Re: One more question about condensations

2007-11-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've experienced condensation many times in the summer when going out from a cool, dry air conditioned house into the hot, humid backyard. Condensation forms on the front lens element. I don't know if I get any inside. I never wipe it. I just let it sit until it clears up. It usually only

Re: One more question about condensations

2007-11-17 Thread Rick Womer
I've had condensation form in the viewfinder window, which is a bit of a nuisance. Like Paul, I've not had any form inside a lens, but that may be because I haven't exercised the lens (which would draw moist air inside it) until it has warmed up. I've done lots of winter shooting in which the

Re: One more question about condensations

2007-11-17 Thread Bob Sullivan
Boris, Don't obcess about this, just take some 'Baggies' with you and bag the camera upon entering warm, humid places from the cold. 'Baggies' are a product name here in the US for sandwich bags. They are thin plastic film and come in various sizes. They started in the sandwich bag size to

Re: PESO: A Steaming Cup of Holiday Cheer

2007-11-17 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul, Hands to big??! That's an enormous cup he's holding... more like a soup bowl. Good shot. I like the match between he colors of the shirt and cup. Client should be pleased... Regards, Bob S. On Nov 16, 2007 3:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Jack. It happens to be for a bank ad,

Re: PESO 2007 - 47f - GDG

2007-11-17 Thread Bob Sullivan
A fish! with a fortuitous red dot out in front! It is enlightening! Have a good day, Bob S. On Nov 16, 2007 12:41 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A gray day here so I thought I might find something light to lift the mood ...

OT - On yer bike

2007-11-17 Thread Cotty
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7098116.stm -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO -- Macroscian

2007-11-17 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dan, Interesting photo. The lighting makes it almost look like a minature model, not full size. Are those telescopes in the background? Regards, Bob S. On Nov 16, 2007 10:00 AM, Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing special; just a cool word that I wanted to illustrate:

Re: PESO 2007 - 47f - GDG

2007-11-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Filament of sole! :-) Thanks Bob. Godfrey On Nov 17, 2007, at 5:54 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: A fish! with a fortuitous red dot out in front! It is enlightening! Have a good day, Bob S. A gray day here so I thought I might find something light to lift the mood ...

Re: OT - On yer bike

2007-11-17 Thread Paul Sorenson
It certainly prompts questions about what people can and can't do behind closed doors with inanimate objects. Stay within the law...animate objects only. ;} -p Cotty wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7098116.stm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT - On yer bike

2007-11-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It is an idiotic world, and getting moreso every day. I'll go take some pictures now. Someone will likely tell me I'm a child molester or voyeur for that pleasure. Feh. G On Nov 17, 2007, at 7:46 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: It certainly prompts questions about what people can and can't do

Re: PESO: A Steaming Cup of Holiday Cheer

2007-11-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Bob. Yeah, we picked the colors to complement each other. And the format includes a blue border, so it should work. Although most of the ads will be BW, but the colors convert nicely as well. Paul On Nov 17, 2007, at 8:50 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Paul, Hands to big??! That's an

Re: One more question about condensations

2007-11-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: One more question about condensations Hi! Suppose I hadn't got lucky and condensation did occur. 1. What to do in case of just external condensation? Wipe it off and go on? 2. What is internal elements of the lens suffer from

Re: One more question about condensations

2007-11-17 Thread Boris Liberman
Bill, Bob, I have been given another suggestion. What if I simply keep the camera inside my jacket and take it out to the cold only to take a shot and then immediately shove it back in beneath my jacket... I will probably make a mix of all the suggestions and see how it goes on location.

Re: One more question about condensations

2007-11-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/11/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Don't bother with hair dryers, all they do is blow dust into your camera, have very little effect on drying the harmless exterior condensation, and absolutely no effect on anything that forms on the inside. I don't think modern electronic

Re: One more question about condensations

2007-11-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/11/07, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: What if I simply keep the camera inside my jacket and take it out to the cold only to take a shot and then immediately shove it back in beneath my jacket... Excellent idea. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People,

Re: FS Friday - M lenses

2007-11-17 Thread Scott Loveless
The M200/4 is spoken for. Thanks! Scott Loveless wrote: I've used KEH's online quote wizard to determine a grade for each lens. I've priced them accordingly - slightly more than the quote wizard, less than KEH's retail price. The glass is clear, no fungus or haze. There are a couple

Two new Tokina lenses

2007-11-17 Thread Adam Maas
A 35mm f2.8 macro, with focus clutch (Can we say 35 Limited?) and an 11-16 f2.8 DX. CaNikon only for now (Sucks for Sony users, who could really use the 11-16). I'm wondering if the latter will see a DA* version. It would make a lot of sense as the wide match to teh 16-50 and 50-135 (which is

Re: Two new Tokina lenses

2007-11-17 Thread Thibouille
Yes, a lot of sense, indeed. And yes, the 35 macro will be out as a Limited in Pentax brand but I expect the Pentax to be a lot more compact. On Nov 17, 2007 6:41 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A 35mm f2.8 macro, with focus clutch (Can we say 35 Limited?) and an 11-16 f2.8 DX. CaNikon

Re: Two new Tokina lenses

2007-11-17 Thread Joseph Tainter
Adam posted: A 35mm f2.8 macro, with focus clutch (Can we say 35 Limited?) and an 11-16 f2.8 DX. CaNikon only for now (Sucks for Sony users, who could really use the 11-16). I'm wondering if the latter will see a DA* version. It would make a lot of sense as the wide match to teh 16-50 and 50-135

Re: One more question about condensations

2007-11-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: One more question about condensations Bill, Bob, I have been given another suggestion. What if I simply keep the camera inside my jacket and take it out to the cold only to take a shot and then immediately shove it back in

Re: Two new Tokina lenses

2007-11-17 Thread Adam Maas
Joseph Tainter wrote: Adam posted: A 35mm f2.8 macro, with focus clutch (Can we say 35 Limited?) and an 11-16 f2.8 DX. CaNikon only for now (Sucks for Sony users, who could really use the 11-16). I'm wondering if the latter will see a DA* version. It would make a lot of sense as the wide

Re: OT - On yer bike

2007-11-17 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/17/2007 6:40:07 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7098116.stm -- Cheers, Cotty === Well, I am glad to hear it's been debated. Marnie -

Re: PESO: Something Different

2007-11-17 Thread Rick Womer
Better late than never, right...? I really like these, Jack. Using the long lens has enabled you to keep things square--or did you straighten them in PS? Rick --- Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Took a short drive this PM looking for something different (for me) to shoot. Looking

Re: OT - On yer bike

2007-11-17 Thread Evan Hanson
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PESO 2007 - 47g - GDG

2007-11-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Another Autumn photo ... http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47g.htm enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: FS Friday - M lenses

2007-11-17 Thread Beaker
Darn it Scott- you are trying to sell what I already have... Cheers Beaker On Nov 17, 2007, at 12:19 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: The M200/4 is spoken for. Thanks! Scott Loveless wrote: I've used KEH's online quote wizard to determine a grade for each lens. I've priced them accordingly -

PESO: Floats

2007-11-17 Thread Rick Womer
In Seattle harbor, next to a pier, was this...umm...thing. I think it is designed to contain an oil spill. The pattern and colors intrigued me. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6650354size=lg K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 1600, f/4 at 1/6, handheld, RAW via Lightroom. Some of the floats are a

Re: One more question about condensations

2007-11-17 Thread Bob Sullivan
Boris, What Bill said... Inside the coat works too. Regards, Bob S. On 11/17/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: One more question about condensations Bill, Bob, I have been given another suggestion. What if I

Re: PESO: Something Different

2007-11-17 Thread Jack Davis
I had to work with the sky border on the top and left side of #256. That was a matter of tilting and maneuvering to keep the border width fairly constant. I think the low shooting angle was the primary cause for a slightly skewed edge line.(?) Otherwise I don't think I cropped to just to

Everyone asleep here?

2007-11-17 Thread Charles Robinson
Testing... haven't seen anything from the PDML list all day and I just want to check that the list is working. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: is the list working

2007-11-17 Thread Adam Maas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the list working, test Everybody's out shooting -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

PESO: Lindsey Has Legs

2007-11-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Finishing up Linsey's portfolio. Just started sorting through today's shoot, but this one works for me. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6650402 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

is the list working

2007-11-17 Thread 272yb
Is the list working, test -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

OT: more Lightroom 1.3 and Mac OS X leopard notes...

2007-11-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I'm not ready to move to Leopard yet, but I'm tracking it. Here's the latest from Adobe regards Lightroom vs Leopard: http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2007/11/ lightroom_13_and_leopard.html Lightroom 1.3 and Leopard The Lightroom 1.3 release addresses many Leopard OS X 10.5 issues

Re: Bayonet question :D

2007-11-17 Thread Derby Chang
.timbercode wrote: Hi list! :D I've an adapter for Pentax K but I don't know the other. The adapter says PK-HB, but today we tried it on a Hasselblad lens and it won't fit. Here's a picture: http://timber.clancode.hu/misc/ize/bayonet.jpg Thanks in advance, Timber Could it be a

Re: Bayonet question :D

2007-11-17 Thread Derby Chang
Derby Chang wrote: .timbercode wrote: Hi list! :D I've an adapter for Pentax K but I don't know the other. The adapter says PK-HB, but today we tried it on a Hasselblad lens and it won't fit. Here's a picture: http://timber.clancode.hu/misc/ize/bayonet.jpg Thanks in advance, Timber

Slide copier on a DSLR?

2007-11-17 Thread Beaker
Hi- Has anyone used a bellows type slide copier on a digital SLR? Or am I just being silly again? I'm thinking about getting a roll of BW film and hunting up my old reels and tank, so I can do BW film on the cheap. I realize a film scanner is a better way to go about this, but an e- bay

PESO: Lindsey Has Legs!

2007-11-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Finishing up Linsey's portfolio. Just started sorting through today's shoot, but this one works for me. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6650402 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: Slide copier on a DSLR?

2007-11-17 Thread 272yb
I tried using my Pentax bellows/slide copier with the ist D, but it does not clear the front of the camera. I had to use a very small extension tube to be able to mount it on the body..The K10D might have more space to use the bellows.Joe -- Original message

Re: is the list working

2007-11-17 Thread 272yb
I guess that is where we should beJoe -- Original message -- From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the list working, test Everybody's out shooting -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PEOW:Grandson New Shiba Pup

2007-11-17 Thread Rick Womer
Jack: If you copy the URL and paste it into a new browser window, one is let in. Nice pic, Jay! You could try cropping out the bottom 1/4 and a smidge from the left, but it's a nice snap as it is. Rick --- Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting, FORBIDDEN, no permission to open (?)

Re: is the list working

2007-11-17 Thread Adam Maas
I wish, but I've spent the day working though my backlog of BW Processing Scanning. Boring but necessary. -Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess that is where we should beJoe -- Original message -- From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

Re: Slide copier on a DSLR?

2007-11-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
There are at least two ways to do this that are preferable to what you propose: One: Shoot BW film and scan it on a good film scanner. Two: Shoot digital and convert it to BW. Paul On Nov 17, 2007, at 10:06 PM, Beaker wrote: Hi- Has anyone used a bellows type slide copier on a digital SLR?

Re: Slide copier on a DSLR?

2007-11-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Beaker Subject: Slide copier on a DSLR? Hi- Has anyone used a bellows type slide copier on a digital SLR? Or am I just being silly again? I'm thinking about getting a roll of BW film and hunting up my old reels and tank, so I can do BW film on the

Re: PESO: Floats

2007-11-17 Thread Bob Sullivan
Rick, That is interesting. If you hadn't explained, I would never have guessed what it was. Still, the swirling pattern and repeated shapes made a picture that held my attention. And, I kept on seeing movement in the still photo. Regards, Bob S. On Nov 17, 2007 4:55 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL

Re: Slide copier on a DSLR?

2007-11-17 Thread Adam Maas
An Epson 4490 flatbed ($109 refurbished from epson.com) is also a better solution. With the addition of 1-2 35mm ANR inserts from betterscanning.com it makes a cheap but quite acceptable 35mm scanning solution (Without the inserts get ready for newton-rings or film curvature problems). As a

Re: PESO: Lindsey Has Legs

2007-11-17 Thread Jack Davis
Oh my..yes! Works for me too. Sassy and well caught. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finishing up Linsey's portfolio. Just started sorting through today's shoot, but this one works for me. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6650402 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: PESO: Floats

2007-11-17 Thread Jack Davis
Interesting, Rick. Kinda' like it. I believe the pattern is probably too repetitious to hold the interest of many, however. But then, what I believe is often 'unique'. =) Jack --- Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Seattle harbor, next to a pier, was this...umm...thing. I think it is

Re: One more question about condensations

2007-11-17 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! You're probably right, Bill. It is just that I don't want to miss shots, you know. I am not going to have all too much time there... But indeed, I may be over-reacting. Boris William Robb wrote: That works. Honestly though Boris, you are obsessing over very little. The climate I have

More computer problems

2007-11-17 Thread David Mann
Hi all, I'm unsubscribing again in the face of yet more computer problems. Unrelated from the previous lot but now the 10.5.1 update has caused me problems with unresponsive applications and difficulty shutting down. It seems that Mail is very good at triggering this whenever it tries to

Re: PESO: A Steaming Cup of Holiday Cheer

2007-11-17 Thread Boris Liberman
I must say I am disappointed, Paul. I expected to see some real liquid in the cap, you know... *Sipping my darjeeling oolong...* Boris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6646914 K10D, FA 50/1.4, 1/125th, two monolights firing into umbrellas -- PDML

Re: Slide copier on a DSLR?

2007-11-17 Thread Stan Halpin
Mike, as Bill said, the normal bellows don't have the extension to allow you to copy the full frame. A few months ago I did see listed somewhere (BH?) a redesigned bellows/slide copier intended to get around the problem with digital SLRs. Available for various mounts. Price was around $250

Re: More computer problems

2007-11-17 Thread Adam Maas
I'd revert to Tiger until Apple gets its shit together. Leopard is clearly the buggiest release Apple's done since 10.2 if not before. -Adam David Mann wrote: Hi all, I'm unsubscribing again in the face of yet more computer problems. Unrelated from the previous lot but now the 10.5.1

Re: PESO 2007 - 47g - GDG

2007-11-17 Thread John Celio
Another Autumn photo ... http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47g.htm Lovely. Reminds me of the neighborhood where I grew up. I can almost smell the smoke as my dad lights up some logs in the fireplace. Normally fall leaves don't do much for me, but combined with the grey street

Re: OT: more Lightroom 1.3 and Mac OS X leopard notes...

2007-11-17 Thread David Savage
Given this Dave Mann's latest news, I've got a new computer related theory: A computer systems (OS, Windows...) propensity for crashes, compatibility problems etc., is inversely proportional to said systems popularity amongst the computer using public. :-) Cheers, Dave On Nov 18, 2007 5:13

Re: More computer problems

2007-11-17 Thread Stan Halpin
No, he should stick with the Mac. But even with a Mac, don't upgrade to a new OS until the inevitable gremlins have been exorcised! The cost/benefit ratio is just weighted too heavily on the cost side. I didn't move from System 9 until they had gotten up to 10.3.x, didn't move to 10.4 until

Re: More computer problems

2007-11-17 Thread Scott Loveless
David Mann wrote: A bunch of stuff about a broken Macintosh operating system. You should get a PC. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Slide copier on a DSLR?

2007-11-17 Thread David S.
Beaker wrote: Hi- Has anyone used a bellows type slide copier on a digital SLR? Or am I just being silly again? I'm thinking about getting a roll of BW film and hunting up my old reels and tank, so I can do BW film on the cheap. I realize a film scanner is a better way to go about

Re: PESO: Lindsey Has Legs!

2007-11-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
Yes she does, indeed! Very nicely done, Paul. -- Bruce Saturday, November 17, 2007, 7:05:15 PM, you wrote: PS Finishing up Linsey's portfolio. Just started sorting through today's PS shoot, but this one works for me. PS http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6650402 -- PDML