 Thread Tom C
ernreed wrote: Also, I suspect (though I have no studies to back this up) that some people in possession of illegal copies of Photoshop might have considered *buying* Photoshop Elements if they hadn't had the opportunity to buy the illegal copy of Photoshop. Count me among those who say that "It'

Re[2]: Happy Hannukah

2004-12-09 Thread Jerry in Houston
My one and only comment on this issue some years ago this clueless Irish Catholic kid dated a Jewish gal I asked her about this and she said that being Jewish was more a way of life rather than a religion. YMMV Jerry in Houston <> Being Jewish means belonging to certain nationality, >>

Re: The official PDMLer Christmas shopping list

2004-12-09 Thread ernreed2
Mine: 1. FA 28/2.8 2. Strap FG (with pockets) 3. Memory: Larger hard drive for PC. 4. Memory: Larger external hard drive. 5. Memory: More RAM for PC. 6. Memory: CF cards for *ist D. 7. Memory: grey cells ... Oh, never mind. 8. I'm forgetting some stuff. I just know it. ERNR

Re: Is Pentax Broken?

2004-12-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Are they dropping the line, or just out of stock? Not that either is good, esprecially this time of year. I have seen a TV ad appear on our local station ... that's relatively new here. Shel > [Original Message] > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 12/9/2004 8:55:42 A

Re: Is Pentax Broken? Is it time for a Eulogy

2004-12-09 Thread Larry Levy
Last month, the Pentax rep was at the Wolf multi-rep show in Dallas. She enabled me to side-by-side compare the istD & DS and helped in my deciding to go with the D. However, when I went back there this week to thank my salesman and make sure that he got his commission (he wasn't there when I a

Re: Is something wrong with my CF card?

2004-12-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
I've made it a point to remove images from my memory cards by reformatting them, in camera, hopefully preventing future capture issues which I'm led to believe can happen by simply deleting. -Original Message- From: John Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Dec 9, 2004 2:10 AM To: [EMAIL PR

Raw TIFF [Re: Lenses for the istd(s)]

2004-12-09 Thread Juan Buhler
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 08:21:58 -0800, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I realized yesterday that a PEF file can be > saved, unmanipulated, as a TIF or a PSD file. How? Is there a simple way to do this? A quick search showed a post to this list by John Francis, saying that the Pentax RAW

Re: Scanner: which one?

2004-12-09 Thread Thibs
What about a Microtek ArtixScan 1800f. It is a film scanner but only 1800dpi. Or what about a Canon Canoscan 5200F (it is 2400x4800 dpi) ? Thibouille Collin R Brendemuehl a écrit : At 02:52 2004.12.08 -0500, you wrote: Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 08:34:50 +0100 From: Thibs <[EMAIL PR

Re: The official PDMLer Christmas shopping list

2004-12-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
A 20/2.8 A 15/3.5 FA 43/1.9 FA 77/1.9 (2) Leica MP CV 35/1.2 Tele-Elmarit istD Nikon HN-15 Lens Hood Imacon 868 Scanner Hasselblad 601 system 42" Plasma TV Cable High Speed Internet Connection Brakes for my Toyota New Bowling Ball Jimmy Durante CD Collection Pkg of Pens for Office Light Bulb for Up

Re: D questions

2004-12-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/12/04, Butch Black, discombobulated, unleashed: >Does this mean that Pentax is coming out with an endoscope with TTL flash? >If they do can we submit to the PUG with it? And it's a professional version, so it's blackand takes batteries Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | P

Re: Is Pentax Broken?

2004-12-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/12/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: >The fact that stores are dropping the Pentax line is somewhat >disconcerting. But I'm more concerned with Pentax not being represented >in major magazine reviews, like the article in this month's MacWorld. If >you're not reviewed, you're

RE: Raw TIFF [Re: Lenses for the istd(s)]

2004-12-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Juan ... Open PS Camera Raw and open RAW image (I just clicked on the file) Click on OK - File opens in PS window Use File > Save As Choose TIF or PSD from drop down menu That's all there is to it. Works for Nikon NEF Files as well, and probably others. Shel > [Original Message] > From:

Re: Scanner: which one?

2004-12-09 Thread Henri Toivonen
I just ordered the Minolta Scan Dual IV yesterday, it wasn't very expensive and I have heard good things baout it. /Henri Thibs wrote: What about a Microtek ArtixScan 1800f. It is a film scanner but only 1800dpi. Or what about a Canon Canoscan 5200F (it is 2400x4800 dpi) ? Thib

Re: PESO: President of Poland State visit

2004-12-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/12/04, Frantisek, discombobulated, unleashed: >http://fotof.wz.cz/polpres Good job Fra - I like numbers 2 and 8. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

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