DA 18-55

2006-09-25 Thread Patrick Genovese
I'm considering whether or not to get a DA 18-55 as a Kit with a K10D (my dealer gave me a very reasonable price for a kit) ? What the general take on the optical quality / build quality etc I would go for the 16-50 but its too long to wait and i need someting that gives me a 28mm equiv now

RE: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Bob W
> > Like Bob W, I have had an Arab girl friend (see May 05 PUG), My girlfriend was not Arabic, she was Bangladeshi. > and you could > not find (or I could not find) a more charming, normal, and > civilised > human being. ditto > Generalising about Muslims is as futile as > generalisin

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Cotty
On 24/9/06, Vic Mortelmans, discombobulated, unleashed: >Anyway, this is my (little) story... I'd like to hear some reaction to >that! Maybe this forum numbers some muslim photographers? That would be >really interesting! Tough one. I was filming at a carnival a few months ago and loads of par

RE: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Bob W
> > > No - this is absolutely not true, and a very dangerous > idea. There are > > several generations of Muslims who have been born in > Britain, to take > > just one example. Where are they free to leave to? This is their > > country, which is based on tolerance and respect for other people. >

Re: DA 18-55

2006-09-25 Thread Peter Fairweather
Dear Patrick After managing with my Sigma 12-24 for the wide angle shots, I eventually bought a new 18-55mm. It's light, easy to use and takes great shots. I hesitated on the 16-45mm like you are on the new 16-50. The clinching argument was the 6 fold increase in price £300+versus £50. I dread to

Re: DA 18-55

2006-09-25 Thread Thibouille
Get it. It is cheap and for the price of it, quite good actually. I use it with DA50-200 and FA50/1.4 as my main lenses. For tis price, it is more or less unbeatable IMO. Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discus

Re: PESO: Le Portel (Photosight.ru)

2006-09-25 Thread mike wilson
The last few times I have accessed Photosight, it has activated the popup blocker (at home) or (at work) brought up advertising screens. This time, it triggered the anti-virus software. I won't be going back there. > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralf R. Radermacher) > Date: 2006/09/24 Sun PM 10:

Some "soft" photos

2006-09-25 Thread dao_
Hello, May be this will be interesting to somebody. Some months ago I bought Pentax F-85/2.8 Soft lens, and I have to say that I do love this lens! As I know the opinions about this lens is quite different. I'd like to show some photos taken by it. As I can see it can be used for the diff

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Cotty
On 24/9/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >I recall on one of the visits I made to SF with someone from the PDML >there was a woman with a rather flamboyant outfit sitting at the cafe >as we passed, talking with her daughter. I made a quiet exposure of >the scene and was movi

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/9/06, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: >Personally I do tend to respect religious preference. Can I correct this sentence. It should say: I do tend to respect personal preference. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnap

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 24, 2006, at 5:19 PM, Vic Mortelmans wrote: > On the other hand, I feel uncomfertable that a couple of muslim people > mingling in a crowd can prohibit me to take pictures. What if I would > have been photographing my 2 year old son running around through the > street and they happened to

Re: Related question to off camera flash

2006-09-25 Thread Brian Dunn
>What I found was the smaller flashes just > didn't have enough power. Silvered umbrellas help a bit ( Photogenic Eclipse, I think they are called... ). I get around F8 at ISO 200 with two silvered umbrellas at a resonable working distance for small groups. GN 120 flashes, Vivitar 285 HVs.

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you must feel very insecure about your own views and your society. Not about my views but very much about society. I see that the whole planet is being transformed into one giant police state. I see that our established politicians are messing up our democracy

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 25, 2006, at 5:46 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: >> you must feel very insecure about your own views and your society. > > Not about my views but very much about society. > > I see that the whole planet is being transformed into one giant police > state. I see that our established politici

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread David Savage
Man this thread is great. It's got "The Big 2", religion & politics. All it needs now is some foul language, nudity, sex, gratuitous violence, greased animals and I could die a happy man. Keep it coming people. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listi

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread vic_mortelmans
Hi, Not mentioned it in my post, but actually I put my camera down and didn't shoot the picture with the women in it. But frankly, I don't intend to wander through the city with my camera, frame something interesting and each time have to check: "oh, would there be any muslim people in my fra

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/24/2006 5:50:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The big problem with Islam is that Muslims believe that the Koran is the actual word of God, and therefore must be correct and must be taken literally. [snip] Like Bob W, I have had an Arab girl friend (

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: >All it needs now is some >foul language, nudity, sex, gratuitous violence, greased animals Cue William Robb, back in the nick of time. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnap

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 25, 2006, at 5:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Not mentioned it in my post, but actually I put my camera down and > didn't shoot the picture with the women in it. > > But frankly, I don't intend to wander through the city with my > camera, frame something interesting and each time ha

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 25, 2006, at 5:59 AM, David Savage wrote: > It's got "The Big 2", religion & politics. All it needs now is some > foul language, nudity, sex, gratuitous violence, greased animals and I > could die a happy man. Yes, is it OK to photograph people who are having sex nude in a public place

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Jostein Øksne
I'm late into this debate, so most has been said already. I agree with those who emphasize the diversity of muslims as a group, and that there may have been personal reasons for the lady in question to dislike her picture taken. At the moment I think also that many european muslims feel a bit stig

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 25, 2006, at 6:17 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: > At the moment I think also that many european muslims feel a bit > stigmatised by the actions from extremists of their faith. If I was in > their situation, I think it would amplify my dislike of having a > camera pointed in my direction. At th

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread vic_mortelmans
Hello Feroze, >I'm a Muslim photographer, I've paid off most of my photographic gear by >shooting mainly muslim weddings and other functions. There are 4 schools >of though in Islam and depending on which one you belong to would either >forbid all photography or have entire albums full of fami

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/9/06, Bob Shell, discombobulated, unleashed: > They really made the >picture, so I snapped a couple of shots. One of them took umbrage at >this and came over to me and began berating me in Italian, wagging >her finger at me. I don't know any Italian, so I don't know what she >was say

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, is it OK to photograph people who are having sex nude in a > public place while swearing at the tops of their lungs and beating > greased ferrets about the head? Do you want to kill him? ;-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread vic_mortelmans
>I think you should ask yourself two questions: >1) If the woman had been a member of some Christian or Jewish sect, and has >made known her displeasure at being photographed, would you have been equally >outraged, more outraged or less outraged? First consideration: christian people and (most

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread vic_mortelmans
Hi Boris, >2. There are very diverse and peculiar customs about being photographed. >I can only speak for Judaism and people of Israel. Here are few examples: >a. It is forbidden to be photographed on Saturday (Shabbat) and >holidays. If I were to go to the place where many observing Jews crowd

Re: Noise Performance

2006-09-25 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006, Mark Roberts wrote: > mike wilson wrote: > >> Mark Roberts wrote: >> >>> Staying with Pentax apparently the only way we will see a lager >>> sensor >> >> Things are bound to come to a head. > > I was waiting for this thread to g

Test

2006-09-25 Thread Robert and Leigh Woerner
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Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread P. J. Alling
You forgot guns... David Savage wrote: >Man this thread is great. > >It's got "The Big 2", religion & politics. All it needs now is some >foul language, nudity, sex, gratuitous violence, greased animals and I >could die a happy man. > >Keep it coming people. > > > >Dave > > > -- Things shoul

Pre-Photokina: Pentax 645 Digital camera

2006-09-25 Thread Roman
http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=NewsDesk_Internal&article_num=092506-1 The Pentax 645 Digital will accept interchangealbe 645AF mount lenses and will sport an 18MP sensor. It will be continuously upgraded by in

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread David Savage
I didn't forget them. It's just that you guy's are freaks. Dave On 9/25/06, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 25/09/06, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You forgot guns... > > ...and drugs... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/l

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 25/09/06, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You forgot guns... ...and drugs... -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax

Re: Bypass Gueese

2006-09-25 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Bruce. Jack --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Really like this shot. I am trying to determine if it feels > oversharpened or not. Could just be me in this instance. In any > event, this is quite excellent. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > > Saturday, September 23, 20

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/09/25 Mon AM 10:15:47 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Street photography - religious objections > > > On Sep 25, 2006, at 5:59 AM, David Savage wrote: > > > It's got "The Big 2", religion & politics. All it needs now is so

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread John Forbes
With respect, saying that Muslims believe that the Koran is the actual word of God is not a generalisation. It is a central tenet of the faith. John On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:06:08 +0100, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a message dated 9/24/2006 5:50:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: DA 18-55

2006-09-25 Thread Jack Davis
If I may jump in? FWIW, at the request of a local photo shop, I did a lens test (carefully, but not clinically) comparing the 18-55 to a Promaster (Tamron, per the shop owner) of a similar range. The Promaster is, of course, a very inexpensive lens, but the Pentax image superiority was striking. Th

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Jostein Øksne
On 9/25/06, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At the moment I think also that many American Christians feel a bit > stigmatised by the actions from extremists of their faith. > > Se la vie. We live in interesting times. :-( Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml

Re: DA 18-55

2006-09-25 Thread Patrick Genovese
Hi guys thanks for the feedback it looks like this is a pukka little optic built in true pentax tradition. My dealer is offering it as kit with the K10D & K100D i'm tempted to take up the offer. Rgds On 9/25/06, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I may jump in? FWIW, at the request of a

Re: DA 18-55

2006-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It's light, it's small, and it's remarkably good for the money. I didn't like the speed ... f/5.6 maximum aperture at 55mm is just that little bit too slow for my needs ... but it's a pretty good performer for the price point. The FA20-35/4 AL does a better job for me, its almost a prime r

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 25, 2006, at 6:05 AM, mike wilson wrote: >>> It's got "The Big 2", religion & politics. All it needs now is some >>> foul language, nudity, sex, gratuitous violence, greased animals >>> and I >>> could die a happy man. >> >> Yes, is it OK to photograph people who are having sex nude in a

PDML Mini-FAQ Link

2006-09-25 Thread gray_wolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 25, 2006, at 3:25 AM, Cotty wrote: >> They really made the >> picture, so I snapped a couple of shots. One of them took umbrage at >> this and came over to me and began berating me in Italian, wagging >> her finger at me. I don't know any Italian, so I don't know what she >> was saying, >

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/09/25 Mon PM 02:06:33 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Street photography - religious objections > > > On Sep 25, 2006, at 6:05 AM, mike wilson wrote: > > >>> It's got "The Big 2", religion & politics. All it needs n

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The proper American Response is to stare back at them and yell back > in English, but louder: "What Are You Trying To Say?" I've found that Hungarian is much more universal (as in universally incrompehensible) for this purpose. Works with beggars, b

Re: OT - off camera flash

2006-09-25 Thread Scott Loveless
Thanks for all the replies, folks. Much appreciated. I've actually ruled out the SB-26, simply because I don't want or need the slave. When I get to the point that I need wireless flash, I'll probably just get a 360 or 540. I'm basically down to the 383 or the SB-24. Thanks Godfrey and Adam! I

Re: DA 18-55

2006-09-25 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! > It's light, it's small, and it's remarkably good for the money. I > didn't like the speed ... f/5.6 maximum aperture at 55mm is just that > little bit too slow for my needs ... but it's a pretty good performer > for the price point. > > The FA20-35/4 AL does a better job for me, its almost a

Re: Bypass Gueese

2006-09-25 Thread Christian
Jack Davis wrote: > (wonder how many pounds of poop are in the air at any one time?):-/ > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=187 That's a "shitload" of snow geese. why "gueese" in the subject line? -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Ma

Re: Bypass Gueese

2006-09-25 Thread Jack Davis
Because "Spell Check" does not allow for Subject line stupidity! :-) Jack --- Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jack Davis wrote: > > (wonder how many pounds of poop are in the air at any one time?):-/ > > > > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=187 > > That's a "shitlo

Re: Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Juan Buhler
On 9/25/06, Ralf R. Radermacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've found that Hungarian is much more universal (as in universally > incrompehensible) for this purpose. Works with beggars, bullies, [...] http://youtube.com/watch?v=09XBFXOaskw My hovercraft is full of eels... :) j -- Juan Buhler

Re: PentaxUSA Strikes Again!

2006-09-25 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006, Joseph Tainter wrote: > Wow! The depth of their knowledge is astounding. Similar to my queries re the AF540FGZ. I am wondering if these people actually exist or if a machine picks up random phrases from existing marketing material that matches parts of your question. Obviou

Pre-Photokina: New DSLR from FujiFilm

2006-09-25 Thread Roman
Pre-Photokina: New pro DSLR from Fujifilm Adorama (press release) - New York,USA Fuji announced today that it is developing its next-generation professional DSLR, the FinePix S5 Pro. Based on the Nikon D200 body *... h

PentaxUSA Strikes Again!

2006-09-25 Thread Joseph Tainter
I asked: "Will the DA 70 be able to accept filters in the lens hood,like the DA 21 and DA 40? If so, what will the filter diameter be?" And Pentax USA responded: "Thank you for contacting Pentax. The DA series lenses are designed for the Pentax Digital SLR camera bodies, and the digital SLR h

Re: PESO - Radiance

2006-09-25 Thread Christian
Tom C wrote: > Up late last night. There was a minor geomagnetic storm in progress, > producing auroras at lower latitudes than is typical. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4987942 > > Tom C. Wow. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail Li

Re: PESO - Coronmant (b

2006-09-25 Thread Christian
Mark Roberts wrote: > P. J. Alling wrote: > > >>It sounds like it's time to post Coronmant Times again... > > > http://www.robertstech.com/temp/cormorant-times.jpg > GODDAM! That's a beautiful shot! :-D -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDM

Re: PESO - Coronmant (b

2006-09-25 Thread Christian
Cotty wrote: > On 24/9/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >>http://www.robertstech.com/temp/cormorant-times.jpg > > > LOL > > Haven't seen that for a while, thanks for posting. All credit to > Christian for a cracking shot. > Thanks, Cot! I've got a 20"x30" print of that righ

Re: PESO - candle experiment

2006-09-25 Thread Rick Womer
Brutally, honestly, all I can say is... I like it. Nice color, composition; the differences between the two flames is intriguing too. Rick --- Russell Kerstetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Had this candle burning and thought I'd take a > picture. It turned out > better than I was expecting,

Re: PESO: Le Portel

2006-09-25 Thread Christian
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: > First of all a disclaimer, since one can never be too cautious about > such things in our days: this picture shows graffity which may include > "non-office-friendly" language. You have been warned. *sigh* > > http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1664522 > > Your

Re: Pop Photo Interview mp3

2006-09-25 Thread Toine
If I heard it correctly: No weather sealed lenses in the near future. He also claims it's easy to protect normal lenses for rain etc when mounted on the k10d. Now I'm wondering how to do that??? He also claims Pentax has a PC sync adapter in its portfolio. Which adapter? My Pentax flash adapters ar

Re: OT - off camera flash

2006-09-25 Thread Adam Maas
Scott, If you aren't already reading it, you should check out strobist.blogspot.com which has all sorts of info on doing off-camera flash on the cheap. -Adam Scott Loveless wrote: > Thanks for all the replies, folks. Much appreciated. I've actually > ruled out the SB-26, simply because I don

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
You know, I really hate it when I read comments like this. People have every right to object to being photographed, even though it may be true that in certain circumstances the photographer may "legally" photograph them. If a person doesn't want to be photographed, then I think the photographer sh

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Fuck you Dave ... happier? Now where's my sheep? Shel > [Original Message] > From: David Savage > Man this thread is great. > > It's got "The Big 2", religion & politics. All it needs now is some > foul language, nudity, sex, gratuitous violence, greased animals and I > could die a happy ma

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Adam Maas
Shel, You are right that they have every right to object (Part of the entire 'Freedom of Speech' thing) although there is no concordant requirement for the Photographer to respect that objection beyond courtesy. -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: > You know, I really hate it when I read comments lik

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Kenneth Waller
> Here in the USA we have the so-called "fundamentalist Christians" seeking > to take away our > rights Just what rights are the fundamentalist Christians seeking to take away from you ? Kenneth Waller --- Original Message - From: "Bob Shell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Street

Re: 70mm LE filters (was PentaxUSA Strikes Again!)

2006-09-25 Thread Bertil Holmberg
The 70mm limited uses 49mm filters. Please see this fact sheet http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/lens/ index35_long.html#10 Bertil -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO - candle experiment

2006-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I like it too. I'd probably go even more radical and crop it tighter and square... ;-) Godfrey On Sep 24, 2006, at 6:28 PM, Russell Kerstetter wrote: > Had this candle burning and thought I'd take a picture. It turned out > better than I was expecting, what do you think? Any suggestions or >

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Sep 25, 2006, at 6:05 AM, mike wilson wrote: > It's got "The Big 2", religion & politics. All it needs now is some foul language, nudity, sex, gratuitous violence, greased animals and I could die a happy man. >>> Yes, is it OK to photograph people

Re: Pre-Photokina: New DSLR from FujiFilm

2006-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 25, 2006, at 8:22 AM, Roman wrote: > op=NewsDesk_Internal&article_num=092506-4> > Fuji announced today that it is developing its next-generation > professional DSLR, the FinePix S5 Pro. Based on the Nikon D200 body > *... Was reading about this one

Re: PESO - Radiance

2006-09-25 Thread Tom C
Thanks Christian and Ken... Tom C. >From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: PESO - Radiance >Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:30:37 -0400 > >Tom C wrote: > > Up late last night. There was a minor geomagnetic storm in progre

RE: SD Cards: what to buy?

2006-09-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Joe, I'm always looking for a balance between price, value, and quality. Right now, I think the 1GB and 2GB Transcend cards @ newegg fill the bill perfectly. Next month it may be different. New egg, BTW, has a great rating at http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2121.html - better even than B&H

Mini PDML LONDON

2006-09-25 Thread Cotty
Just a heads up - looks like a mini PDML get together in London (UK) on Sunday October 15th. Time: TBA Location: TBA Occasion: Godfrey's UK Tour Names here please 1. Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Face Detection Technology by Fuji

2006-09-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Ditto. Not knowing how it works adds to the mystery of why it's needed. Anyone have any thoughts on the matter? I think some other cameras have this as well. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > Why I would need a camera to detect faces > remains a question mark for me.

PESO - Something Old

2006-09-25 Thread Bruce Dayton
A bit of a departure for me. This was taken in San Francisco at a memorial for a battleship. There was a piece of the ship hull as part of the memorial and this item was bolted to it. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 45mm ISO 200, 1/90 sec @ f/6.7 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3321bw.htm Commen

Re: K10D sample images

2006-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Had the moment last night to put up a couple of samples for you. The only processing done to these two image files' full-rez rendering was RAW conversion with Camera Raw v3.5 to the parameters shown. The .DNG files are also provided for you to fool with if you desire. http://homepage.mac.c

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/9/06, Ralf R. Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: > >I've found that Hungarian is much more universal (as in universally >incrompehensible) for this purpose. Works with beggars, bullies, >policemen, parking wardens and nutters of all kinds. This is true:

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread DagT
I´m not muslim (or much of anything religious at all) but my brother has family in the largest muslim state in the world, Indonesia. I´ve been there and taken picturesin the streets, and it was no problem. Thus I think any objections may be seen as more cultural than religious dependent,

Re: PESO: SMC-FA 2.0 24mm AL IF

2006-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Both widely criticized and widely defended, it seems. My reservations about this lens is that in the DSLR community there have been very polarized testimonials about its performance. Some love it and find little issue with wide open sharpness or CA. Others find that they need to stop it dow

Re: Pre-Photokina: New DSLR from FujiFilm

2006-09-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/9/06, Roman, discombobulated, unleashed: >Pre-Photokina: New pro DSLR from Fujifilm > >Adorama (press release) - New York,USA >Fuji announced today that it is developing its next-generation >professional DSLR, t

Buy with confidence

2006-09-25 Thread Peter Jordan
I know we're not supposed to post live auctions, but I feel nobody on the list will be going for this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pentax-K-Mount-SMC-M-50MM-f1-2-superb-condition_W0QQitemZ200031144040QQihZ010QQcategoryZ4688QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I think this is a case of a little knowledge being a danger

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Man this thread is great. > > It's got "The Big 2", religion & politics. All it needs now is some > foul language, nudity, sex, gratuitous violence, greased animals and I > could die a happy man. > > Keep it coming people. > Wait, let me get some more popcorn. >

RE: Mini PDML LONDON

2006-09-25 Thread Bob W
I'm in (not in the morning, though. I observe a strict religious practice every Sunday morning of being beaten to a sweaty stain in a squash court, and left praying for mercy). -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Cotty

Re: DA 18-55

2006-09-25 Thread Thibouille
The thing is, the 18-55 does have the clutch to allow focus retouch :) Of course FAJ does cover 3(mm, the DA doesn't. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/l

Re: Buy with confidence

2006-09-25 Thread Gonz
Ouch. Someone is getting a nasty surprise. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I know we're not supposed to post live auctions, but I feel nobody on the > list will be going for this > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pentax-K-Mount-SMC-M-50MM-f1-2-superb-condition_W0QQitemZ200031144040QQihZ010QQcategoryZ4688QQrd

Re: Buy with confidence

2006-09-25 Thread Doug Miles
A common error, mis-reading 1:2 as meaning f/1.2 whereas it's actually f/2.0. The auction text is false and misleading in that regard. Fortunately, the auction has ended, the seller having apparently discovered the error: "The seller ended this listing early because of an error in the listing." Do

RE: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Bob W
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of David Savage > Sent: 25 September 2006 11:00 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Street photography - religious objections > > Man this thread is great. > > It's got "The Big 2", religion &

RE: PESO - Something Old

2006-09-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hmmm it is a bit of a departure, but sort of in keeping with the irrigation valves you posted a while back. There's something very simple and straightforward about this pic, which I like, but the photo comes across as a bit to flat to really do much for me. A little bump in contrast with eit

Re: Mini PDML LONDON

2006-09-25 Thread John Forbes
Damn, I'm going to be in the IOM. Shame. John On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:20:38 +0100, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a heads up - looks like a mini PDML get together in London (UK) on > Sunday October 15th. > > Time: TBA > Location: TBA > Occasion: Godfrey's UK Tour > > Names here please >

Re: Street photography - religious objections

2006-09-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 25, 2006, at 12:35 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: > Just what rights are the fundamentalist Christians seeking to take > away > from you ? My right to be different from them. My right to photograph nudes without being stigmatized as a pornographer. My very right to exist. Bob -- PDML

Re: PESO - Something Old

2006-09-25 Thread Rick Womer
A rather radical departure for you, Bruce--inanimate -and- B&W. Unfortunately it doesn't do anything for me. There's not enough detail to hold my interest beyond wondering "what the hell is that thing, anyway?" I had missed the previous photo on your index page, though, which is lovely. Rick -

Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji

2006-09-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 25, 2006, at 1:16 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Ditto. Not knowing how it works adds to the mystery of why it's > needed. > Anyone have any thoughts on the matter? I think some other cameras > have > this as well. On the Fuji it allows you to quick-zoom in on the face to check for f

Re: Pre-Photokina: Pentax 645 Digital camera

2006-09-25 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 03:30:08PM +0300, Roman wrote: > http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=NewsDesk_Internal&article_num=092506-1 > > > The Pentax 645 Digital will accept interchangealbe 645AF mount lenses > and w

Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji

2006-09-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
So, what's the advantage of that compared to zooming with the lens? What's different? And so what? By the time you make the shot the facial expression is different, as might be the focus. What is etc? Is there more than just expression and focus that you'd want to check?Can you, or anyone, exp

Re: Mini PDML LONDON

2006-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I'll be there... John, I'll be on the IOM from the 27th to about the 5-7 Oct. If you're available, let's get together there. :-) Godfrey On Sep 25, 2006, at 11:20 AM, John Forbes wrote: > Damn, I'm going to be in the IOM. > > Shame. > > John > > On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:20:38 +0100, Cotty <[EMAIL

Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji

2006-09-25 Thread P. J. Alling
It's not needed. But they have the software to implement it somewhere, it's probably a fast efficient algorithm, so they added it to the camera to get a bullet point no one else has, rather than design in something actually useful. Shel Belinkoff wrote: >Ditto. Not knowing how it works adds

Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji

2006-09-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 25, 2006, at 3:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > It's not needed. But they have the software to implement it > somewhere, > it's probably a fast efficient algorithm, so they added it to the > camera > to get a bullet point no one else has, rather than design in something > actually useful.

Re: Mini PDML LONDON

2006-09-25 Thread Cotty
Just a heads up - looks like a mini PDML get together in London (UK) on Sunday October 15th. Time: TBA Location: TBA Occasion: Godfrey's UK Tour Names here please 1. Cotty 2. Bob W -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji

2006-09-25 Thread Frits Wüthrich
Perhaps optimize exposure for the skin, and AF on the eyes? So you can concentrate on the expression. Just a guess. On Monday 25 September 2006 21:10, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > So, what's the advantage of that compared to zooming with the lens? What's > different? And so what? By the time you mak

Re: 70mm LE filters (was PentaxUSA Strikes Again!)

2006-09-25 Thread jtainter
The 70mm limited uses 49mm filters. Bertil - Thank you, Bertil. I know that the DA 70 will use 49 mm filters. That is on the filter ring. My question was whether it can also use another size in the lens hood, as the 21 and 40 do. >From what I have seen of the lens hood, I believe the 70 w

Enablement, again :)

2006-09-25 Thread Vid Strpic
My K100D arrived today :) Will play with it some more when there's more light - it's night here now :( -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], IRC:[EMAIL PROTECTED], /bin/zsh. C|N>K Linux elanor 2.6.13-15.12-default #1 Thu Aug 24 11:23:58 UTC 2006 x86_64 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji

2006-09-25 Thread Kenneth Waller
Shel for me its just the dumbing down of photography that been going on for a while. Don't know if its good or bad. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Face Detection Technology by Fuji > Ditto. Not knowing how it works adds to the

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