Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR

2005-06-01 Thread John Celio
Bill, that is shocking! I used to use 67II's and did NOT think they were light or small. At least it had a big negative. That Canon is one BIG camera for having a sensor of that size. I guess that was my point. People don't realize sometimes just how big the big Canon is. It's something to

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR

2005-06-01 Thread John Celio
I'm no fan of Kodak but hate to see the other full frame sensor discontinued: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0505/05053104kodakslrdisc.asp Folks, what bugs me much more is not the signs of digital age as Shel pointed out. Consider, now we're back to only one company providing (albeit

Re: Questions re Pentax made lens filters

2005-06-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! If I may make a suggestion Yes of course... Seriously, don't go out and buy a bunch of clear glass. It's not really time consuming to change filters. If you are in an all fired rush to get some glass, get a really good polarizer in each of the sizes you use, and one protective

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR

2005-06-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Here is a strange comparison for you. The Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II is: 156 x 158 x 80 mm, and 1565 grams, battery in. The Pentax 67II is 185.5mm x 151.0mm x 106.0mm and 1660g with AE Pentaprism Finder, but no batteries. Anyone know what a couple of CR-123 batteries weighs? Just

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR

2005-06-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi John! :-) Fascination with incorrectly-named full-frame sensors still irks me. I know this topic has been beaten to death here, but come on, if only ONE company is doing it, there must be good reasons for it. No point in listing what I think those reasons are, though. In my limited

Re: SMC pentax 1:3.5 100 mm macro

2005-06-01 Thread Hans Imglueck
Hi Toralf, yes, it ist built by Cosina (also one can buy the lens labeled Cosina). It goes down to 1:2. I own one and it performes well. It is very light and small. Price? Something above 100 Euros (in Germany) depending on state for the Pentax version - below 100 Euros for the Cosina version

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR

2005-06-01 Thread Cotty
On 31/5/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: I guess that was my point. People don't realize sometimes just how big the big Canon is. It's something to consider when you are wishing for performance enhancement features though. I think it appears big when all one is used to is smaller

Re: RE: My backyard (was RE: Cotty's backyard

2005-06-01 Thread dagt
I suspected that I was misunderstanding something, but did it anyway .-) I guess Norway is OK, but we haven\t one day with more than 20C yet this year, so you'll need warm clothes... Dag fra: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, yes, that looks nice. I've never been to any of the Scandinavian

Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-01 Thread Dario Bonazza
This is marketing. It means nothing. Dario - Original Message - From: Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 4:50 AM Subject: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer... ...a full-page Pentax advert containing the following copy:

Full Frame - What's the problem?

2005-06-01 Thread Cornelius Nuzzlemuff III
Why is it seemingly so difficult to produce a camera with a full frame (35mm) sensor, if Pentax and many others have/will have MF digitals surely one of these sensors could be used, even if it has to be masked? CN III -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has

Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-01 Thread David Mann
On Jun 1, 2005, at 2:50 PM, Steve Jolly wrote: Am I the only person to find it amusing that one of the least elegant features of the Pentax digital SLRs (the automatic stop- down metering mode that works around the lack of an aperture indicator coupler) is now one of their major selling

Re: Full Frame - What's the problem?

2005-06-01 Thread Alan Chan
--- Cornelius Nuzzlemuff III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it seemingly so difficult to produce a camera with a full frame (35mm) sensor, if Pentax and many others have/will have MF digitals surely one of these sensors could be used, even if it has to be masked? I imagine current full

Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-01 Thread Alan Chan
--- David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still wondering where their image stabilising and ultrasonic lenses are. If Pal is correct and Pentax is working on an EOS-killer, I guess we can expect to see these features soon... any day now... just around the corner... IMHO, Pentax

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR - the end of FF dreams

2005-06-01 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Shel Belinkoff wrote on 01.06.05 1:34: Camera bodies are discontinued. Kodak will continue to develop CCD and CMOS image sensors. Here's the part that's most discouraging: Kodak will only support the cameras through 2008. So, the cameras are what, about a year or so old, making it that

Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-01 Thread Jostein
Quoting Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] Conspiracy theories: [...] I think the most likely conspiracy theory is that Pentax Japan is holding their cards to tightly to their chest as usual. Pentax UK sounds like they don't know what's coming, so they choose to focus on the past. Pentax

Re: Questions re Pentax made lens filters

2005-06-01 Thread Jostein
Quoting Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: May I ask what is it mail order? And can I use mail order from Israel? Mail order is what you do when you buy things from shops and have them sent to you by mail. Like BH. :-) Jostein

Battery Grip ist D

2005-06-01 Thread Charles Wilson
I just have got the battery grip for the ist D, it looks and feels wonderful. I have a couple of questions though. Does the switch on the top of the camera have to be on and the switch on the bottom of the grip have to be on for it to work. The controls on the battery grip don't work

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR

2005-06-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 1 Jun 2005 at 9:26, Boris Liberman wrote: That's my point exactly. There seems to be a difficulty for camera manufacturers to produce so called full-frame DSLR. Hi Boris, In my opinion it would be no more difficult to produce a FF DSLR than a partial frame DSLR but it's guaranteed to be

Re: Full Frame - What's the problem?

2005-06-01 Thread Toralf Lund
Alan Chan wrote: --- Cornelius Nuzzlemuff III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it seemingly so difficult to produce a camera with a full frame (35mm) sensor, if Pentax and many others have/will have MF digitals surely one of these sensors could be used, even if it has to be masked? I

Re: Full Frame - What's the problem?

2005-06-01 Thread Steve Jolly
Cornelius Nuzzlemuff III wrote: Why is it seemingly so difficult to produce a camera with a full frame (35mm) sensor, if Pentax and many others have/will have MF digitals surely one of these sensors could be used, even if it has to be masked? The larger the sensor the lower the production

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR

2005-06-01 Thread dagt
Why not try to be optimistic: They may have decided to drop the Nikon og Canon based full frame cameras in order to concentrate on the cooperation with Pentax for developing the 18MP 645D. That way they don't have to deal with the problems concerning FF and wide angles, as Pentax will be

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR - the end of FF dreams

2005-06-01 Thread Jostein
Quoting Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: FF is dead - long live APS-C! ;-) I think you're right. Now that the MedF systems are entering the market with cameras more suited for work outside studios, chances are they will put the FF high-pixel cameras in a squeeze. Jostein

Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-01 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On 6/1/05, Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO, Pentax desperately need IS/VR type technology to kill anything. Actually, they only need some nukes grin More good lenses, an MZ-S-like DSLR, accesoriesflashes - that will keep me away from the dark side. Uh, and money to buy them ;) Alex

Re: Battery Grip ist D

2005-06-01 Thread Michel Carrre-Ge
Charles Wilson a écrit : I just have got the battery grip for the ist D, it looks and feels wonderful. I have a couple of questions though. Does the switch on the top of the camera have to be on and the switch on the bottom of the grip have to be on for it to work. The controls on the

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR

2005-06-01 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Boris Liberman wrote: That's my point exactly. There seems to be a difficulty for camera manufacturers to produce so called full-frame DSLR. Difficulty? Expense, and particularly return on investment. Kodak was not selling lenses together with their body. Somehow I think

Re: SMC pentax 1:3.5 100 mm macro

2005-06-01 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Hans Imglueck wrote: It is very light and small. Price? Something above 100 Euros (in Germany) depending on state for the Pentax version - below 100 Euros for the Cosina version (though only the label is changed). Is the Cosina SMCed? Kostas

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR - the end of FF dreams

2005-06-01 Thread Toralf Lund
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Shel Belinkoff wrote on 01.06.05 1:34: Camera bodies are discontinued. Kodak will continue to develop CCD and CMOS image sensors. Here's the part that's most discouraging: Kodak will only support the cameras through 2008. So, the cameras are what, about a year

Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Henri Toivonen
I haven't seen this anywhere else, but someone found this on the swedish pentax site. It looks like another entry level model, targeted even lower than the DS. http://www.pentax.se/index.asp?url=http://www.pentax.se/default.asp?cat_id=491 6.1mpix, 2.8 frames/sec, 2.5 lcd, SD, PentaMIRROR,

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Henri Toivonen
Henri Toivonen wrote: I haven't seen this anywhere else, but someone found this on the swedish pentax site. It looks like another entry level model, targeted even lower than the DS. http://www.pentax.se/index.asp?url=http://www.pentax.se/default.asp?cat_id=491 6.1mpix, 2.8 frames/sec, 2.5

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR - the end of FF dreams

2005-06-01 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Jostein wrote on 01.06.05 10:11: I think you're right. Now that the MedF systems are entering the market with cameras more suited for work outside studios, chances are they will put the FF high-pixel cameras in a squeeze. Yup, it seems so. Pros demanding high resolution will choose portable MF

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread cbwaters
Henri, That link doesn't seem to work. Neither of them, actually. Cory - Original Message - From: Henri Toivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:12 AM Subject: Re: Pentax *ist-DL Henri Toivonen wrote: I haven't seen this anywhere

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR

2005-06-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
However, APS offerings continue to proliferate. Which probably indicates which way the DSLR market is going to go. Full frame sensors aren't as important as we once thought. And as the technology improves, they'll probably become less expensive. Even among Canon's high end offerings, only the S

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread David Sldek
http://81.92.66.63/index.asp?url=http://81.92.66.63/default.asp?cat_id=491 here is the correct link... DNS servers seem not to work - Original Message - From: Henri Toivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: Pentax *ist-DL

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR - the end of FF dreams

2005-06-01 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Toralf Lund wrote on 01.06.05 11:57: Hmmm... I've been thinking that camera producers are bound to increase the sensor size soon because the megapixel race won't stop, and sensor elements much smaller than the ones used today are quite pointless (as far as I understand - not due to the

Re: Full Frame - What's the problem?

2005-06-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
The size of the lens mount factors into the equation. The large sensor works on the 645 because it has a large lens mount. Ditto the Canon. Paul On Jun 1, 2005, at 3:17 AM, Cornelius Nuzzlemuff III wrote: Why is it seemingly so difficult to produce a camera with a full frame (35mm) sensor, if

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
David Sládek wrote on 01.06.05 12:33: http://81.92.66.63/index.asp?url=http://81.92.66.63/default.asp?cat_id=491 here is the correct link... DNS servers seem not to work Thanks David for IP :-) For me it seems to be just silver version of *istDs and nothing more... -- Balance is the ultimate

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR

2005-06-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
I meant to say, And as the sensor technology improves, full frame will probably become less important. On Jun 1, 2005, at 6:32 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: However, APS offerings continue to proliferate. Which probably indicates which way the DSLR market is going to go. Full frame sensors aren't

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread David Sldek
Well, it is downgraded with the AF points at least... It is a budget model and its price should beat both Cannon 350 and Nikon D50... - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:45 PM Subject: Re: Pentax

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: David Sládek wrote on 01.06.05 12:33: http://81.92.66.63/index.asp?url=http://81.92.66.63/default.asp?cat_id=491 here is the correct link... DNS servers seem not to work Thanks David for IP :-) For me it seems to be just silver version of

Re: Full Frame - What's the problem?

2005-06-01 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Paul Stenquist wrote: The size of the lens mount factors into the equation. The large sensor works on the 645 because it has a large lens mount. Ditto the Canon. So, is a FF sensor bigger in actual dimensions than film? Why the difference? Kostas (depth, that brings it

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Steve Jolly
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: I don't think the s had pentamirror, but I may be wrong. The DS has a pentaprism. However, according to the technical specs linked from that webpage*, so does the *istDL... S *assuming my attempts to interpret Swedish don't mislead me - I'm assuming prism

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
David Sládek wrote on 01.06.05 12:52: Well, it is downgraded with the AF points at least... Is there anything in this text about AF system? Sorry, I don't understand Swedish so I couldn't find this info :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote on 01.06.05 12:56: I don't think the s had pentamirror, but I may be wrong. Does pentaprismasökare mean pentamirror? Who speaks Swedish here? -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek

SV: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Eriksson Paulus
It means penta prism viewfinder. Paul Eriksson -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skickat: den 1 juni 2005 13:15 Till: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Ämne: Re: Pentax *ist-DL Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote on 01.06.05 12:56: I don't think the s had

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote on 01.06.05 12:56: I don't think the s had pentamirror, but I may be wrong. Does pentaprismasökare mean pentamirror? Who speaks Swedish here? I think that's what Henri (the OP) suggested. I think his surname is Finnish

Re: SV: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Eriksson Paulus wrote on 01.06.05 13:16: It means penta prism viewfinder. Thanks Paul!!! So aparrently this is not pentamirror as some suggested :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote on 01.06.05 13:19: I think that's what Henri (the OP) suggested. I think his surname is Finnish :-) http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss@pdml.net/msg253937.html I think Paul knows better as he comes from polypeptide.SE ;-)

Re: Full Frame - What's the problem?

2005-06-01 Thread Frantisek
Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 12:57:43 PM, Kostas wrote: KK On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Paul Stenquist wrote: The size of the lens mount factors into the equation. The large sensor works on the 645 because it has a large lens mount. Ditto the Canon. KK So, is a FF sensor bigger in actual dimensions than

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does pentaprismasökare mean pentamirror? Who speaks Swedish here? It means pentaprism viewfinder. -tih -- Don't ascribe to stupidity what can be adequately explained by ignorance.

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Tom Ivar Helbekkmo wrote on 01.06.05 13:31: It means pentaprism viewfinder. Thanks Tom :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
And the price is... Regards, Bob S. On 6/1/05, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo wrote on 01.06.05 13:31: It means pentaprism viewfinder. Thanks Tom :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread David Sldek
Well, yes. I don´t speak Swedish either but as far as I follow the dpreview talk the AF will have only three instead of 11 focusing points (not known in what possition). - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June

Later folks

2005-06-01 Thread Bill Owens
I'll be unsubbing shortly and head for GFM. For those of you who are coming, I look forward to seeing all of you. Bill

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Jostein
The L looks like yet another attempt to compete for entry level customers coming from digital compacts. What's odd, though, is that there are no other pages at the Swedish Pentax site pointing to this particular page. No press, no news, no product spec... Looks like an info leak. :-) Jostein

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Jostein wrote: Looks like an info leak. :-) I was looking for the 1 April date, but it was nowhere to be seen :-) Kostas

back from the UK

2005-06-01 Thread Amita Guha
Yesterday I got back from my week in the UK. I spent most of my time in London, but on Saturday, Nate and I went to Oxford to hang out with Cotty, Alma, Godfrey and a couple of Godfrey's friends from the DPreview boards. It was great to finally meet Cotty - he's a gentle giant! :) Alma was very

digital zoom?

2005-06-01 Thread Amita Guha
I had an interesting week shooting in London. My kit performed as expected and I didn't miss my macro, but I think my needs for travel in a city are different than those in the country. In a nutshell, I think I need something like an 18-75 or slightly greater zoom, and I wouldn't mind getting a

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR - the end of FF dreams

2005-06-01 Thread Toralf Lund
Toralf Lund wrote on 01.06.05 11:57: Hmmm... I've been thinking that camera producers are bound to increase the sensor size soon because the megapixel race won't stop, and sensor elements much smaller than the ones used today are quite pointless (as far as I understand - not due to the

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR - the end of FF dreams

2005-06-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Sylwek, I think the main issue here is like this. Imagine for a moment, just for sake of this discussion, that Pentax or Minolta are considering investing into development of FF DSLR, but still on the marketing level. Now they read the news. What would they say - these guys at Kodak are not

Re: digital zoom?

2005-06-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Amita, will 24-90 do? And it would not have to be digital only lens... What about 24-135 offerings by Tamron et al? -- Boris

Re: peso: Stupid dog picture.

2005-06-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Is Mr Robb being silly again? ;-) -- Boris

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Toralf Lund
David Sládek wrote: Well, yes. I don´t speak Swedish either but as far as I follow the dpreview talk the AF will have only three instead of 11 focusing points (not known in what possition). From the technical specs:* Autofokus* TTL (SAFOX VIII) kontrastavkännande autofokus med 3-punkter

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Looks like web preparation in advance of a new product announcement got indexed though it is not directly linked to. Shame on the web admin! Sincerely, Collin Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Toralf Lund wrote on 01.06.05 14:16: Meaning 3 point or spot autofocus... So it seems Pentax was left with a stock of used in MZ-5N/6 Safox IV circuits... -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek

street shooting lens

2005-06-01 Thread Amita Guha
While I was in London this past week, I tried to do some street portraits, but I wasn't very successful. I think part of the problem was that my zoom was too obvious when extended to 75mm. Also, 75mm didn't reach quite far enough. Nate got some good candids with his Canon 85mm prime. The barrel

I too will be headed to GFMtn.

2005-06-01 Thread Cesar
I have had difficulty keeping up with the list, what with my being away for the weekend. I will respond to some, but of course it will be late. I will unsubscribe later today since I hope to be headed to Grandfather Mountain in time to find its gate open tomorrow. I still do not know if I

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR - the end of FF dreams

2005-06-01 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Boris Liberman wrote on 01.06.05 14:12: Sylwek, I think the main issue here is like this. Imagine for a moment, just for sake of this discussion, that Pentax or Minolta are considering investing into development of FF DSLR, but still on the marketing level. Now they read the news. What would

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR - the end of FF dreams

2005-06-01 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Boris Liberman wrote: Sylwek, I think the main issue here is like this. Imagine for a moment, just for sake of this discussion, that Pentax or Minolta are Or Nikon :-) considering investing into development of FF DSLR, but still on the marketing level. Now they read the

Re: digital zoom?

2005-06-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
When I want to travel light, I carry the Pentax DA 16-45/5 (a great lens) and the Pentax FA 28-105/3.2-4.5 (a very good lens). Paul On Jun 1, 2005, at 8:14 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Amita, will 24-90 do? And it would not have to be digital only lens... What about 24-135 offerings by Tamron et

Re: PESO:first impressions from Mt. Pilatus

2005-06-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
Can't say about PanoraMaker in this regard, as I've never stitched with anything wider than about 28mm. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 31, 2005 9:39 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO:first impressions from Mt. Pilatus all

Re: street shooting lens

2005-06-01 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I've always used either a 40mm or 50mm. But then, this is not my field. If you want something a little long and modestly priced take a look at the M or A 100/2.8 offerings. The M is just a little over $100, and not too much more for the A100/2.8 Sincerely, Collin

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Henri Toivonen
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote on 01.06.05 13:19: I think that's what Henri (the OP) suggested. I think his surname is Finnish :-) http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss@pdml.net/msg253937.html I think Paul knows better as he comes from polypeptide.SE ;-)

Re: street shooting lens

2005-06-01 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Amita Guha wrote: I don't really feel like springing for the FA 85mm (and it's backordered anyway). Can anyone suggest an alternative lens or focal length or whatever? SMC Pentax-M 85/2. We are talking small and light here. On the zoom front, have you considered the cheapo

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR - the end of FF dreams

2005-06-01 Thread Toralf Lund
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Boris Liberman wrote on 01.06.05 14:12: Sylwek, I think the main issue here is like this. Imagine for a moment, just for sake of this discussion, that Pentax or Minolta are considering investing into development of FF DSLR, but still on the marketing level. Now

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR - the end of FF dreams

2005-06-01 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Toralf Lund wrote on 01.06.05 14:33: Or maybe the Nikon would still have sold more than the Kodak even if they had swapped sensors? Differently put, don't you think the Nikon sold more than the Kodak just because the Nikon is a Nikon and the Kodak is, well, not a Nikon, or a Canon, or even a

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR - the end of FF dreams

2005-06-01 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Toralf Lund wrote: Or maybe the Nikon would still have sold more than the Kodak even if they had swapped sensors? Differently put, don't you think the Nikon sold more than the Kodak just because the Nikon is a Nikon and the Kodak is, well, not a Nikon, or a Canon, or even

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Henri Toivonen
Steve Jolly wrote: Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: I don't think the s had pentamirror, but I may be wrong. The DS has a pentaprism. However, according to the technical specs linked from that webpage*, so does the *istDL... S *assuming my attempts to interpret Swedish don't mislead me -

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Michael Bergstrom
Eriksson Paulus wrote on 01.06.05 13:16: It means penta prism viewfinder. Thanks Paul!!! So aparrently this is not pentamirror as some suggested :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek Excepet that in the 'Tekniska Specifikationer' it states: Prisma med pentaspeglar med

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Henri Toivonen
Michael Bergstrom wrote: Eriksson Paulus wrote on 01.06.05 13:16: It means penta prism viewfinder. Thanks Paul!!! So aparrently this is not pentamirror as some suggested :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek Excepet that in the 'Tekniska

Re: street shooting lens

2005-06-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Amita, I generally use my 35 mm and 50 mm lenses for such kind of shooting. Still, I may suggest Tamron 90/2.5 (the old one) that is both very nice and very small, compared say to Pentax FA 100/2.8. It is however a bit heavy, but still lighter than FA 100/2.8... -- Boris

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR - the end of FF dreams

2005-06-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! You assume that the news were unexpected or inexplicable to them; I am not sure about that. You see, these people are no little-Kostases[1] with all talk and no walk asking for a FF solution yesterday or else. They know how much what costs and how far they can go, and make their

FS: Pentax PZ-1p body, just serviced by Pentax

2005-06-01 Thread Joe Wilensky
I ended up with two PZ-1p bodies, thinking a backup would be smart, but it reality the second one just won't get any use as I'm trying to balance increasing digital use with a well-populated stable of beautiful film bodies stretching back to the pre-Spotmatic era. This was a PZ-1p I picked up

Re: More Pentax Sightings

2005-06-01 Thread Dave Kennedy
I noticed a billboard just outside of Perth (Ontario) when I was driving by last weekend. Picture shows a hand picking up a DS, and some comments about reasons to buy Pentax. I think it was the same as in the full page add in this month's Photo Life. (I don't have it here at work, or I'd give

Re: Pentax *ist-DL

2005-06-01 Thread Michael Bergstrom
Michael Bergstrom wrote: Eriksson Paulus wrote on 01.06.05 13:16: It means penta prism viewfinder. Thanks Paul!!! So aparrently this is not pentamirror as some suggested :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek Excepet that in the 'Tekniska Specifikationer' it states: Prisma

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR

2005-06-01 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Rob Studdert wrote: More FF market share for Canon and hopefully price drops along the way or Price drops in a monopoly? How and why? Kostas

RE: digital zoom?

2005-06-01 Thread Amita Guha
Amita, will 24-90 do? I'm not sure it would be wide enough. I like to shoot architecture. And it would not have to be digital only lens... What about 24-135 offerings by Tamron et al? That would be great, but I need a wider angle of view. My Tam 28-75 was perfect in most situations, but I

OT: Lithium AA's if manual doesn't specify?

2005-06-01 Thread Joe Wilensky
I've picked up a small digital point-and-shoot (not Pentax), and it takes AA batteries. The manual mentions using alkalines and recommends NiMH rechargeable AA batteries, but says not a word about using lithium AA batteries. This is a fairly current camera (2004, discontinued this year). Is

FS: Lovely Super Program, Motor Drive A, lens available

2005-06-01 Thread Joe Wilensky
For sale: A lovely Super Program that has seen light use and is a joy to use. EX condition. Front finger grip, body cap, strap and original Pentax manual included. Also FS: an EX+ condition Motor Drive A. Remote cap is present, all is excellent and working fine. Original Pentax manual

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR

2005-06-01 Thread Pl Jensen
Dag wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:07 AM Subject: Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR Why not try to be optimistic: They may have decided to drop the Nikon og Canon based full frame cameras in order to

Re: Rumors About Pentax's Future

2005-06-01 Thread Pl Jensen
William wrote: The Nikon rep estimated that something like 5% of F3 cameras were in the hands of pro photographers, the rest were owned by well heeled amateurs. I've heard the same number for the F5. However, the Pentax distributor here in Norway says that 50% of Pentax MF are sold to

Re: Rumors About Pentax's Future

2005-06-01 Thread Pl Jensen
Paul wrote: There's a world of price differentiation between and F3 and the 645D. Yeah, hobbyists will use a 645 system that they purchased for a grand or so. But will they come up with close to 10K for a digital body? Some say it will be much more. I doubt it. If there's no pro market

Re: Full Frame - What's the problem?

2005-06-01 Thread Pl Jensen
Cornelius wrote: ? Why is it seemingly so difficult to produce a camera with a full frame (35mm) sensor, if Pentax and many others have/will have MF digitals surely one of these sensors could be used, even if it has to be masked? Cost and problem with performance at the corners due to

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR

2005-06-01 Thread Pl Jensen
Bruce wrote: Bill, that is shocking! I used to use 67II's and did NOT think they were light or small. At least it had a big negative. That Canon is one BIG camera for having a sensor of that size. Yes...and it makes the Pentax 645 system look small... Pål

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR - the end of FF dreams

2005-06-01 Thread Pl Jensen
Jostein wrote: I think you're right. Now that the MedF systems are entering the market with cameras more suited for work outside studios, chances are they will put the FF high-pixel cameras in a squeeze. Thats what I think too. If the price rumors are correct it will cost less than a full

Re: Seen in this week's Amateur Photographer...

2005-06-01 Thread Pl Jensen
Jostein wrote: I think the most likely conspiracy theory is that Pentax Japan is holding their cards to tightly to their chest as usual. Pentax UK sounds like they don't know what's coming, so they choose to focus on the past. Pentax Japan is extremely inept at making use of buzz for

Re: Rumors About Pentax's Future

2005-06-01 Thread Pl Jensen
Herb wrote: 66K DSLRs is 2/3 of what Kodak sold last year and Kodak is pulling the plug on their DSLRs. Kodak's DSLRs were a lot more expensive than any Pentax one and they still outsold Pentax. since the Pentax DSLRs are low end models, Pentax isn't making much money on them. Sure. The

re: street shooting lens

2005-06-01 Thread oscar . 7300
Amita, My wife and I sometimes use the Pentax 1.7x AF converter with a 50mm 1.4 M lens. A little slow, but pretty small, relatively fast AF, and uses what we have without buying an 85mm. Steve street shooting lens Amita Guha Wed, 01 Jun 2005 05:25:41 -0700 While I was in London this

Re: OT: Kodak kills DSLR

2005-06-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 1 Jun 2005 at 14:10, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Rob Studdert wrote: More FF market share for Canon and hopefully price drops along the way or Price drops in a monopoly? How and why? Just my intuition. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110

RE: Full Frame - What's the problem?

2005-06-01 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I don't think the size of the lens mount matters at all, it's the size of the len's image circle that matters with regards to sensor size, not the diameter of the lens mount. jco -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:40 AM To:

Re: Rumors About Pentax's Future

2005-06-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Ha, so you might think. Never underestimate the genus of cost cutting... Anthony Farr wrote: All 645 lenses are A series or higher. IOW there's no old lenses without electronic feedback that can be crippled. regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling

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