PESO 2011 - self-portrait - GDG

2011-09-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
New A12 Camera Mount for the Ricoh GXR arrived and, of course, I'm busy as all heck right now. I had some time, just a little, to play with it this evening. I did a 40 second HD video with the Nokton 40 ... results are superb. And I made a self-portrait: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/11

Re: My backyard is humbling me

2011-09-20 Thread Larry Colen
On Sep 20, 2011, at 10:57 PM, steve harley wrote: > on 2011-09-20 23:21 Larry Colen wrote >> As you might guess, when I was taking a break this afternoon, I noticed how >> the angle of the light brought out the texture of the bark on one of the >> trees, inspiring me to grab the camera, and giv

Re: My backyard is humbling me

2011-09-20 Thread steve harley
on 2011-09-20 23:21 Larry Colen wrote As you might guess, when I was taking a break this afternoon, I noticed how the angle of the light brought out the texture of the bark on one of the trees, inspiring me to grab the camera, and give another try. I think that this shot does a fair job of sho

My backyard is humbling me

2011-09-20 Thread Larry Colen
A few of you have been to my house, and have seen my redwood grove. Even though they are young and small for redwoods, at about 100' tall and 4' in diameter, they're still pretty big by human standards. I recently picked up a work from home programming contract, and when I need to clear my min

Re: PESO: Indignity

2011-09-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Yes, indeed it is. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:36 PM, wendy beard wrote: > Indignity? > Nah - THIS is indignity! > http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/138022017 > > :-) > > Wendy > (poor Bandit :-) ) > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at

Re: PESO: Indignity

2011-09-20 Thread wendy beard
Indignity? Nah - THIS is indignity! http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/138022017 :-) Wendy (poor Bandit :-) ) On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=132 > > Comments are always appreciated. >

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Jack Davis
Apparently to some the butt is art. Jack - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:37 PM Subject: Re: OT But is it art? What a bum! On 11-09-20 8:35 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > Cheeky bastard. > > On Tue, Sep 20, 20

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:09:47PM +0100, Bob W wrote: > > while we're on the subject of critics and assholes, you might enjoy the > following from critic and art-lover Kenneth Tynan: "The buttocks are the > most aesthetically pleasing part of the body because they are > non-functional. Although t

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Bruce Walker
What a bum! On 11-09-20 8:35 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Cheeky bastard. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Sep 20, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Bob W wrote: while we're on the subject of critics and assholes, you might enjoy the following from critic and art-lover Kenneth Tyn

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
Cheeky bastard. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > On Sep 20, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Bob W wrote: > >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of >>> William Robb >>> Sent: 20 September 2011 22:58 >>> To: Pentax

Re: PDMLers... talk me in off the ledge, pls!

2011-09-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Sep 20, 2011, at 8:23 PM, William Robb wrote: > On 20/09/2011 3:06 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: >> > >> >> Thanks. A little girl talk always helps! >> >> > I feel dirty now. > With good reason. If the PDML engages in little girl talk, we could all end up in hot water. Paul > -- >

Re: PDMLers... talk me in off the ledge, pls!

2011-09-20 Thread William Robb
On 20/09/2011 3:06 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Thanks. A little girl talk always helps! I feel dirty now. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above a

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Sep 20, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Bob W wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of >> William Robb >> Sent: 20 September 2011 22:58 >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: OT But is it art? >> >> On 20/09/2011 1:25 PM,

RE: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Bob W
> -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > William Robb > Sent: 20 September 2011 22:58 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: OT But is it art? > > On 20/09/2011 1:25 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > > > > You're the list dickw

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread William Robb
On 20/09/2011 1:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I wonder how much of Adams' work is underappreciated by not seeing the original prints, I saw an original (signed by St. Ansel himself) print of Moonrise over Hernandez in a gallery in Santa Fe. I was struck by the depth and sheer richness of the ton

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread William Robb
On 20/09/2011 1:25 PM, Larry Colen wrote: You're the list dickweed? I thought I was the list dickweed and you were the list asshole. Now I'm confused. We don't actually have an official list asshole at the moment. I transferred to the Dickweed department a while back, and left the positi

Re: PDMLers... talk me in off the ledge, pls!

2011-09-20 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: > Girlfriend, get the K5!!!   I'm working towards getting a 2nd one for back-up. > > 1) The other day I was shooting long with the K-7 & wide with the K-5 for > action stuff, and I couldn't believe the difference.  Auto focus on the K-5 >

Scanning again!

2011-09-20 Thread Mark Roberts
I finally got my Minolta Scan Multi II operational again. What a slog, though... It's a SCSI scanner so I got a SCSI card with 64-bit driver support for my computer. But I couldn't get the card to recognize the scanner no matter what I did. Card problem? Scanner problem? Who knows... So I tried my

Re: GESO - Band on the Run

2011-09-20 Thread John Francis
The telling day for that thought was June 18th 2006 ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3chFhCP5mQ (Good photos, BTW, Tom!) On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 03:17:44PM -0500, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Paul, That's kinda what I was thinking... > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Paul Stenquist > wr

RE: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Bob W
> > I have an acquaintance who fancies himself a movie director though > he's never sold anything commercially. I've found I've stopped > discussing movies I like because I watch a movie to be entertained. He > watches a movie to critique it, and that takes all the fun out of it. > > Tom C. That

Re: GESO - Band on the Run

2011-09-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul, That's kinda what I was thinking... On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Well done. God, he's old! > > Paul > On Sep 20, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Tom C wrote: > >> http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=539118 >> >> By you know who. >> >> Tom C. >> >> -- >> PDML

Re: GESO - Band on the Run

2011-09-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Well done. God, he's old! Paul On Sep 20, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Tom C wrote: > http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=539118 > > By you know who. > > Tom C. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from

RE: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Bob W
> I wonder how much of Adams' work is underappreciated by not seeing the > original prints, but only seeing it on posters on office walls, or > perhaps on the web. Kind of like watching Star Wars via VHS on a 12" > CRT TV in 2000, versus watching it in the theater in July 1977. > > -- > Larry Col

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Tom C
Bob W wrote, in repsonse to Darren Addy: >> I am suggesting that I personally value Accomplishment, no matter how >> small, over Criticism (no matter how highly-regarded). >> >> The function of critics is to provide an opinion for those with an >> insufficient mental capacity to form one of their

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 20, 2011, at 13:56, Tom C wrote: > > Nice quote and I'll agree to that last statement. :-) Budweiser still > goes better with pizza than anything non-beer. > Cheap white wine from a box - with ice cubes - works for me! I have no class. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Larry Colen
On 9/20/2011 12:05 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Kenneth Brower does an admirable and thorough job of fending off all of Adam's critics, including an accidental critic: John Szarkowski ... http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/2002/07/brower.htm I wonder how much of Adams' work is underap

Re: PESO - Yellow Guy

2011-09-20 Thread Ken Waller
A female American Goldfinch. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: PESO - Yellow Guy Frank, He/she is a young goldfinch. It takes 'em a while for their colors to come in. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Sep 20

Re: On All Pentax Imaging Web Properties

2011-09-20 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Igor Roshchin" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:40 AM Subject: On All Pentax Imaging Web Properties Hi All: I received this message from the Pentax Gallery website people. I suspe

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Larry Colen
On 9/20/2011 11:52 AM, William Robb wrote: On 20/09/2011 12:35 PM, Bob W wrote: that's probably the most arrogant thing I've ever read on the PDML. Dammit Bob, does this mean I have to revert back to being the list dickweed? You're the list dickweed? I thought I was the list dickweed an

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Larry Colen
On 9/20/2011 11:56 AM, Tom C wrote: Nice quote and I'll agree to that last statement. :-) Budweiser still goes better with pizza than anything non-beer. I'll keep that in mind. I've never enjoyed it with anything else non-beer. Generally, when I've had it I've been sadder budweiser. -- La

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Larry Colen
On 9/20/2011 11:35 AM, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy I think you've misunderstood the function of critics. Are you suggesting that noone should criticise something unless they have personally done better? That would be absurd

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-09-20 2:11 PM, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist I find the essayist's snoopy metaphor silly and demeaning. And while he admits to an Adams renaissance, t's clear that he doesn't understand the artistry of Adams' work and ho

RE: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > William Robb > > > > that's probably the most arrogant thing I've ever read on the PDML. > > > Dammit Bob, does this mean I have to revert back to being the list > dickweed? > you're gonna need to pick up the pace a bit,

GESO - Band on the Run

2011-09-20 Thread Tom C
http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=539118 By you know who. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Tom C
Darren Addy wrote: > I'm sure I would enjoy seeing the photo galleries of any Ansel Adams critic. > > "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the > strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them > better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually

Re: A door to nowhere

2011-09-20 Thread William Robb
On 20/09/2011 9:43 AM, Tom C wrote: LOL. I like you, is that redeeming enough? :-) Fine. We can still be friends. Tom C. (ALL my work is derivative) What utter bullshit. Your work is some of the most original and non derivative work I've seen. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread William Robb
On 20/09/2011 12:35 PM, Bob W wrote: that's probably the most arrogant thing I've ever read on the PDML. Dammit Bob, does this mean I have to revert back to being the list dickweed? -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Darren Addy
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Bob W wrote: >> The function of critics is to provide an opinion for those with an >> insufficient mental capacity to form one of their own. > > that's probably the most arrogant thing I've ever read on the PDML. > Congratulations. But you can't be SURE until you

RE: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Darren Addy > > I think you've misunderstood the function of critics. Are you > suggesting > > that noone should criticise something unless they have personally > done > > better? That would be absurd. > > I am suggesting

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Darren Addy
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Bob W wrote: > I think you've misunderstood the function of critics. Are you suggesting > that noone should criticise something unless they have personally done > better? That would be absurd. I am suggesting that I personally value Accomplishment, no matter how s

RE: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Darren Addy > > I'm sure I would enjoy seeing the photo galleries of any Ansel Adams > critic. > I think you've misunderstood the function of critics. Are you suggesting that noone should criticise something unless they

RE: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Paul Stenquist > > I find the essayist's snoopy metaphor silly and demeaning. And while he > admits to an Adams renaissance, t's clear that he doesn't understand > the artistry of Adams' work and how he was able to bend li

Re: A door to nowhere

2011-09-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
I Coulda, woulda, shoulda is always trumped by I DID. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > The distance between "I could have done" something and "I have done" > something (particularly done it First) is vast indeed. > > Darren Addy > Kearney, Nebraska > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discu

Re: A door to nowhere

2011-09-20 Thread Darren Addy
The distance between "I could have done" something and "I have done" something (particularly done it First) is vast indeed. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the l

Re: A door to nowhere

2011-09-20 Thread John Sessoms
From: Tom C William Robb wrote: Not liking Ansel Adams certainly strains a friendship, but I'll grant you are still a more or less worthwhile human being until you say something to redeem yourself. The monochrome needs to be cropped to more or less square, and then it works. ,mark. One cannot t

Re: PESO - Yellow Guy

2011-09-20 Thread John Sessoms
From: frank theriault Not a great photo, I just wanted an ID on this guy. He was hanging around with the goldfinches several weeks ago (before they left) but he doesn't look like a goldfinch, just a wannabe. http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/yellow-guy.html Any ideas? A yellow bird

Re: On All Pentax Imaging Web Properties

2011-09-20 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Brian Walters" On Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:40 AM, "Igor Roshchin" wrote: Hi All: I received this message from the Pentax Gallery website people. I suspect that many of you received a similar message. I noticed the sentence: "However, if you prefer not to display your images on al

Re: Did It! K-5 On The Way

2011-09-20 Thread John Sessoms
Right. Your new camera is weather sealed, so it doesn't matter if *YOU* get soaked and catch your death from cold. I hope it doesn't rain either Mark. From: Jack Davis Just read this and am likely not the first one to comment about this, but them K5 is grommeted and sealed against moisture an

Re: PESO - Swirl

2011-09-20 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 10, 2011, at 8:48, Rick Womer wrote: > Leaping effortlessly through time and space, this is from our trip to Toronto > in May: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14149418&size=lg > I like this quite a bit. I can't really tell where the light's coming from so it's very interes

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Darren Addy
I'm sure I would enjoy seeing the photo galleries of any Ansel Adams critic. "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is m

Re: PESO - The End

2011-09-20 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 20, 2011, at 10:50, Tom C wrote: >> That's a nice shot, Tom. >> >> Judging by the angles, it doesn't even appear to be that extreme of a >> telephoto shot, either. >> >> One shudders to consider the cost of those tickets. Somewhat stratospheric, >> wasn't it? >> >> -Charles >> > >

RE: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bruce Walker Talk about Ansel Adams (see "A door to nowhere" thread) had me searching for something about a repeated criticism of Ansel Adams that I've run across: that he's the Normal Rockwell of photogs; that his output is kitsch rather than art; that his belief in beauty above all rather

Re: PESO - Yellow Guy

2011-09-20 Thread Ann Sanfedele
OK 3 votes for Goldy... there ya go Frank! I thought youngster first, then molting male and settled on the latter ann On 9/20/2011 10:17, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Bob's right. Either it is a young goldfinch, or it is a male that is molting to change into his drab winter outfit. Dan Dan Matyo

Re: PESO - Yellow Guy

2011-09-20 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Looks like a goldfinch preparing for winter ann On 9/20/2011 08:13, frank theriault wrote: Not a great photo, I just wanted an ID on this guy. He was hanging around with the goldfinches several weeks ago (before they left) but he doesn't look like a goldfinch, just a wannabe. http://knarfdumm

Re: A door to nowhere

2011-09-20 Thread Tom C
> On 11-09-19 4:24 PM, Don Guthrie wrote: >> The 1st set in a series. Of these 3 pix of the same thing I can't pick >> my favorite treatment. Your opinion would be valued. >> >> http://donspix.posterous.com/doors-to-nowhere-3-pix-for-the-indecisive-pho >> >> > #3, the bright yellow posts jump out

Re: PESO - The End

2011-09-20 Thread Tom C
> That's a nice shot, Tom. > > Judging by the angles, it doesn't even appear to be that extreme of a > telephoto shot, either. > > One shudders to consider the cost of those tickets.  Somewhat stratospheric, > wasn't it? > >  -Charles > Thanks. You're correct, third row center. Almost exactly th

Re: A door to nowhere

2011-09-20 Thread Tom C
William Robb wrote: > Not liking Ansel Adams certainly strains a friendship, but I'll grant > you are still a more or less worthwhile human being until you say > something to redeem yourself. > The monochrome needs to be cropped to more or less square, and then it > works. > > ,mark. > One cannot

Re: A door to nowhere

2011-09-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > #3 is my favorite.  The stairs need to touch the ground, > and the 6 yellow posts are a plus in the color photo. > B&W is boring... > Regards,  Bob S. Agreed Dave > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Don Guthrie wrote: >> The 1st set in a s

Re: PESO - Yellow Guy

2011-09-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Bob's right. Either it is a young goldfinch, or it is a male that is molting to change into his drab winter outfit. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Frank, > He/she is a young goldfinch. > It takes 'em a wh

Re: PESO - Yellow Guy

2011-09-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
Frank, He/she is a young goldfinch. It takes 'em a while for their colors to come in. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:13 AM, frank theriault wrote: > Not a great photo, I just wanted an ID on this guy.  He was hanging > around with the goldfinches several weeks ago (before they left) b

PESO - Yellow Guy

2011-09-20 Thread frank theriault
Not a great photo, I just wanted an ID on this guy. He was hanging around with the goldfinches several weeks ago (before they left) but he doesn't look like a goldfinch, just a wannabe. http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/yellow-guy.html Any ideas? Thanks! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness

Re: A door to nowhere

2011-09-20 Thread Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
Don Guthrie writes: > http://donspix.posterous.com/doors-to-nowhere-3-pix-for-the-indecisive-pho I like the b/w one best. The yellow posts unbalance #3 by grabbing attention, and cropping them out weakens the composition in #1. -tih -- "The market" is a bunch of 28-year-olds who don't know any

Re: On All Pentax Imaging Web Properties

2011-09-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
I suppose they will use some images to promote the gallery as they've done in the past. It's a typical disclaimer and not worth losing sleep over, IMO. Paul On Sep 20, 2011, at 12:40 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > Hi All: > > I received this message from the Pentax Gallery website people. > I s

Re: On All Pentax Imaging Web Properties

2011-09-20 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-09-20 1:23 AM, Brian Walters wrote: I assumed that if you don't want to participate in the Pentax Gallery any more or if you don't want to have your photos on "our mobile site", they won't transfer your photos and data to the new site(s) if you notify them by Oct 3. I'm not sure what "our

RE: Clever ways of storing and carrying light stands, tripods etc?

2011-09-20 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > steve harley > on 2011-09-19 16:26 Stan Halpin wrote > > You can probably buy crutches in all sizes in those same stores . . . > > not sure what your point is — perhaps to disparage thrift stores? — but > indeed, > that wa