Re: First DSLR with live LCD view!

2004-12-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Dec 2004 at 8:31, Jon Glass wrote: > On Dec 17, 2004, at 1:44 AM, Luigi de Guzman wrote: > > > As I recall, they achieved this by means of a beamsplitter, and they > > didn't > > have a mechanical shutter. > > > Actually, I think they did. I almost bought an E20, and it would black > out

Re: First DSLR with live LCD view!

2004-12-16 Thread Jon Glass
On Dec 17, 2004, at 1:44 AM, Luigi de Guzman wrote: As I recall, they achieved this by means of a beamsplitter, and they didn't have a mechanical shutter. Actually, I think they did. I almost bought an E20, and it would black out before the shot, and I sometimes heard a clicking sound. Their me

Re: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread Jon Glass
On Dec 17, 2004, at 3:41 AM, Don Sanderson wrote: I said "candid", not "covert"! ;-) If you want covert, there's always this: This discussion got me looking on our lokal "eBay" and this was the first auction. ;-) Divide the "Kup teraz" (buy it n

Re: OT: Car Enabled

2004-12-16 Thread Pat White
Frank pointed out: No, no, no, Pat, You mean, "Heavy duty cop engine, heavy cop frame, cop brakes, cop oil cooler, cop sway bars, cop shocks..." -Joliet Jake That's right, Frank, you know what I'm talking about! My previous one, an Impala, was even black and white for the first six months or so.

Re: Grain desolving programs

2004-12-16 Thread Herb Chong
i use Grain Surgery and Neat Image Pro (because it's a Photoshop plugin and non-pro isn't) and of the two, i think Grain Surgery does a better job, but it's enough harder to use that i always try Neat Image first. i reserve Grain Surgery for matching grain or simulating a specific film. about th

RE: Help dating a photo

2004-12-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
No negative, just the old print. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Anthony Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I can't guess any better than you have, but think it noteworthy that the > lady is wearing a flapper dress (or something like it) plus trousers. > That's a fairly idiosyncratic combination th

Re: Help dating a photo

2004-12-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Since posting the original request, the photo's been dated to around the mid-twenties by several sources that do such things, including the Coordinator of Visual References at the Indiana Historical Society, an 82yo woman who compared her family photos to this one, and an expert on vintage clothing

RE: *ist Ds obiter dictum

2004-12-16 Thread Jens Bladt
Sounds right. But I have no electronic education. Where can I check the discharge current, when I buy a battery? Jens Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Frantisek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 16. december 2004 13:20 Til: Will

SV: First DSLR with live LCD view!

2004-12-16 Thread Jens Bladt
Yes, and...? Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Luigi de Guzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. december 2004 01:44 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: First DSLR with live LCD view! On Thursday 16 December 2004 18:58, Jens B

Re: Grain dessolving programs

2004-12-16 Thread Jack Davis
Rob, I always feel complimented by the thought and consideration shown in your responses. As usual, thanks for the solid help. Jack --- Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 16 Dec 2004 at 7:53, Jack Davis wrote: > > > Another naive subjective dip in the list knowledge > > well..

RE: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread Don Sanderson
Sorry, misused my letters. I was referring to a *manual* version as versus A,F or FA. Hence the reference to Green Button/stopping down being 6/half dozen. I can see the SMCT bringing that much easily. Mine is just a ST and I love it, I consider $150 a bargain for the quality. Don > -Origin

RE: PESO:a sample of a gold plated clay figure - Pentax Macro 50mm/SFxn

2004-12-16 Thread Don Sanderson
I use one of these: http://tinyurl.com/4ljuk for all my product shots, with the two daylight flourescent lamps Rob recommended it works very well for cameras, lenses, etc. You could easily make one from and old white bedsheet too! Just arrange it like a tent with the two lights outside. Makes for

RE: PESO:peacocks eye Pentax Macro lens 50mm

2004-12-16 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Rob thanks a lot for your answer. I have to find out whether I underexposed the shot or if the color cast is simply from the scan. with the Canon. The printed photo looks good me, but may be color corrected. I will try adding some green as you suggested, thanks. Considering the loss of the neg

Re: OK, I gotta ask!

2004-12-16 Thread Chan Yong Wei
Well Mike Johnston suggests in this article (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-04-04-04.shtml) that it's pronounced "with bo as in bone and ke as in Kenneth, with equal stress on either syllable". On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:52:14 -0500, Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know who he w

FS: Gitzo Tripod

2004-12-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
I have an older Gitzo tripod for sale, it was purchased from an outdoor photo pro several years ago for use with my 600mm FA lens. I recently purchased a Gitzo 1548 CF and have no use for this tripod. Great for use with bigger lens that require extra stability. I don't know the model number but i

Re: OT: artful lens review

2004-12-16 Thread Luigi de Guzman
On Friday 17 December 2004 00:05, Mark Erickson wrote: > I ran across this Erwin Puts review of a Leica lens and was struck by its > artfully-crafted prose Erwin Puts is probably the biggest Leicaphile on the planet. His reviews are generally good reads, but he sometimes gets carried away by his

OT: artful lens review

2004-12-16 Thread Mark Erickson
I ran across this Erwin Puts review of a Leica lens and was struck by its artfully-crafted prose. I thought some of you might enjoy reading it also: http://www.imx.nl/photosite/leica/mseries/testm/m2-35.html Here are a few notable quotes: Leica is clearly practicing the art of perfection

Re: PESO

2004-12-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Graywolf" Subject: Re: PESO Looks more like a reflection to me. I was hoping so, but I think one of those 200 lights managed to make a flare ater being given ample opportunity. William Robb

Re: PESO

2004-12-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm quite sure it's a flare. The shape is revealing. Paul On Dec 16, 2004, at 10:38 PM, Graywolf wrote: Looks more like a reflection to me. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- William Robb wrote: In honour of the ancient midwi

Re: OK, I gotta ask!

2004-12-16 Thread Graywolf
I know who he was and what his rules are used for, but pronounciation would be just a guess. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert"Subject: Re: OK, I gotta

Re: Exif Analyser

2004-12-16 Thread Graywolf
I can see that digital has done away with the zen of photography. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Ryan Lee wrote: Don't know if this is an old one, but here's a simple yet interesting tool which tells you about your shooti

Re: PESO

2004-12-16 Thread Graywolf
Looks more like a reflection to me. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- William Robb wrote: In honour of the ancient midwinter festival as was celebrated by my ancestors on my father's, mother's side of the family; The Picts.

Re: PESO

2004-12-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Subject: Re: PESO Nice tree Bill. Good job hanging the tinesel. I love tinsel. My mother used to stay up all night hanging it piece by piece withperfect symmetry. I enjoyed this. Thanks for sharing. Paul; I cannot take credit for the tree, other than carrying

Re: 2G Compact Flash Microdrive $129 and a $20 rebate

2004-12-16 Thread John Francis
William Robb mused: > > > http://www.adorama.com/IMTMD2GA.html > > > > $109 for 2G? OK it's a microdrive, but... I've used a 1G > > microdrive in the *istD and it has worked well. I noticed some > > difference in performance but this deal is pretty good. > > I don't trust the little buggers

Re: PESO

2004-12-16 Thread pnstenquist
I love tinsel. I hate tinesel > Nice tree Bill. Good job hanging the tinesel. I love tinesel. My mother used > to > stay up all night hanging it piece by piece withperfect symmetry. I enjoyed > this. Thanks for sharing. > Paul > > > > In honour of the ancient midwinter festival as was celeb

Re: PESO

2004-12-16 Thread pnstenquist
Nice tree Bill. Good job hanging the tinesel. I love tinesel. My mother used to stay up all night hanging it piece by piece withperfect symmetry. I enjoyed this. Thanks for sharing. Paul > In honour of the ancient midwinter festival as was celebrated by my > ancestors on my father's, mother's

Re: PESO:a sample of a gold plated clay figure - Pentax Macro 50mm/SFxn

2004-12-16 Thread William Robb
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2964731 Softer light. If you want to something really special for her, take a piece of window glass and put a white cloth on it. Illuminate it from below at about the same, or a bit more brightness of the overhead light, which needs to be tented. This

PESO

2004-12-16 Thread William Robb
In honour of the ancient midwinter festival as was celebrated by my ancestors on my father's, mother's side of the family; The Picts.. Just kidding, all I know about the Picts I learned listening to Pink Floyd. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/tree2004_with_flare.html Cotty, that is a

Re: Help dating a photo

2004-12-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/16/2004 7:38:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/family/child-parents.html Shel === She's wearing a drop waist dress (no waist at waistline), very typical of the 20's. However, it was embroidered, very typi

RE: PESO:a sample of a gold plated clay figure - Pentax Macro 50mm/SFxn

2004-12-16 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Don thanks, very good ideas, I will try "most" of them soon and have a look at prices here for the Box. >>I use one of these: >>http://tinyurl.com/4ljuk this will not fit the Basset! greetings Markus >for all my product shots, with the two daylight >flourescent lamps Rob recommended it wo

RE: Help dating a photo

2004-12-16 Thread Anthony Farr
I can't guess any better than you have, but think it noteworthy that the lady is wearing a flapper dress (or something like it) plus trousers. That's a fairly idiosyncratic combination that a fashion expert may be able to date. Do you have the negative? I once found Kodak's technical advisors ver

SV: Grain desolving programs

2004-12-16 Thread Joakim Johansson
http://www.imagenomic.com/ Try this! /Joakim --- I have used Digital GEM and ISOX Pro. I am not satisfied with either one. They soften the image too much. If I then sharpen, the grain/noise just comes back. Anyone found a bet

RE: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread Don Sanderson
I said "candid", not "covert"! ;-) My hand holdable limit on the D is about 150mm. Any longer and I need very fast shutter speeds to overcome "heartbeat shake". I can use the 85 down to about 1/30th with little problem. I think that's because it's a rather "stubby" lens with little physical length

RE: PESO:a sample of a gold plated clay figure - Pentax Macro 50mm/SFxn

2004-12-16 Thread Don Sanderson
I use one of these: http://tinyurl.com/4ljuk for all my product shots, with the two daylight flourescent lamps Rob recommended it works very well for cameras, lenses, etc. You could easily make one from and old white bedsheet too! Just arrange it like a tent with the two lights outside. Makes for

RE: OK, I gotta ask!

2004-12-16 Thread Anthony Farr
Shime-floog, with just a hint of a p before the f. I've heard both a short floog as in "look", and a long floog as in "shoe". Both seem to be accepted pronunciations. regards, Anthony Farr > -Original Message- > From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > So what's the correct pro

RE: PESO:a sample of a gold plated clay figure - Pentax Macro 50mm/SFxn

2004-12-16 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Rob thanks for the link, I just saved it on HD. I have a soft ball from Hama, but it is a pain to fixate it on the flash. I can dismount the lamp arms from the repro table, I will try photographing with two side lamps next time as a compromise (and maybe the reduced flash a front light). The tab

Re: Grain desolving programs

2004-12-16 Thread Joseph Tainter
I have used Digital GEM and ISOX Pro. I am not satisfied with either one. They soften the image too much. If I then sharpen, the grain/noise just comes back. Anyone found a better plug-in for this? Joe

Re: 2G Compact Flash Microdrive $129 and a $20 rebate

2004-12-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: 2G Compact Flash Microdrive $129 and a $20 rebate http://www.adorama.com/IMTMD2GA.html $109 for 2G? OK it's a microdrive, but... I've used a 1G microdrive in the *istD and it has worked well. I noticed some difference in performance but t

Re: Help dating a photo

2004-12-16 Thread Eactivist
I'd say early 1930's. The woman's hair is marcelled, which probably means 1920's to early 1930's. But for some reason, it looks more 1930's to me than 1920's to me, something about the clothes. Doe aka Marnie

Exif Analyser

2004-12-16 Thread Ryan Lee
Don't know if this is an old one, but here's a simple yet interesting tool which tells you about your shooting habits: http://www.csie.nctu.edu.tw/~ycdai/software/software_e.html Cheers, Ryan

Re: PESO:a sample of a gold plated clay figure - Pentax Macro 50mm/SFxn

2004-12-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Dec 2004 at 12:48, Rob Studdert wrote: > I would recommend a 4 lamp repro-table. Doh, should read "would not" Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer si

2G Compact Flash Microdrive $129 and a $20 rebate

2004-12-16 Thread Tom C
http://www.adorama.com/IMTMD2GA.html $109 for 2G? OK it's a microdrive, but... I've used a 1G microdrive in the *istD and it has worked well. I noticed some difference in performance but this deal is pretty good. Tom C.

RE: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread Don Sanderson
LOL, love 'em! Don > -Original Message- > From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 8:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Was it really worth that much? > > > On 17 Dec 2004 at 1:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > For candid portraits I p

Re: PESO:a sample of a gold plated clay figure - Pentax Macro 50mm/SFxn

2004-12-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Dec 2004 at 2:29, Markus Maurer wrote: > Hi Rob > my girlfriend makes clay figures and I will try to photograph each before > she sells them > to make a nice catalogue in A4 format for her as a present... Great idea, I'm sure it will be greatly appreciated. > Should I forget about the flas

RE: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread pnstenquist
Doh. That was supposed to read, "With a 300, you can hide around the corner." Paul > For candid portraits I prefer something longer than 135. Even with an 85, > you're > only a half dozen feet away or so. With a e00, you can hide around the > corner:-). > Paul > > > > Good points. > > One of

Re: Joliet Jake

2004-12-16 Thread Jerry in Houston
<<"Heavy duty cop engine, heavy cop frame, cop brakes, cop oil cooler, cop sway bars, cop shocks..." -Joliet Jake >> Sorry, it was Elwoods' (Dan Ackroyd) line...

RE: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Dec 2004 at 1:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > For candid portraits I prefer something longer than 135. Even with an 85, > you're > only a half dozen feet away or so. With a e00, you can hide around the > corner:-). Paul Yes, even my AF200/2.8 with a 1.7 tc is too short on occasion :-P http

PESO:a sample of a gold plated clay figure - Pentax Macro 50mm/SFxn

2004-12-16 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Rob my girlfriend makes clay figures and I will try to photograph each before she sells them to make a nice catalogue in A4 format for her as a present... This is another try with the new Pentax 50mm A 2.8 macro lens and Agfa ISO 200 vista film, flashed with the 280T and negative scanned with

Re: Grain desolving programs

2004-12-16 Thread Doug Franklin
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 07:53:01 -0800 (PST), Jack Davis wrote: > Do grain dissolving programs effectively discern what > is grain? Are you left with an unrecoverable soft > image? Does re-sharpening revive the grain and defeat > the effect? I've used NeatImage (neatimage.com) to good effect on quit

RE: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread pnstenquist
For candid portraits I prefer something longer than 135. Even with an 85, you're only a half dozen feet away or so. With a e00, you can hide around the corner:-). Paul > Good points. > One of my posts doesn't seem to have made it to the list. > I referrred to the 85 as "candid portrait" lens on

RE: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread Don Sanderson
Good points. One of my posts doesn't seem to have made it to the list. I referrred to the 85 as "candid portrait" lens on the D. By this I mean a lens which allows a comfortable and inconspicuous working distance with little distortion of features. Also fast enough to focus manually (ie:without ob

Re: First DSLR with live LCD view!

2004-12-16 Thread Peter Loveday
After looking at other press releases, I don't think it's a ZLR. It looks like the optical viewfinder is still there. I'll bet the "Live Image Mode" moves the mirror, opens the mechanical shutter, and captures an image from the CCD a couple of times a second. Look out, batteries! That looks like it

Re: OK, I gotta ask!

2004-12-16 Thread John Coyle
Never heard it pronounced, but in my tiny mind I say "Bokk-ay" - short flat "o" as in "rock", long "a"as in "hay"! HTH John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 10:09 AM Su

Re: First DSLR with live LCD view!

2004-12-16 Thread Jens Bladt
Look, it's a dslr ..http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/OlympusE20/Images/e20cutthrough.jpg look, it has a live LCD: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/OlympusE20/page7.asp Dear fellow PDML'ers. I don't believe this is new. Olympus had two DSLRs with live LCD for years! Olympus E-20. Also the E-10, I b

RE: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 Dec 2004 at 18:26, Don Sanderson wrote: > "Hoovers"? As in vacuums [vacuums suck ;-)], as in bad? I don't know, the 77mm is Ok for me, bokeh is nice and smooth, wide open it's fine too, it may be too sharp for some though. I must admit that I'm a little confused over all this portrait len

RE: PsESO - more gulls

2004-12-16 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Christian wonderful bird portraits and the light and the nice blurred background sky adds too. Maybe I would prefer a little more surrounding environment and a even less centered view, but I'm not sure on that. thanks for showing it Markus Subject: PsESO - more gulls More shots from my da

RE: OK, I gotta ask!

2004-12-16 Thread Don Sanderson
I'd forgotten I'd also seen it spelled three ways. OK, I'll go with bokeh, pronounced: Bo (like bow and arrow) and Kah (As in the New Englander I pahked my kah at the bah and now it's gahn) ;-) With the em-phasis' on the first syl-la'-ble, of course. Thanks Don > -Original Message- > Fro

Re: First DSLR with live LCD view!

2004-12-16 Thread Luigi de Guzman
On Thursday 16 December 2004 18:58, Jens Bladt wrote: > Dear fellow PDML'ers. I don't believe this is new. Olympus had two DSLRs > with live LCD for years! Olympus E-20. Also the E-10, I believe. They don't > have exchangeable lenses, but nevertheless, they are still DSLRs vwith a > live LCD. > All

Re: PsESO - more gulls

2004-12-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
IMHO, the first one is the best, great light, good focus, decent pose. Minor nit - a little too close to the RH edge. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 5:06 PM Subject: PsESO - more gulls

Re: Proof if proof were needed

2004-12-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: Proof if proof were needed On 16/12/04, Rebekah Gonzalez, discombobulated, unleashed: it's so sad. What is sad? Not happy. Without cheer. In your case, probably without a glass of wine in hand. William Robb

Re: OK, I gotta ask!

2004-12-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert"Subject: Re: OK, I gotta ask! So what's the correct pronunciation for "Scheimpflug"? Pop Quiz: Who knows what it is without looking it up? For the record, I do. William Robb

Re: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Don Sanderson"Subject: RE: Was it really worth that much? "Hoovers"? As in vacuums [vacuums suck ;-)], as in bad? bad. William Robb

RE: OT PS Vintage photo phun

2004-12-16 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Jostein I like your b/w conversion and it's a lovely place and mill. Indeed the photo looks nicer with some film grain but looses a bit in the roof details of the mill for me. This is a good inspiriation for me to try some b/w conversions, thanks for showing it. greetings Markus Jostein wrot

RE: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread pnstenquist
It's a K lens Don. The M 85, which is much less expensive, is an 85/2. My SMCT version went for $270 a few months ago. Paul > Actually, having had a "taste" of what this lens can do > by using the ST 85/1.9, and having heard past prices, > I was amazed it lasted almost 10 hours. > I wouldn't hav

RE: PAW: Coffeehouse Conversation

2004-12-16 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Frank I like the arrangement of the photo with the coffee cup and the newspaper. You photographed what was there but I would prefer to look at a fresher coffee and a bit more light on the faces of the two women. The text on the newspaper could be a bit more readable too for my taste. Otherwise

Re: Proof if proof were needed

2004-12-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Why is it sad? I was pleased to see how much better the Pentax lens renders this scene. Paul On Dec 16, 2004, at 5:51 PM, Rebekah Gonzalez wrote: it's so sad. rg2 - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 200

RE: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread Don Sanderson
"Hoovers"? As in vacuums [vacuums suck ;-)], as in bad? Don > -Original Message- > From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 6:05 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Was it really worth that much? es to mind. > > The 77 pretty much Hoovers as

Re: Proof if proof were needed

2004-12-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/12/04, Rebekah Gonzalez, discombobulated, unleashed: >it's so sad. What is sad? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: OK, I gotta ask!

2004-12-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 Dec 2004 at 18:09, Don Sanderson wrote: > I've looked this up and got a dozen different answers. > So here it comes: > How the heck do *YOU* pronounce "Boket"? > I know what it is but still don't know how to SAY it. > That's why I like to use "OOF Highlights" instead. > > I'll go put on m

RE: PESO:peacocks eye Pentax Macro lens 50mm

2004-12-16 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Shel yes, filmed on Agfa ISO 200 film and then scanned the negative with the Canon 9900F at 3200dpi and adjusted in Photoshop. greetings Markus - Subject: RE: PESO:peacocks eye Pentax Macro lens 50mm Do I understand you correctly: You shot this on 35mm film using the Pentax macro lens, and t

Re: OK, I gotta ask!

2004-12-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Don Sanderson" Subject: OK, I gotta ask! I've looked this up and got a dozen different answers. So here it comes: How the heck do *YOU* pronounce "Boket"? I know what it is but still don't know how to SAY it. That's why I like to use "OOF Highlights" instead

Re: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've seen that lens go for even a bit more. And as good examples end up in the hands of those who will never part with them, it becomes more and more scarce. Paul On Dec 16, 2004, at 5:15 PM, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&rd=1&item=3860946186&ssPag

OK, I gotta ask!

2004-12-16 Thread Don Sanderson
I've looked this up and got a dozen different answers. So here it comes: How the heck do *YOU* pronounce "Boket"? I know what it is but still don't know how to SAY it. That's why I like to use "OOF Highlights" instead. I'll go put on my dunce cap now. ;-/ Don

Re: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Don Sanderson" Subject: RE: Was it really worth that much? From what I've seen it stacks up just fine. At $700.00 it stacks a bit to high for me though. :-( Actually, from the results I get with the 85/1.9 (Under $150.00) I don't know if the 77 could beat it f

Re: First DSLR with live LCD view!

2004-12-16 Thread Jens Bladt
Dear fellow PDML'ers. I don't believe this is new. Olympus had two DSLRs with live LCD for years! Olympus E-20. Also the E-10, I believe. They don't have exchangeable lenses, but nevertheless, they are still DSLRs vwith a live LCD. All the best Jens Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.

How all pro studios will be working in some years...

2004-12-16 Thread Albano Garcia
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/pi-media-networks.shtml Regards, = Albano Garcia Photography & Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it

FS Friday (early): AF400FTZ and w/a attachment

2004-12-16 Thread Mark Roberts
For sale: Pentax AF400FTZ flash Almost new condition. Includes box, packing, manual and case. Zoom head adjusts coverage for lenses from 28mm to 105mm. Also includes optional fresnel lens attachment (also mint, in box) to increase coverage for wide angle lenses down to 24mm (full-frame coverage -

RE: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread Don Sanderson
>From what I've seen it stacks up just fine. At $700.00 it stacks a bit to high for me though. :-( Actually, from the results I get with the 85/1.9 (Under $150.00) I don't know if the 77 could beat it for portraits, it WOULD be much easier to use and a lot smaller. >From the 77 examples I've seen I

Re: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread Peter J. Alling
To someone..(Seripak for example). Collin R Brendemuehl wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3860946186&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT "You impress at a distance, but you impact a life up close. The closer the relationship the greater the impact." Howard Hendricks -- I can

Re: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Don Sanderson" Subject: RE: Was it really worth that much? I WOULD give that much in a *heartbeat* for an A, F or FA version, if it was nearly as good! How does the 77 stack up? William Robb

Re: Proof if proof were needed

2004-12-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Rebekah Gonzalez" Subject: Re: Proof if proof were needed it's so sad. Not really. I feel my enablement was justified now. William Robb rg2 - Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Proof if proof were needed On the left, the Sigma 14mm EX f2.8

RE: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread Don Sanderson
Candid portraits in real dim lighting anyone? Don (The fast 85 is your friend!) > -Original Message- > From: Mark Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 5:23 PM > To: pentax-discuss > Subject: Re: Was it really worth that much? > A fast 85 is a wonderful t

Re: Proof if proof were needed

2004-12-16 Thread Rebekah Gonzalez
it's so sad. rg2 - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 4:09 PM Subject: Proof if proof were needed > On the left, the Sigma 14mm EX f2.8 lens. > > On the right, the Pentax SMC K15mm f3.5 lens. >

A35-70/4 is here

2004-12-16 Thread Juan Buhler
KEH delivers again. My A35-70/4 (to replace my separated FA28-70/4 on the istD and complement the FA16-45) just arrived, with plenty of time to join me in London. EX condition, which in KEH terms means "someone opened it, threw away the box and kept it in a shelf until you bought it". First impres

Re: PAW: Coffeehouse Conversation

2004-12-16 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:49:00 +0100, Bernd Scheffler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like most of your 40mm-photos, but the wider angle of the vivitar makes > your photos still stronger. > Like it, Frank. Real street photography, even in a coffeehouse ;-) Thanks, Bernd, I like that lens, except it'

Re: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread Mark Erickson
Consider also the prices of the 77mm ltd, the FA* 85 F1.4, and the nearly-unobtainable A* 85 F1.4. A fast 85 is a wonderful thing. --Mark Shel Belinkoff wrote: It wasn't that long ago that these lenses were selling for quite a bit more. $420.00 seems like a reasonable - almost bargain - pric

RE: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread Don Sanderson
Actually, having had a "taste" of what this lens can do by using the ST 85/1.9, and having heard past prices, I was amazed it lasted almost 10 hours. I wouldn't have paid that much for the M version when I could get the SMCT for much less. I don't find stop down operation much of a bother, you have

Re: PAW: Coffeehouse Conversation

2004-12-16 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:21:36 -0800, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2959523 > > Great picture! > > No comment, other than maybe dodge the face of the woman in the corner > of the frame a bit? > Agreed. She's not so bad in the print, but if

Re: PAW: Coffeehouse Conversation

2004-12-16 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 06:16:29 -0500, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the reduced contrast is a plus. Although I've come to think of > high contrast as part of your BW style. It can be interesting in > situations like this or the lounge songstress. Thanks for your comments, Paul,

Re: PAW: Coffeehouse Conversation

2004-12-16 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:16:06 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This one is very good Frank. > The first thing i noticed my self doing was look at the white cup then follow > the picture > up to the people > talking.I was able to take in the whole shot this way. Everything

Re: OT: Car Enabled

2004-12-16 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:06:51 -0800, Pat White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I miss my ex-police Caprice... 5.7 liter, heavier-guage frame, bigger > brakes, engine oil cooler, big sway bars front and rear. A hard car to > break, and easily good for 350,000km (but you must replace the tranny after >

Re: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It wasn't that long ago that these lenses were selling for quite a bit more. $420.00 seems like a reasonable - almost bargain - price to me. I sold two that needed repair for more that $350.00 each some time ago, and paid $600.00 plus for one that was in "mint" condition, also a few years back.

Re: PsESO - more gulls

2004-12-16 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Did we need another acronym? Why not PESO? > > Fred Sorry, Fred, just trying to be cute PsESO = Picture"s" Every So Often Christian

Re: First DSLR with live LCD view!

2004-12-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Tim Sherburne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >After looking at other press releases, I don't think it's a ZLR. It looks >like the optical viewfinder is still there. I'll bet the "Live Image Mode" >moves the mirror, opens the mechanical shutter, and captures an image from >the CCD a couple of times a s

Re: PsESO - more gulls

2004-12-16 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Did we need another acronym? Why not PESO? Just one more. TYPO. :-) Jostein

Re: SV: The film is dead

2004-12-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Subject: Re: SV: The film is dead Just curious. Digital still can't do Infra-Red, right? One advantage film still seems to have. Except there isn't a whole lot of IR film being made anymore.. Ilford is still listing SFX, which is not really IR, but is prett

Re: SV: The film is dead

2004-12-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" Subject: Re: SV: The film is dead I expect demand for a dedicated B&W digicam would be low indeed, all our papers including the local (two editions per week) are full colour and have been for many years now. Even if the paper is printing mostly

Re: OT: Car Enabled

2004-12-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Feroze" Subject: Re: OT: Car Enabled I've heard of all those problems with the 530's except being prone to rust. Tell me more. In South Africa BM's are pretty cheap to fix, the one factory is about 70km's away from me... The rust was pretty much the entire und

Re: SV: The film is dead

2004-12-16 Thread Powell Hargrave
At 07:34 AM 16/12/2004 , you wrote: > >Just curious. Digital still can't do Infra-Red, right? > Sure can. Some people even get serious about it. http://bermangraphics.com/coolpix/990infrared.htm Powell

Re: Was it really worth that much?

2004-12-16 Thread Fred
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3860946186&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT Generic answer - Yes, if the buyer wants it that much. Specific answer - The K 85/1.8 ~is~ a gorgeous lens in all respects. Economics answer - Obviously (assuming that the buyer will come through). Fred

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